--- Log opened Tue Feb 22 00:00:20 2011
20110222 00:00:21< Crab_> TronPaul: it was not inside 'if (recall_list_element==team_.recall_list().end()) {'
20110222 00:00:23< TronPaul> ok yea I see it now
20110222 00:00:29< Crab_> TronPaul: it was inside 'if(add_to_recall_) {'
20110222 00:00:37< Crab_> TronPaul: I suggest making a table
20110222 00:00:46< Crab_> TronPaul: with old behavior, and then compare it to new
20110222 00:00:54< TronPaul> boolean logic tables
20110222 00:01:03< TronPaul> who knew they could be useful outside of discrete class
20110222 00:02:13< Crab_> TronPaul: basically, there are 4 possible actions
20110222 00:02:21< Crab_> TronPaul: each of them is marked by LOG message
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20110222 00:05:29< Crab_> TronPaul: also note that you should do ' team_.recall_list().erase(recall_list_element);' only when you are sure that you will place the unit on map
20110222 00:05:44< TronPaul> right
20110222 00:05:59< Crab_> TronPaul: note how your current code (in the patch) loses the unit in case unit was in recall list and loc is empty
20110222 00:06:48< Crab_> TronPaul: you get a unit from recall list, then you erase it from recall list. but instead you should get a unit, find a location for it, then only erase it if needed.
20110222 00:08:06< Crab_> but, more or less, patch is 'in the right direction' :) 
20110222 00:08:09< boucman> Crab_: the MP aware is now neglectable on my computer
20110222 00:08:30< boucman> from 16.6% down to 1.9%
20110222 00:08:34< boucman> so rather good :)
20110222 00:09:01< Crab_> sorry, what's a 'MP aware' ?
20110222 00:09:37< boucman> omp enabled, 
20110222 00:10:02< boucman> but when looking at it, it's a bit "too good", I'll loook a bit more at my results
20110222 00:10:52< TronPaul> Crab_: read it over and I still think the old Log message is wrong for this situation
20110222 00:11:17< TronPaul> since we know that the unit is in the recall list
20110222 00:11:36< boucman> no, the google perf is not a good measure of the improvement
20110222 00:11:43< boucman> not sure how to measure it, then
20110222 00:11:54< TronPaul> from the opening if 'recall_list_element==team_.recall_list().end()'
20110222 00:11:56< Crab_> boucman: 'AI turn time'
20110222 00:12:12< Crab_> boucman: it has quite a large portion dedicated to redraws
20110222 00:12:21< Crab_> boucman: especially if the ai attacks and screen scrolls
20110222 00:12:23< boucman> how can I find that ? the log-debug you mentionned erlier ?
20110222 00:12:26< Crab_> yes
20110222 00:12:42< boucman> ok
20110222 00:13:00< Crab_> but attacks are random.. so , at first, try NR: Showdown with many units and moves but without attacks
20110222 00:13:46< boucman> Crab_: i'll ask you taht again tomorow, bed time now :)
20110222 00:13:55< Crab_> boucman: ok :)
20110222 00:14:15< Crab_> TronPaul: old message was 'LOG_NG << "wanted to insert unit on recall list, but recall list for side " << (cfg)["side"] << "already contains id="<<id<<"\n";' - what's wrong with it ?
20110222 00:14:22< TronPaul> where it is
20110222 00:14:32< TronPaul> currently we know that the unit is in the recall list
20110222 00:15:01< TronPaul> since 'recall_list_element!=team_.recall_list().end()'
20110222 00:15:09< TronPaul> its just that the location is not valid
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20110222 00:15:23< TronPaul> in that branch we're trying to add a unit from the recall list to the map
20110222 00:15:27< TronPaul> without a valid location
20110222 00:15:28< Crab_> TronPaul: what is the meaning of 'locaiton not valid' ?
20110222 00:15:50< Crab_> TronPaul: check it out. 'location not valid' means 'add to recall list because we haven't found a place on map for this unit'
20110222 00:16:13< Crab_> TronPaul:  for example, in unit_creator::find_location,         if (place == "recall" ) {  return map_location::null_location; }
20110222 00:16:16< TronPaul> ahhh ok
20110222 00:16:17< TronPaul> I see now
20110222 00:16:39< Crab_> TronPaul: the problem is, we must not allow 2+ units with same id.
20110222 00:16:44< TronPaul> right
20110222 00:17:06< Crab_> TronPaul: so, if we have a unit with ID=foo. and we have a unit in recall list with id=foo, we must make sure that we don't add our unit to recall list.
