--- Log opened Wed Feb 02 00:00:18 2011
20110202 00:03:00< vultraz> no those don't work
20110202 00:03:07< vultraz> so what is the name
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20110202 00:06:08< Elvish_Pillager> vultraz: Fire Guardian
20110202 00:06:23< vultraz> kk
20110202 00:06:24< vultraz> ty
20110202 00:23:41< vultraz> humm I'm having trouble placing him
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20110202 00:23:51< vultraz> it doesn't appear on the map
20110202 00:25:33< vultraz> I used placement="16,49"
20110202 00:25:37< vultraz> is that right?
20110202 00:26:08< Elvish_Pillager> if you're writing a [unit] tag in WML, you want x,y=16,49
20110202 00:26:35< vultraz> oh
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20110202 01:11:45< vultraz> what's the WML for a store?
20110202 01:29:34< Gambit> I suppose you don't want the answer "really complex".
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20110202 01:33:09< Gambit> The nesting involved is particularly nightmarish.
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20110202 03:19:26< ancestral> Quick question
20110202 03:19:48< ancestral> Do you need a _server.ign file in your addon's folder or does that get auto-generated?
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20110202 10:19:03< nital> are wesnoth replays backward compatible? i.e. can I play a 1.6 replay on 1.8?
20110202 10:20:11< Rhonda> no
20110202 10:20:24< nital> darn
20110202 10:21:00< Rhonda> But don't count my answer as an official one.
20110202 10:21:17< Rhonda> You _might_ give it a try. It _might_ work. It though isn't guaranteed to work.
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20110202 10:25:04< Ivanovic> moin
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20110202 11:27:22< vultraz> I'm working on an mp scenario, but want to add an few more map and turn it into a mp campaign. What new files do I have to add?
20110202 11:27:32< vultraz> a campaign.cfg
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20110202 11:34:26< Rhonda> There is an official multiplayer campaign that you can look at for a reference …
20110202 11:34:36 * Rhonda . o O ( don't ask me for its name, though )
20110202 11:34:44< Rhonda> Was it Liberty?
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20110202 12:05:18< vultraz> oh you mean Wesmere?
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20110202 12:26:19< Rhonda> probably, I'm confused
20110202 12:31:19< miudyk> wwooooooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo \o/ :D:D
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20110202 13:55:50< vultraz> if i want to change my mp scenario to a mp campaign, do i just add the WML to tell it where to load the next map?
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20110202 16:02:56< vultraz> bye all
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20110202 16:12:01< Palmik> Hi guys, I'm conctantly getting this error http://codepad.org/5CSDUJcy my version is 1.9.4 and it happens in multiplay campaign when I click during dialog
20110202 16:12:47< Palmik> have you ever encountered this error? and where can I fill bug report (if it's not reported already)?
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20110202 17:46:48< IRCjacob> Hello
20110202 17:47:36< IRCjacob> I want to help debug
20110202 17:47:40< IRCjacob> How do I start
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20110202 17:49:13< nital> IRCjacob: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ReportingBugs
20110202 17:50:12< IRCjacob> I want to help solve them.
20110202 17:50:23< IRCjacob> I don currently have one
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20110202 17:50:50< nital> IRCjacob: are you a C++ programmer? Then look at http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothSVN , get the code, choose a bug from the bugtracker and submit the patch after you're done
20110202 17:50:58< IRCjacob> Ok
20110202 17:53:27< IRCjacob> Somethings funky with gna's certificate
20110202 17:54:01< Gambit> Yep.
20110202 17:54:04< Gambit> It's OK though.
20110202 17:54:08< nital> always was ;-)
20110202 17:54:25< Gambit> What is the problem with that anyway?
20110202 17:54:27< Gambit> Is it a money thing?
20110202 17:54:27< nital> Palmik: besides the link I gave to jacob, you may also want to look at this topic: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=25660
20110202 17:56:05< nital> Gambit: I don't know, maybe they just didn't prolong it
20110202 17:56:18< nital> for some time it was fine
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20110202 17:56:43< nital> looks like they got that problem in the past again: http://gna.org/support/?1997
20110202 17:58:33< Gambit> Ah I found it: http://gna.org/tls/tutorial/
20110202 17:58:58< Gambit> The method(?) they use to sign the certificate is not widespread.
