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I have introduced some major modifications. http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SoC2011_Automagic 20110404 00:41:49< Crab_> boucman, mordante ^ 20110404 00:45:10-!- Xenmen [~David@d173-183-84-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 00:45:44-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110404 00:45:45-!- Max20010 [~chatzilla@d91-128-237-29.cust.tele2.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 00:48:36-!- AI0867 is now known as idiots 20110404 00:48:39-!- idiots is now known as AI0867 20110404 00:50:44-!- PolarPanda [~pete@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 00:51:13-!- PolarPanda [~pete@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 00:55:27-!- Afan [~IceChat77@c-76-29-51-121.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 00:57:12< tschmitz> It seems that when I edit the source code and debug, my changes aren't showing up in the game 20110404 00:57:12-!- Afan [~IceChat77@c-76-29-51-121.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 00:59:27-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: Google Summer of Code: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas | 193 bugs, 306 feature requests, 19 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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Which build system are you using? 20110404 04:51:45< tschmitz> VC9? 20110404 04:51:56< Espreon> Oh, can't help you there. 20110404 04:52:04-!- Greywhind [~Greywhind@138.16.23.112] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 04:52:11< tschmitz> Hah, thanks anyway 20110404 04:52:22-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2a52f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 04:52:22-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2a52f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20110404 04:52:22-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 04:52:38< Espreon> Are you sure you're actually recompiling the source code? And are you sure the binary's going in the same place? 20110404 04:53:32< tschmitz> I can find a wesnoth.exe file that was created when I did the build 20110404 04:54:03< tschmitz> as I recall, there was a dialog the first time I tried to run it asking me to locate that executable ... 20110404 04:54:13< tschmitz> I haven't seen it since 20110404 04:54:38< tschmitz> As I recall, I told it the correct directory/filename 20110404 04:54:50< tschmitz> but perhaps I'll see if I can track that down and make sure ... 20110404 04:55:06< Espreon> Perhaps you should try to recompile once more. 20110404 04:55:13< Espreon> ... see what happens. 20110404 04:55:20-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Elvish_Pillager, MGoods|RangerM, dansan, gsoc_trichu, akzfowl, fstltna 20110404 04:55:21< 14WAA1NP2> Time for a small public service announcement 20110404 04:55:23< 14WAA1NP2> To all gsoc students: 20110404 04:55:27< 14WAA1NP2> Make sure you commit your proposal at google soon, don't wait until the latest moment just to discover your internet connection is down 20110404 04:55:28-!- Netsplit over, joins: gsoc_trichu 20110404 04:55:30< 14WAA1NP2> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/student/google/gsoc2011?org=wesnoth 20110404 04:55:32< 14WAA1NP2> You need to do this until Apr 8th, 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) 20110404 04:55:33< 14WAA1NP2> you can still improve afterwards, but how wonderful your proposal is, if not in google's database we can't accept it 20110404 04:55:35< 14WAA1NP2> You have been warned. 20110404 04:55:36< 14WAA1NP2> Submit patches and prototypes for review, so we'll see how you work. 20110404 04:55:37< 14WAA1NP2> Join the IRC discussions. 20110404 04:56:12-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20110404 04:56:26-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20110404 04:56:56-!- MGoods|RangerM [~kvirc@84.45.236.142] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 04:56:57< tschmitz> I'm under the impression that I've been recompiling for most of the day today ... 20110404 04:57:53< tschmitz> If anyone here uses VC9 to build, I might want to ask about ... the directory structure and what it should look like 20110404 05:00:06-!- fstltna [~fstltna@74.63.219.251] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 05:00:18-!- akzfowl [~akzfowl@1.186.0.96] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 05:01:00-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Soliton, Vorpal, iwaim__, knotwork 20110404 05:01:40-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 05:01:40-!- dansan [~daniel@99-70-244-137.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 05:01:46-!- Netsplit over, joins: Soliton, Vorpal, knotwork, iwaim__ 20110404 05:04:51< Espreon> Try messing up the code to the point where it can't be compiled, and try again. See what happens. 20110404 05:10:12-!- gsoc_trichu [~Tri@c-98-196-106-93.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 05:17:02-!- monochromatic [~elvish_so@pool-173-59-70-117.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving, I'll see you later!] 20110404 05:26:08-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-10-19.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20110404 05:28:01-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 05:28:01-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: Google Summer of Code: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas | 193 bugs, 306 feature requests, 19 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20110404 05:28:01-!- Topic set by wesbot [~wesbot@wesnoth/bot/wesbot] [Mon Apr 4 00:59:47 2011] 20110404 05:28:01[Users #wesnoth-dev] 20110404 05:28:01[ 14WAA1NP2 ] [ crimson_penguin] [ Espreon ] [ iwaim_ ] [ Octalot ] [ Tigge ] 20110404 05:28:01[ ABCD ] [ dansan ] [ esr ] [ iwaim__ ] [ Rhonda ] [ tschmitz] 20110404 05:28:01[ AI0867 ] [ dariuss ] [ ettin_ ] [ janebot ] [ rigved ] [ Upthorn ] 20110404 05:28:01[ akzfowl ] [ dayoung ] [ fendrin ] [ knotwork ] [ Seiyria_ ] [ vcap ] 20110404 05:28:01[ ancestral ] [ dayoung_ ] [ fstltna ] [ koan ] [ shadowm_laptop] [ Vorpal ] 20110404 05:28:01[ ancestral_] [ eleazzaar ] [ Gambit ] [ lobby ] [ shadowmaster ] [ wesbot ] 20110404 05:28:01[ apoi ] [ elias_ ] [ Greywhind] [ LordNasty ] [ shikadibot ] 20110404 05:28:01[ chris| ] [ Elvish_Pillager] [ Ingmar_ ] [ Max20010 ] [ Sirp_ ] 20110404 05:28:01[ CIA-89 ] [ epyon ] [ isaac ] [ mcsmash ] [ Smar ] 20110404 05:28:01[ clanehin ] [ erl ] [ Ivanovic ] [ MGoods|RangerM] [ Soliton ] 20110404 05:28:01-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 56 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 56 normal] 20110404 05:28:01!gibson.freenode.net [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 20110404 05:28:09-!- ancestral_ [~ancestral@71-34-10-19.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20110404 05:28:11-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 06:28:41 2009 20110404 05:28:17-!- ancestral_ [~ancestral@71-34-10-19.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 05:28:28-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110404 05:28:29-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 05:29:19-!