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20110419 00:39:25< epyon> heh virus detected in wesonthd.exe Win32/Heur O.o
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20110419 00:46:12< gabba> Ivanovic: I read the log, and yes, I think the two patches are sufficient for tschmitz to get commit access.
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20110419 00:59:27-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: Google Summer of Code: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas | 199 bugs, 312 feature requests, 23 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20110419 01:03:33< CIA-82> gabba * r49272 /trunk/src/whiteboard/move.cpp: Fix for bug #18035: Ensure that the destination hex is free before trying to execute a move.
20110419 01:03:44< CIA-82> gabba * r49273 /trunk/src/whiteboard/move.cpp: Adjustments to comments, todos and logging
20110419 01:03:53< CIA-82> gabba * r49274 /trunk/src/ (game_events.cpp scripting/lua.cpp scripting/lua.hpp): Only call the on_gamestate_change() method of the whiteboard in the event pump when an event is actually handled.
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20110419 01:12:11< fendrin> epyon: The virus lives in our binaries?
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20110419 01:21:20< loonycyborg> fendrin: epyon: There were posts about this on the forums. Seems to have been a false positive.
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20110419 01:42:36< Gambit> fendrin: someone mentioned you in tiny size 10 text: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=485922#p485922 :)
20110419 01:43:08< Gambit> They're wondering if you should be poked, and if so: with what instrument?
20110419 01:44:14< fendrin> Gambit: Thanks.
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20110419 02:09:08< CIA-82> espreon * r49275 /trunk/data/tools/wmllint: Made wmllint ignore UTF-8 minus signs when spellchecking.
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20110419 02:24:17< ancestral> shadowmaster: on?
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20110419 02:24:49< shadowmaster> ancestral: yes?
20110419 02:25:27< ancestral> s/Create/Wiki ?
20110419 02:25:38< shadowmaster> no
20110419 02:25:54< ancestral> Because?
20110419 02:26:01< shadowmaster> 1) "Wiki ?" is a silly name.
20110419 02:26:21< ancestral> People don't know there's a wiki because it's hard to find
20110419 02:26:33< ancestral> They're not looking for "create" (imo)
20110419 02:26:39< shadowmaster> 2) I'm not the wiki admin, and my role as website admin is limited to being able to kill apache2 and mysqld at will
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20110419 02:29:13< Espreon|mkraid> shadowmaster: He meant "Wiki"; not "Wiki ?", but who cares?
20110419 02:29:49< shadowmaster> shush
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20110419 02:30:12< Espreon|mkraid> Oh, all right.
20110419 02:30:18< shadowmaster> don't pretend to be the antipedant, Espreon
20110419 02:30:48< shadowmaster> after all, you are the one who doomed us to using obscure and undistinguishable-from-the-real-thing Unicode characters
20110419 02:30:59< Espreon|mkraid> True.
20110419 02:31:20< ancestral> You'd probably have to close fewer threads and tell fewer people where to go to get help
20110419 02:32:06< shadowmaster> my joke went over your head.
20110419 02:32:07< Gambit> ancestral: He's picking on you for a perl syntax error :s
20110419 02:32:12< shadowmaster> so let's be serious:
20110419 02:32:18< ancestral> ah sure
20110419 02:32:30< ancestral> It's late here and I'm worried about dinner plans
20110419 02:32:37< shadowmaster> 1) "Wiki" should refer to the main entry point o the Wiki, not the page that's only relevant to wannabe content creators
20110419 02:32:41< shadowmaster> *to
20110419 02:32:58< shadowmaster> 2) I'm not the wiki admin, and my role as website admin is limited to being able to restart apache2 and mysqld at will
20110419 02:33:04 * Espreon chuckles
20110419 02:33:24< Gambit> You're not changing anything on the wiki.