20110222 00:17:29< Crab_> TronPaul: we can either forget & complain (as we do now), or we can replace unit currently on recall list with the one we have now.
20110222 00:18:06< Crab_> but, 'replace unit currently on recall list with the one we have now.' is not a good thing, since if we are in campaign in scenario 2, we might have units from scenario 1 on recall list with XP/levels
20110222 00:18:25< TronPaul> got it
20110222 00:18:32< Crab_> and, if their IDs are duplicated in scenario 2, we shouldn't replace old experienced units with new 0-xp units, since it's not what the player expects.
20110222 00:18:45< Crab_> so, that's why the 'drop&complain' behavior
20110222 00:19:32< TronPaul> and then for erase
20110222 00:19:42< TronPaul> I think I moved the return statements around properly
20110222 00:20:00< TronPaul> because in the old code
20110222 00:20:05< TronPaul> even if we're making a new unit
20110222 00:20:11< TronPaul> it tries to delete it from the recall list
20110222 00:20:59< Crab_> again, check '  LOG_NG << "wanted to insert unit on recall list, but recall list for side " << (cfg)["side"] << "already contains id="<<id<<"\n";' branch
20110222 00:21:06< Crab_> it happens if we have unit in recall list. 
20110222 00:21:13< Crab_> but in that case we shouldn't erase it
20110222 00:21:34< Crab_> but, for map_passable and leader_passable, we should actually get a unit* before we find a location
20110222 00:22:02< Crab_> so,   team_.recall_list().erase(recall_list_element); must happen later, not immediately after you get the unit* from recall list.
20110222 00:22:25< TronPaul> so it needs to be put in the branches
20110222 00:22:32< TronPaul> instead of returning early as before
20110222 00:22:46< Crab_> yes, in 'LOG_NG << "inserting unit from recall list for side " << recalled_unit.side()<< " with id="<< id << "\n";' branch
20110222 00:24:02< Crab_> note that currently return is a bit buggy
20110222 00:24:45< TronPaul> alright
20110222 00:24:47< TronPaul> changed that
20110222 00:24:52< TronPaul> i'll run a svn diff
20110222 00:25:01< TronPaul> and upload the new patch
20110222 00:25:26< TronPaul> compile first tho
20110222 00:26:05< Crab_> 'return' should happen if loc was not valid, after the action.
20110222 00:26:15< Crab_> (even if no action was taken)
20110222 00:26:52< TronPaul> so should I move that if statement at the bottom into the branches? or use the return statements?
20110222 00:27:03< TronPaul> well into the 2 branches that need it
20110222 00:28:10< Crab_> either 'return' or extract that 'if statement at the bottom' into a function and call it when needed
20110222 00:28:23< TronPaul> ok
20110222 00:28:24< Crab_> we need to call it to ensure we have no units with id=FOO in recall list
20110222 00:28:29< TronPaul> did the latter
20110222 00:29:27< Crab_> but, as it looks like that it needs to be called only in a 'LOG_NG << "inserting unit from recall list for side " << recalled_unit.side()<< " with id="<< id << "\n";' case, you can just move it after there...
20110222 00:30:43< Crab_> (it's the only case which doesn't ensure 'here&now' that recall list doesn't contain duplicates for that id)
20110222 00:31:09< TronPaul> alright
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20110222 00:38:14< Crab_> (I'll check out the patch page tomorrow)
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20110222 10:13:17< Ivanovic> moin
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20110222 13:55:20< Crab_> Ivanovic, boucman: if any of you have the receipt from 2go4, then send a scan to me via mail, please.
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20110222 14:01:54< Ivanovic> Crab_: i have thrown it away some 3 days ago thinking that you already had yours...
20110222 14:02:47< Ivanovic> wait, was right at the top of the paper bin, though it is *very* crumbled
20110222 14:02:59 * Crab_ is lucky
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20110222 15:06:26< TronPaul> mornin all
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20110222 15:33:11< Ivanovic> deekay: so what was the result of the weekends tournament match?
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20110222 15:37:42< deekay> Ivanovic:  Well, we still have to finish it, but it's now unlikely that we will win
20110222 15:39:38< Ivanovic> okay
20110222 15:39:59< Ivanovic> different topic:
20110222 15:40:05< Ivanovic> how are the kalifate coming along?
20110222 15:40:15< deekay> we had test game few days ago
20110222 15:40:19< deekay> got to some conclusions
20110222 15:40:23< deekay> it is progresing slowly
20110222 15:40:34< deekay> s/got/came/
20110222 15:41:55< Ivanovic> do you think having them in mainline by the weekend is possible?