- chris|| [~Chris@web.planet-narg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 05:29:20-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 89 secs 20110404 05:31:49< tschmitz> Yeah it won't compile if I remove the contents of a file, for example 20110404 05:32:12< tschmitz> I tried removing the contents of several methods in that file and the game still played properly, so 20110404 05:32:39-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-10-19.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20110404 05:32:40-!- chris| [~Chris@web.planet-narg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20110404 05:32:41-!- fstltna [~fstltna@74.63.219.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20110404 05:32:43-!- chris|| is now known as chris| 20110404 05:32:44-!- ancestral_ is now known as ancestral 20110404 05:33:07-!- fstltna [~fstltna@74.63.219.251] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 05:33:11< Espreon> tschmitz: What exactly are you trying to accomplish? 20110404 05:34:03< tschmitz> Espreon: I've submitted a proposal for the whiteboard improvements, so I've been messing with those files 20110404 05:34:06< tschmitz> ever so slightly 20110404 05:34:17< tschmitz> but eventually I realized that nothing was actually changing when I made changes 20110404 05:34:26< Espreon> OK. What should your changes be doing? 20110404 05:34:47< tschmitz> Well the first thing I tried was 20110404 05:35:12< tschmitz> Gabba has the whiteboard say a message on the chat when you start it up, so I edited the string to say "Tommy was here" at the end of it 20110404 05:36:03< tschmitz> I also tried the statement assert(false); and got no assertion failure on that line 20110404 05:36:28< Espreon> Try grepping for the string you're trying to edit. Maybe it exists in multiple places. 20110404 05:36:37< tschmitz> I'll do that 20110404 05:37:23< Upthorn> I've had similar occurences in the past 20110404 05:37:35< Upthorn> I think 95% of the time the cause was 20110404 05:37:45< Upthorn> that the build wasn't going where I thought it was 20110404 05:37:52< Upthorn> so I was building new versions and building new versions 20110404 05:37:58< Upthorn> and running the old one over and over to test 20110404 05:39:05< tschmitz> Yeah that's the only thing I can think would be going on 20110404 05:39:52< Upthorn> if you're on linux, you might need to doublecheck the permissions on your wesnoth binary, to make sure the linker actually has permission to write to it 20110404 05:45:04< tschmitz> I'm on Windows and I can see a wesnoth.exe with a timestamp that suggests it was just made 20110404 05:45:20< tschmitz> Still no luck quite yet 20110404 05:45:33< tschmitz> I wonder how to specify the .exe to use for debugging in VC9 ... 20110404 05:45:40< Espreon> Move/delete the binary; recompile; see what happens. 20110404 05:45:54< tschmitz> it presented me with a dialog for that purpose the first time I debugged, but it hasn't since then 20110404 05:46:35< Upthorn> tschmitz: the exe for debugging is the output of the current build configuration 20110404 05:46:36< tschmitz> and yeah I tried deleting the .exe; it was created again. I am supposing that although it's creating the binary properly, it's running an old one somewhere when I tell it to debug ... 20110404 05:46:56< tschmitz> Well when I built the first time, it asked me to specify the .exe to use 20110404 05:47:18< Upthorn> it sounds like your visual studio environment is configured strangely 20110404 05:47:20-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20110404 05:47:22< tschmitz> so I told it wesnoth.exe somewhere, and ideally I'd verify that I told it the right location, except that I can't figure out how to do that ... 20110404 05:47:33< Upthorn> are you using the /projects/vc9/wesnoth.sln 20110404 05:47:33< tschmitz> well I recently installed it specially for Wesnoth 20110404 05:56:08< Upthorn> or are you using one made from cmake? 20110404 05:56:08< tschmitz> I was before, but then I switched to wesnoth/Project.sln as per the guide 20110404 05:56:08< tschmitz> Oh good, I deleted an old wesnoth.exe and now it says "Cannot find the file specified" 20110404 05:56:08< tschmitz> that seems to indicate that I'm on the right track 20110404 05:56:08< tschmitz> Now how to change what file it looks for ... 20110404 05:56:09< CIA-89> ai0867 * r49101 /branches/editor/src/ (CMakeLists.txt SConscript editor/editor_controller.cpp): Fix some build errors that seem to be the result of a bad merge. Not done yet. =/ 20110404 05:56:29< Upthorn> huh, I seem to have lost my cmake.exe and related bat files 20110404 05:58:17< tschmitz> This is the dialog that it gave me the first time I tried to debug ... http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/44t4z67c(v=VS.90).aspx 20110404 05:58:37< tschmitz> it claims I can change the setting later, but ... 20110404 06:00:33< tschmitz> Oh hm, here we go; maybe I should try the ALL_BUILD project properties? 20110404 06:01:16< tschmitz> Oh thank goodness. "Tommy was here." 20110404 06:01:27< tschmitz> Well that was somewhat of a humbling experience 20110404 06:05:30-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20110404 06:05:39-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 06:06:28-!- dansan_ [~daniel@99-70-244-137.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 06:06:59-!- knotwork_ [~markm@142.177.235.164] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 06:06:59-!- knotwork_ [~markm@142.177.235.164] has quit [Changing host] 20110404 06:06:59-!- knotwork_ [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 06:09:03-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Vorpal, dansan, knotwork, iwaim__ 20110404 06:14:32-!- Netsplit over, joins: Vorpal, iwaim__ 20110404 06:16:09-!- hadleyt [~hadleyt@res061-094.residents.stolaf.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 06:17:47< CIA-89> ai0867 * r49102 /branches/editor/ (91 files in 24 dirs): Merge trunk up to r49101. Still compilation issues... 20110404 06:17:48-!- Xenmen [~Administr@d173-183-84-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 06:25:34-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Quit: crimson_penguin] 20110404 06:38:53-!- Seiyria_ is now known as Seiyria 20110404 06:42:25-!- Seiyria [~Seiyria@141.233.52.54] has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 20110404 06:43:07< Upthorn> tschmitz: I figured out your problem 20110404 06:43:19< Upthorn> when you went to debug 20110404 06:43:30< Upthorn> you had the wesnothlib project active, instead of the wesnoth project 20110404 06:44:03< Upthorn> or at least 20110404 06:44:09< Upthorn> that's what that dialog would indicate 20110404 06:44:26< Espreon> http://dejavu.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/dejavu/branches/runic/ ... What a shame. 20110404 06:45:20< tschmitz> Well it seems like I got it to work ... 20110404 06:45:30< tschmitz> but 20110404 06:45:45< tschmitz> You're saying it's important to have a particular project active when clicking debug? 20110404 06:45:53< tschmitz> It doesn't just debug the whole solution? 20110404 06:46:00< Upthorn> yes. Each project compiles into a separate thing. 