20110419 02:33:31< shadowmaster> exactly
20110419 02:33:35< ancestral> :-\
20110419 02:33:45< ancestral> Alright, you could just say "you're asking the wrong person"
20110419 02:34:39< shadowmaster> You'd then go "I thought you were the website admin"
20110419 02:34:45< ancestral> Probably
20110419 02:34:57< shadowmaster> and I'd go "well, you see, I'm not the wiki admin, and my role as website admin is limited to being able to restart apache2 and mysqld at will"
20110419 02:35:09< shadowmaster> so it'd not be more optimal than this exchange
20110419 02:35:35< shadowmaster> on the contrary!
20110419 02:35:46< Gambit> ancestral: Perhpas Ivanovic will be more helpful.
20110419 02:38:42< ancestral> I still don't know how you not being the wiki admin is relevant at all
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20110419 02:39:00< ancestral> But I digress, I suppose
20110419 02:39:06< shadowmaster> ah, I forgot 3, my bad
20110419 02:39:12< shadowmaster> 3) I don't want to have anything to do with wikis.
20110419 02:39:23< ancestral> Again, I don't see how that's relevant
20110419 02:39:37< ancestral> Well
20110419 02:40:15< shadowmaster> I don't see why you'd ask me about changing the Create link's label if I'm not involved with wiki administration
20110419 02:40:36< shadowmaster> considering that it's, well, part of the wiki.
20110419 02:40:52< ancestral> No no, the link @ wesnoth.org. But you've made your point you don't handle that.
20110419 02:41:09< shadowmaster> The link at wesnoth.org is part of the wiki.
20110419 02:41:19< ancestral> i.e. http://forums.wesnoth.org/ ?
20110419 02:41:23< ancestral> I find that hard to believe!
20110419 02:41:43< ancestral> Because that's just an anchor element ;-)
20110419 02:41:52< shadowmaster> The navbar I use in weldyn is directly copied from the one used in glamdrol's template
20110419 02:41:53< Espreon|mkraid> ancestral: I don't think he gives a shit.
20110419 02:42:09< ancestral> I got that
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20110419 02:42:23< shadowmaster> Unless the glamdrol template changes, I'm not changing weldyn's navbar
20110419 02:43:05< ancestral> shadowmaster: Just never mind :-\
20110419 02:43:12< ancestral> Forget I even asked :(
20110419 02:43:27< shadowmaster> Sounds good to me!
20110419 02:44:05< ancestral> There went 15 minutes of my life
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20110419 02:53:14< Espreon> Soliton: Just reminding you that gettext.wesnoth.org's svn process is frozen.
20110419 02:53:27< shadowmaster> oh?
20110419 02:53:33< Espreon> Soliton: ... for WesCamp stuff at least.
20110419 02:53:54< shadowmaster> shadowm@wesnoth:~$ ps aux | fgrep svn
20110419 02:54:01< shadowmaster> zarro results... :(
20110419 02:54:08< Espreon> Odd...
20110419 02:54:19< Espreon> Stats for UMC haven't been updated for a while...
20110419 02:56:57< shadowmaster> In that case it's not a frozen svn process, at least
20110419 02:57:19< Espreon> Then what could it be?
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20110419 04:46:00< shadowmaster> eleazzaar: Just a reminder in case you didn't know (since it's very easy to overlook this feature), it is possible to subscribe to forum topics by email to get notified of new replies (one email per topic only until you read all new replies).
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20110419 04:46:40< shadowmaster> Forums are also subscribable, but I guess that has little use in most cases.
20110419 04:47:08< eleazzaar> shadowmaster:  i think i'm subscribed to some of my topics.  Good idea, i should make sure.
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20110419 06:32:31< dansan> Hey, I hope it's ok to post mod questions here.  So is there a safe way to get random values in Lua in 1.8?
20110419 06:32:51< dansan> i.e., like [set_variable] rand=blah,blah..
20110419 06:33:24< dansan> or is this helper.rand that's in 1.9 only?
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20110419 07:25:04< Soliton> probably 1.9 only.
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20110419 07:54:37< Espreon> Soliton: I hate to be a pest, but would you please run svn cleanup in gettext.wesnoth.org's svn checkout... the WesCamp stuff at least? Perhaps that will solve the problem.
