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20110228 01:06:55< [Relic]> Hello :)
20110228 01:07:03< loonycyborg> Hi :)
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20110228 07:04:04< shadowmaster> wowzers
20110228 07:04:13< shadowmaster> an unreproducible crash
20110228 07:04:29< Espreon> Not surprising.
20110228 07:04:40< shadowmaster> ah damn
20110228 07:04:54< shadowmaster> it just affects an executable linked with google's perftools
20110228 07:05:50< shadowmaster> attaching a debugger in middle of the execution works around it 
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20110228 09:25:05< CIA-33> espreon * r48678 /trunk/src/language_win32.ii: Fixed indentation.
20110228 09:26:37< CIA-33> espreon * r48679 /branches/1.8/src/language_win32.ii: Fixed indentation.
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20110228 10:12:56< Ivanovic> moin
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20110228 11:26:41< Ivanovic> deekay: what is the status of the 1.8 tree?
20110228 11:26:55< deekay> wip
20110228 11:27:01< Ivanovic> you mentioned something you wanted to see backported/fixed there to make a new 1.8.x release really worth the work
20110228 11:27:09< deekay> Yes
20110228 11:27:14< deekay> I need to finish it
20110228 11:27:30< deekay> But I have *really* no time till 7th March
20110228 11:27:38< Ivanovic> okay
20110228 11:27:40< deekay> After that I'll finish it
20110228 11:28:01< Ivanovic> just wanted to make sure that i ain't waiting for something that is already done
20110228 11:28:20< deekay> I'll tell you once I finish it :)
20110228 11:28:41< Ivanovic> deekay: was it you showing us the "drag&drop" stuff in the game creation area?
20110228 11:28:43< Ivanovic> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/726372
20110228 11:29:33< Ivanovic> looks like a really annoying thing for tablet users (it *is* freaking hard to touch something and not move the cursor at least a little!)
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20110228 11:31:37< deekay> Ivanovic: Yes, it was me. :)
20110228 11:32:04< Ivanovic> deekay: any idea whom to best bug about this "bug, no longer oddity"?
20110228 11:34:58< deekay> I don't have idea.
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20110228 11:52:52< Ivanovic> fabi: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=33169
20110228 12:00:50< fabi> Ivanovic: danke
20110228 12:00:56< Ivanovic> bitte
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20110228 16:26:14< vultraz> what are Khalifate
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20110228 16:27:43< AI0867> vultraz: a faction
20110228 16:27:44< Crendgrim> a faction that probably will be mainlined in 1.10
20110228 16:27:58< vultraz> ooooo
20110228 16:28:07< vultraz> and when will 1.10 be out
20110228 16:28:15< Ivanovic> when it is ready!
20110228 16:29:32< vultraz> ah
20110228 16:30:40< AI0867> they'll probably appear in 1.9.5
20110228 16:31:52< Crendgrim> Ivanovic: when do you plan to release it circa? Around december or rather next year?
20110228 16:32:14< Ivanovic> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Fosdem2011#Wesnoth_1.10
20110228 16:32:15< loonycyborg> We'll time it with Duke Nukem Forever :P
20110228 16:33:06< Crendgrim> wooo... don't say such things, loony. If that'll become true, I'll blame you :p
20110228 16:33:12< TronPaul> soon you won't be able to make that joke anymore
20110228 16:33:20< Crendgrim> Ivanovic: thanks
20110228 16:33:24< TronPaul> you'll have to go back to saying it about starcraft ghost
20110228 16:33:43< Crendgrim> maybe.
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20110228 16:36:48< AI0867> I thought ghost was actually canceled?
20110228 16:36:49< vultraz> oh BTW i have some new terrain ideas: cliffs, waterfalls, lavafalls, cracked cave ground, valleys, and maybe core the UtBS custom terrain
20110228 16:37:11< TronPaul> AI0867, my friend still says it's listed on Bliz's website
20110228 16:37:14< vultraz> gates
20110228 16:37:16< TronPaul> he bitches about it sometimes
20110228 16:37:28< TronPaul> though I'm not sure if he's checked recently
20110228 16:37:49< vultraz> noxious swamp 
20110228 16:38:13< AI0867> what was the name of the ghost you play again?