20110404 06:46:07< Upthorn> the wesnothd project compiles into wesnothd.exe 20110404 06:46:23< Upthorn> if you debug wesnothd, it will launch that program with the debugger attached 20110404 06:47:18< tschmitz> Well you may be right about the wesnothlib thing 20110404 06:47:19< tschmitz> I can't say 20110404 06:47:29< tschmitz> but it is recognizing my changes now 20110404 06:47:36< Upthorn> wesnothlib compiles into wesnoth.dll 20110404 06:48:05< tschmitz> Well that sounds consistent with the description of the dialog at that link I provided 20110404 06:48:27< Upthorn> or, .lib actually 20110404 06:48:56< Upthorn> but what it is used for is not tracked at the solution level 20110404 06:49:21< Upthorn> nor within the wesnothlib project 20110404 06:49:32-!- Xenmen [~Administr@d173-183-84-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20110404 06:52:45-!- dtiger [~dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-91-149-132-237.telecom.by] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 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At the moment I am using a plain new lua state, but I think the aspect code should have access to the environment with the wesnoth.* and ai.* functions 20110404 10:31:20< Crab_> usually, there's only one lua state in wesnoth 20110404 10:31:56< Crab_> see src/ai/lua/core.cpp to see how it gets from wesnoth to lua ai engine 20110404 10:32:19< Crab_> and, you create your aspects from lua_engine, so you should have access to it 20110404 10:32:38< Nephro> Looks that it 20110404 10:32:46< Nephro> it's just passed to the constructor 20110404 10:33:06< Crab_> note the stuff like resources::lua_kernel->create_lua_ai_action_handler 20110404 10:35:01< Crab_> it should be enough for your needs.. if not, let me know 20110404 10:35:46< Crab_> note that you don't need a lua state to call resources::lua_kernel->create_lua_ai_action_handler 20110404 10:36:15< Crab_> since it's just asking the singleton lua kernel to do the work, and it supplies the state in the process 20110404 10:36:36< Nephro> resources::lua_kernel->create_lua_ai_action_handler <- i can't seem to find the implementation and purpose of this 20110404 10:36:53< Crab_> it's in src/scripting/lua.cpp 20110404 10:37:17< Crab_> and the purpose is to get that lua state from the lua kernel without exposing it outside 20110404 10:37:49< Crab_> all it does is return ai::lua_ai_action_handler::create(mState,code,context); 20110404 10:37:59< Crab_> note that it passes it's mState 20110404 10:38:55< Crab_> the lua_ai_action_handler::create is in src/ai/lua/core.cpp 20110404 10:39:41< Nephro> yes, that I've found 20110404 10:39:51< Crab_> so, you just call it 'indirectly; 20110404 10:40:09< Crab_> so, no need to have a lua state at hand to call it 20110404 10:52:57-!- Max20010 [~chatzilla@d91-128-237-29.cust.tele2.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 10:54:32-!- codebox [~codebox@59.94.246.3] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 11:05:58-!- MeccaGod [majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 11:07:01-!- 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#wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224] 20110404 18:13:21< Disruption> boucman: Hi ^^ 20110404 18:15:02< boucman> hey, l'm on my phone so hard to talk 20110404 18:18:56< Disruption> oki, np :) 20110404 18:19:59-!- tschmitz_ [80726b27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.114.107.39] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 18:22:41-!- GvS0 [~zzz@bix242.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 18:25:49-!- sytyi [~chatzilla@151-47-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 18:32:28-!- akzfowl [~akzfowl@1.186.10.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20110404 18:34:00-!- sytyi [~chatzilla@151-47-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110404 18:38:14< zaroth> is GUI2_EXPERIMENTAL_LISTBOX still experimental? 20110404 18:43:47-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 18:44:20-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 18:47:22< boucman> that's à question for mordante 20110404 18:52:37< tschmitz_> OK so I fixed a few whiteboard bugs 20110404 18:52:53< tschmitz_> Should I go to gna? 20110404 18:53:00< tschmitz_> with my patch? 20110404 18:53:30< timotei> tschmitz: yes 20110404 18:54:16< tschmitz_> Should I submit it in the patch submit section and/or should I attach it or comment on the bug reports? 20110404 18:57:49-!- akzfowl [~akzfowl@1.186.10.250] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 18:58:11-!- dayoung [~dayoung@dhcp-79-33-050.jpl.nasa.gov] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:00:43< Soliton> submit a patch and mention in it link the bug report and add a comment with a link to the patch in the bug report. 20110404 19:01:07< Soliton> s/mention// 20110404 19:01:58-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110404 19:04:58< Disruption> I have a little doubt about the menu_handler::status_table method in menu_events.cpp 20110404 19:05:18-!- Aethaeryn 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getting used to Wesnoth code ._. 20110404 19:14:30-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:20:37-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-146-155.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:20:40-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 19:22:17< nagbot2> Time for a small public service announcement 20110404 19:22:19< nagbot2> An announcement for ALL Google Summer of Code Students: 20110404 19:22:20< nagbot2> Fill out the application form at google 20110404 19:22:22< nagbot2> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/student/google/gsoc2011?org=wesnoth 20110404 19:22:24< nagbot2> You NEED to submit your application till 8th april 2011, 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) 20110404 19:22:27< nagbot2> you can still finetune and talk to us about your application after submitting it to google. But, this is just to make sure that you *can* be selected at the end! 20110404 19:22:29< nagbot2> Only people listed there can be selected! 20110404 19:22:31< nagbot2> Submit patches and prototypes for review, so we'll see how you work. 20110404 19:22:33< nagbot2> Discuss your ideas here - get important feedback from developers 20110404 19:22:52-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:24:51< zaroth> Disruption: look inside is_enemy() ;-) 20110404 19:25:01< zaroth> team.hpp:176 20110404 19:25:43< zaroth> if I had to guess, it's probably a leftover after some refactoring, because it surely doesn't look intuitive 20110404 19:25:44-!- dayoung [~dayoung@dhcp-79-33-050.jpl.nasa.gov] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 19:25:53< Disruption> yes 20110404 19:25:59< Disruption> I saw the -1 just on the first line of is_enemy 20110404 19:26:03-!- dayoung [~dayoung@dhcp-79-33-050.jpl.nasa.gov] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:26:19< Disruption> but it's strange to use n in some functions and n-1 in others, that's why I was confused 20110404 19:26:23< Disruption> thanks for the tip anyways :) 20110404 19:28:52-!- automagic [~karol@87-205-164-244.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:30:46-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-146-155.