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20110201 00:12:14< zookeeper> vultraz, got it working?
20110201 00:13:06< vultraz> i can load it in the multiplayer fine
20110201 00:14:00< zookeeper> but?
20110201 00:14:18< vultraz> but i still can't load i in the editor
20110201 00:14:36< zookeeper> still? i didn't know you had any problems in the editor.
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20110201 01:10:36< vultraz> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/560786 is there something wrong with my [side] and [/side] tags?
20110201 01:30:24< vultraz> i get "invalid closing tag for tag part(/path/to/my/scenario0, value ']'" what does that mean?
20110201 01:33:25< Gambit> vultraz: search for unclosed strings
20110201 01:33:46< Gambit> Or macros with the wrong number of arguments.
20110201 01:34:24< vultraz> but i didn't use any macros i just added side, color, and controller
20110201 01:34:34< Gambit> Line 22 is interesting.
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20110201 01:36:14< vultraz> yeah :)
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20110201 08:02:04< Pernz> Hi everyone :)
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20110201 08:08:18< Pernz> I was wondering if there is going to be an
20110201 08:08:29< Pernz> Update for the iPhone version?
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20110201 10:17:29< Ivanovic> moin
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20110201 21:46:41< KimmyNL> Hi! This is the first time I'm here but I was hoping someone could help me with a little multiplayer problem/bug I've been having..
20110201 21:47:13< Mussious> #wesnoth-mp
20110201 21:47:24< KimmyNL> Thank you!
20110201 21:47:33< Mussious> NP
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20110201 22:17:34< DeathBurst> hi o/
20110201 22:18:15< DeathBurst> is there someone available to explain some details to a newb ?
20110201 22:18:30< DeathBurst> that is, how to play multiplayer campaigns
20110201 22:18:51< DeathBurst> i only found how to BUILD MP campaigns on the forum ^^'
20110201 22:20:11< Aethaeryn> Just start it like a regular MP scenario
20110201 22:20:19< Aethaeryn> it just doesn't end, it keeps going
20110201 22:20:27< Aethaeryn> when the scenario ends
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20110201 22:22:48< Aethaeryn> I think
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20110201 22:25:04< DeathBurst> thx Aethaeryn 
20110201 22:25:49< Aethaeryn> If the campaign is done right, only the first scenario should be up there.
20110201 22:25:55< Aethaeryn> Just play the first scenario as if it's an MP scenario.
20110201 22:26:34< DeathBurst> and is there any MP campaign in base installation or must i download one from somewhere ?
20110201 22:26:53< Aethaeryn> depends on your version
20110201 22:27:05< Aethaeryn> LoW, I think, is in the process of being MP campaignified if it hasn't been finished already
20110201 22:27:23< DeathBurst> 1.8.5
20110201 22:29:55< Aethaeryn> There does appear to be a "Legend of Wesmere" entry at the bottom of the official lsit
20110201 22:29:59< Aethaeryn> *list
20110201 22:30:01< Aethaeryn> right before any downloads are listed
20110201 22:30:08< Aethaeryn> below the benchmark tests
20110201 22:30:40< Aethaeryn> There's also about 12 "MP campaign" type add-ons
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20110201 22:31:21< Aethaeryn> Though based on Sturgeon's law, only 1.2 are worth playing
20110201 22:32:02< Aethaeryn> I kid
20110201 22:32:04< Aethaeryn> Both Wesband and World Conquest should be worth playing if you want something not so much story-driven...
20110201 22:32:19< Aethaeryn> Wesband is a roguelike, similar to games like nethack... random dungeon crawling RPG
20110201 22:32:42< Aethaeryn> World Conquest is... like a random map vs. the AI, but expect large armies... iirc
20110201 22:32:49< Aethaeryn> So they do have different strengths and weaknesses
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20110201 22:33:41< Aethaeryn> Gobowars is by jb so I don't think it's bad, but I've never played/seen it
20110201 22:34:06< Aethaeryn> Same with The Altaz Mariners
20110201 22:34:21< Aethaeryn> I guess Sturgeon's law doesn't apply because of the low sample size and because MP campaigns are harder to get working
20110201 22:34:27< shadowmaster> ...
