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20110309 00:05:47< TronPaul> hey Crab___, did you ever finish looking over my patch?
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20110309 00:06:16< Crab___> TronPaul: hi, I've seen the new version but haven't checked it yet. You've fixed that issue with the leaders ?
20110309 00:06:38< TronPaul> yea
20110309 00:06:52< TronPaul> I had been running the regular wesnoth binary
20110309 00:07:00< TronPaul> and not the debug one I'd been building
20110309 00:07:01< TronPaul> xP
20110309 00:07:12< Crab___> then I'll check it tomorrow and commit it if some quick testing won't find any other issues
20110309 00:07:23< TronPaul> alright thanks
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20110309 00:22:08< Nephro> Crab___, is there any text file that might help me understand the structure/architecture of the code? The source itself isn't documented too well
20110309 00:23:01< Crab___> Nephro: there are some docs on http://wiki.wesnoth.org/LuaWML
20110309 00:23:22< Crab___> Nephro: a good thing to do is to read the lua manual and try some simple out-of-wesnoth things.
20110309 00:23:26< Crab___> it helped me :)
20110309 00:24:21< Crab___> Nephro: also, you can try starting from void LuaKernel::initialize() and working from there..
20110309 00:25:04< Crab___> (and the constructor)
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20110309 01:08:13< nHarzilei> hi
20110309 01:08:36< nHarzilei> i asked about this some weeks ago, but maybe was misunderstood
20110309 01:09:26< nHarzilei> lots of times, the server (or whatever) does not detect when clients lose their connection. its not about clients detecting the lost connection, its about no new host getting selected
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20110309 01:10:20< nHarzilei> when the connection of the host lingers, after 3+ minutes there is still no transfer of the host control
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20110309 03:08:57< CIA-52> fendrin * r48826 /trunk/src/pathfind/ (teleport.cpp teleport.hpp): 
20110309 03:08:57< CIA-52> Fixed segmentation fault caused by wrong usage of the vconfig class in the teleport system.
20110309 03:08:57< CIA-52> Spotted by AI and Espreon.
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20110309 05:59:26-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.9.5 planned once the Khalifate are in | 189 bugs, 304 feature requests, 21 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20110309 06:50:44< CIA-52> shadowmaster * r48827 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/utils/abilities.cfg: 
20110309 06:50:45< CIA-52> LoW: fix multiple problems with translatability marks in utils/abilities.cfg
20110309 06:50:45< CIA-52> Also fixes a problem mentioned in bug #17601 regarding the ^ translation
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20110309 06:51:55< shadowmaster> fendrin: the elates_kalenz ability defined in that file uses "Elated" rather than "elates" at the start of its translatable names
20110309 06:51:59< shadowmaster> doesn't seem intentional to me
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20110309 09:57:48< Soliton> nHarzilei: if by "does not detect disconnects" you mean it takes more than 3 minutes then that is indeed how it works. if you make sure the host is registered he can kick his ghost upon reconnect solving your issue.
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20110309 10:49:36< CIA-52> fendrin * r48828 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/utils/abilities.cfg: LoW: Fixed Cleodil's abilities after a hint from shadowmaster.
20110309 10:51:14< fendrin> ^ shadowmaster: Thank you.
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20110309 12:42:25< CIA-52> fendrin * r48829 /trunk/src/pathfind/teleport.hpp: Documented the c++ interface to the [tunnel] feature.
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20110309 12:52:39< fendrin> What wiki syntax is to be used to format source code? I tried [code]  [/code] without success.
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20110309 13:18:04< fendrin> hi zookeeper
20110309 13:23:18< zookeeper> hello
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20110309 13:45:30< fendrin> Threads regarding Multiplayer Campaigns, where do they belong on the forum?
20110309 13:46:20< fendrin> shadowmaster, gambit^
20110309 13:49:02< timotei21> fendrin: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=15 ?
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20110309 13:54:11< fendrin> hi timotei21
20110309 13:59:03< nHarzilei> Soliton: well, that is a bit impractical i guess. host can get transferred to unregistered users as well, and i think there is no way to choose the person it gets transferred to
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20110309 14:00:06< nHarzilei> Soliton: isn't there some constant that can be tweaked so ghosted users can get detected faster?
20110309 14:00:32< nHarzilei> Soliton: or is that too low level for wesnothd to handle?
20110309 14:01:49< timotei21> hi fendrin 
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20110309 14:02:30< Soliton> nHarzilei: we'd have to tweak the tcp stack on wesnoth.org where several other services are running as well...
20110309 14:03:38< Soliton> the host can only get transferred to unregistered users if such are in the game. ;-)
20110309 14:04:06< Soliton> btw, there is always the possibility to save and reload.