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20110404 19:31:16-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-146-155.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:32:10-!- boucman2 [~boucman@62.201.142.92] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:32:44-!- boucman [~boucman@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC] 20110404 19:34:47-!- boucman2 [~boucman@62.201.142.92] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 19:35:30-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-146-155.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20110404 19:36:58-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:37:22< boucman> Disruption: ok, I can talk now 20110404 19:37:32-!- GvS0 [~zzz@bix242.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20110404 19:38:22< Disruption> ok 20110404 19:38:43< Disruption> I checked the bug you sent me, and I think I found the reason behind it, but I'm not really sure 20110404 19:38:53< Disruption> so I want to check if I understood the issue 20110404 19:39:21< Disruption> it's just a pair of lines in a few files, quick check 20110404 19:39:42-!- tschmitz_ [80726b27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.114.107.39] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20110404 19:40:18< boucman> did you try to change them an see if it fix the pb ? :P 20110404 19:41:01< Disruption> I have to install MSVC 20110404 19:41:05< Disruption> I'm on WXP right now 20110404 19:41:05-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20110404 19:41:20< boucman> did you compile wesnoth at some point ? 20110404 19:41:21< Disruption> so meanwhile I wanted to check if was on the right track 20110404 19:41:38-!- akzfowl [~akzfowl@1.186.10.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110404 19:41:58< Disruption> nope, that's what I'm aiming do to know that my project proposal is finished 20110404 19:42:16< boucman> i didn't understand your last sentence 20110404 19:42:52-!- EdB [~edb@89.82.194.231] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110404 19:43:21< Disruption> I mean that know that I'm more or less finished redacting and polishing my proposal for the gsoc, I'm focusing on the next step, which is compiling and checking the wesnoth source, and submitting patches 20110404 19:44:15< boucman> ok, well you can't submit a patch without testing it, so compiling should really be your next step 20110404 19:45:01-!- GvS0 [~zzz@afqb143.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:45:07-!- dayoung_ [~dayoung@dayoung-10175093546.jpl.nasa.gov] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:45:50< Disruption> yes, I'm looking for the MSVC download 20110404 19:45:58< Disruption> I saw someone sharing the link at some point, checking the logs 20110404 19:46:39-!- EdB [~edb@89.82.194.231] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:48:41-!- dayoung [~dayoung@dhcp-79-33-050.jpl.nasa.gov] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110404 19:48:41-!- dayoung_ is now known as dayoung 20110404 19:56:49-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: ...] 20110404 19:57:45-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:58:48-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 19:58:55< zaroth> mordante: hello 20110404 19:58:59< mordante> servus 20110404 19:59:05< mordante> servus zaroth 20110404 19:59:07< zaroth> is GUI2_EXPERIMENTAL_LISTBOX still experimental? 20110404 19:59:09< zaroth> ;-) 20110404 19:59:30< zaroth> i'm asking because I saw this define in gamestate_inspector.cpp 20110404 19:59:31< mordante> yes, and I'm not entirely happy with it either 20110404 19:59:38< zaroth> and Crab_ said it's quite old code 20110404 19:59:46< zaroth> oh, ok 20110404 20:00:04< mordante> yes the define is older, but have some WIP in local branches 20110404 20:00:12< zaroth> so I should use just the regular listbox.hpp? 20110404 20:00:18< mordante> hope to revive the code later 20110404 20:00:38< mordante> for what exactly? 20110404 20:01:22< zaroth> mordante: right now, as a proof of concept (since the comboboxes aren't there yet), I'd like to make the control panel have the same interface as gamestate_inspector has 20110404 20:01:29< zaroth> i.e. you pick a side from one list 20110404 20:01:51< zaroth> and then choose controlling player from second list next to it 20110404 20:01:57< mordante> best use both with the ifdef else it breaks compilation here 20110404 20:02:13< mordante> and in the end I think the interface will look more like the new version 20110404 20:02:31< zaroth> alright 20110404 20:02:57< Nephro> Disruption, just google visual c++ it will get you to the download page, the express edition is free 20110404 20:03:15< zaroth> btw, does this ugly version of control panel have chances for inclusion in trunk? it doesn't have to be gui clickable, it can be under :control_panel until it's nice and shiny ;-) 20110404 20:03:49< Disruption> I got the 2008 visual studio download 20110404 20:03:52< Disruption> from the microsoft page 20110404 20:03:57< Disruption> but thanks for the info :) 20110404 20:03:59< zaroth> s/clickable/reachable/ 20110404 20:07:14< mordante> zaroth, depends on how ugly it is, in an ideal world we only commit nice and shiny code and right at the first time 20110404 20:07:43< mordante> since that's fiction we shouldn't limit us only to perfect code 20110404 20:07:58< zaroth> mordante: the code will be shiny, I'm basing it on the nice gamestate_inspector MVC based design ;-) 20110404 20:08:03< mordante> so if your code fixes a real issue, I will consider including it 20110404 20:08:06< zaroth> just the gui probably won't 20110404 20:08:48< mordante> well having shiny code makes the odds of inclusion much larger 20110404 20:09:08< mordante> I don't mind some hacks and work-arounds for things not there yet 20110404 20:09:29< mordante> I only prefer them to be documented properly 20110404 20:09:58< mordante> but obviously I can't ACK it without seeing the patch 20110404 20:10:29< zaroth> mordante: I wasn't expecting it, I just wanted to ask a probe question to find out where to focus my work 20110404 20:11:03< zaroth> thanks for the information! 20110404 20:11:12< mordante> well I don't mind help getting a combobox done, except that I feel some other code needs to be rewritten first 20110404 20:11:44< mordante> and of course that shouldn't block your work, so if you need a hack since the GUI code isn't ready yet, use the hack 20110404 20:12:46< mordante> btw zaroth I haven't found time for your patch yet, but hope the find time for it soon 20110404 20:15:26-!- EdB [~edb@89.82.194.231] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110404 20:16:03< zaroth> it's not that urgent, I doubt that this document is read more than once per two weeks ;-) 20110404 20:16:16< zaroth> however in the GSoC time the frequency can go up 20110404 20:21:53-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-115-159.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 20:21:53-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-115-159.