20110228 16:38:22< TronPaul> no idea
20110228 16:38:44 * TronPaul never played starcraft back in the day
20110228 16:38:54< TronPaul> and still not super interested in Bliz titles
20110228 16:39:39< vultraz> fallen trees
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20110228 16:47:21< vultraz> anyone interested in my terrain ideas?
20110228 16:48:39< Espreon> I'm sure they're excellent. Start makin' art!
20110228 16:48:40< Crendgrim> vultraz: Of course. Paint them. Will be useful in many places, I think.
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20110228 17:04:55< vultraz> is there an article on how to do terrain on the wiki?
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20110228 17:43:32< vultraz> is there a SurvivalXtreme GIT?
20110228 17:45:41< Gambit> loonycyborg, TronPaul: Regarding Duke Nukem Forever jokes: we have a Wesnothian example.
20110228 17:45:50< Gambit> You can say things will be released when Thunderstone Era is :D
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20110228 19:02:13< anonymissimus> you should have just locked that thread without a word Gambit xD
20110228 19:04:15< Gambit> I try to be a nice guy. :)
20110228 19:04:52< Gambit> His idea isn't exactly the same as the previous save manager request (assuming you refer to the thread I moved to ideas)
20110228 19:05:08< Gambit> I think he's asking for a delete all button that doesn't do replays or something. :s
20110228 19:06:16< Gambit> Too bad he's a windows user or I could give him a command to do what he wants. :D
20110228 19:06:29< Gambit> *Mac
20110228 19:06:49< timotei> Gambit: do what? there are pretty much commands that work the same on mac as on unix
20110228 19:07:18< anonymissimus> 99% of the threads in the ideas forums are useless non-coder stuff
20110228 19:09:17< Gambit> Actually I guess I can't come up with a command. Saves and replays have the same extension, and you can give them arbitrary names.
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20110228 19:12:11< TronPaul> what's the difference between replays and saves?
20110228 19:12:30< TronPaul> at least the easiest way to determine
20110228 19:12:48< TronPaul> because you could write a python script to look inside the gz
20110228 19:13:11< TronPaul> (because python is awesome and has built in gz support)
20110228 19:14:19< Gambit> (So does perl :D)
20110228 19:14:33< Gambit> janebot: !quote 2 Sirp
20110228 19:14:33< janebot> Gambit: "shhhh pipe down. You'll start an argument with a horde of Python fanatics. Us cool coders are just meant to quietly Get Stuff Done(tm) in the languages that are actually good for hacking in and let the Python illuminati live in their delighted smugness that their language is all powerful." - Sirp 2
20110228 19:15:50< timotei> come on... are we dealing with our _own_ preffered tools/langs?
20110228 19:15:54< timotei> (agian)?
20110228 19:15:57< timotei> s/agian/again
20110228 19:16:33< Gambit> No. I just wanted an opportunity to use that quote again. :D
20110228 19:18:23< TronPaul> lawl
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20110228 19:37:56< iwontbecreative> Tronpaul: Difference is simple, replays have info inside [replay][/replay] while saves havn't
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20110228 19:51:18< iwontbecreative> Hmm, not that simple apparently, some saves have info inside [replay]
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20110228 20:06:32< Soliton> most saves have replays inside but replays shouldn't have a gamestate/snapshot inside.
20110228 20:09:50< iwontbecreative> Ah, yes, so should be easy to do a script for that
20110228 20:10:11< iwontbecreative> It may be usefull for things like ladder but other than that not really interessting
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20110228 20:15:50< mordante> servus
20110228 20:16:32< timotei> hi mordante 
20110228 20:17:45< mordante> hi timotei 
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20110228 20:26:37< CIA-33> anonymissimus * r48681 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Redirect units unstored to greater than map width/height to the recall list. (fix for bug #17792)
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20110228 21:06:02< CIA-33> anonymissimus * r48682 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Changed a log domain to make [recall] shut up about "recall list is empty when trying to recall" messages. These aren't helpful for the wml author. [recall] is often used even though the unit isn't supposed to be there.
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20110228 21:09:42< iwontbecreative> mordante: You were looking for me?
20110228 21:09:44< mordante> anonymissimus, why make it a debug message^?
20110228 21:10:02< mordante> is it really that useless?
