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20110305 00:03:27< zookeeper> Ivanovic, well, i dunno if he provided an email address, so whichever works for you
20110305 00:06:43< Ivanovic> he provided an email address and it is the same as used for his forum account
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20110305 00:16:20< zookeeper> Ivanovic, ok, so i presume you'll deal with it (or maybe already did)?
20110305 00:16:34< Ivanovic> zookeeper: i sent him a pm with a hint to his passphrase
20110305 00:16:47< zookeeper> great, thanks
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20110305 00:23:55< boucman> night all
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20110305 08:53:33< boucman> anybody can reproduce https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?17573 ? (right most column being copied all over the screen when scrolling to the right)
20110305 08:53:45< boucman> there is a patch for the bug but I can't reproduce and thus can't test
20110305 08:54:05< boucman> seeing the patch, i'm ready to blindly commit it, but someone testing would be better
20110305 09:13:30< Soliton> it looks like the problem is already fixed upstream in SDL 1.2 and 1.3.
20110305 09:14:37< boucman> Soliton: what makes you say that ? url plz ?
20110305 09:14:52< Soliton> http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1090
20110305 09:15:10< boucman> thx
20110305 09:15:12< shadowmaster> out of curiosity, do we want to support 16 bpp anymore?
20110305 09:16:22< boucman> and SDL_BlitSurface is the same issue ?
20110305 09:16:30< Soliton> since it sounds like only newer systems with memcpy optimizations in glibc are affected those will also soon get a new SDL...
20110305 09:16:47< Soliton> still might not hurt to commit the workaround.
20110305 09:17:21< Soliton> boucman: i got to that report via our bug report you posted.
20110305 09:17:31< Soliton> you just have to follow some links.
20110305 09:17:49< boucman> the workaround needs to copy the surface so it has a mem cost... not ure how big though
20110305 09:18:16< boucman> ok, afk for a while
20110305 09:18:57< Soliton> maybe only ifdef it in on old (current) SDL versions then.
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20110305 09:39:23< boucman> I think i'll solve it as upstream problem, since it has been fixed both in sdl 1.2 and 1.3 apparently...
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20110305 09:56:10< mordante> servus
20110305 10:01:45< fendrin> hi mordante
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20110305 10:08:49< CIA-52> mordante * r48738 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
20110305 10:08:49< CIA-52> Verify all dialogs are tested in the unit test.
20110305 10:08:49< CIA-52> Still has a small exception list of not yet tested dialogs, but this
20110305 10:09:58< mordante> hi fendrin 
20110305 10:12:14< CIA-52> fendrin * r48739 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/recruit.cfg: Demonstration commit to gain help from mordante
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20110305 10:17:59< Ivanovic> moin
20110305 10:18:58< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
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20110305 10:22:38< Ivanovic> zookeeper: got a reply by PM, my hints were enough
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20110305 11:01:46< CIA-52> mordante * r48740 /trunk/src/gui/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Minor code and comment cleanups.
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20110305 12:16:23< CIA-52> fendrin * r48741 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/image_message/recruit_message.cpp: Code cleanups.
20110305 12:19:50< CIA-52> fendrin * r48742 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/image_message/ (unit_message.cpp unit_message.hpp): Split from wml_message.
20110305 12:21:31< CIA-52> fendrin * r48743 /trunk/data/gui/default/widget/image_scaled.cfg: image_definition for scaled unit portraits, not working.
20110305 12:25:25< CIA-52> fendrin * r48744 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/maps/Kalian.map: LoW 3+7: map updates.
20110305 12:32:37< CIA-52> fendrin * r48745 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/ (image_message.cfg recruit.cfg): Code cleanups.
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20110305 12:47:44< CIA-52> fendrin * r48746 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: code cleanup
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20110305 13:00:51< CIA-52> fendrin * r48747 /trunk/src/ (CMakeLists.txt SConscript): Added the new message gui class files to two build methods.
20110305 13:01:34< CIA-52> fendrin * r48748 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/ (wml_message.cpp wml_message.hpp): Got rid of the old wml_message class.
20110305 13:02:21< CIA-52> fendrin * r48749 /trunk/src/tests/gui/test_gui2.cpp: Adjusted the tests to the new dialogs. Still some work to be done.