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20110404 20:21:53-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 20:23:32-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-173-219-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110404 20:31:11-!- boucman2 [~boucman@62.201.142.72] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 20:36:07< mordante> zaroth, glimpsed over patch 2618 and it has some weird stuff; touched 'po/wesnoth-dm/gl.po' adds a .gitignore and modifies CMakeLists.txt, was the changelog update planned? 20110404 20:36:40< zaroth> errm... 20110404 20:36:44< zaroth> let me have a look 20110404 20:37:05< zaroth> I didn't know that you can simply add .gitignore line to .gitignore file back then 20110404 20:37:21< zaroth> to avoid having it output every time by git status 20110404 20:37:58< mordante> yes, but even if it's wanted I think it would justify a separate patch, ideally one patch does one thing 20110404 20:38:35< zaroth> of course ;-) 20110404 20:38:58< zaroth> ah, yeah, patch 2618 20110404 20:38:59-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 20:39:17< zaroth> it has lots of weird stuff and isn't intended for inclusion, ever 20110404 20:40:06< mordante> well I already spotted the lots of deletes, but the other stuff looked really out of context 20110404 20:40:15< zaroth> but if it irks you, I can remove the offending diff parts 20110404 20:41:11-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 20:41:26< mordante> not that much, I only wonder what 'went wrong' especially the gl.po file looks really out of place 20110404 20:41:54< zaroth> mordante: i explained it once on irc to timotei... I just did git diff against the same changeset 20110404 20:42:05< zaroth> and I rebased between my first and second patch 20110404 20:42:32< zaroth> so timotei's and Ivanovic's commits are there, too 20110404 20:42:37< mordante> ah ok, didn't read that part it the log, will read that first 20110404 20:42:51< mordante> s/it/of/ 20110404 20:42:57< zaroth> but if that many people are looking at my patch, I should probably fix it anyway 20110404 20:43:17< zaroth> I expected just Crab_ to look at it, since he was the one who asked me to show that I can hack through 20110404 20:43:25< mordante> I'll read the log first, maybe I can suggest a better way to create the diffs 20110404 20:43:51< mordante> normally not everybody looks at all patches, but you're a GSoC student so more people are interested in what you do 20110404 20:44:26< zaroth> mordante: you don't need to, I'll just switch the branch to the correct one, fetch the newest trunk and diff against the correct commit this time 20110404 20:44:28< Ivanovic> it is common that several mentors look over the code 20110404 20:44:48< mordante> zaroth, ok 20110404 20:45:33< zaroth> maybe I could also add non MP LoW scenarios back 20110404 20:45:37< zaroth> so the patch isn't that big 20110404 20:45:54< timotei> zaroth: I for one, am subscribed to the commit mailing list, and reading (almost) all commits code (except translations). That's why I may read the patches from time to time too :P 20110404 20:46:31< mordante> I also read most patches at least look at the message and see whether I'm interested to read further 20110404 20:46:40< mordante> s/patches/commits/ 20110404 20:47:42< zaroth> mordante: by the way, what can be reason for this to happen? http://i.imgur.com/xImzJ.png 20110404 20:48:03< zaroth> (I mean that the window is stretched out horizontally beyond need) 20110404 20:48:11< zaroth> did I mess up something in .cfg? 20110404 20:48:33< mordante> zaroth, regarding cmake you need a build dir for every configuration 20110404 20:48:55< zaroth> or is it normal? 20110404 20:48:57< mordante> and regarding the image, please pastebin the .cfg 20110404 20:49:31< mordante> I think I know what you did `wrong' but the .cfg will tell me more 20110404 20:49:38< mordante> I expect a 3x3 grid 20110404 20:49:44< zaroth> mordante: http://paste.kde.org/8914/ 20110404 20:50:09< zaroth> no, it's not a 3x3 grid... should it ? ;-) 20110404 20:50:57< zaroth> (maybe I overcomplicated it a bit) 20110404 20:51:05< mordante> no it should not, but that would explain the issue at hand 20110404 20:51:27< mordante> btw there is also debug_border which you can set to see the borders of a widget 20110404 20:51:43< zaroth> oh, neat 20110404 20:51:46< mordante> and for debugging I sometimes set it to 1 in widget.cpp so I see all borders 20110404 20:52:56< zaroth> by the way, why it shouldn't? 20110404 20:53:15< zaroth> argh, I misread 20110404 20:53:25< zaroth> instead of seeing "explain" I saw "solve" 20110404 20:55:31< mordante> well it's the same issue as the 3x3 grid 20110404 20:55:52< mordante> let me pastebin something 20110404 20:56:10-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 20:57:59< mordante> zaroth, http://paste.debian.net/112978/ this is how the window looks (buttons is ok + cancel) 20110404 20:58:31< zaroth> yeah, and shouldn't it work? 20110404 20:58:48< zaroth> oh wait 20110404 20:58:50< mordante> no all cells in the grid share the same width 20110404 20:58:51< zaroth> I see... 20110404 20:59:16< zaroth> so a simple 1x3 grid would do better, without spacers? 20110404 20:59:24< zaroth> and a grid within each cell if needed? 20110404 20:59:37< mordante> yes 20110404 20:59:48< zaroth> all right :-) 20110404 21:01:00< zaroth> timotei: does your eclipse plugin support this gui wml stuff? 20110404 21:01:37< zaroth> because I'm getting pretty confused using kate with so many indentation levels already... 20110404 21:01:59< timotei> zaroth: what do you mean by support?:P 20110404 21:02:02< mordante> yeah one of the disadvantages of the stuff 20110404 21:02:07< timotei> well 20110404 21:02:09< timotei> that is a great idea 20110404 21:02:19< timotei> trying to create a visual GUI using GUI2 wml markup :) 20110404 21:02:39< mordante> what I sometimes do is to add macros to split the UI in blocks 20110404 21:02:46< timotei> using the plugin* 20110404 21:03:09< zaroth> mordante: nice! I already see {BUTTONS_DOWN_GRID} with eyes of my mind 20110404 21:03:11< zaroth> let's do it! 20110404 21:04:59-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 21:05:55< mordante> we could add that 20110404 21:06:40< timotei> zaroth: but creating a visual GUI Designer would require parsing and "executing" the wml code :P 20110404 21:07:17< zaroth> timotei: don't you already do parts of that? ;-) 20110404 21:07:33< timotei> zaroth: of course not. I'm basing on the native C++ engine 20110404 21:07:34< timotei> :) 20110404 21:07:42< zaroth> (I don't know, I'm only using shadowmaster's kate plugin for WML editing) 20110404 21:08:19< zaroth> ah, what a pity 20110404 21:08:43< mordante> zaroth, is the cmake build problem solved for you? 20110404 21:08:47< zaroth> (but to encourage you, it would surely make making new skins for wesnoths more accessible for non-coders :P ) 20110404 21:08:55< zaroth> mordante: pretty much yes 20110404 21:09:04< zaroth> I use "" (default) build in build/ folder 20110404 21:09:13< zaroth> and "Debug" build in build_debug/ folder 20110404 21:09:28< mordante> I was more referring to you build problem with Lua 20110404 21:09:31< zaroth> both of them added to my .gitignore, which I learned to hide from my own commits this time 20110404 21:09:43< zaroth> that's what I was also referring to 20110404 21:09:50< zaroth> in "Release" build it still crashes 20110404 21:09:55< zaroth> but in "" it works fine 20110404 21:10:07-!