20110222 15:42:06< Ivanovic> so that i can get 1.9.5 out (with the kalifate!)
20110222 15:42:13< deekay> I doubt
20110222 15:42:58< deekay> It would be nice if we could have 1.9.5 with kalifa, but it would require waiting a bit before releasing
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20110222 15:46:59< deekay> Alo I would like to make some fixed to the replay player (some more are needed) but I won't have time this week for sure
20110222 15:47:35< deekay> fixes'
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20110222 17:37:34< iwontbecreative> Someone knows if boost_asio is packaged for debian? 
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20110222 17:43:28< Soliton> yes, libasio-dev.
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20110222 17:50:11< iwontbecreative> Hmm, I have that package installed
20110222 17:50:29< norbert_> hi all, just a short message to let you know I've created a diagram that shows statistics about 400,000 matches that were played on the 1.8 MP server from 11 May 2010 - 20 February 2011
20110222 17:50:42< norbert_> the URL is of the diagram is: http://www.wsrsw.org/2010-05-11_2011-02-20.png
20110222 17:51:15< norbert_> maybe it's nice enough to link to from some Wiki page, or something
20110222 17:51:49< norbert_> it's based on two data sets, these are located here: http://www.wsrsw.org/2010-05-11_2010-09-27/ and here http://www.wsrsw.org/2010-09-28_2011-02-20/
20110222 17:52:01< iwontbecreative> Caves of the basilik before The Freelands? 
20110222 17:52:30< norbert_> yes, in both periods
20110222 17:53:04< norbert_> anyways, hope my work on this will be useful/interesting in some way; if anyone has questions: info@wsrsw.org
20110222 17:53:05< norbert_> bye
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20110222 17:53:19< TronPaul> hmm interesting graph
20110222 18:04:29< loonycyborg> iwontbecreative: boost.asio is part of libboost-dev or whatever
20110222 18:06:39< loonycyborg> libasio-dev is version before it was merged with boost.
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20110222 18:22:52< iwontbecreative> Yes, but I've got all libboost installed aswell :P
20110222 18:22:54< iwontbecreative> Might be a scons issue
20110222 18:23:39< iwontbecreative> But --config=force doesn't help
20110222 18:25:38< loonycyborg> What's in build/config.log?
20110222 18:32:37< iwontbecreative> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/dfduyzzH
20110222 18:33:13< iwontbecreative> Guess it's something about libpthread
20110222 18:36:06< loonycyborg> Try passing extra_flags_config=-lpthread
20110222 18:37:54< iwontbecreative> Looks like it worked, thanks :)
20110222 18:38:10< loonycyborg> np
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20110222 20:29:46< YogiHH> hello
20110222 20:30:19< YogiHH> hi fendrin, were you able to fix the recruit dialog for multiplayer?
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20110222 20:34:54< Ivanovic> YogiHH: i *think* this one was fixed by shadowmaster some days ago, not 100% sure though
20110222 20:35:17< YogiHH> ok
20110222 20:36:28< shadowmaster> yes
20110222 20:36:40< YogiHH> Ivanovic: I stumbled upon another segfault, that seems to be related to the cuttlefish in scenario 1 of UtBS. It happens when its hitpoints are reduced from 67 to 40. Is that a known problem?
20110222 20:40:16< Ivanovic> no idea
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20110222 20:48:37< mordante> servus
20110222 20:52:25< mordante> YogiHH, doesn't sound familiar to me also don't see something in the tracker
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20110222 21:18:00< Ivanovic> hmm, where is crab, when you need him?
20110222 21:18:15 * Ivanovic goes to fetch a goat to assist the summons
20110222 21:18:43< shadowmaster> mordante: you know, in general, when someone says "<Name> likes to work on fixing that bug", they are saying that such person likes to work on fixing that bug as a form of habit, and not as a one-time thing
20110222 21:19:24< shadowmaster> "<Name> would like to work on fixing that bug" would be valid for a one-time activity.
20110222 21:19:28-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.9.5 planned once the Kalifathe are in | 180 bugs, 304 feature requests, 24 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20110222 21:20:07< shadowmaster> I can't imagine any persistent bug where the first form would be semantically correct ;)
20110222 21:20:23-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.9.5 planned once the Khalifate are in | 180 bugs, 304 feature requests, 24 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20110222 21:23:22< mordante> shadowmaster, ?
