--- Log opened Sat Feb 05 00:00:37 2011
20110205 00:26:51-!- zookeeper2 [~l@87-100-216-87.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 00:30:01-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20110205 00:30:16-!- zookeeper2 is now known as zookeeper
20110205 00:30:21-!- zookeeper [~l@87-100-216-87.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Changing host]
20110205 00:30:21-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 01:17:10-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit []
20110205 02:58:10-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]
20110205 02:58:45-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 03:35:28-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 04:38:38-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 04:38:39-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110205 04:39:49-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 04:42:21-!- Rei2 [ayanami@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/rei2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110205 04:42:48-!- Shadowplumber [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20110205 04:44:29-!- Rei2 [ayanami@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/rei2] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 04:44:32-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v Rei2] by ChanServ
20110205 04:44:47-!- Shadowplumber [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 04:55:05-!- Shadowplumber is now known as shadowm_laptop
20110205 05:18:20-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 06:43:03-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-75-45-25-77.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 07:12:46-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-75-45-25-77.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 08:04:27-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
20110205 08:04:27-!- Rei2 [ayanami@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/rei2] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
20110205 08:06:01-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 08:06:10-!- Rei2 [ayanami@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/rei2] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 08:06:13-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v Rei2] by ChanServ
20110205 09:17:25-!- BfWEthnographer [~BfWEthnog@151.76.148.102] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 09:37:29-!- Espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
20110205 09:37:36-!- Espreon [~espreon@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 09:38:02-!- Espreon is now known as Guest32181
20110205 09:39:44-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110205 09:40:10-!- Rei2 [ayanami@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/rei2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20110205 09:41:27-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 10:03:07-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 10:04:06-!- AI0867 is now known as AI|FOSDEM
20110205 10:04:15-!- thespaceinvader is now known as tsi_FOSDEM
20110205 10:53:53-!- tsi_FOSDEM [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20110205 10:57:37-!- tsi_FOSDEM [~chatzilla@52-33-191-193.ipv4.fosdem.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 10:58:01-!- tsi_FOSDEM is now known as thespaceinvader
20110205 10:58:12-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@52-33-191-193.ipv4.fosdem.net] has quit [Changing host]
20110205 10:58:12-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 11:40:51-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 12:38:47-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20110205 12:49:39-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.88.136] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 12:49:39-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.88.136] has quit [Changing host]
20110205 12:49:39-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 12:49:42-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v loonybot] by ChanServ
20110205 12:50:37-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 13:09:24-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 13:10:10-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-182-52-50.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze]
20110205 13:22:18-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 13:22:47-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110205 13:44:29-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 13:58:30-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20110205 14:04:20-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 14:04:20-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v janebot] by ChanServ
20110205 14:23:43-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.174] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 14:26:14< Gambit> vultraz: It started in one of the mainline campaigns with rather meh art.
20110205 14:26:23< Gambit> But then Stern made it amazing.
20110205 14:26:53< vultraz> its UGLY!
20110205 14:27:20< Gambit> He took it from this: http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=39356
20110205 14:27:27< Gambit> to this: http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=44634
20110205 14:27:37< Gambit> vultraz: It's supposed to be ugly :P
20110205 14:27:49< Gambit> It's like 70% raw sewage
20110205 14:27:59< vultraz> humm i see
20110205 14:28:06< vultraz> it was a good change
20110205 14:28:37< Gambit> (I'm kidding about the sewage part, but yeah it's supposed to be the most disgusting critter in Wesnoth)
20110205 14:32:37< vultraz> it is
20110205 14:38:30< vultraz> do the units i placed on my map have to have a leader with canrecruit=yes?
20110205 14:38:57< vultraz> or will they work even if i just specify side
20110205 14:45:37< zookeeper> you need a leader unless you want your side to lose immediately.
20110205 14:51:11< vultraz> gerr
20110205 14:51:39< vultraz> then how do i tell the event to ignore the enemy leader and fire when all of the placed units are gone?
20110205 14:55:51-!- BfWEthnographer [~BfWEthnog@151.76.148.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 15:07:22< Gambit> vultraz: if you don't want the leader to require an enemy use victory_after_enemies_defeated=no
20110205 15:07:33< Gambit> place them under [scenario] somewhere
20110205 15:07:38< Gambit> like above the side definitions
20110205 15:07:53< Gambit> vultraz: Err wait is this single player or multiplayer?
20110205 15:10:31< vultraz> multi
20110205 15:10:40< Gambit> Oh well then nevermind.