- gabba [~gabba@wesnoth/developer/gabba] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 21:10:45< gabba> hey tschmitz 20110404 21:10:55< zaroth> since I have fast compilation, I don't complain ;-) 20110404 21:12:34< boucman2> hey gabba 20110404 21:12:37< mordante> ok, could you paste your error, http://paste.kde.org/8818/ is no longer valid and there might be a real issye 20110404 21:12:39< mordante> issue* 20110404 21:12:44< gabba> hello boucman 20110404 21:13:09-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 21:13:12< gabba> I'm reviewing tschmitz's patch 20110404 21:13:25< timotei> gabba: are you gonna be a mentor this year? :) 20110404 21:13:37< timotei> (gabba: btw, hi) 20110404 21:13:48< gabba> hi timotei, long time no see 20110404 21:13:56< timotei> yep:) 20110404 21:13:57< gabba> nope, no mentoring for me ;) 20110404 21:14:06< timotei> not enough time I presume 20110404 21:14:29< gabba> exactly, I would've applied as a student for a last time otherwise 20110404 21:17:20< boucman2> I'm the likely mentor for WB 20110404 21:17:28< gabba> timotei: what about you, are you mentoring? 20110404 21:17:37< mordante> zaroth, 'git diff' does 'git diff HEAD' by default 20110404 21:17:54< timotei> gabba: no. At least not yet. I still have 3 years to get part of gsoc a student, and I'm gonna use them in that way 20110404 21:17:56< timotei> :) 20110404 21:18:05< timotei> s/a/as a/ 20110404 21:18:14< gabba> good choice I'd say 20110404 21:18:32< timotei> yeah 20110404 21:20:22< epyon> Crab_, do students need to register their wesnoth accounts somewhere? 20110404 21:20:30< epyon> (group/id?) 20110404 21:20:50< Crab_> epyon: you have to submit a google application, and link it to your wiki page and irc nick. 20110404 21:21:04< Crab_> epyon: that's more or less all formalities we require to *consider* your application 20110404 21:21:31< Crab_> apart from that, we'll look at the patches/etc you've done for wesnoth, on your proposal and maybe held an interview to see if you're up for the task 20110404 21:21:35< epyon> Crab_, that I know, but AFAIR last year students were added to a GSoC group :> 20110404 21:21:52< Crab_> epyon: that's just some forum group, it's not important 20110404 21:22:07< Crab_> it might be important for the people who need feedback on the forums, of course 20110404 21:22:07< epyon> kk 20110404 21:22:21< epyon> Crab_, well I will, but probably not todat 20110404 21:22:23< epyon> today* 20110404 21:22:35< Crab_> note the difference of 'someone with 1 posts proposes some crazy sh*t' vs 'someone who is a gsoc candidate proposes some project' ) 20110404 21:22:47< Crab_> for that, a forum group certainly helps :) 20110404 21:23:02< epyon> Crab_, that's exactly what I was asking about from the beginning :P 20110404 21:23:15< Crab_> anyway, if you're registered on wesnoth's forums, just tell someone like me your nickname 20110404 21:23:32< epyon> Crab_, forum reg is separate from wiki reg? 20110404 21:23:48< Soliton> yes. 20110404 21:24:09-!- boucman2 [~boucman@62.201.142.72] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC] 20110404 21:24:25< timotei> boucman: using Android? :P 20110404 21:29:09< boucman> nope, just reached a real keyboard :P 20110404 21:31:16< AI0867> boucman: is androIRC a decent client? 20110404 21:31:28< boucman> yes 20110404 21:31:33< AI0867> because ssh+screen+irssi works, but is a bit awkward 20110404 21:31:38< boucman> it's not marvelous, but it's decent 20110404 21:32:07-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110404 21:32:09< boucman> it doesn't have a reading line which is annoying and you can't configure how it notifies... 20110404 21:32:15< boucman> but overall it's quite useable 20110404 21:36:59-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 21:37:21< epyon> hmm, the questions from the questionare overlap with the project description... 20110404 21:37:57< epyon> should the questionare be treated as a guideline to doing the project description or should it be filled as is? 20110404 21:44:26< boucman> a bit of both :) 20110404 21:45:09< boucman> most of the questions are not overlaping and need to be answer, but the project description should be much bigger, it could even be it's own wiki page 20110404 21:46:03< epyon> Can I leave it empty and link to it's own page? 20110404 21:46:40< mordante> I'm off night 20110404 21:46:48-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 21:47:01-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20110404 21:48:00< Ivanovic> epyon: in theory you could also answer the questionaire (minus the project part) only in the google tracker and do the project part on a wiki page 20110404 21:48:44< epyon> Ivanovic, I would much more prefer that, I'm kind of shy on publishing any private info on the web 20110404 21:49:17< Ivanovic> there is really no problem with such an approach 20110404 21:49:21-!- nephx [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 21:49:26< timotei> wow, compacting the email got the used space from 8 to 5.4 gigas xD 20110404 21:49:44< Ivanovic> Crab_: btw have you managed to make any progress regarding the 1.8.x fix you are/were working on? 20110404 21:49:57< Crab_> sadly, not yet 20110404 21:50:01< Ivanovic> and: do you already know if you will need string changes? 20110404 21:50:28-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 21:50:30< Crab_> yes, unless I manage to steal some (the buttons have pretty generic names) 20110404 21:52:18-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.86.2] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 21:52:18-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.86.2] has quit [Changing host] 20110404 21:52:18-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 21:52:25-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20110404 21:54:22< timotei> good night 20110404 21:54:23-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: SIGKILL] 20110404 21:55:37-!- vjoe [~vjoe@91.125.244.141] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 21:55:42< vjoe> hello 20110404 21:57:15< zaroth> hi vjoe 20110404 21:57:25< Crab_> hello, vjoe 20110404 21:58:07< epyon> hmm, ok, seems as I will need a separate page for the project anyway, for it to be listed in the ideas section. 20110404 21:58:21< zaroth> epyon: nope, you don't 20110404 21:58:45< zaroth> ah, sorry, didn't read the previous part ;-) 20110404 21:58:58< epyon> :) 20110404 22:08:18< epyon> zaroth, seems I didn't need anyway -- just adding a proper template worked 20110404 22:08:52-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl5402A151.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110404 22:11:32-!- melinath [~melinath@ip-75-137.wireless.oberlin.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:11:34< Disruption> Wesnoth takes eons to compile the first time Z.z 20110404 22:12:12< boucman> :P 20110404 22:13:45< Disruption> tons of double to int cast warnings too :P I think all projects have that kind of warnings =D 20110404 22:14:25< boucman> that's weird... we usually compile with -Werror 20110404 22:14:27-!