20110202 17:59:21< Unnheulu> Gambit/they don't pay for one
20110202 17:59:34< Unnheulu> s/one/it to be signed/
20110202 17:59:40< nital> I think the reason is because cacerts.org issues certificates for free
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20110202 18:01:06< Gambit> Ugh. So it either is a money issue, or it's this ridiculous "We refuse to pay for anything because everything should be free and open and awesome" mentality.
20110202 18:02:20< Unnheulu> Imo its ridiculous your charged for one
20110202 18:04:53< VurtualRuler98> Although one can easily argue that money is a good inhibiter of misuse, it seems a bit bizarre here.
20110202 18:05:10< IRCjacob> How much is one?
20110202 18:05:38< VurtualRuler98> Then again, if you charge for a ceritficate, it can serve to fund whoever needs funding. If there is a whoever.
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20110202 19:18:24< IRCjacob> Hello
20110202 19:19:09< IRCjacob> I am trying to fix https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?17625
20110202 19:19:30< IRCjacob> Where does wesnoth store the campaign?
20110202 19:21:34< IRCjacob> Found it
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20110202 19:34:56< IRCjacob> I want to skip to the 14th scenario, how do I do that?
20110202 19:35:19< Gambit>  :cl
20110202 19:35:30< Gambit> You might have to :debug first
20110202 19:35:57< Gambit> (those are in-game commands)
20110202 19:37:01< IRCjacob> Thank you
20110202 19:38:59< IRCjacob> Do I have to re-compile after editing a campaign?
20110202 19:39:13< Gambit> No
20110202 19:39:43< Gambit> Just restarting the game will do. Or you can even leave the game open, but hit f5 from the main menu.
20110202 19:40:22< IRCjacob> Thank you one more :D
20110202 19:42:58< IRCjacob> Ok, I fixed  https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?17625
20110202 19:43:01< IRCjacob> Now what?
20110202 19:43:29< IRCjacob> How do I upload, I mean.
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20110202 19:45:23< IRCjacob> Gambit: How do I upload my bug fix?
20110202 19:45:56< Gambit> You need to make a diff and upload it to http://patches.wesnoth.org
20110202 19:46:31< IRCjacob> A diff?
20110202 19:47:27< Gambit> Well you might just be able to upload code and instructions too.
20110202 19:47:30< Gambit> What OS are you on?
20110202 19:47:39< IRCjacob> Linux
20110202 19:47:42< IRCjacob> Ununtu
20110202 19:47:50< IRCjacob> *Ubuntu
20110202 19:47:54< Gambit> okay open up the terminal
20110202 19:48:00< IRCjacob> done
20110202 19:48:09< Gambit> cd to the directory
20110202 19:48:13< IRCjacob> also done
20110202 19:48:18< Gambit> svn diff
20110202 19:48:27< Gambit> read that and make sure that there aren't any changes you don't want included
20110202 19:48:44< Gambit> then I believe it is
20110202 19:48:52< Gambit> svn diff > blah.diff
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20110202 19:49:22< IRCjacob> blah?
20110202 19:49:29< Gambit> Whatever you want to call it ;)
20110202 19:49:32< Gambit> my_patch.diff
20110202 19:49:34< IRCjacob> Oh
20110202 19:49:36< Gambit> bananasmoothie.diff
20110202 19:50:07< IRCjacob> Done ^_^
20110202 19:50:13< IRCjacob> ls
20110202 19:50:19< IRCjacob> done
20110202 19:50:34< IRCjacob> bananasmoothie.diif located
20110202 19:50:35< Gambit> Okay that file is your patch :D
20110202 19:51:02< Gambit> to be uploaded, with a description to http://patches.wesnoth.org
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20110202 19:56:20< Mike1> Wesnoth is so huge :(
20110202 19:56:32< Mike1> taking forever to unpack and compile
20110202 19:56:46< IRCjacob> Done :D
20110202 19:57:24< IRCjacob> Now what happens?