20110305 13:02:59< CIA-52> fendrin * r48750 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Wml code is now calling the new message classes.
20110305 13:04:29< CIA-52> fendrin * r48751 /trunk/data/gui/default/macros/_initial.cfg: Added macros from the old wml_message. mordante, do you know a better place for them?
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20110305 13:05:19< CIA-52> fendrin * r48752 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/wml_message.cfg: Got rid of the config for the old wml_message dialog.
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20110305 13:20:38< CIA-52> fendrin * r48753 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/image_message/recruit_message.cpp: Fixed building with the experimental list flag.
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20110305 13:25:02< CIA-52> fendrin * r48754 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Fixed a warning.
20110305 13:29:34< fendrin> gut
20110305 13:37:22< Ivanovic> deekay: what is the status of the kalifate?
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20110305 14:23:48< deekay> Ivanovic: No clue, last week I spent making 3D animation assignment for my uni.. which I finished yesterday, till wednesday I'm out of time completely due to 2 other assignments I *have* to finish...
20110305 14:24:19< deekay> So during this week it's been only "work, 3D, sleep, work, 3D sleep..." loop :S
20110305 14:25:14< deekay> Ivanovic: But I'll ask noy what he wants me to do once I see him here.
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20110305 14:27:06< mordante> fendrin, can you fix the unit tests, you're broken them again :-|
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20110305 14:27:57< Ivanovic> deekay: okay
20110305 14:28:46< deekay> Ivanovic: Like I mentioned last time - I'll hace some time after 8th March :)
20110305 14:29:13< Ivanovic> deekay: your studies are more important than wesnoth, so you really should concentrate on those
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20110305 14:31:13< deekay> Ivanovic: I'm doing so. :)
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20110305 14:54:38< CIA-52> mordante * r48755 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/field.hpp: 
20110305 14:54:38< CIA-52> Allow a field to be linked to a variable.
20110305 14:54:38< CIA-52> This allows variables to be directly updated instead of writing setter
20110305 14:54:43< CIA-52> of variables. The new idea is to send these variables per reference and
20110305 14:54:46< CIA-52> mordante * r48757 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
20110305 14:54:46< CIA-52> Change the new map dialog to the new execute.
20110305 14:54:46< CIA-52> The unit test 'seems' to function; it worked before rebasing. After
20110305 14:54:57< CIA-52> mordante * r48758 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/ (dialog.hpp tip.cpp): Rename REGISTER_WND to REGISTER_WINDOW.
20110305 14:55:07< iwontbecreative> mordante: I'll need your help to test test_libsvn.py, I don't know how to test it by myself
20110305 14:55:36< iwontbecreative> I'm removing duplicated lines
20110305 14:56:55< CIA-52> fendrin * r48759 /trunk/src/tests/gui/test_gui2.cpp: disabled all testing of image_message.
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20110305 15:01:01< mordante> iwontbecreative, what do you exactly need help with?
20110305 15:01:13< iwontbecreative> I don't know how to test it
20110305 15:02:38< mordante> I use it for Wescamp 
20110305 15:03:17< mordante> so you either need a local 'wescamp repo' or make a read-only checkout and disable the commit part
20110305 15:03:25< mordante> you can also ask me to test it 
20110305 15:03:32< iwontbecreative> Ok
20110305 15:03:49< iwontbecreative> I'll first do the cleanup and then ping you
20110305 15:04:06< mordante> ok, will be afk soon
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20110305 17:32:54< CIA-52> fendrin * r48760 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/image_message/recruit_message.cpp: Fixed a drawing delay.
20110305 17:34:52< CIA-52> fendrin * r48761 /trunk/data/gui/default/widget/image_scaled.cfg: Switched to scalled images, still not working.
20110305 17:35:17< CIA-52> anonymissimus * r48762 /trunk/projectfiles/ (CodeBlocks/wesnoth.cbp VC9/wesnoth.vcproj): project files update
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20110305 18:06:45< CIA-52> iwontbecreative * r48764 /trunk/data/tools/about_cfg_to_wiki: Remove one uneeded include and minor changes.
