--- Log opened Wed Mar 09 00:00:01 2011
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20110309 01:34:51< I3arrage> Sup.
20110309 01:36:08< I3arrage> Andrew wants me to notice that shadowmaster took Gambit's title.
20110309 01:36:09< I3arrage> Peace.
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20110309 01:36:20< Gambit> shadowmaster: I win.
20110309 01:36:59< Gambit> shadowmaster: You didn't say another user couldn't start an advertising campaign.
20110309 01:37:06< Gambit> Without my knowledge or consent mind you!
20110309 01:37:19< Betacrow> ^_^
20110309 01:37:34< shadowmaster> Gambit: that doesn't count.
20110309 01:37:41< Gambit> He did it of his own behest.
20110309 01:38:11< shadowmaster> Simply because it's factually incorrect. Notice he said "shadowmaster took Gambit's title". That's not actually true. You took down your own title by switching your primary group membership in response to a joke of mine.
20110309 01:38:29< Gambit> Betacrow: Well I appreciate you doing that for me.
20110309 01:38:39< Gambit> Unfortunately shadowmaster decided to change his own rules on you.
20110309 01:38:53< Betacrow> Well on the record I didn't do it, but off the record you're welcome.
20110309 01:39:05< Gambit> Who's Andrew then?
20110309 01:39:06< Gambit> 0_0
20110309 01:39:11< Betacrow> and you can pay us back by updating TEB.
20110309 01:39:13< Betacrow> Nah it was me.
20110309 01:39:35< shadowmaster> Gambit: I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
20110309 01:39:40< Gambit> shadowmaster: And I've heard it both ways.
20110309 01:39:45< Gambit> This deal is getting worse all the time.
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20110309 17:27:47< Ivanovic> hi
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20110309 20:36:44 * dougmencken building wesnoth v1.9.4
20110309 20:36:54< dougmencken> build directory size: ~598 MiB << alsmost as huge as gcc :)
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20110309 20:38:29< dougmencken> well, # pwd && du |newline| /usr/share/wesnoth/data/core/music |newline| 136152	.#:)
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20110309 20:52:49< grzywacz> yeah, music does take a lot of space
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20110309 20:53:30< dougmencken> how to make it to install to /usr not to usr/local (I'm very unfam. with cmake, sorry)
20110309 20:53:41< grzywacz> Set prefix to /usr
20110309 20:53:55< dougmencken> grzywacz: export PREFIX?
20110309 20:53:57< grzywacz> --prefix with autotools, prefix= with scons IIRC, cmake has some easy to edit settings too
20110309 20:54:13< grzywacz> --prefix=/usr with autotools, that is
20110309 20:54:39< dougmencken> autoreconf -vi to get ./configure?
20110309 20:54:52< dougmencken> autoreconf: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required
20110309 20:54:58< grzywacz> autoreconf?
20110309 20:55:10< dougmencken> part of autotools :)
20110309 20:55:32< grzywacz> ./autogen.sh
20110309 20:55:36< grzywacz> ./configure --whatever
20110309 20:56:00< dougmencken> grzywacz: there's no ./configure in the tarball from official site
20110309 20:56:10< grzywacz> dougmencken, ./autogen.sh first
20110309 20:56:18< grzywacz> or maybe autotools support has been removed :P
20110309 20:56:32< dougmencken> $ pwd && ./autogen.sh
20110309 20:56:33< dougmencken> /home/username/build-farm/_BIGSYSTEM/wesnoth-v1.9.4.builddir
20110309 20:56:33< dougmencken> bash: ./autogen.sh: No such file or directory
20110309 20:56:46< dougmencken> looks like removed
20110309 20:56:52< grzywacz> scons or cmake then
20110309 20:57:15< grzywacz> dougmencken, http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CompilingWesnoth
20110309 20:57:18< dougmencken> cmake --prefix=/usr ?
20110309 20:58:17< dougmencken> grzywacz: I do have INSTALL, this page is nothing more
20110309 20:58:30< dougmencken> neither has anything about --prefix
20110309 20:58:34< grzywacz> ok, then read about the cmake process, I don't remember it off the top of my head
20110309 20:59:12< dougmencken> oh: cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ./
20110309 20:59:37< dougmencken> time to update your INSTALL :)
20110309 21:00:22< grzywacz> It's been updated in SVN.
20110309 21:02:03< dougmencken> sorry, it's enough svns for me, I tried gcc 4.6.0 :) nice thing, <cstddef>, -Wunused-but-set-variable :)
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20110309 21:05:27< dougmencken> wow, colored output
20110309 21:06:03< dougmencken> how long will it take to finish building (in SBUs?)
20110309 21:09:19< grzywacz> No clue
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20110309 21:09:45< dougmencken> grzywacz: never built wesnoth? I doubt so
20110309 21:10:00< grzywacz> Never calculated it in SBUs.
20110309 21:10:17< grzywacz> Also, I rarely build from clean state.
20110309 21:10:20< dougmencken> grzywacz: okay, in times of building kernel with defconfig
20110309 21:10:31< grzywacz> I don't build kernels with defconfig.