20110205 15:10:47< vultraz> :(
20110205 15:10:55< Gambit> vultraz: So you need a filter that matches non-leader enemies?
20110205 15:11:06< Gambit> just include a canrecruit=0
20110205 15:12:06< vultraz> i'm trying to tell that "[event] name = turn refresh [if][not][have_unit]side=3[/have_unit][/not][then] This stuff activates when side 3 is out of units[/then][/if]" to ignore the leader when searching
20110205 15:13:07< Gambit> right so add canrecruit=0 to your [have_unit]
20110205 15:13:20< Gambit> That way it only applies to enemies that can't recruit
20110205 15:18:50< vultraz> ok
20110205 15:19:16< vultraz> also, what do i name a event if i want a message to pop up when the terrain change happens?
20110205 15:33:24 * zookeeper slaps Gambit with a canrecruit=no
20110205 15:35:38< vultraz> can't recruit what :P
20110205 15:37:39< Gambit> vultraz: just put a [message] after [/terrain]
20110205 15:37:52< Gambit> zookeeper: Hmmm I thought we were forced to use numeric booleans now
20110205 15:38:17< zookeeper> uh... no idea where you got that idea from
20110205 15:38:46< Gambit> Me either.
20110205 15:38:56< Gambit> But I had it. :\
20110205 15:39:40< Gambit> Clearly someone snuck into my dream within a dream withing a dream and planted it there.
20110205 15:39:52< zookeeper> what we have now is proper booleans (almost?) everywhere, so you don't need to use 1 and 0 in one place and yes and no in another and true and false in a third
20110205 15:44:01< vultraz> Gambit: I tried out Valianca, but the map is 90% pure water!
20110205 15:45:12< Gambit> Well the version is 0.0.1 and the description is "currently in unplayable pre-alpha"
20110205 15:45:32< Gambit> And the last upload was in september :$
20110205 15:45:35< vultraz> you should work on it
20110205 15:45:36< Gambit> I should take it down.
20110205 15:45:56< Gambit> vultraz: I should, but for some reason WML is just very unappealing during the school year.
20110205 15:46:42< vultraz> what were your plans for it?
20110205 15:46:55< vultraz> i mean, features, story, etc
20110205 15:47:23< Gambit> The only planning I had done was that it'd be an RPG with persistent characters.
20110205 15:47:35< Gambit> Your character is saved to your harddisk.
20110205 15:47:41< Gambit> When you start a new game, you can load it back up.
20110205 15:48:02< Gambit> You can be playing with bob and susie, and then start a new game against fred with the same character.
20110205 15:48:20< Gambit> Then let's say you all get togethor, but Susie quits.
20110205 15:48:29< Gambit> That OK because George the observer comes in and loads up his character.
20110205 15:48:38< Gambit> No need to reload the game and look for someone else.
20110205 15:48:43< vultraz> so i guess the units were to be fully customizable avatars?
20110205 15:48:53-!- Rei2 [ayanami@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/rei2] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 15:48:56-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v Rei2] by ChanServ
20110205 15:48:58-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 15:50:15< Gambit> It would also contain many elements of mmorpg's
20110205 15:50:33< vultraz> nice
20110205 15:50:45< Gambit> quests, respawning enemies with aggro radii
20110205 15:55:27< Gambit> And of course, member's only areas ;)
20110205 15:55:41< Gambit> (Joking on that last part)
20110205 16:07:38< Gambit> thespaceinvader: Someone may or may not be about to show you some... interesting IRC logs, but they're probably photoshopped.
20110205 16:07:52< thespaceinvader> huh?
20110205 16:07:53< Gambit> ♥
20110205 16:08:02< Gambit> xD
20110205 16:08:07< thespaceinvader> bear in mind, by the way, that you're on candid projector :P
20110205 16:08:15< thespaceinvader> i'm drawing in full view of the whole room
20110205 16:08:30< Gambit> Haha
20110205 16:08:34< Gambit> Hello FOSDEM!
20110205 16:08:46 * Gambit flees
20110205 16:09:01-!- grzywacz [grzywacz@kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 16:09:03< grzywacz> hi grzywacz !
20110205 16:09:05< grzywacz> hi Gambit !
20110205 16:09:14< Gambit> hi grzywacz
20110205 16:12:01< vultraz> nice! 82 downloads of my add-on!