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20110305 18:19:49< iwontbecreative_> Does data/tools/expand-terrain-macros.py usage section really needs to display "0123456789" height times?
20110305 18:20:09< iwontbecreative_> Looks just like a debug thing to see terminal size limit
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20110305 18:24:18< boucman> I don't remember it doing that
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20110305 18:26:58< iwontbecreative_> It does: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/data/tools/expand-terrain-macros.py?view=markup
20110305 18:27:14< iwontbecreative_> Look at function printUsage
20110305 18:28:25< iwontbecreative_> If it's not needed I'll remove it with the other changes I'm making.
20110305 18:28:34< boucman> feel free
20110305 18:28:43< boucman> what are you changing to it out of curiosity ?
20110305 18:29:08< iwontbecreative_> No behaviour change.
20110305 18:29:15< boucman> k
20110305 18:30:08< iwontbecreative_> Just making it clearer (79 char lines, better pylint results...)
20110305 18:30:16< boucman> k
20110305 18:32:35< CIA-52> iwontbecreative * r48765 /trunk/data/tools/expand-terrain-macros.py: Remove one useless line. Remove many lines that were too long. Use triple-quotes when it's clearer.
20110305 18:34:32< iwontbecreative_> Hmm, should be change many lines not remove :D
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20110305 19:40:40< CIA-52> iwontbecreative * r48766 /trunk/data/tools/scoutDefault.py: 
20110305 19:40:40< CIA-52> Make scoutDefault work with python 2.6 (Was only working with 2.5), remove one
20110305 19:40:40< CIA-52> unused argument, use booleans instead of 0 and 1, use triple quotes when it's
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20110305 19:57:31< iwontbecreative> Does somebody know if we still use data/tools/terrain2wiki.rb ?
20110305 19:58:25< iwontbecreative> The Wiki page that is mentionned redirects to another and it hasn't been updated since 03/2009
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20110305 19:59:17< iwontbecreative> If it's not used, we could remove it, if it's still used I'll convert it to python (no need to have yet another scripting language...)
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20110305 20:00:14 * mordante sees another language flamewar ;-)
20110305 20:00:27< boucman> what is .rb ?
20110305 20:00:33< mordante> but no idea whether the script is used and if so what it's supposed to to
20110305 20:00:40< iwontbecreative> ruby
20110305 20:00:41< mordante> s/to to/to do/
20110305 20:00:54< boucman> i'd say it documents all terrain in the wiki as a wild guess :P
20110305 20:01:14< iwontbecreative> Couldn't get it to work, that's the problem :P
20110305 20:01:26< mordante> boucman, yeah just looked at it ;-)
20110305 20:01:38< boucman> 2009 was probably after the big terrain format change so chances are that it still work, but I have never heard of it so i'm pretty sure its unmaintained
20110305 20:02:05< boucman> and we decided a long time ago to uniformize all tools to python, so if you feel like rewriting it my guess is nobody would complain
20110305 20:02:22< iwontbecreative> rev34281: Remove most of the machinery relevant to obsolete 1.2 terrains,
20110305 20:02:25< iwontbecreative> we'll clean up the rest on the next pass.
20110305 20:02:34< boucman> mordante: do you think there are some easy task/GSoC ideas that could come from your wml2wiki tool, btw ?
20110305 20:03:51< mordante> boucman, yes, but not sure how interesting people will find it
20110305 20:04:04< mordante> boucman, the same for adding more unit tests to the code
20110305 20:04:14< boucman> define "people" :)
20110305 20:04:24< boucman> hmm, yes might be better as a GCI
20110305 20:04:38< mordante> yup
20110305 20:05:07< mordante> well try to find somebody who loves the job to only add comment to source code
20110305 20:05:26< mordante> to be honest doesn't sound like a real GSoC task to me
20110305 20:05:34< mordante> the unit tests are at the border IMO
20110305 20:05:49< boucman> no, more like EasyCoding for the pre-gsoc period
20110305 20:06:02< mordante> still like to discuss the GSoC status once Crab_ is around
20110305 20:06:19< boucman> i'll try to redact a bit tomorow
20110305 20:06:37< mordante> ok cool
20110305 20:07:26< mordante> probably also will look tomorrow, but also want to work on polishing the gui2 code
20110305 20:07:48< mordante> if a student is going to work on it, I hope to have removed all old bad style cruft
20110305 20:07:59< iwontbecreative> Soliton: Does terrain2wiki.rb still works with all the terrain changes? Also, is it still used?
