--- Log opened Mon Apr 25 00:00:04 2011 20110425 00:02:40-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-10-19.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 00:08:15-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20110425 00:20:09-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has quit [] 20110425 00:24:48-!- Wolfram74 [~Wolfram74@173.21.220.204] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 00:25:26-!- Haldrik [~h539152@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110425 00:37:06-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 00:40:31-!- Muad_Dibber [~raymonvw@ip5451aac1.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20110425 00:43:03-!- protodev [~protodev@190.167.35.207] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 00:43:31-!- protodev [~protodev@190.167.35.207] has quit [Client Quit] 20110425 00:52:29-!- KamusHadenes [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has quit [Quit: Portae Tenebrosus Abiciantur, Infinitio! - https://blog.hyadesinc.com] 20110425 00:54:53-!- KamusHadenes [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 01:05:39-!- diederik [~diederik@dhcp-077-248-188-117.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 01:07:21< diederik> Hi, I've recently started playing BfW (version 1.9.5 on Debian) and already spending way too much time on it ;) 20110425 01:08:39< diederik> But I don't get the amount of hitpoints. Description gives say 5/4 melee, but when in battle I see 2/2 20110425 01:09:18< diederik> and this is for a neutral unit (Elvish Fighter) 20110425 01:09:51< diederik> How can I predict the amount of damage a unit will give? 20110425 01:11:07< diederik> Similar things happen when recruiting units: what I get and the description often don't match 20110425 01:11:20-!- KamusHadenes [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110425 01:11:43-!- Tomsik [~Tomsik@bch72.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Fin.] 20110425 01:13:26< diederik> if it matters, I'm playing Heir to the Throne campain on the Seige of Elensefar scenario (but have seen it on other scenarios as well) 20110425 01:15:27< Gambit> diederik: That depends on a number of things. 20110425 01:15:32< Gambit> Time of day is one, but not for your elf. 20110425 01:15:39< Gambit> The other big factor is resistance. 20110425 01:15:51< Gambit> For example your elf's sword does blade type damage. 20110425 01:16:05< Gambit> So if the enemy is resistant to blade they take less damage. 20110425 01:16:13< Gambit> Also if they're in a good time of day, they'll take less damage. 20110425 01:16:52< diederik> lawful unit have +25% in daytime and -25% at night, but haven't considered resistance, thanks 20110425 01:17:28< diederik> is there a formula I can use to calculate the damage wrt resistance? 20110425 01:17:36< Gambit> It's a percentage. 20110425 01:17:59< Gambit> I think if you right click a unit and choose "description" you'll be able to see 20110425 01:18:18< diederik> but with horse type units, they often inflict far more damage then I 'expected' 20110425 01:18:37< Gambit> Also if you hover over your elf's attack I think there's a tool tip that shows the other units' on the fields resistance to that. 20110425 01:18:45< diederik> yes, resitance is described there 20110425 01:18:54< Gambit> diederik: Well resistances can also be the other direction. Units can be weak to certain damage types too. 20110425 01:19:02< Gambit> For example skeletons are weak to fire. 20110425 01:21:54< diederik> taking the Elvish Archer (neutral) as an example, it has 6-4 bow ranged-pierce, but when fighting Skeleton (level 1), it turned out 2-2 in combat 20110425 01:22:46< diederik> according to the description page, resistance is -10% on arcane, the rest is 0% 20110425 01:24:09< diederik> oh, now I'm seeing sth important. Resitance for Skeleton is a different story altogether, it has 60% resistance on that! 20110425 01:24:32< diederik> (on pierce that is) 20110425 01:25:54< diederik> and with white mage they die easily 20110425 01:27:04< diederik> when playing BfW (for a long time?) do you remember those 'details' or do ppl use (side-) for that? 20110425 01:27:57< diederik> Now I'm constantly opening up the description page (which is quite nice, but unfortunatly not movable/sizeble) 20110425 01:28:14< Gambit> diederik: on the side pane there's a tooltip somewhere 20110425 01:28:33< Gambit> it shows the resistance of all the enemies to that particular attack 20110425 01:28:43< Gambit> But I bet there are a lot of people who do have them memorized. 20110425 01:28:54< diederik> it describes some things, but not resistance for example 20110425 01:28:58< ancestral> diederik: There's a web page that has each units' stats 20110425 01:29:13< Gambit> Even if one doesn't know the numbers it's pretty easy to remember if something is good or bad. 20110425 01:29:42< Gambit> For example: skeletons are strong against pierce because there's really nothing on them to pierce. 20110425 01:29:51< diederik> ancestral: in the manual? 