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20110214 05:18:07< ancestral> Is reloading cache supposed to be F5 or ctrl+F5?
20110214 05:18:20< shadowmaster> F5
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20110214 05:19:11< ancestral> Apparently that was changed
20110214 05:19:17< ancestral> (for Mac users)
20110214 05:19:19< shadowmaster> titlescreen
20110214 05:19:27< ancestral> https://gna.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=16744
20110214 05:20:11< shadowmaster> that's awful.
20110214 05:20:27< ancestral> I have a solution, actually
20110214 05:20:52< shadowmaster> good that no-one on Windows  or the widely used Unix DEs assigns shell hotkeys to F* keys
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20110214 05:20:56< shadowmaster> and reserve those for application usage instead
20110214 05:21:17< ancestral> When any Mac application is in fullscreen, it doesn't allow for the system to "hijack" the key
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20110214 05:22:09< ancestral> So all those WoW players can hit those Fkeys and not worry about whether or not they're going to drink their potion and avoid death…
20110214 05:22:50< ancestral> However, when the window is minimized, applications cede control of the Fkeys to the system
20110214 05:23:11< ancestral> However, to use F5 in the application in windowed mode, you can press ctrl+F5
20110214 05:23:43< ancestral> Let me see if I can test this with a previous build that has it mapped with F5, because if so, this really wasn't a bug in the first place
20110214 05:24:01< ancestral> (And consequently, hitting ctrl+F5 would still work)
20110214 05:25:22< ancestral> Tried 1.6, and I was right
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20110214 06:21:20< ancestral> When submitting a patch, should I explain the reason for it, or just simply describe what it does?
20110214 06:21:44< Espreon> Why not both?
20110214 06:21:57< ancestral> Because maybe being too wordy is too much?
20110214 06:22:19< ancestral> I'll take that as a "yes" and I'll be wordy :)
20110214 06:22:47< Espreon> Be wordy.
20110214 06:25:47< ancestral> k thanks, uploaded
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20110214 10:54:39< Ivanovic> moin
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20110214 12:28:09< CIA-63> ivanovic * r48526 /trunk/src/preferences_display.cpp: smallgui should now work for everyone, so list it in the selection
20110214 12:33:02< CIA-63> ivanovic * r48527 /trunk/src/dialogs.cpp: 
20110214 12:33:02< CIA-63> use the smallgui load dialog as default, otherwise with <600px vertically there will be glitches
20110214 12:33:02< CIA-63> the load dialog is a mess anyway and waiting for a rework done in GUI2 once stuff like treeview and such is available
20110214 12:34:30< Ivanovic> mordante: now the only places where the small_gui setting is still used is in the src/test/ files and personally i don't want to touch those
20110214 12:35:45< Ivanovic> once it is removed there, the startup flag can be removed (this means changing the files src/game_config.cpp, src/config_cache.cpp and src/game.cpp) as well as the documentation (manpages) be updated
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20110214 12:39:20< mordante> Ivanovic, I'm aware of those, but at the moment the unit tests are broken
20110214 12:39:27< Ivanovic> :)
20110214 12:39:37< mordante> not really happy about it
20110214 12:39:55< Ivanovic> i think they are already broken for ages and could probably use some real cleanup
20110214 12:40:15< Ivanovic> hmm, possible gsoc project? "create good and working unit tests"?
20110214 12:40:17< mordante> no they're not, fendrin broke them with his changes to the recruit dialog
20110214 12:40:23< Ivanovic> ahhh, i see
20110214 12:40:43< mordante> I happen to run them on a regular base to test some of my gui code for regressions
20110214 12:41:35< mordante> might be a nice GSoC project we have enough library code to throw at it
20110214 12:41:49< loonycyborg> Creating unit tests isn't a good gsoc project since you already need to know what to test before creating them..
20110214 12:42:05< mordante> (in fact I have some things I wanted to add myself, but not yet found the time to do so)
20110214 12:42:45< mordante> loonycyborg, depends, adding unit tests for the functional language seems very doable to me
20110214 12:44:00< loonycyborg> You mean formula ai? :P
20110214 12:44:22< loonycyborg> Or you're referring to some other project?
20110214 12:44:39< mordante> the language beneath the formula ai
20110214 12:44:47< mordante> don't think we ever gave a real name to it
20110214 12:46:39< loonycyborg> In any case, unit tests are long term commitment. The prospective gscoc student will have to convince whatever developer for the code that is tested to maintain them.
20110214 12:47:58< mordante> true but then again you don't know whether the student stays or whether the developer stays
20110214 12:49:48< mordante> anyway off to lunch, bye
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20110214 15:04:50< timotei> yupii
20110214 15:05:13< timotei> so Ubuntu 10.04 works fine in VMWare(tested wesnoth xD  - sound is ok)
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20110214 15:09:47< Rhonda> good test :)
20110214 15:10:02< Rhonda> oh, we are in #wesnoth-dev, not in a ubuntu channel. :)
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20110214 15:48:28< timotei> Rhonda: :P
20110214 15:48:42< timotei> Rhonda: well, I tested it using wesnoth.
20110214 15:48:55< timotei> Rhonda: you could say that I tested wesnoth, and it works in Ubuntu 10.04 xD
20110214 15:49:42< Rhonda> I wouldn't have expected anything else, I did test it myself there.
20110214 15:49:50< timotei> oh :D
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20110214 17:54:47< Espreon> zookeeper: Well, if you want to commit the ruined desert keep, now's the chance.
20110214 18:01:01< zookeeper> Espreon, uh, wait, i thought you did already? or were going to.
20110214 18:02:04< Espreon> Well, I just moved the ruined desert castle to core.
20110214 18:02:29< Espreon> I was going to commit the keep, but there were some things about which I wasn't so sure.