20110305 20:08:14< boucman> mordante: keep some cruft for the pre-gsoc :P
20110305 20:08:20< mordante> iwontbecreative, Soliton committed it for Cib
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20110305 20:08:36< mordante> iwontbecreative, "A script to create the "Terrain Table" on the TerrainLettersWML wiki page by cib."
20110305 20:08:47< mordante> speak of the devil, hi Crab_ 
20110305 20:08:54< Ivanovic> regarding gsoc: i just updated the list of questions provided by google
20110305 20:09:03< Crab_> hi, mordante
20110305 20:09:12< boucman> mordante: that could come handy, if we get it to work
20110305 20:09:19< boucman> Ivanovic: many changes ?
20110305 20:09:42< iwontbecreative> Ah, damn :(
20110305 20:09:46< mordante> boucman, well some of the cruft is not something I want to throw at students (polishing templates) ;-)
20110305 20:09:50< Ivanovic> boucman, eoc: so how shall we answer this new question in regards to the projects you want to see accepted in gsoc?
20110305 20:10:01< Ivanovic> "If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name and why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:"
20110305 20:10:09< eoc> Ivanovic: heya
20110305 20:10:13< Crab_> mordante: I'll update the pages related to my gsoc ideas, tomorrow
20110305 20:10:15< boucman> Ivanovic: do you have the url around so I don't have to search ?
20110305 20:10:19< eoc> guess I already put in our answer there recently
20110305 20:10:26< Ivanovic> boucman: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SoC_Information_for_Google
20110305 20:10:28< iwontbecreative> History of the terrain code page also doesn't look like updates are generated by a script
20110305 20:11:02< Ivanovic> boucman: the questions are basically identical
20110305 20:11:20< boucman> thx
20110305 20:11:21< eoc> and shared it with you as well. of course a slightly less advertising tone will also suffice ;-) > http://paste.pocoo.org/show/H6lwQ24o4OnclcNuQc0g/
20110305 20:11:27< mordante> boucman, and another part is code reviewing to see whether everything looks fine, also not something for a student unfamiliar with the code base
20110305 20:11:31< Ivanovic> though our answers could use some nice touchups to be up to date with 2011 (meaning the 2010 results being listed)
20110305 20:11:32< boucman> Ivanovic: I can redact the 1.18 wrt Darktable
20110305 20:11:51< boucman> (i'll do it right away while i'm at it)
20110305 20:11:52< mordante> iwontbecreative, guess that means the script isn't used and you can rewrite it ;-)
20110305 20:12:35< mordante> Crab_, how many GSoC ideas do you have?
20110305 20:12:35< Ivanovic> eoc: what do you think why you (unknown horizon) are a good candidate for gsoc?
20110305 20:12:45< Ivanovic> i mean besides you being a game, which is always good
20110305 20:12:47< Ivanovic> ;)
20110305 20:12:50< eoc> o;
20110305 20:13:27< mordante> boucman, Crab_, Ivanovic had the idea to add unit tests as a GSoC project, do you two feel it's a valid GSoC project?
20110305 20:13:52< eoc> I think we are a team that will surely not break over the following months and the mentors that are around currently know the codebase very well. I'll mostly do the organising stuff so they can focus on their mentees
20110305 20:13:58< Ivanovic> mordante: i really had this idea?