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20110228 21:10:26< mordante> iwontbecreative, yes, was wonder whether you still wanted to work on the wiki_grabber
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20110228 21:10:44< iwontbecreative> mordante: Yes, for what?
20110228 21:11:05< iwontbecreative> mordante: I did everything that you said that should be done, no?
20110228 21:11:52< mordante> I'm not sure whether you wanted to look into a real parser to work on the nested stuff
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20110228 21:12:15< iwontbecreative> Hmmm, I think I did commit this stuff
20110228 21:12:55< mordante> IIRC you committed the spaces hack
20110228 21:13:11< mordante> but we discovered to do things properly a real parser would be needed
20110228 21:13:25< mordante> and I'm not sure whether you wanted to work on it
20110228 21:13:30< iwontbecreative> Hmm, sucks
20110228 21:13:44< iwontbecreative> I had all word done and I tought I did commit it
20110228 21:13:46< mordante> python has no recursive regex :-(
20110228 21:14:03< iwontbecreative> Maybe it was a problem with my gpg key that took very long to import on gna
20110228 21:14:12< iwontbecreative> But I had done a parser for this
20110228 21:14:34< iwontbecreative> I should be able to re-write it without too much trouble.
20110228 21:14:55< iwontbecreative> (I reinstalled /home/ when I switched to debian)
20110228 21:15:25< iwontbecreative> mordante: Basically the way I did it was too parse line per line
20110228 21:15:30< mordante> you did commit a way which counts the number of spaces and divides by 4 for the nest level
20110228 21:15:50< mordante> but you did that for GCI
20110228 21:15:58< iwontbecreative> mordante: That was the *hack* to make it work, I had made a real parser
20110228 21:16:17< mordante> :-( a shame it's not committed
20110228 21:16:31< iwontbecreative> I'll do it in the next days
20110228 21:16:48< iwontbecreative> Probably wednesday, should have some time
20110228 21:17:04< mordante> ok cool
20110228 21:17:50< iwontbecreative> mordante: I'm not sure if it is handled the right way.
20110228 21:18:33< mordante> ok
20110228 21:18:49< anonymissimus> mordante: yes it is
20110228 21:18:55< iwontbecreative> So I might need your help just to see if it's right
20110228 21:19:08< anonymissimus> and its annoying; issues warnings for non-persistant sides
20110228 21:21:48< mordante> anonymissimus, well I'm somewhat surprised the message ends with an exclamation mark and is then throw in the set of debug messages (somehow feels wrong to me)
20110228 21:22:28< mordante> and I also wonder whether it should be info or debug, since debug shows a lot of messages
20110228 21:23:08< mordante> iwontbecreative, no problem just ping me when you want me to have a look
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20110228 21:35:10< anonymissimus> mordante: remove the ! or make it a log message if you're concerned :P
20110228 21:37:53< CIA-33> boucman * r48683 /trunk/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Add parallel analysis of unit invalidation using OpenMP. This is ifdefed out by default, mail to wesnoth-dev to follow shortly
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20110228 21:40:36< timotei> heh, org application is opened
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20110228 21:41:55< boucman> already ? I thought it started next week...
20110228 21:42:06< timotei> just got email from Carols
20110228 21:42:26< timotei> Carol*
20110228 21:43:39< boucman> k
20110228 21:43:58< iwontbecreative> mordante: Before I start to (re)code, do you think it's ok if I parse line per line?
20110228 21:51:07< mordante> anonymissimus, great answer, really helpful :-|
20110228 21:52:13< mordante> iwontbecreative, I think that should be possible, or just parse all the text until you reach the wanted tokens
20110228 21:52:38< mordante> the delimiters are no longer and EOL symbol so you can also parse the entire text
20110228 21:53:00< mordante> s/and/an/
20110228 21:53:36< iwontbecreative> mordante: I ran into problems doing it that way
20110228 21:54:22< mordante> then best try the line based approach
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20110228 22:21:42< iwontbecreative> mordante: Looks like the tool already works when they arn't much nested items
20110228 22:22:19< mordante> ok interesting, just curious why is there a nest limit?