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20110419 08:46:14< CIA-82> timotei * r49276 /website/eclipse.wesnoth.org/doc_howto.html: eclipse plugin: update the links for 1.0.2
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20110419 09:47:01< CIA-82> shadowmaster * r49277 /trunk/README: forums.w.o, not forum.w.o
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20110419 10:11:28< Ivanovic> moin
20110419 10:13:14< CIA-82> shadowmaster * r49278 /branches/1.8/README: 
20110419 10:13:14< CIA-82> forums.w.o, not forum.w.o
20110419 10:13:14< CIA-82> (Backported from trunk, r49277.)
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20110419 13:49:40< nephro_> Sadness is when you sit in the library at night working on the proposal page, you post a comment in google-melange, and in the morning discover that the comment isn't there
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20110419 15:33:52< nephro_> Hello, Crab_ 
20110419 15:34:03< Crab_> hi
20110419 15:34:24< nephro_> Have you seen then note that I left in my forums post?
20110419 15:35:01< nephro_> I read the feedback on the code, but will not be able to fix/modify it, since I have an exam tomorrow and another one coming real soon. Please, reply if you have any suggestions on what I could do, while I am in this "internetless" state(writing from a friends place atm).
20110419 15:35:06< nephro_> ^
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20110419 15:37:12< nephro_> Crab_:I've written a letter to the computer department asking whether can provide me with normal internet and a monitor(or a PC with Visual Studion), since my laptop became almost unusable and I have no internet at home... If they don't help me, I'll be in such state until the 17th of may
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20110419 15:38:28< Ivanovic> nephro_: first thing you can do is relax and prepare for your exams
20110419 15:38:42< Ivanovic> (just out of interest: what are they about?)
20110419 15:39:43< nephro_> On the 17th, I'll travel back to latvia, where I have a PC and a stable connection, till then I can only read code on the library PCs (or if the guys from the department give me a machine I can finish off that patch for once :) )
20110419 15:40:22< nephro_> Ivanovic: Computing Science(two of them: programming and general stuff), programming practical, electronic engineering and maths
20110419 15:40:34< Ivanovic> what happeend to your laptop that it became unusable?
20110419 15:42:36< nephro_> Well, when I just came here(to BfW channel I mean), I told, that I have this weird semi-broken display, which only works when it is open by almost 180 degrees... Then I had vacation time at home, so I was working on a PC
20110419 15:46:01< Ivanovic> argh, this really sucks!
20110419 15:46:22< Ivanovic> have you asked around at your faculty if another student could lend you a display for some days?
20110419 15:46:47< Ivanovic> (i am confident that it should be possible to find someone able to lend you some display in most computer science faculties)
20110419 15:48:56< nephro_> Ivanovic: well, I've written in my letter to the dept. that a simple monitor would do too... They haven't answered yet. I hope they can give me access to a higher level programming lab, where they have Visual Studios and/or linux, in our labs we only have Python
20110419 15:49:23< Ivanovic> this sucks!
20110419 15:50:08 * Ivanovic is glad that there is some unix (derivate) available on basically all systems at my university, this way you can just ssh into a decent system, even if you have to initially start with eg solaris
20110419 15:50:26< Ivanovic> nephro_: though my recommendation is not talking to the faculty itself but the student body
20110419 15:51:02< Ivanovic> yeah, geeks tend to have some old/spare displays every now and then and might be able to help you (thats what i am confident would work over here somehow)
20110419 15:51:55< nephro_> Oh, all my friends are not from Scotland, all from abroad, so they all have laptops... The guys that live here, well i dunno how to access them, since we have no lectures now
20110419 15:52:25< Ivanovic> ah, okay, no mailing list for the student body?