20110309 21:10:33< grzywacz> :)
20110309 21:10:38< dougmencken> I'm not 466MHz machine 
20110309 21:10:46< dougmencken> s/not/on/
20110309 21:10:56< grzywacz> Sounds painful then.
20110309 21:11:27< grzywacz> I think it's ~5 minutes on my 3-core 2.6GHz AMD.
20110309 21:11:49< dougmencken> so it's about 0.5 times as kernel, okay
20110309 21:12:07< grzywacz> I think kernel builds faster.
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20110309 21:15:41< dougmencken> what was the reason to abandon autotools?
20110309 21:16:03< dougmencken> they are faster imho; still on "[  0%] mo-update [wesnoth-test-pt]: Creating mo file." stage
20110309 21:17:35< grzywacz> Hard to maintain and error-prone.
20110309 21:20:29< dougmencken> grzywacz: heh, just tell the truth: you do prefer windows compatibility over building speed ;)
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20110309 21:24:39< dougmencken> by the way, are you interested in binaries for linux-powerpc?
20110309 21:28:19< grzywacz> I think the appropriate distributions would be handling this by themselves.
20110309 21:28:43< dougmencken> grzywacz: there are almost *no* distros supporting powerpc now
20110309 21:28:54< dougmencken> grzywacz: and you have bins for linux-x86
20110309 21:29:53< dougmencken> we just left with building stuff by ourselves
20110309 21:30:01< Mussious> dougmencken, I think that debian supports PPC
20110309 21:30:16< dougmencken> yep, Debian does
20110309 21:30:39< dougmencken> and gentoo, and crux, and finnix -- nothing more
20110309 21:31:29< Mussious> Ubuntu doesn't? It's based on debian.
20110309 21:31:54< dougmencken> ubuntu ppc is "unofficial" since 6.04
20110309 21:32:40 * dougmencken never get any ubuntu to work, they do like videcards' acceleration, so I'm always stuck with black screen
20110309 21:33:18< dougmencken> thanks god there're games which are not
20110309 21:35:20< grzywacz> compiz is entirely optional afaik
20110309 21:35:40< dougmencken> ah, sorry, just visited http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothBinariesLinux << you're just suggesting how to use package managers, not providing bins
20110309 21:36:38< dougmencken> grzywacz: compiz is avail only with working 3d-acceleration; but they do patch kernel to remove framebuffer drivers (which is the only hope)
20110309 21:37:07< dougmencken> s/patch/configure/
20110309 21:37:25< grzywacz> Yes, but you can still use metacity or whatever other manager with gnome.
20110309 21:37:27< dougmencken> (they don't patch anything actually)
20110309 21:37:43< dougmencken> grzywacz: I'm now on metacity
20110309 21:38:25< dougmencken> [ 79%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/wesnoth-game.dir/soundsource.cpp.o << current progress
20110309 21:38:52< grzywacz> Looks healthy.
20110309 21:39:18< dougmencken> promising :)
20110309 21:39:57< dougmencken> I hope make install will accept DESTDIR for packaging
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20110309 21:49:27< dougmencken> are your os x bins -- "MacOSX (316.9MB)" -- universal?
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20110309 21:50:33< dougmencken> you don't mention the platform
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20110309 21:51:59< dougmencken> (i.e. "intel-only", "poweprc-only", "universal binary" -- for os x it does matter)
20110309 21:53:39< grzywacz> no clue
20110309 21:53:49< aber> Wesnoth: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
20110309 21:53:49< aber> Wesnoth (for architecture ppc):	Mach-O executable ppc
20110309 21:53:49< aber> Wesnoth (for architecture i386):	Mach-O executable i386
20110309 21:54:00< dougmencken> cool then
20110309 21:54:44 * dougmencken recalls bug report to globulation team ;)
20110309 21:57:21 * dougmencken $ ogg123 the_city_falls.ogg
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20110309 22:34:30< dougmencken> okay, then: may I publish linux-powerpc binaries on a public site? sources are vanilla ones
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20110309 22:38:36< [Relic]> Hello :)
20110309 22:38:48< dougmencken> hi
20110309 22:39:26< [Relic]> :)
20110309 22:40:01< dougmencken> [Relic]: your cpu architecture?
20110309 22:40:26< [Relic]> some dude at intel
20110309 22:40:40< dougmencken> [Relic]: you're in :)
20110309 22:41:07< [Relic]> would like a 6 core amd one
20110309 22:41:17< [Relic]> or a 4x12 core one
20110309 22:41:38< dougmencken> [Relic]: and wesnoth isn't so fast, yeah?
20110309 22:42:08< [Relic]> never really had a problem with speed, haven't compiled it lately though
20110309 22:42:21< [Relic]> but I have a quad core so nothing is really pokey
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20110309 23:00:57< dougmencken> this track -- siege_of_laurelmor.ogg -- is great too
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20110309 23:28:07< dougmencken> mom! I want this new version! [ 90%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/wesnoth.dir/gui/auxiliary/widget_definition/vertical_scrollbar.cpp.o
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