20110222 21:23:49< shadowmaster> from your last email to the Lua stuff thread in the ML
20110222 21:24:24< shadowmaster> but you make the same mistake quite often
20110222 21:24:43< mordante> hmm yeah grammar could be be improved every now and then
20110222 21:25:03< mordante> then again, who says fixing it is a one time issue?
20110222 21:25:06 * mordante hides
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20110222 21:29:41< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: so, does that mean the Khalifate are nearly ready?
20110222 21:29:56< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: i hope so
20110222 21:30:15< Ivanovic> [15:40:05] <Ivanovic> how are the kalifate coming along?
20110222 21:30:17< Ivanovic> [15:40:15] <deekay> we had test game few days ago
20110222 21:30:21< Ivanovic> [15:41:55] <Ivanovic> do you think having them in mainline by the weekend is possible?
20110222 21:30:25< Ivanovic> [15:42:58] <deekay> It would be nice if we could have 1.9.5 with kalifa, but it would require waiting a bit before releasing
20110222 21:31:03< deekay> No, I did not say they are "nearly ready", I just said that we had some playtesting done :)
20110222 21:31:18< deekay> It is not yet in really usable state.
20110222 21:31:55< shadowmaster> deekay: what's still missing?
20110222 21:32:57< deekay> mostly config files and some balancing/design decisions
20110222 21:32:57< iwontbecreative> deekay: I'm up for some testing games if you want
20110222 21:35:00< Ivanovic> deekay, shadowmaster: it just depends on each ones definition of "nearly"
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20110222 21:37:55< iwontbecreative> Btw: Are the Khalifa ready for testing somewhere?
20110222 21:39:29< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: from what i know: no, they are not
20110222 21:39:57< Ivanovic> work in progress in an "elite group" that wants to have a sane initial idea and balancing of the faction before getting it out into the open for public testing
20110222 21:40:28< iwontbecreative> Would be quite usefull, some good players asked me about it
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20110222 21:45:23< Ivanovic> mordante: so at the moment the lua part would be no blocker for 1.9.5?
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20110222 21:46:25< mordante> Ivanovic, no, the VALIDATE is fixed, there is still the part where Lua is too greedy regarding exceptions
20110222 21:46:46< mordante> but I'm not aware of bugs caused by this issue
20110222 21:47:07< mordante> it is just that it will bite us in the back some point in the future
20110222 21:47:26< mordante> but no 1.9.x blocker, just a 1.10.0 blocker
20110222 21:48:12< Ivanovic> oaky
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20110222 21:56:06< YogiHH> mordante: i am getting occasional debug messages "warning gui/event: Unhandled event 17.". Is that something to worry about?
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20110222 21:59:02< mordante> YogiHH, you shouldn't, but I should
20110222 22:00:02< YogiHH> mordante: ok :)
20110222 22:00:02< mordante> never seen the event on my system, but will let it do the right things
20110222 22:00:03< YogiHH> mordante: Any more infos you need?
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20110222 22:00:13< timotei> mordante: I get those too
20110222 22:00:15< mordante> no I've seen which event it is
20110222 22:00:28< mordante> timotei, Windows or Linux
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20110222 22:05:08< timotei> mordante: windows.
20110222 22:05:08< timotei> but on ubuntu too afair
20110222 22:05:08< timotei> lemme test again
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20110222 22:05:28< YogiHH> Ivanovic: wesnoth crashes if traits don't have a name. Should we turn that into a meaningful error message or have wmllint find it or both?
20110222 22:05:59< Ivanovic> YogiHH: hmm, i thought that there was alread a check like this in wmllint, not 100% sure though
20110222 22:06:09< Ivanovic> but you know me, i am all in favor of useful and helpful error messages
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20110222 22:06:39< YogiHH> Ivanovic: Could be, that would mean that esr didn't apply that check to his own code ;)
20110222 22:06:56< YogiHH> Ivanovic: Or that it wasn't available at that time
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20110222 22:07:22< Ivanovic> YogiHH: i'd say: talk to esr so that he makes sure it is checked for in wmllint (if possible)
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20110222 22:07:42< esr> YogiHH: I apply wmllint to all of manline, including my own code, regularly. 
20110222 22:07:43< timotei> mordante: just Windows it seems
20110222 22:08:01< esr> YogiHH: What error are we talking about?
20110222 22:08:09< YogiHH> esr: then it seems that it doesn't check for traits having a name attribute
20110222 22:08:38< YogiHH> esr: it's the cuttlefish in scenario 1 of UtBS
20110222 22:09:09< esr> Looking.