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20110305 20:14:08< Ivanovic> okay, sounds sane to have, so why not add it
20110305 20:14:10< Crab_> mordante: lua ai extensions, some engine refactorings (not entirely sure about this one), better MP scenario support (setup dialogs, difficulty selectors, etc)
20110305 20:14:20< mordante> boucman, Crab_  I feel it's valid but on the border line but if you don't disagree I'll add it
20110305 20:14:30< iwontbecreative> mordante: Will try to do it, but I'll have to rewrite the tool, not just change ruby to python
20110305 20:15:03< eoc> UH has a rather nice infrastructure already and we could make use of a few fresh coders since we right now have three at most
20110305 20:15:22< mordante> iwontbecreative, yup, but I think it's nice to have, if you finish it, please ping me then I'll add it to the wiki_grabber update script I run regulary
20110305 20:15:35< mordante> Crab_, ok nice that's a whole bunch
20110305 20:15:52< eoc> I think even if we are rather small, students still can gain experience in most fields of OSS coding (including remote repos & vcs, localisation, patch reviews) as in some larger organization
20110305 20:15:53< Crab_> mordante: I think that 'integration tests' (i.e. a way to automatically test campaign startup/scenarios/dialogs) is a good thing, but unit tests are not that useful at this point (the code has to be ready for unit tests, that is)
20110305 20:16:20< boucman> no opinion, I don't know much about wesnoth's unit-test needs
20110305 20:16:39< boucman> would these be a set of WML scripts, an automated infrastructure, some test scenarios, something else ?
20110305 20:16:40< iwontbecreative> mordante: You mean it will go into wiki_grabber.py?
20110305 20:16:40< Crab_> mordante: but the 'integration test' stuff is blocked by 'provide alternate input devices for wesnoth GUI' (i.e., allow to interact with gui from lua scripts)
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20110305 20:17:32< mordante> Ivanovic, I'm quite sure it was you ;-)
20110305 20:18:24< mordante> Crab_, I agree that integration tests would be even more useful, but we have some 'library code' which can be unit tested
20110305 20:18:39< mordante> eg all formulas for the formula language
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20110305 20:19:13< mordante> boucman, boost unit tests as already in trunk but then adding more tests
20110305 20:19:24< Crab_> mordante: it needs to be an area which is more-or-less actively developed, then, to benefit us
20110305 20:19:47< boucman> Ivanovic: added
20110305 20:19:47< mordante> iwontbecreative, no but I'll add it to the script that calls wiki_grabber.py
20110305 20:21:47< iwontbecreative> Ok, looks logical, because wiki_grabber works on source files and terrain2wiki on data files.
20110305 20:22:50< mordante> Crab_, yes and no, but if you add your bunch of projects I fear nobody will pick it, it's not sexy at all
20110305 20:23:14< mordante> iwontbecreative, exactly and I think it won't share much code
20110305 20:23:17< Ivanovic> eoc: currently writing a paragraph about UH, i hope it is fine to copy a little from your website
20110305 20:23:18< Ivanovic> ;)
20110305 20:23:27< eoc> sure, that's what it is for :)
20110305 20:23:45< mordante> iwontbecreative, not sure how you want to approach it, but there are some python WML parsers in the code if you need them
20110305 20:24:07< Ivanovic> okay, added UH
20110305 20:24:17< Ivanovic> boucman, mordante, Crab_, eoc: fine with this? http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SoC_Information_for_Google#If_you_are_a_large_organization_who_is_vouching_for_a_small_organization_applying_to_GSoC_for_their_first_time_this_year.2C_please_list_their_name_and_why_you_think_they.27d_be_good_candidates_for_GSoC_here:
20110305 20:25:01< mordante> Crab_, in what way do you exactly need 'provide alternate input devices for wesnoth GUI'? gui2 only or both gui1 and gui2 and any ideas how it should look?
20110305 20:25:30< Crab_> Ivanovic: no opinion, I don't know about those two projects. graphics and ideas on http://www.unknown-horizons.org/ look nice, though )
20110305 20:25:57 * Ivanovic thinks of old school text adventures when thinking about being able to control wesnoth by scripting like commands
20110305 20:25:59< eoc> Ivanovic: I'm very fine with it, thanks (:
20110305 20:26:07< Ivanovic> "archer attack ork"
20110305 20:26:12< iwontbecreative> mordante: Probably don't need to use them, looks like the terrain2wiki code is simple to parse
20110305 20:27:16< mordante> ok
20110305 20:27:45< boucman> eoc: looks good, how playable is it at this point ?