- akzfowl [~akzfowl@1.186.10.250] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:15:32< Disruption> I'm using VC++ 2008, following the second windows compilation way listed in the wiki 20110404 22:16:01< Disruption> maybe that changes something 20110404 22:17:06< Disruption> but I don't get any other warnings, so it's ok 20110404 22:17:18< Disruption> only those ones, double to int, or lua_Number to int 20110404 22:20:10< automagic> boucman: Hi. I don't know if you've seen my proposal wiki page yet (at least the updated version). http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SoC2011_Automagic 20110404 22:20:23< boucman> automagic: checking now 20110404 22:20:58< CIA-89> gabba * r49104 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 20110404 22:20:58< CIA-89> Patch #2622 by tschmitz 20110404 22:20:58< CIA-89> * "Redo" action now calls on_gamestate_change() to tell whiteboard to revalidate the planned moves. 20110404 22:20:58< CIA-89> * Attempting to make the first planned action occur earlier in the planned actions list will no longer crash Wesnoth. 20110404 22:20:58< CIA-89> * Fixed bug #16845 20110404 22:20:59< CIA-89> * Probably fixed bug #16669 20110404 22:21:00< CIA-89> (testing under MSVC is needed to confirm both) 20110404 22:21:38-!- elias [~allefant@allefant.com] has quit [Changing host] 20110404 22:21:38-!- elias [~allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:23:32< boucman> automagic: that's a good start 20110404 22:24:14< gabba> boucman: I messaged you 20110404 22:24:17< boucman> you've gave it some thought, that's good 20110404 22:24:26< boucman> gabba: gimme a sec :) 20110404 22:24:47-!- stikonas_ [~and@ctv-213-164-115-159.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:24:47-!- stikonas_ [~and@ctv-213-164-115-159.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20110404 22:24:47-!- stikonas_ [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:24:52-!- Seiyria [~Seiyria@141.233.52.230] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:25:07-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110404 22:25:11-!- mrogalski [~mrogalski@ip-89-174-123-139.multimo.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:25:26< boucman> I don't think the packing algorithm is that important as long as it's "good enough" and good enough in case all images have almost the same size is probably any arrangement, so I don't think the real problem is there :) 20110404 22:25:55-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:27:44< Disruption> * still compiling * 20110404 22:27:51< boucman> the real problem is about artists changing the size of frames and the impact on the cutting of frames for example and things like that 20110404 22:28:02< boucman> Disruption: it is a huge piece of code :) 20110404 22:28:06< Disruption> yep 20110404 22:28:35-!- nephx [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110404 22:28:40< Disruption> good thing that after the first, I only have to generate object files for modified files 20110404 22:29:17< Disruption> which, hopefully, will only be two or three each time 20110404 22:29:22< Disruption> much more chewable :D 20110404 22:29:46< boucman> Disruption: don't edit display.hpp ;) 20110404 22:29:53-!- nephx [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:31:27-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110404 22:32:13-!- dtiger [~dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-65-28.telecom.by] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110404 22:32:15< boucman> tschmitz: just looked at your proposal... you need to flesh it some more, but a couple of remarks already 20110404 22:32:54< nephx> !nagbot tschmitz 20110404 22:32:55< boucman> no, i don't think many player plan multiple turns in advance, there are too much changes from one turn to the next due to the opponent 20110404 22:33:05< nephx> nagbot: tschmitz ? 20110404 22:33:06-!- dheerajgoud728 [b4953264@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.149.50.100] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:33:08< nagbot2> tschmitz : http://wiki.wesnoth.org//User:Tschmitz : http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/tschmitz/1 20110404 22:33:10 * nephx looks casual 20110404 22:33:20< boucman> otoh being able to plan moves during your oponent's turn is quite usefull 20110404 22:33:45< zaroth> boucman: regardless, I use quite often multi-turn moves in campaigns, especially caves scenarios 20110404 22:34:06< zaroth> but they aren't part of the whiteboard ;-) 20110404 22:34:36< boucman> hmm, yes, I think MP too much 20110404 22:35:37< gabba> tschmitz: good job, your patch's in - one more to get commit access 20110404 22:36:52< vjoe> Crab_: is it ok to just put a link to my wiki page on the google application? 20110404 22:37:05< automagic> boucman: The images from a single animation often have the same size, but some spritesheets could include mare than one animation, which complicates the packing. Creating an algorithm providing reasonable suggestions could be a useful feature. 20110404 22:37:13< zaroth> vjoe: yes, and do the other way around as well 20110404 22:37:14< boucman> vjoe: yes 20110404 22:37:23< zaroth> so nagbot knows that you submitted 20110404 22:37:41< Crab_> vjoe: yes 20110404 22:37:44< vjoe> ok 20110404 22:37:46< vjoe> thanks guys! 20110404 22:38:06< boucman> automagic: yes, it's the difference between reasonable and optimal... no need to go for complicated genetic algorithms when a first fit or best fit is enough 20110404 22:38:36< gabba> well, gtg 20110404 22:38:38< gabba> 'night all 20110404 22:38:46< Crab_> night, gabba 20110404 22:38:51< boucman> night gabba 20110404 22:39:00-!- gabba [~gabba@wesnoth/developer/gabba] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20110404 22:39:59< Disruption> why nagbot is nagbot2 now? New version? 20110404 22:45:13< Seiyria> wouldn't it have to be 2.0? 20110404 22:46:57< nephx> Crab_, I studied the LuaKernel methods, found no method that I could use to run the aspect code. I have only two ideas at the moment now: 1) we just ask the kernel for the lua_State *(by creating a function of course) 2) we pass the reference to a lua_object to lua_kernel, which then calls the value getter method passing the state to it... The only problem would be with returning the values, but I think I'd manage to work around that. What Do you think? 20110404 22:46:57< nephx> Maybe you have a more clever way in mind? :) 20110404 22:47:06< shadowmaster> dots are illegal in nicknames unless you are a server 20110404 22:47:20< zookeeper> boucman, since you're mentoring the spritesheets: there's two relevant posts by jetrel in this thread that i presume the applicants should be aware of: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29311 20110404 22:47:56< Crab_> nephx: how do you want to return the value ? 20110404 22:48:54-!