20110222 22:09:29< zookeeper> traits like that ought to not need to have a name, though.
20110222 22:09:45< zookeeper> it shouldn't show in the traits list
20110222 22:10:10< YogiHH> zookeeper: the code tries to add a trait description and crashes
20110222 22:10:33< zookeeper> YogiHH, well, that's gotta be a somewhat recent bug then
20110222 22:10:39< YogiHH> zookeeper: is there any way to distinguish which traits should be shown and which not?
20110222 22:11:00< iwontbecreative> I can't reproduce the crash with trunk :/
20110222 22:11:01< zookeeper> YogiHH, nothing besides using an empty name
20110222 22:11:04< YogiHH> zookeeper: Quite possible, i haven't touched wesnoth for quute some time
20110222 22:11:29< zookeeper> in any case, it should default to an empty name and description if none are given
20110222 22:12:08< zookeeper> i don't see any reason to force the author to explicitly specify empty ones
20110222 22:12:20< YogiHH> zookeeper: yes, i agree
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20110222 22:13:33< mordante> timotei, ok thanks, guess that that event is Windows only
20110222 22:13:39< zookeeper> (also, the bug could probably be workarounded by just changing [trait] to [object], but that's probably not relevant here...)
20110222 22:13:50< mordante> however I see what needs to be done so can fix it
20110222 22:13:58< mordante> btw thanks for the report YogiHH 
20110222 22:14:19< YogiHH> mordante: sure, np
20110222 22:19:41< timotei> mordante: yes. i think so
20110222 22:20:11< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: Looks like the french translation still hasn't any active maintainer
20110222 22:20:22< iwontbecreative> Some complains on the m-l about this
20110222 22:20:35< iwontbecreative> And quite some translations that should be sent upstream
20110222 22:20:37< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: ugh, this sucks
20110222 22:20:57< Ivanovic> hmm, i thought i saw noyga around in the last days (though just lurking)
20110222 22:21:17< fendrin> Ivanovic: Yes, noyga did talk in here.
20110222 22:21:44< Ivanovic> cool
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20110222 22:22:39< iwontbecreative> Hmmm, did he talked in the ml?
20110222 22:23:09< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen noyga
20110222 22:23:09< wesbot> Ivanovic: The person with the nick Noyga last spoke 2d ago.  1d 1h ago person left: "Leaving"
20110222 22:23:24< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: no idea if he wrote to the french ml
20110222 22:23:28< iwontbecreative> I havn't got any mail from the ml since 03/02/11
20110222 22:23:33< iwontbecreative> So I guess no
20110222 22:23:47< iwontbecreative> Noyga is the translation maintainer?
20110222 22:24:02< Ivanovic> at least he was commiting the work a while ago
20110222 22:24:24< shadowmaster> last time he committed was on May 9th, 2010
20110222 22:26:52< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: then, uhm, have someone on the list stepup to the position of maintainer and follow the "maintainer guideling"
20110222 22:27:13< iwontbecreative> I can message them about this
20110222 22:27:39< Ivanovic> yeah, in the wiki noyga is listed as maintainer
20110222 22:27:43< Ivanovic> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothTranslations
20110222 22:28:16< Ivanovic> the maintainer would have to follow the "translation maintainers" potion from this page: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothTranslationsHowTo#How_to_submit_your_translations
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20110222 22:32:28< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: When was last time you recieved a translation for french?
20110222 22:32:49< Ivanovic> probably never, since noyga tends to upload himself (he got the privs)
20110222 22:33:15< Ivanovic> ah, no, wrong
20110222 22:33:50< Ivanovic> had some updates from "Guillaume GUIGOU" between may and august
20110222 22:34:15< Ivanovic> besides i had your manual update in january
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20110222 22:38:25< mordante> I'm off night
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20110222 22:56:27< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: sent a message to the ml
20110222 22:57:22< iwontbecreative> With the current situation, asking for Noyga and Guillaume to say if they want to continue to maintain the translation and if not, asking to the others if someone wants to be the new maintainer
20110222 22:58:21< Ivanovic> sounds good to me, waiting to eventually see the "please commit this" mail from the new french maintainer
20110222 22:58:36< Ivanovic> okay, i am basically off now, will watch a movie and then try to sleep
20110222 22:58:46< iwontbecreative> Good night :)
20110222 22:59:30< iwontbecreative> Hope someone will accept to see which files can be comitted, there's like 6 months of archives to go trough :D
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20110222 23:59:26-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.9.5 planned once the Khalifate are in | 177 bugs, 304 feature requests, 24 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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