20110419 15:57:37< nephro_> Only through the same dept. I mean, they can dispatch my letter if they find it necessary
20110419 16:01:00< Ivanovic> ah, okay
20110419 16:01:36< Ivanovic> stuff like "what is achievable using the student body" of course always depends on the size/activity of it (luckily it is rather strong over here)
20110419 16:01:56< Ivanovic> hopefully you are lucky and get some access to either decent computers or a display
20110419 16:04:27< nephro_> Ivanovic: where do you study?
20110419 16:04:50< Ivanovic> dortmund in germany
20110419 16:09:15< nephro_> alrighty, I'll head out to home
20110419 16:09:31< nephro_> good luck everyone
20110419 16:09:40< Crab_> nephro_: bye
20110419 16:09:57< Crab_> nephro_: I'll post a review of the latest changes at the patch page.
20110419 16:10:26< nephro_> Crab_: ? what sorry?
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20110419 16:10:49< nephro_> patch page == gna?
20110419 16:12:13< Crab_> yes
20110419 16:12:39< Crab_> ( https://gna.org/patch/?2638 )
20110419 16:12:50< nephro_> Crab_: review of what then? the last patch I posted? Because I've already read your feedback on it in the logs
20110419 16:13:05< Crab_> I skipped a lot of things on IRC
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20110419 16:14:21< nephro_> Now that is frightening :( Just kidding, I am here mostly to learn the proper ways to do things, and criticism is the most valuable thing around here :)
20110419 16:14:55< nephro_> Crab_: I'll try to come back in the evening(library is an hour away from the flat), around 9 probably to read it up then.
20110419 16:15:09< nephro_> cya then
20110419 16:15:16< Crab_> nephro_: no, no need to be frightened, it's just that we have time to write everything as cleanly as possible.
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20110419 20:20:01< Afan_> Does anyone know what libraries are depending on boost?
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20110419 20:24:14< Disruption> Hi devs!
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20110419 20:29:02< Crab_> hi, Disruption
20110419 20:29:35< Crab_> Afan_: wesnoth depends on some boost libs directly
20110419 20:29:56< Afan_> i look in the library included and didnt see anything
20110419 20:30:07< Afan_> I've included boost but I keep getting linker errors
20110419 20:30:23< Afan_> and its asking me for 1.39 instead of 1.42
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20110419 20:36:51< Crab_> afaik, should work both ways, if you're only using one boost version everywhere
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20110419 20:49:19< timotei> wow, today was so silent around here
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20110419 20:50:19< timotei> Afan_: please use the webchat.freenode.net interface to see if that still disconnects you. Though I think it's a problem from your internet :)
20110419 20:51:25< Afan_> yeah im trying to figure out why im getting random drops, when i used another IRC it said i was connecting through a hamachi IP address but removing that hasnt done anything
20110419 20:51:45< Afan_> also tryed to open a port for IRC
20110419 20:51:57< timotei> Afan_: well, just use that website, I think it uses port 80.
20110419 20:52:02< timotei> and that shouldn't be a problem
20110419 20:52:28< timotei> if that works, then it may be something from other programs that might interfere with the IRC Client
20110419 20:52:49< Afan_> one sec
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20110419 21:07:01< mordante> servus
20110419 21:07:06< fendrin> hi mordante
20110419 21:07:15< timotei> hi mordante 
20110419 21:07:37< mordante> hi fendrin 
20110419 21:07:39< mordante> hi timotei 
20110419 21:15:05< mordante> automagic, did you post a patch somewhere for me to test with boost 1.35?
20110419 21:15:32< automagic> mordante: Hi. I have posted it on the original image modifications patch page.
20110419 21:15:46< mordante> automagic, ah ok, thanks will test
20110419 21:16:00< automagic> https://gna.org/patch/index.php?2633
20110419 21:19:52< mordante> thanks
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20110419 21:36:43< mordante> automagic, your patch seems to make no difference :-( the errors are pasted here http://paste.debian.net/114507/
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20110419 21:44:22< AI0867> fendrin: the branch segfaults in an RB-tree (std::map) related to item overlays
20110419 21:45:44< AI0867> in add_item
20110419 21:46:47< mordante> Afan_, please post your linker errors, then we might be able to help you
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20110419 21:51:42< fendrin> AI0867: How to reproduce?