20110309 14:05:31< Soliton> fendrin: depends on what they're about. LUA/WML help, story line, balance etc.
20110309 14:05:42< nHarzilei> Soliton: yeah. i did this one of the last time but it is very likely more people will drop out during that ;)
20110309 14:07:16< nHarzilei> Soliton: usually such a disconnect only ends the game with some side agreeing that the other side was winning (this was mostly 2v2 or 3v3 where it really sucked to play ages without decent closure ;)
20110309 14:07:26< fendrin> Soliton: If I did understand the requester, vultraz, right it is about the main development thread of the campaign.  
20110309 14:07:55< vultraz> yes
20110309 14:09:07< fendrin> Legend of Wesmere which is both, a single and a multiplayer campaign has spammed all over the forum. But I guess having so much threads here and there for one campaign isn't a good solution.
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20110309 14:11:48< Soliton> well, either Multiplayer or Scenario & Campaign Development. not sure it matters much which of those.
20110309 14:17:10< nHarzilei> Soliton: hmm... as i read it those options can be changed per socket
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20110309 14:59:09< timotei21> fendrin: well, I see there are already 2 subforms for LoW. Why not use those?
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20110309 15:00:07 * Nephro has finally compiled wesnoth :)
20110309 15:00:27< Nephro> windows fails, virtual machine with linux wins
20110309 15:00:37< fendrin> :-)
20110309 15:01:14< fendrin> timotei21: Use for the what?
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20110309 15:01:46< timotei21> Nephro: congrats
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20110309 15:02:50< Nephro> The linux way of compiling is fairly easy(well, at least the debian one)
20110309 15:04:59< Nephro> Someone should fix the compilation instructions for debian. "apt-get build-dep wesnoth" works fine, but the source will not compile without getting boost explicitly by "apt-get install libboost-dev-all"
20110309 15:05:15< Nephro> or all-dev dunno
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20110309 15:10:26< timotei21> Nephro: you can modify/update the wiki yourself too :)
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20110309 15:16:10< Gambit> Nephro: I think that step is in there
20110309 15:16:40< Gambit> Yes it is.
20110309 15:16:45< Gambit> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CompilingWesnoth
20110309 15:17:02< Gambit> edit->find "On all linux distributions that are based on Debian"
20110309 15:17:24< Gambit> And then below that "To make sure Wesnoth 1.8 builds you might need these:"
20110309 15:24:06< Soliton> nHarzilei: patches welcome.
20110309 15:24:35< stikonas> hmm, i've just received GCI T-shirt, it seems that they are sent to mentors too :)
20110309 15:27:39< fendrin> I have also received it 5 minutes ago.
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20110309 15:54:34< timotei> wow nice
20110309 16:04:36< stikonas> what is nice?
20110309 16:04:46< stikonas> GCI t-shirts?
20110309 16:06:00< timotei> stikonas: yes
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20110309 16:15:02< fendrin> timotei: I don't want mine.
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20110309 16:18:27< timotei> fendrin: why?
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20110309 16:19:30< fendrin> timotei: I don't like to make advertisement for google.
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20110309 16:20:19< Gambit> But Google is awesome. :(
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20110309 16:58:15< timotei> Gambit: not really :P
20110309 16:58:27< Gambit> Yes huh.
20110309 16:58:38< Gambit> No take backsies.
20110309 17:02:46< CIA-52> fendrin * r48830 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/01_The_Uprooting.cfg: LoW 01: Made the story title cursiv like Espreon suggested.
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20110309 17:10:16< mordante> servus
20110309 17:11:19< loonycyborg> Non Serviam!
20110309 17:14:14< mordante> Crendgrim do you have a savegame for bug 17877? makes testing it easier, will probably have a look tomorrow
20110309 17:14:37< Crendgrim> mordante: I can get one. Seems to happen always
20110309 17:14:55< Crendgrim> Should I upload it at gna?
20110309 17:15:26< mordante> really odd expecially also dialogs failing
20110309 17:15:31< mordante> yes please
20110309 17:15:52< Crendgrim> everything's failing :p
20110309 17:16:00< Crendgrim> What do you need? Only the first few turns?
20110309 17:16:43< mordante> but the dialogs at the start of the game when the gamemap is shown are they there?
20110309 17:17:01< Crendgrim> they are... he, that's interesting..
20110309 17:17:41< mordante> then a savegame would be nice
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20110309 17:19:41< Crendgrim> recruiting was a bad idea - that causes the game to return to the main menu. :/ 
20110309 17:20:13< mordante> oke something seems to be really wrong then 
20110309 17:20:29< Crendgrim> no.. Wesnoth crashed...