20110205 16:41:08-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110205 16:41:09-!- Rei2 [ayanami@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/rei2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110205 16:43:43< vultraz> Gambit: i like the ideas you have for Valianca
20110205 16:45:11-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-75-45-25-77.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 16:45:51-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 16:45:52-!- Rei2 [ayanami@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/rei2] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 16:45:55-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v Rei2] by ChanServ
20110205 16:48:25-!- grzywacz [grzywacz@kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl] has left #wesnoth-umc-dev []
20110205 17:08:22< vultraz> Gambit: did i even tell you where i was going with my add-on?
20110205 17:08:34< Gambit> nope
20110205 17:08:39< vultraz> ah
20110205 17:08:43< vultraz> do u want to know?
20110205 17:09:27< Gambit> Yes
20110205 17:11:32< vultraz> ok, my idea was to take the best of SCX, Bob's RPG, and the AMLA era concept, combine them, add some new features of my own, and drop all that into a mp campaign with exciting maps and storyline
20110205 17:17:09< vultraz> what do you think
20110205 17:19:18< Gambit> So one massive customization RPG
20110205 17:31:24< vultraz> Well, you'd get gold for defeating units like in SCX, stores with items from both SCX and Bob's. The stores would be understocked at the beginning,but would gain more items through AMLA. You could also hire units and exchange them as well as gold with other players.  Locks and doors like in SXRPG, villages being to give and take abilities, etc
20110205 17:34:24< vultraz> hows that sound
20110205 17:36:06-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-75-45-25-77.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 17:36:20< vultraz> of course, that's just a rough idea. it might get tamed down a bit when i do the coding
20110205 17:44:48< vultraz> Gambit u there?
20110205 17:44:58< Gambit> Yes sorry
20110205 17:45:34< Gambit> So the stores gaining items via AMLAs means that high level items aren't unlocked until higher levels?
20110205 17:45:38< Gambit> Neat
20110205 17:46:04< vultraz> yes
20110205 17:46:37< vultraz> gtg now bye
20110205 17:47:58< Gambit> see you
20110205 17:48:53<+CIA-41> weldyn: Ignacio R. Morelle master * r4208edb / includes/functions.php : Main: disable the Team memberlist view - http://bit.ly/eCqXWj
20110205 18:03:28-!- shikadibot [~shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting]
20110205 18:03:32-!- shikadibot [~shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 18:03:35-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v shikadibot] by ChanServ
20110205 18:05:00-!- shikadibot [~shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Client Quit]
20110205 18:05:35-!- shikadibot [~shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 18:05:38-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v shikadibot] by ChanServ
20110205 18:05:41-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110205 18:07:21-!- Guest32181 [~espreon@ai0867.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 18:07:21-!- AI|FOSDEM [~ai@wesnoth/developer/ai0867] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 18:07:21-!- shikadibot [~shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 18:07:21-!- shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110205 18:07:37-!- AI0867 [~ai@wesnoth/developer/ai0867] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 18:08:24-!- AI0867 is now known as AI|FOSDEM
20110205 18:08:58-!- shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 18:09:06-!- shikadibot [~shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 18:09:09-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v shikadibot] by ChanServ
20110205 18:10:07-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has quit [Quit: deekay]
20110205 18:10:12-!- thespaceinvader [~chatzilla@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit [Quit: see you all at FOSDEM, day 2, tomorrow!]
20110205 18:31:52-!- shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: you are doing it right!]
20110205 18:36:06-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-75-45-25-77.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 18:44:29-!- shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 18:51:24-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-182-52-50.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 19:26:58-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 19:26:58-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110205 19:28:24-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 19:29:14-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 19:29:15-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v janebot] by ChanServ
20110205 19:57:12-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 20:02:43-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-182-52-50.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze]
20110205 20:18:06-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20110205 20:27:35-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 20:32:59-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20110205 20:33:24-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-75-45-25-77.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 20:38:07-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110205 20:38:08-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110205 20:40:36-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 20:51:38-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110205 20:53:56-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 21:10:19-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 21:19:32-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
20110205 21:28:02-!- Espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 21:41:31-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 21:41:33-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v janebot] by ChanServ
20110205 22:10:48-!- zookeeper2 [~l@87-100-216-87.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 22:11:10-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110205 22:11:38-!- zookeeper2 is now known as zookeeper
20110205 22:11:43-!- zookeeper [~l@87-100-216-87.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Changing host]
20110205 22:11:43-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 22:20:57-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 22:33:28-!- un214 [~un214@75.45.25.77] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20110205 23:12:17-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgc28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
--- Log closed Sun Feb 06 00:00:43 2011