20110419 21:51:49< AI0867> ./wesnoth -t
20110419 21:52:04< AI0867> I get a segfault before the game loads
20110419 21:53:26< fendrin> AI0867: Thanks, I will fix it.
20110419 21:59:37< mordante> I'm off night
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20110419 22:17:24< CIA-82> ai0867 * r49280 /trunk/src/help.cpp: Use unicode minus rather than the hyphen-minus snprintf generates
20110419 22:17:27< CIA-82> ai0867 * r49279 /trunk/src/help.cpp: Fix two dashes. Requested by Espreon.
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20110419 22:28:02< Espreon> AI0867: It seems that the minus sign still isn't being used in the resistances section. Everything else's fine.
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20110419 22:33:52< fendrin> hi boucman
20110419 22:34:15< AI0867> Espreon: huh? I thought I replaced that...
20110419 22:35:14< Espreon> I still see the regular hyphen-minus. I even twice recompiled...
20110419 22:35:45< boucman> hey all
20110419 22:38:00< CIA-82> espreon * r49281 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Ran wmlindent.
20110419 22:38:53< CIA-82> espreon * r49282 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/utils/terrain.cfg: Removed an old, now-useless comment.
20110419 22:40:07< AI0867> Espreon: I found the problem
20110419 22:40:18< Espreon> Ah, excellent.
20110419 22:40:18< AI0867> != has a higher precedence than =
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20110419 22:56:40< AI0867> Espreon: try again
20110419 22:56:46< CIA-82> ai0867 * r49283 /trunk/src/help.cpp: Fix a precedence-order issue
20110419 22:56:48< CIA-82> ai0867 * r49284 /trunk/src/help.cpp: Fix a reference I missed
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20110419 23:03:15< Espreon> AI0867: Excellent. Thanks. If only the values could be more centered.
20110419 23:03:35< AI0867> compose - - . = en dash, compose - - - = em dash?
20110419 23:04:04< AI0867> how does one make a figure dash? real minus? horizontal bar?
20110419 23:04:53< Espreon> I don't think there are combos for those.
20110419 23:04:56< Espreon> Just make your own.
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20110419 23:05:36< AI0867> yeah, well, I need stuff to copy for that
20110419 23:05:56< AI0867> or just follow my lead with my next commit and add some relevant stuff
20110419 23:06:35< Espreon> Here:
20110419 23:06:44< Espreon> En dash: –
20110419 23:06:48< Espreon> Em dash: —
20110419 23:07:04< Espreon> Figure dash: ‒
20110419 23:07:24< Espreon> Minus sign: −
20110419 23:07:36< Espreon> Horizontal bar: ―
20110419 23:07:38< AI0867> en and em I can do myself, minus already exists
20110419 23:07:57< Espreon> And your combos are right, BTW.
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20110419 23:15:08< AI0867> feh, compiling...
20110419 23:15:16< AI0867> (I'm changing a header)
20110419 23:15:21< AI0867> and it's used.... everywhere...
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20110419 23:29:00 * nephro found shadowmaster in the dev list of Frogatto
20110419 23:29:27< shadowmaster> I was the level designer
20110419 23:29:39< nephro> oh, and Sirp is the lead dev there
20110419 23:29:56< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/projects/frogatto-levels.php
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20110419 23:30:50< nephro> shadowmaster: how do you manage to work in manier os projects? I mean, it is time consuming, especially when you have a job/studies
20110419 23:32:28< shadowmaster> well, atm I only work on Wesnoth as forum admin and in Atheme IRC services as a translator
20110419 23:32:36< shadowmaster> that's not a lot
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20110419 23:58:39< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: what do you think of the possibility of updating wesnoth.org's design? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=33612
20110419 23:59:21< Ivanovic> i'd like to see a concept of this first
20110419 23:59:39< Ivanovic> just some "lets redo it to redo it" sounds strange and wrong to me
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