20110309 17:20:35< Crendgrim> :(
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20110309 17:24:49< Crendgrim> mordante: "Save game" or "Save replay"?
20110309 17:25:29< mordante> Save game
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20110309 17:27:41< Ivanovic> fendrin: in wiki you can either prepend every line with a space or use the <source type="no idea what"></source> block
20110309 17:27:44< Ivanovic> hi, btw
20110309 17:28:00< fendrin> hi
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20110309 17:29:08< mordante> Ivanovic, you got my email?
20110309 17:29:36< Crendgrim> mordante: Done
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20110309 17:29:49< mordante> thanks Crendgrim 
20110309 17:30:50< Ivanovic> mordante: yes, i got the mail
20110309 17:31:10< Ivanovic> and yeah, tomorrow in the evening is the latest time that i am (somehow) confident with submitting the proposal to google
20110309 17:32:33< mordante> Ivanovic, what do you think is the shape at the moment with Crab_'s proposals
20110309 17:32:34< mordante> ?
20110309 17:33:10< Ivanovic> no idea
20110309 17:33:36< Ivanovic> what he wrote last evening regarding his plans of what could/should be done on a per task level sounded great
20110309 17:34:13< mordante> ok 
20110309 17:34:34< mordante> I just read over his proposals and they look fine to me, made some minor modifications
20110309 17:34:36< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/TevqkUad
20110309 17:34:44< Ivanovic> that was the talk yesterday
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20110309 17:36:36< mordante> ok
20110309 17:37:09< mordante> I went over the http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SoC_Information_for_Google page and apart from the two points I mentioned I think it looks ok
20110309 17:37:37< mordante> unless we want to rewrite it completely
20110309 17:38:10< mordante> but it looks Crab_ also wants to update the mentor section
20110309 17:38:23< Ivanovic> mordante: Espreon mentioned that he wanted to completely rewrite it, but he thinks that there ain't the time to do so over the next 24h so that it will be in shape
20110309 17:38:35< mordante> which only leaves the details of last year
20110309 17:38:38< Ivanovic> basically resuling in this being his plan once the application time is over
20110309 17:39:06< mordante> ok would be nice for next year, but I also think it's too late for this year
20110309 17:39:57< mordante> oh I see somebody (Crab_) already wrote something about last year
20110309 17:44:36< mordante> I'm off now, won't be around tonight
20110309 17:46:20< mordante> but I think the GSoC application is getting in a good shape :-)
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20110309 18:18:19< esr> zookeeper: You there?
20110309 18:19:48< zookeeper> esr, briefly
20110309 18:19:50< zookeeper> what's up?
20110309 18:21:18< esr> Espreon passed on an FR from younthat I'm conflixted about.  wmllint to warn if [gold] and [*shroud] tag pairs don't have side=.
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20110309 18:22:39< esr> I see your point, but one of wmllint's design goals is to keep silent about usages that are quite likely to be intentional, avoiding sprious warnings that may drown out real error messages.
20110309 18:22:51< zookeeper> well, yeah, hmm...
20110309 18:23:59< zookeeper> i'd think it's bad form and pretty rare to use those without a side= key, so maybe wmllint doesn't need that check. we should still check mainline though.
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20110309 20:27:35< grzywacz> !seen Crab
20110309 20:27:38< grzywacz> erm
20110309 20:27:41< grzywacz> wesbot, seen Crab
20110309 20:27:41< wesbot> grzywacz: Sorry, I don't know of Crab.
20110309 20:27:43< grzywacz> wesbot, seen Crab_
20110309 20:27:44< wesbot> grzywacz: The person with the nick Crab_ 2d 20h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
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20110309 20:28:03< Nephro> grzywacz, I think he wsa here yesterday and had much more underscores
20110309 20:28:26< grzywacz> wesbot, seen Crab__
20110309 20:28:26< wesbot> grzywacz: Sorry, I don't know of Crab__.
20110309 20:28:28< grzywacz> wesbot, seen Crab___
20110309 20:28:29< wesbot> grzywacz: The person with the nick Crab___ last spoke 20h 3m ago.  19h 42m ago they left with the message: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
20110309 20:28:37< grzywacz> Nephro, good point :P
20110309 20:33:29< Sirp__> wesbot: seen Crab_* perhaps? :)
20110309 20:34:01< grzywacz> What's with this underscoremania anyway?
20110309 20:34:21< Sirp__> well I do it because I log in from multiple places
20110309 20:35:04< Sirp__> also some guy keeps 'stealing' my nick, and sometimes rather than ghost them I just let my client automatically add underscores
20110309 20:35:11< Sirp__> not sure what Crab's excuse is though. :p
20110309 20:35:29< Sirp__> oh, sorry, that should be "Crab__'s excuse". ;)
20110309 20:35:31< shadowmaster> you could use nickserv RELEASE instead so they get a clue
20110309 20:35:47< Sirp__> what does nickserv release do ?