20110305 20:28:18< eoc> we have no known issues in our last release
20110305 20:28:28< Ivanovic> eoc: regarding your ideas page: you can also ask to only have the "private" information available in the google tracker
20110305 20:28:29< boucman> ok, so the game is playable
20110305 20:28:39< eoc> besides garbage with the settings file on windows which needs to be deleted once in time
20110305 20:28:41< boucman> that's pretty rare for game projects, congratulation :)
20110305 20:28:46< eoc> yup, definitely
20110305 20:28:49< eoc> heh, thanks 
20110305 20:29:11< eoc> Ivanovic: is that also visible by the backup admin then?
20110305 20:29:12< Ivanovic> no need to only mail the admin (which can be problematic in case the admin gets ill (can happen) and the info is not available in another way)
20110305 20:29:17< mordante> Ivanovic, did you write it or boucman and eoc?
20110305 20:29:22< Ivanovic> it is visible to all mentors and students
20110305 20:29:38< boucman> mordante: I wrote the DT part
20110305 20:29:39< Ivanovic> mordante: boucman wrote the darktable part, i wrote the UH part
20110305 20:29:59< Crab_> mordante: 1) 'gui2 only', I'd say. 2a) code something like the 'accessiblity api' - allow code to get a list of 'interesting' things on screen (in form of WML table, for example). that list would contain some possible 'action points' that can be called from the game  
20110305 20:29:59< Crab_> 2b) harder but more fun -> find a way to feed mouse clicks and keys to the 'event queue' that is used from wesnoth, and code an api to translate from game screen elements to their description and coordinates.
20110305 20:30:03< eoc> okay, never worked with that for obvious reasons :) I'll try and edit it to be more convenient then
20110305 20:30:19< Ivanovic> eoc: the proposals that are listed at google are basically private for the org and the student
20110305 20:30:35< Ivanovic> eoc: from what is entered at google mainly the name and the project title are available in public
20110305 20:30:37< eoc> our admin mail@ is by the way shared right now with at least two people besides me
20110305 20:30:49< mordante> Ivanovic, "they are likely to be able to handle some students" I think the »likely« might put up a red flag at Google
20110305 20:30:53< Ivanovic> so it is fine to have contact data like a phone number as well as an email address listed at google
20110305 20:31:43< Crab_> mordante: what do you think of those ways ?
20110305 20:31:50< Ivanovic> mordante: right
20110305 20:31:59< eoc> good to know, I thought students were more cautious what they share :o
20110305 20:32:06< mordante> Crab_, one sec reading the wiki page
20110305 20:32:10< Crab_> ok
20110305 20:37:07< mordante> Crab_, with interesting things on the screen I assume you mean things on the gamemap?
20110305 20:37:33< Crab_> mordante: yes, those, too. hexes, menu buttons, right-click menu (if open), etc
20110305 20:38:03< Crab_> to interact with it, either user a direct callback or an indirect one (get x,y coords and click)
20110305 20:38:13< mordante> ok the gui2 engine know where things in gui2 are, but not where at screen
20110305 20:38:27< mordante> sending an event should be easy
20110305 20:38:45< Ivanovic> eoc: and you should really insist on getting an email address as well as a phone number
20110305 20:39:04< Crab_> mordante:  is there a way to calculate the location for the gui element (i.e., for a hex) ?
20110305 20:39:23< Ivanovic> eoc: you woN't get an email address to use from google, so without the email address contact the student (when the student is inactive) is, uhm, difficult
20110305 20:39:35< Ivanovic> and the phone number is some "emergency level backup"
20110305 20:39:41< mordante> you can push events directly in the SDL event queue which works in both gui1 and gui2 or a higher level for gui2 which allows to directly send a click
20110305 20:40:07< eoc> Ivanovic: that's as we have it right now: http://wiki.unknown-horizons.org/w/Template:Student_application_template_private#C:_Contact
20110305 20:40:23< mordante> gut the gamemap is gui1 so it's not really known to gui2 :-(
20110305 20:41:40< eoc> (given that I'll replace the email part with the tracker then)
20110305 20:42:35< boucman> if someone's interested the whold DT GSOC stuff is linked at https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/darktable/wiki/GSOC
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20110305 20:52:23< Crab_> eoc: what you definitely should have is the short actionlist like { do A; do B; join IRC } for new students, in big bold letters so (hopefully) it'll get noticed and they'll follow your process.