20110201 22:34:32< DeathBurst> okay
20110201 22:34:36< DeathBurst> thx ^^
20110201 22:34:57< Aethaeryn> (That's 90% of everything is crap, btw, that's the law. But it doesn't seem to apply to the MP campaign list)
20110201 22:35:17< Aethaeryn> DeathBurst: Anyway, I'd recommend trying out popular add-ons (though download count isn't a reliable indicator since it's mostly based on position in the list)
20110201 22:35:24< Aethaeryn> So go based off of author's names
20110201 22:36:13< Aethaeryn> Bob The Mighty, Ken Oh, jb, Gambit, Elvish Pillager, etc., are some names that come to the top of my head.
20110201 22:36:25< Aethaeryn> For MP, of course.
20110201 22:36:40< Aethaeryn> Not all have campaigns though.
20110201 22:37:16< DeathBurst> hmm, in fact i just started playing wesnoth, and i wanted to try it with a friend on MP campaigns
20110201 22:37:28< DeathBurst> any suggestion ?
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20110201 22:37:30< Aethaeryn> Yeah, just look for those who have a reputation and try some of their add-ons.
20110201 22:37:40< Aethaeryn> Forum, IRC, just word-of-mouth, stuff that's played a lot on MP, etc.
20110201 22:38:11< Aethaeryn> Unfortunately, this past year I've been too busy to try epic-in-length MP stuff like I used to play... so...
20110201 22:38:23< Aethaeryn> I'm not quite sure who's current and who's inactive and who's new.
20110201 22:38:57< Aethaeryn> Trust me, though, the good stuff gets played so the best thing to do is to lurk various Wesnoth-related places to find out what's fun.
20110201 22:39:22< Aethaeryn> DeathBurst: You don't need to do an MP campaign, too. Some really large MP scenarios can take 1-2 days.
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20110201 22:39:59< Aethaeryn> E.g. Brotherhood of Light takes *forever* to play so I've only done it once even though I've played most of Bob The Mighty's RPGs.
20110201 22:40:05< DeathBurst> okay
20110201 22:40:22< Aethaeryn> Just keep in mind that MP tends to have stuff that radically deviates from the norm
20110201 22:40:41< DeathBurst> that is to say ?
20110201 22:40:42< Aethaeryn> In terms of SP campaigns, most of the ones I've played are rather standard, except for a few like Ooze Mini Campaign.
20110201 22:40:54< Aethaeryn> In MP campaigns, there are sometimes some really wild gameplay deviations.
20110201 22:41:07< vultraz> I added controller=ai to 4 sides in the scenario i'm designing, but they still don't appear as computer player sides when loading the game. why?
20110201 22:41:10< Aethaeryn> E.g. right click context menus to do all sorts of odd stuff like spells/upgrades to do RPG style, or building...
20110201 22:41:48< Aethaeryn> There's even a Modern Combat scenario that attempts to do modern-era warfare on a worldmap and implements things like real ranged.
20110201 22:41:59< Aethaeryn> Though I'm not sure what they've done on that lately.
20110201 22:43:42< DeathBurst> i'll stick to LoW for starter
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20110201 22:44:06< VurtualRuler98> Can you make wesnoth never try to move when you give a move order onto another unit?
20110201 22:44:10< VurtualRuler98> To, say, do something else instead?
20110201 22:44:23< Aethaeryn> You mean the camera?
20110201 22:45:43< VurtualRuler98> the unit
20110201 22:46:04< VurtualRuler98> Tell unit to move to a blank hex, normal move. Tell unit to move at another enemy unit, don't do any movement.
20110201 22:46:05< Aethaeryn> rephrase?
20110201 22:46:29< VurtualRuler98> as a mod
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20110201 23:25:45< vultraz> I submitted an update for my add-on to the add-ons server, but it still displays the old version. why?
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20110201 23:27:26< shadowmaster> did you make sure to update the version field in the .pbl file?
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20110201 23:47:14< vultraz> there's a pic in images/units/monsters of something called a "fireghost". What's it's official name? "Fireghost"? "Fire Ghost"?
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