20110309 20:36:07< Sirp__> releases the horrible scourge of nickserv upon them?
20110309 20:36:10< shadowmaster> it renames the current user of the target nick to Guest#####
20110309 20:36:18< shadowmaster> then you use RELEASE again to be able to nick back to that nick
20110309 20:36:20< Sirp__> ahhh
20110309 20:36:36< Sirp__> okay. Will have to do that. :)
20110309 20:36:46< shadowmaster> the ENFORCE flag can be set upon your account to forbid unathorized use of your nick too, automatically (/msg nickserv help set enforce)
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20110309 20:37:20< Sirp__> though I already talked to them about it, they apologized and said it was because they used my nick on another network and their client was configured to use the nick on all networks.
20110309 20:37:30< Sirp__> hi noy_
20110309 20:37:35< noy_> hey
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20110309 20:38:26< Crab___> grzywacz: hello
20110309 20:39:15< TronPaul> time for System Programming (C) midterm
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20110309 20:47:01< grzywacz> Crab___, amazing :)
20110309 20:47:19< Crab___> grzywacz: :)
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20110309 20:48:28< grzywacz> TronPaul, fun?
20110309 20:48:36< grzywacz> noy, :)
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20110309 20:48:44< noy> ?
20110309 20:48:52< grzywacz> Saying hi.
20110309 20:48:56< noy> ahh, hey
20110309 20:49:06< deekay> hey Crab___, what's with chatlog window? ;p
20110309 20:49:41< Crab___> short version: '/me is too lazy/buzy to commit it'.
20110309 20:49:53< Crab___> I'll try to find some time
20110309 20:50:11< Crab___> the only thing that is required there is some pagination stuff, which is easy
20110309 20:50:24< Crab___> the rest was more-or-less working at brussels
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20110309 20:56:47< deekay> Crab___: Great :) Is it for 1.9 or 1.8 as well?
20110309 20:57:02< Crab___> 1.8, to be backported to 1.9 later
20110309 20:57:17< deekay> Crab___: Ok, would be gtreat to have it in 1.8.6
20110309 20:57:25< Crab___> yes, that was the plan
20110309 20:58:41< deekay> Great! :)
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20110309 21:13:43< grzywacz> When is 1.8.6 going out anyway?
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20110309 21:18:12< Crab___> Ivanovic: ok, looked on my gsoc tasks and edited a bit. Also,  fendrin helped to add more info to one of them. So I'd say they are more-or-less ok for now.
20110309 21:18:37< Ivanovic> grzywacz: waiting for deekay with 1.8.6
20110309 21:18:49< Ivanovic> grzywacz: so ask for his time plans
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20110309 21:19:21< deekay> My time plan is to code it asap, thing is how much time Crab___ needs to put his code in svn.
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20110309 21:28:30< Crab___> maybe on this weekend
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20110309 21:33:47< boucman> hey all
20110309 21:35:31< grzywacz> hi boucman 
20110309 21:36:04< boucman> hey grzywacz
20110309 21:37:23< Crab___> hi, boucman
20110309 21:41:21< boucman> loonycyborg: around ?
20110309 21:41:44< loonycyborg> Yes.
20110309 21:42:08< boucman> you're our wiki expert, IIRC
20110309 21:42:32< loonycyborg> Nope.
20110309 21:42:49< boucman> darn
20110309 21:42:49< boucman> ok
20110309 21:43:11< loonycyborg> Wasn't that Crab___? :P
20110309 21:43:29< grzywacz> Or shadowmaster?
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20110309 21:46:40< Crab___> boucman: I'm the mediawiki admin atm
20110309 21:46:47< TronPaul> and back
20110309 21:47:16< boucman> Crab___: do you have any idea why my wiki page (linked in wesnoth mentor) doesn't appear in the idea page ?
20110309 21:47:52< Ivanovic> boucman: Crab___ can't see the link since he ain't in the mentor chan!
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20110309 21:48:13< boucman> oh, gimme a sec
20110309 21:48:19< boucman> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SoC_Ideas_Simple_Content_Manager
20110309 21:49:21< Crab___> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas#Create_a_simple_content_manager_frontend_for_non-technical_users  ?
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20110309 21:49:59< Crab___> boucman: anything wrong ?
20110309 21:50:43< boucman> duh
20110309 21:50:48< boucman> ok, i'm officially stupid
20110309 21:52:36< Crab___> no, you've just doublechecking :)
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20110309 22:38:40< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20110309 22:49:14< TronPaul> hello
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