- Upth [~ogmar@c-76-105-37-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110404 22:50:10< zookeeper> boucman, just saying, as i think the plans of some students seem (based on what i've seen here, although i'm not following closely) to be focusing too much on efficiency and too little on artist convenience whereas the latter should really be the primary aim. 20110404 22:50:44< nephx> Well, we either make a value in the lua_object, that will store the returned from lua value(this causes difficulties with the existing template configuration, but probably solvable). Or we can just do LuaKernel::run_and_get_value(lua_object) {return lua_object(state);} -- something like this(it's pseudo of course) 20110404 22:51:22< epyon> nephx, you're starting to sound like my compiler :P 20110404 22:51:25< boucman> zookeeper: i agree with that, i insist on it wheneve a student asks around, but the message doesn't seem to pass... 20110404 22:52:06< Crab_> nephx: yes, lua_object is the way to go, I think 20110404 22:52:28< nephx> Crab_, you mean the first or the second way? 20110404 22:52:37< nephx> lua_object is the wrapper around the lua code for the aspect 20110404 22:52:51< Crab_> lua_object as a wrapper for returned value 20110404 22:53:29< zookeeper> boucman, all right, can't really do much more than that... 20110404 22:53:43< epyon> Crab_, considering that you already use boost, didn't you consider luabind? 20110404 22:53:47< nephx> that is the one that causes template issues, but ok, I'll get to the bottom of it :) 20110404 22:54:46< Crab_> epyon: at the moment, no, since the rest of the code doesn't use it. 20110404 22:55:00< Crab_> epyon: but, if someone will want to and makes a convincing case for it... 20110404 22:55:14< Crab_> epyon: there's little reason to rewrite working code, of course 20110404 22:55:44< epyon> Crab_, true that. 20110404 22:56:05< automagic> zookeeper: I have been thinking about what you said yesterday and I have changed my proposal quite a lot. Here is the link http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SoC2011_Automagic 20110404 22:56:32-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-146-155.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:56:47< Crab_> nephx: so, I'd change lua ai action handler to return a lua_object instead of config 20110404 22:57:03< Crab_> nephx: and change the lua candidate action code to work with lua_object (it'll work ok) 20110404 22:57:09< automagic> boucman: It's not like my proposal is focused on using genetic algorithms. Creating an alogirhtm that would give good suggestions is the last stage of the implementation. I see it as an interesting final touch rather than center idea 20110404 22:57:20< Crab_> so, you'd be able to use the (modified) code of lua ai action handler 20110404 22:57:32-!- monochromatic [~elvish_so@pool-74-109-59-232.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 22:58:01-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-146-155.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20110404 22:58:23< boucman> automagic: you should describe scenarios from an artis point of view, how to interact with spritesheets, reorder, describe animations, how to integrate single frames that another artist would have put on the forum etc... 20110404 22:58:36< nephx> argh, I sense if I finish this, the patch will be HUGE 20110404 22:58:37< boucman> the main problem is doing something convienient for the artists 20110404 22:59:38-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: melinath, yann, fstltna, Vorpal, Disruption, loonycyborg, automagic, LordNasty, Seiyria, iwaim___, (+8 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20110404 23:02:24-!- Netsplit over, joins: apoi_, fendrin, melinath, Vorpal, iwaim___, fstltna, erl, vcap, loonycyborg, Seiyria (+8 more) 20110404 23:03:10< CIA-89> ai0867 * r49105 /branches/editor/src/ (CMakeLists.txt SConscript game_errors.cpp): Finally fix compilation 20110404 23:03:45-!- stikonas_ [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 23:04:07-!- stikonas_ [~and@ctv-213-164-115-159.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 23:04:09< automagic> boucman: I could use a simpler algorithm for the task. But I think that such optimization would at least in some cases give better results. If you think it is an unnecessary complication I could drop the idea, but it would be interesting to implement it. 20110404 23:04:14-!- stikonas_ [~and@ctv-213-164-115-159.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20110404 23:04:14-!- stikonas_ [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 23:04:31< automagic> s/But/However, 20110404 23:04:58< boucman> automagic: i don't really mind, i'm just saying it's a detail and i'm more intersted in other aspect, like use cases 20110404 23:12:12-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110404 23:13:51-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-146-155.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 23:15:14< Crab_> boucman: was https://gna.org/patch/?1528 ever committed to 1.9 ? 20110404 23:18:05-!- Sirp_ [~user@pool-173-74-15-196.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 23:19:50-!- stikonas_ [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20110404 23:25:14-!- stikonas_ [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 23:25:17< boucman> Crab_: i don't remember, it should have been... theoretically 20110404 23:25:25-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20110404 23:25:47< Crab_> boucman: ok. zaroth says that it looks committed (strings in code), but we see no button :) 20110404 23:25:47-!- vjoe [~vjoe@91.125.244.141] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20110404 23:26:13< boucman> hmm weird 20110404 23:26:25-!- stikonas_ [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 23:27:08< zaroth> boucman: http://pastebin.com/p68h0PKy maybe that helps your memory? 20110404 23:27:17< zaroth> it looks like it got hidden for a reason 20110404 23:27:48< boucman> zaroth: what does svn blame say ? 20110404 23:27:54< zaroth> I'm doing it now 20110404 23:27:59< zaroth> it takes a while :D 20110404 23:28:33< zaroth> gabba turned it off 20110404 23:28:51-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has quit [] 20110404 23:29:32< boucman> zaroth: what commit number ? 20110404 23:29:58-!- stikonas_ [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 23:30:09< zaroth> "Hide my "add named local players" button, since it still has some issues. Remove entry from changelog until feature is complete.", revision 45787 20110404 23:30:44< zaroth> since he didn't state in the commit messages what issues they are, I guess I need to ask him.. 20110404 23:30:44< boucman> you now know as much as I do :P 20110404 23:30:49-!- stikonas_ is now known as stikonas 20110404 23:31:01< zaroth> gabba: could you elaborate, please ? ;-) 20110404 23:31:13< boucman> zaroth: try toPM him, itmight be more efficient than irc 20110404 23:31:28< boucman> i need to get some sleep, see you all next time 20110404 23:31:46-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110404 23:31:52-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20110404 23:32:04< zaroth> night, boucman 20110404 23:36:41-!- zaroth [~zaroth@unaffiliated/zaroth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110404 23:36:53-!- nephx [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20110404 23:39:37-!- mrogalski [~mrogalski@ip-89-174-123-139.multimo.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110404 23:53:53-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] --- Log closed Tue Apr 05 00:00:06 2011