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20110305 20:53:24< eoc> ah, yep, I will add a soc-specific section to the general list we have right now
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20110305 21:32:55< AI0867> I'd like to get lg::wml_error to work in the editor too, but the chat messages it uses are implemented in game_display, so I'll have to move them to display
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20110305 21:50:41< CIA-52> ivanovic * r48767 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-lib/ga.po wesnoth-manpages/ga.po): updated Irish translation
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20110305 21:51:33< CIA-52> ivanovic * r48768 /trunk/po/wesnoth-manpages/ (21 files): make sure that the file format is set to UTF-8, some of those files (the only ones in all of the repo!) were set to ASCII instead, which caused issues with (at least) the Irish translation
20110305 21:51:39< CIA-52> fendrin * r48769 /trunk/src/tests/gui/test_gui2.cpp: Disabled the image_message class testing for real.
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20110305 22:02:16< iwontbecreative> mordante: What infos do you want on the page?
20110305 22:02:30< iwontbecreative> Name, string and stats from like in wiki?
20110305 22:03:04< boucman> for the terrain tool ?
20110305 22:03:19< iwontbecreative> Yes
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20110305 22:04:26< boucman> height adjust... it would be cool to have an image but I don't think that's easy to do. You should also mention if it's an alias of something
20110305 22:04:51< boucman> sort them by editor group wowuld be nice
20110305 22:05:30< iwontbecreative> boucman: It's just parsing terrain.cfg not terrain-graphics.cfg
20110305 22:05:45< boucman> yes... so no image
20110305 22:06:26< iwontbecreative> Not what I mean, can't get height and adjust
20110305 22:06:37< boucman> hmm, right
20110305 22:07:06< mordante> the unit_height_adjust is in the terrain.cfg
20110305 22:07:29< mordante> I've no real wishes for the page
20110305 22:08:31< boucman> iwontbecreative: you might want to poll zookeeper for ideas
20110305 22:09:06< iwontbecreative> Ok
20110305 22:09:17< iwontbecreative> wesbot: seen zookeeper
20110305 22:09:18< wesbot> iwontbecreative: Queried user last spoke 21h 52m ago.  zookeeper is currently here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev.
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20110305 22:10:02< iwontbecreative> zookeeper: What do you want the http://wiki.wesnoth.org/TerrainCodesWML list of terrain to look like?
20110305 22:10:14< iwontbecreative> What information should be displayed?
20110305 22:12:40< iwontbecreative> I'll be afk for ~30 min
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20110305 22:17:50< CIA-52> mordante * r48770 /trunk/CMakeLists.txt: Add OpenMP support to cmake.
20110305 22:17:52< mordante> boucman, finally found time for it ^
20110305 22:18:01< boucman> thx
20110305 22:21:11< zookeeper> iwontbecreative, hard to say, i think i'd always rather look in terrain.cfg than from such a page...
20110305 22:22:03< zookeeper> if you're making an automated tool then i guess you could just display everything
20110305 22:22:30< boucman> :)
20110305 22:22:51< zookeeper> except income_description* maybe, those would take a lot of space and wouldn't be useful anyway
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20110305 22:33:56< mordante> I'm off night
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20110305 22:38:12< iwontbecreative> zookeeper: It's intended as a quick reference for UMC people that don't always have svn, so displaying all file is not usefull
20110305 22:38:30< iwontbecreative> All info except income_description then?
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20110305 22:48:01< zookeeper> iwontbecreative, all but income_description*, yes. unless something obviously doesn't fit or isn't needed.
20110305 22:48:20< zookeeper> but that's just my take, and i don't really have a strong opinion anyway.
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20110305 23:14:41< fendrin> esr: ping
20110305 23:15:00< esr> fendrin: What's up?
20110305 23:15:40< fendrin> esr: I have the new recruit dialog working and polished to a degree where I want another opinion.
20110305 23:15:48< fendrin> esr: Would you give it a testrun?
20110305 23:16:03< esr> Sure.  How do I build it?
20110305 23:17:16< CIA-52> fendrin * r48771 /trunk/data/gui/default/ (widget/image_scaled.cfg window/recruit.cfg): Adjusted the position and layout of the recruit dialog.
20110305 23:17:22< fendrin> esr: Just make sure you got the latest commit and compile.