20110202 20:00:58< Gambit> IRCjacob: And now you must have patience.
20110202 20:01:11< IRCjacob> :o How much patience?
20110202 20:01:11< Mike1> is IRCjacob compiling too?
20110202 20:01:18< Mike1> let’s make a compiling-battle!
20110202 20:01:18< IRCjacob> Compiled :D
20110202 20:01:18< Gambit> IRCjacob: OH yeah the bug that you picked to fix
20110202 20:01:24< Gambit> you should comment on it with a link to your patch
20110202 20:01:31< Gambit> and make sure to note in the patch comments which bug it fixes
20110202 20:01:48< Mike1> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32423 this bug by any chance? :)
20110202 20:01:56< IRCjacob> I think I put it in the comment
20110202 20:02:01< IRCjacob> The bug fix
20110202 20:02:22< IRCjacob> Mike1: Nope 
20110202 20:02:36< IRCjacob> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?17625
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20110202 20:03:05< IRCjacob> Oh
20110202 20:03:10< IRCjacob> On the bug page
20110202 20:03:21< Crendgrim> Mike1: No solution yet? :(
20110202 20:03:25< Mike1> whats the full name of LoW?
20110202 20:03:29< Mike1> Crendgrim: just the workaround
20110202 20:03:32< IRCjacob> Legend of Wesmere
20110202 20:04:00< Mike1> Crendgrim: which I’m just applying on Wesnoth’s srpm Package :)
20110202 20:05:04< IRCjacob> Gambit: Ok, done
20110202 20:05:09< Crendgrim> Mike1: But you are able to play Wesnoth, aren't you?
20110202 20:05:17< Mike1> Crendgrim: I am :)
20110202 20:05:33< Crendgrim> Mike1: Then everything's okay ;)
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20110202 20:05:39< Mike1> now I just need new campaigns, I’ve played all the official ones
20110202 20:05:43< Mike1> any recommendations?
20110202 20:06:23< Crendgrim> did you play Invasion from the Unknown?
20110202 20:06:55< Mike1> no
20110202 20:09:44< IRCjacob> Ok, I linked to my patch
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20110202 20:10:34< IRCjacob> How do I enable it?
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20110202 20:18:01< Mike1> yay, my patched RPM works :)
20110202 20:22:36< Mike1> Invasion from the Unknown looks nice :)
20110202 20:24:25< Mike1> and it mentions my beloved Quenoth Elves from Under the burning Suns!
20110202 20:24:59< Gambit> It is the sequel
20110202 20:26:08< Gambit> Unofficial, but created by one of the Wesnoth developers
20110202 20:26:17< Gambit> A handsome fellow to be sure.
20110202 20:28:56< Gambit> Mike1: The next one in the story is called "After the Storm" but shadowmaster hasn't finished it yet :(
20110202 20:29:48< Gambit> You should give him motivation in the form of rigorous application of a fork. :D
20110202 20:29:53< Gambit> Or praise. Praise works too.
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20110202 20:45:30< nital> where did the random starting time of day option go?
20110202 20:47:05< Mike1> Gambit: well, right now I’m not in the right mood for praise … I’ve failed twice in the first scenario of Invasion from the Unknown allready -.-
20110202 20:47:14< nital> I remember it from 1.6 for sure...
20110202 20:47:24< Mike1> either it’s damn hard (even on normal) or I haven’t improved as much as I thought I had
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20110202 21:08:44< GNUtoo|laptop> hi, is there a way to relocate wesnoth's data(/usr/share/wesnoth/ without recompiling wesnoth)
20110202 21:08:59< GNUtoo|laptop> because I had the crazy idea of doing an install on NAND
20110202 21:09:06< GNUtoo|laptop> on an embedded device
20110202 21:09:10< GNUtoo|laptop> 256M with ubifs
20110202 21:09:23< GNUtoo|laptop> about 89M are taken by wesnoth-data
20110202 21:09:37< GNUtoo|laptop> which are....I bet...not very compressed on the filesystem
20110202 21:10:13< Mike1> you could probably just delete the music?