20110228 22:23:04< iwontbecreative> Because I'm doing it the wrong way :D
20110228 22:23:19< mordante> ok
20110228 22:23:19< iwontbecreative> I just want to have a working tool before handling ,ore complex things
20110228 22:23:39< iwontbecreative>  So now it works well with lines and starts to handle nests
20110228 22:23:39< mordante> reasonable, like I said just curious
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20110228 22:31:10< iwontbecreative> mordante: The tool works with the current input
20110228 22:31:15< iwontbecreative> Gives the same output
20110228 22:31:33< mordante> cool :-)
20110228 22:40:09< iwontbecreative> mordante: http://pastebin.com/ZVaAgru6     That's current code, sure there's a little problem but no big issue I think
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20110228 22:41:10< iwontbecreative> it will fail if you have things like [description][description][/description][description][/description][/description]
20110228 22:41:57< iwontbecreative> But it should be able to handle things like [description][description][description]...[/description][/description][/description]
20110228 22:45:25< iwontbecreative> mordante: I know how to fix this but they're probably hidden bugs that will come with more testing
20110228 22:45:42< iwontbecreative> But I can't test much since we only have 1 description currently
20110228 22:45:56< CIA-33> espreon * r48684 /trunk/src/language_win32.ii: Associate the correct Windows locale with 'tr'.
20110228 22:47:00< CIA-33> espreon * r48685 /branches/1.8/src/language_win32.ii: Associate the correct Windows locale with 'tr'.
20110228 22:53:57< CIA-33> espreon * r48686 /trunk/src/language_win32.ii: Added missing Windows locale association for 'is', 'mt', and 'vi'.
20110228 22:59:01< mordante> iwontbecreative, looks interesting, will have a longer look tomorrow
20110228 23:00:11< mordante> yeah we need more descriptions to test with, only need somebody to add them ;-)
20110228 23:00:30< mordante> at the moment I'm doing a code review of gui2 when in the train
20110228 23:00:49< iwontbecreative> mordante: The nice thing is that this way I don't need to change the syntax
20110228 23:00:55< mordante> once done I could look at adding more descriptions to test this feature
20110228 23:01:11< iwontbecreative> And most of the code that looks complicated in the patch is string manipulation
20110228 23:01:26< iwontbecreative> mordante: Ok
20110228 23:02:09< mordante> and maybe I'm able to add some descriptions when waiting for the compiler
20110228 23:02:19< mordante> I often use that time to do some minor janitor work
20110228 23:03:03< iwontbecreative> mordante: now I just need to clean the description formatter function (doesn't need to be a loop), and fix the issue with some kinds of nested items and it should be ok
20110228 23:03:32< mordante> ok cool
20110228 23:04:02< mordante> you really improved the tool quite a bit :-)
20110228 23:05:50< mordante> I'm off now night
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20110228 23:06:00< iwontbecreative> mordante: good night
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20110228 23:36:03< eoc> Ivanovic: when do you plan to submit this year's soc application? I'm not sure about how verbose we are expected to be in some parts :)
20110228 23:36:27< Ivanovic> eoc: uhm, have not looked at things yet
20110228 23:36:37< Ivanovic> how much time is there to submit?
20110228 23:36:42< eoc> I'll not be around for quite some days (3,4,6-11) which is why I already hurry with it :)
20110228 23:36:50< eoc> ends at march 11 23 utc
20110228 23:37:05< Ivanovic> then i'll probably do it next weekend
20110228 23:37:29< eoc> okay, coming back with concrete questions then (-,
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20110228 23:44:42< CIA-33> espreon * r48687 /trunk/src/language_win32.ii: 'mt' -> 'mr'.
20110228 23:47:38< CIA-33> espreon * r48688 /trunk/src/language_win32.ii: Associate 'tl' with its Windows locale.
20110228 23:48:05< CIA-33> loonycyborg * r48689 /trunk/SConstruct: 
20110228 23:48:05< CIA-33> Added a scons option to enable openmp support using gcc's GOMP
20110228 23:48:05< CIA-33> openmp=true to enable.
20110228 23:56:32< boucman> loonycyborg: you might be able to autodetect openmp by looking for libgomp
20110228 23:57:14< loonycyborg> I know. I'd rather not for now.
20110228 23:57:23< boucman> ok, fair enough
20110228 23:57:28< loonycyborg> Since it's still experimental..
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