20110305 23:17:43< esr> OK.
20110305 23:18:23< esr> Updating.
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20110305 23:21:33< esr> Compiling.
20110305 23:29:43< CIA-52> fendrin * r48772 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/recruit.cfg: Adjusted the button placement.
20110305 23:29:59< fendrin> esr: Please do another svn update. You don't need to compile again, it's just new wml.
20110305 23:30:15< esr> OK
20110305 23:31:06< esr> Still compiling.  gcc++ kicks hell out of my machine.
20110305 23:31:26< iwontbecreative> zookeeper: Should I also display terrains that are said in code to be hacks ?
20110305 23:35:38< fendrin> esr: Note the position of the window. It is placed at that exact location to keep the same distance between the selection list and the unit stats in the old dialog. If that was a clever gui design the new one should work as well.
20110305 23:35:52< shadowmaster> g++, not gcc++
20110305 23:36:23< fendrin> esr: The only difference is that the stats had been to the left now they are to the right.
20110305 23:36:38< esr> Still compiling
20110305 23:39:16< Soliton> the new dialog is missing the double click a unit to recruit function.
20110305 23:39:41< fendrin> Soliton: Good point, I'll add it to the TODO.
20110305 23:41:03< fendrin> Soliton: What do you think about a single right click to recruit directly?
20110305 23:42:13< boucman> fendrin: double click as a shorcut for select+validate is more common
20110305 23:42:16< Soliton> sounds unintuitive.
20110305 23:42:29< boucman> right click is usually used for extra options, so that's what users would expect
20110305 23:42:41< fendrin> boucman: I would have implemented both.
20110305 23:42:59< boucman> ok... well I still think double click is enough
20110305 23:43:05< fendrin> okay
20110305 23:43:10< fendrin> less work for me :-)
20110305 23:43:13< boucman> :)
20110305 23:44:31< esr> Invalid WML found: Window builder: parsing resolution tip with empty 'id' field. Will become mandatory in 1.9.7. (4)
20110305 23:44:53< esr> This error was not fatal.  Continuing.
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20110305 23:50:11< esr> OK.  *Very* nice design but the implementation has a flaw.  The layout code doesn't work hard enough at trying to make sure the entire recruit popup is visible.As a resylt, the function buttons at the bottom were half-obscured on my despay until I resized it.
20110305 23:50:31< esr> s/despay/display/
20110305 23:50:51< fendrin> esr: That is right. I am going for the scaled down version of the portrait image to support lower resolutions.
20110305 23:51:12< esr> Smarter position assignment would solve this problem.
20110305 23:51:30< fendrin> Well not realy.
20110305 23:51:37< fendrin> I have to support down to 800x600
20110305 23:51:57< fendrin> the whole dialog has this size on it's own with the large portrait.
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20110305 23:52:14< fendrin> But the user still needs to see the his gold on the top bar and the unit on the sidebar.
20110305 23:52:29< esr> My maim menu pulldown is missing!
20110305 23:52:37< esr> s/maim/main/
20110305 23:52:55< fendrin> try to resize the window it should reapear.
20110305 23:53:02< esr> (Although a "maim menu" might be appropriate.)
20110305 23:53:10< fendrin> I guess there is another redraw call missing somewhere.
20110305 23:53:20< boucman> night all
20110305 23:53:25< fendrin> boucman: bye
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20110305 23:53:47< esr> It did, but that's a nasty little bug.
20110305 23:53:55< fendrin> Indeed.
20110305 23:54:04< fendrin> I will note it and have a look at it soon.
20110305 23:54:09< shadowmaster> esr: to me, those buttons are just plain missing
20110305 23:54:41< fendrin> shadowmaster: Your resolution is?
20110305 23:54:57< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.ai0867.net/recruit1.png
20110305 23:55:46< fendrin> shadowmaster: right, your resolution will be a clear case of the scaled down version.
20110305 23:56:32< esr> shadowmaster: Yeah, that looks like they're fully obscured rather than half.
20110305 23:58:42< iwontbecreative> Shouldn't all terrains in terrain.cfg have an id?
20110305 23:58:57< iwontbecreative> Because the "Basic Wooden Floor" hasn't
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