20110202 21:10:31< fendrin> Where can I find the weapon special that removes the ZOC of a unit?
20110202 21:10:32< Mike1> would safe quite some space
20110202 21:14:26< grzywacz> GNUtoo|laptop, you can move it anywhere
20110202 21:14:34< GNUtoo|laptop> ah? 
20110202 21:14:34< grzywacz> GNUtoo|laptop, just give the path as the first argument to wesnoth binary
20110202 21:14:35< GNUtoo|laptop> how?
20110202 21:14:43< GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok nice
20110202 21:14:48< GNUtoo|laptop> thanks a lot
20110202 21:15:04< GNUtoo|laptop> because I didn't have time to reinstall, reformat, retransfer the data etc....
20110202 21:15:45< Crendgrim> or create a symbolic link to anywhere ... I think that should also do the job 
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20110202 21:15:56< GNUtoo|laptop> ah better idea
20110202 21:16:04< GNUtoo|laptop> altough the other partitions are fat
20110202 21:16:07< GNUtoo|laptop> is it a problem?
20110202 21:16:12< Crendgrim> fat?
20110202 21:16:15< GNUtoo|laptop> Vfat
20110202 21:16:18< GNUtoo|laptop> the filesystem
20110202 21:16:18< Crendgrim> why do you use fat?
20110202 21:16:28< GNUtoo|laptop> because flt is obtimized for fat
20110202 21:16:43< GNUtoo|laptop> flash translation layer
20110202 21:16:51< Crendgrim> okay...
20110202 21:17:24< Crendgrim> (hehe.. in that case I wouldn't use that flt rather than using fat :p But nevermind. )
20110202 21:17:26< GNUtoo|laptop> I'll give more context
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20110202 21:17:37< GNUtoo|laptop> the device is the nokia n900
20110202 21:17:42< GNUtoo|laptop> but it doesn't run maemo nor meego
20110202 21:17:47< GNUtoo|laptop> it runs another distro
20110202 21:17:52< GNUtoo|laptop> that is named SHR
20110202 21:18:07< GNUtoo|laptop> I had the crazy idea of installing it on NAND 
20110202 21:18:20< GNUtoo|laptop> usually it's fine
20110202 21:18:25< GNUtoo|laptop> but wesnoth has a lot of data
20110202 21:18:32< GNUtoo|laptop> there is also a onenand of 32G
20110202 21:18:42< GNUtoo|laptop> I could have put an ext3 partition there
20110202 21:18:51< GNUtoo|laptop> that's a mistake not to have done that
20110202 21:18:54< GNUtoo|laptop> but now it's done
20110202 21:19:00< GNUtoo|laptop> and all my data is on it
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20110202 21:30:59< GNUtoo|laptop> the symlink works
20110202 21:31:20< GNUtoo|laptop> Crendgrim, note that the flt is mandatory as it's built in the hardware
20110202 21:31:31< GNUtoo|laptop> basically when you buy an usb key
20110202 21:31:34< GNUtoo|laptop> a microsd card 
20110202 21:31:35< GNUtoo|laptop> etc...
20110202 21:31:42< GNUtoo|laptop> you have:
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20110202 21:31:53< Crendgrim> mh.. k
20110202 21:31:58< GNUtoo|laptop> raw_flash<->FLT<->usb_mass_storage
20110202 21:32:04< Crendgrim> sry, I thought you spoke about a PC
20110202 21:32:18< GNUtoo|laptop> to get a block device out of it they use a flash translation layer
20110202 21:32:23< Crendgrim> (and I must admit that I never heard about flt before :/ )
20110202 21:32:28< GNUtoo|laptop> which is often obtimized for fat, buggy etc....
20110202 21:32:34< GNUtoo|laptop> that's normal
20110202 21:32:50< GNUtoo|laptop> it's because you are not in the low-level embedded world :)
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