20110214 18:02:36< Espreon> Yeah...
20110214 18:02:59< Espreon> zookeeper: ... and I cannot commit from here, so... it's all yours.
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20110214 18:15:32< zookeeper> Espreon, oh, right.
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20110214 19:06:02< fendrin> Ivanovic: hi, do you know who could be the best person to talk about the report system?
20110214 19:06:11< Ivanovic> report system?
20110214 19:06:46< fendrin> There is a report class that feeds the gui with informations about units, turns, gold ...
20110214 19:07:10< Ivanovic> no idea
20110214 19:07:35< fendrin> The class is called reports.
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20110214 19:08:19< boucman> hey all
20110214 19:08:26< fendrin> hi boucman
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20110214 19:18:46< mordante> servus
20110214 19:20:57< fendrin> hi mordante
20110214 19:21:30< mordante> hi fendrin 
20110214 19:22:01< mordante> fendrin, left some messages in the German chan for you ;-)
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20110214 20:24:56< CIA-63> fendrin * r48528 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/wml_message.cfg: Tried another grouping of the buttons to allow lower resolutions
20110214 20:25:16< fendrin> Ivanovic: ^
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20110214 21:19:35< timotei> hmm
20110214 21:19:50< timotei> something is wrong
20110214 21:20:06< mordante> ?
20110214 21:20:26< timotei> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/AZdvHQJ5
20110214 21:21:08< mordante> timotei, recompile Wesnoth
20110214 21:21:15< timotei> mordante: that's what I just did 
20110214 21:21:38< mordante> are you sure your data and src directory are in sync?
20110214 21:22:05< timotei> rebase is giving me I'm up to date
20110214 21:22:34< timotei> today it worked
20110214 21:23:01< mordante> are there files named tooltip.cpp in your checkout?
20110214 21:23:50< timotei> tooltips.cpp
20110214 21:23:52< timotei> yes
20110214 21:24:53< mordante> tooltip.cpp without the s
20110214 21:24:56< mordante> ;-)
20110214 21:25:22< timotei> nope
20110214 21:25:47< timotei> $ git svn rebase
20110214 21:25:47< timotei> Current branch master is up to date.
20110214 21:27:17< mordante> very odd, I think you use an old binary which has the tooltip.cpp code still compiled in
20110214 21:27:40< mordante> especially since it worked earlier today and the code has been removed over the weekend
20110214 21:27:47< timotei> oh. binary
20110214 21:27:52< timotei> you are right indeed.
20110214 21:28:00< timotei> forgot to copy the built binary xD
20110214 21:28:01< timotei> sorry
20110214 21:30:07< mordante> no problem
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20110214 21:56:20< CIA-63> fendrin * r48529 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/wml_message.cfg: Fix the unit tests for gui2.
20110214 21:56:21< fendrin> mordante: ^
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20110214 22:00:29< fendrin> zookeeper: You did commit the desert ruined castle, didn't you?
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20110214 22:09:18< mordante> fendrin, fixes the issue for me as well, did you use gdb to find the problem?
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20110214 22:20:14< fendrin> mordante: No, I just guessed what was missing and did some try and error runs.
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20110214 22:30:09< zookeeper> fendrin, no, i haven't
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20110214 22:46:17< mordante> crimson_penguin, you saw I assigned a patch to you?
20110214 22:46:31< crimson_penguin> oh yes, but I forgot to look at it
20110214 22:49:26< crimson_penguin> mordante: hmm, I'm gonna have to try this myself, I'm a bit confused
20110214 22:50:13< mordante> crimson_penguin, me to, but the hotkey has changed so often, that I like to have input of a Mac expert
20110214 22:50:17< mordante> too*
20110214 22:50:32< crimson_penguin> on laptop Macs, fn+F5 gets you a normal F5 keypress, and I THINK it's the same on desktop Macs as well
20110214 22:51:31< mordante> fn is the special laptop key isn't it?
20110214 22:52:33< timotei> mordante: yes
20110214 22:52:48< crimson_penguin> it is, but I think Macs have the special functions for the F# keys on desktops too
20110214 22:52:58< timotei> mordante: usually it toggles the extra F row keys (like multimedia keys/luminosity/wifi)
20110214 22:54:14< mordante> timotei, exactly, that what confuses me, but guess Macs are different
20110214 22:54:41< timotei> well... the FN thingy it's a hardware-ish thing iirc
20110214 22:54:53< timotei> I mean, it won't send the FN key to the OS will it?
20110214 22:55:06< timotei> I should try some assembly code for that
20110214 22:55:10< timotei> but I'm too lazy atm
20110214 22:55:53< crimson_penguin> it's definitely low level
20110214 22:58:47< crimson_penguin> mordante: ok, I think I would just trust ancestral on this one - I now understand what he's saying, and he says he's tested it, and it all makes sense
20110214 23:01:21< timotei> good night guys :D
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20110214 23:01:32< crimson_penguin> goodnight
20110214 23:03:37< mordante> crimson_penguin, ok, shall I apply the patch or do you want to?
20110214 23:06:27< crimson_penguin> You'd probably be more efficient :P
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20110214 23:08:01< timotei> shadowmaster:"As you are not a principal or employee of a developer and are playing for fun, YES you can play the open Beta of Rift."
20110214 23:08:01< timotei> Yey!
20110214 23:08:49< timotei> Gambit: ^ Not breaking any TOS now :D
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20110214 23:09:46< mordante> crimson_penguin, ok, I will commit it, but not today about to leave
20110214 23:10:29< crimson_penguin> mordante: ok, I'll just reply and say basically what I just said then
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20110214 23:11:20< mordante> ok
20110214 23:30:00< mordante> I'm off night
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