20110425 01:30:15< ancestral> http://units.wesnoth.org/1.8/C/mainline.html 20110425 01:30:54< diederik> Gambit: it does make sense (now that you say it) and I've also seen a hint in the game about that (thumbs up for those hints btw) 20110425 01:31:15< diederik> ancestral: thanks! awesome page :) 20110425 01:31:21< ancestral> And this, someday: http://mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/ 20110425 01:32:02< diederik> that's cool :) 20110425 01:32:21< diederik> And I have to say the sounds and music are awesome 20110425 01:32:43< ancestral> It just occurred to me that portraits may be missing from my page… 20110425 01:33:09< ancestral> Adding them back in 20110425 01:34:50< diederik> When opening that link, it showed ancient_lich, but the data was absent, when selecting a unit for the dropdown, they appeared 20110425 01:35:19< diederik> including when switching back to ancient_lich (using Iceweasel/Firefox 4) 20110425 01:35:20< ancestral> Yeah, it's a temporary interface 20110425 01:35:33< ancestral> The drop-down menu 20110425 01:35:42< diederik> Looking promising :) 20110425 01:35:48< ancestral> Thanks! 20110425 01:36:53-!- hagabaka [~hagabaka@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 01:39:55-!- KamusHadenes [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 01:40:01< Hulavuta> Hi 20110425 01:40:21< Hulavuta> Oh I see how it is 20110425 01:40:23< Hulavuta> everyone leaves 20110425 01:40:24< Hulavuta> when I get here 20110425 01:42:08< diederik> Thanks for the help! On to figuring out a strategie to beat those Undead creatures :) 20110425 01:42:31< Hulavuta> As what faction? 20110425 01:42:55< Hulavuta> ok then 20110425 01:43:50-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110425 01:43:55-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 01:45:31< diederik> where can I do suggestions? A movable/resizable help window would be great 20110425 01:45:34-!- KamusHadenes [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110425 01:45:34-!- KamusHadenes[xi] [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 01:45:34-!- KamusHadenes[xi] is now known as KamusHadenes 20110425 01:47:01< ancestral> The help section is actually something that many people are hoping for 20110425 01:47:16< ancestral> (improvements with) 20110425 01:48:24< diederik> I think the help is absolutely great, loads of info (a bit too much for me/starter maybe) 20110425 01:48:46< diederik> But that will 'solve' itself when playing more I guess :P 20110425 01:50:55< diederik> and clickable links on the Resistance section, showing for example units having arcane attacks 20110425 01:53:30< diederik> ancestral: not trying to disagree, but so far I've been impressed by the amount/detail of help 20110425 01:55:38< ancestral> Absolutely, the content 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I didn't have to enter the WML tools directory .. it did it automatically :/ ) 20110425 11:27:24< jiero> I didn't install wesnoth to system 20110425 11:27:32< Crendgrim> okay.. then your WML tools directory should be "/home/jie/Public/Compiling/wesnoth/data/tools" 20110425 11:27:42< jiero> ty 20110425 11:27:42< Crendgrim> I didn't do so either 20110425 11:28:00< Crendgrim> I only inserted the WML executable path and the rest was done by the plugin... 20110425 11:28:02< Crendgrim> well, nevermind 20110425 11:29:11< Crendgrim> oh, actually I've got an old version of the plugin... 20110425 11:29:17< jiero> lol error window, it require me to set python executable path but the window will not close! 20110425 11:29:31< jiero> killed it xD 20110425 11:29:59< Crendgrim> which window? 20110425 11:30:53-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 11:31:16< jiero> error window 20110425 11:31:21< jiero> nvm 20110425 11:32:38< jiero> Crendgrim: could you review my proposal http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwesnoth.cn%2Fthread-1841-1-1.html 20110425 11:33:02< jiero> is that possible to implement in 1.9.x with purely WML 20110425 11:33:17< jiero> the latest post only 20110425 11:35:04< Crendgrim> Actually, I don't really understand Google's translations :( 20110425 11:35:25< Crendgrim> and besides, I'm afraid I'm not competent enough to say what's possible and what isn't. 20110425 11:35:34< Crendgrim> Maybe you should better ask in #wesnoth-dev 20110425 11:37:34< jiero> Soz about that, too much to say so Im lazy O:-) 20110425 11:38:03< jiero> better sort it out in English then ask 20110425 11:40:48-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110425 11:46:05-!- jiero [~jie@115-64-43-246.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #wesnoth [] 20110425 11:47:36-!- hulavuta [~Justin@172.148.88.184.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping 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possible 20110425 16:13:56< zaroth> (I mean light shades of green) 20110425 16:14:05< keb> i dont see an elvish theme int helist 20110425 16:14:08< keb> *the list 20110425 16:15:01< zaroth> Ivanovic: yes, since it integrates with the rest of the site so nicely and someone put effort to make it fit made me wonder why it's not the default ;-) 20110425 16:15:47< keb> maybe forum upgrades have trouble merging with user themes 20110425 16:19:05< Unnheulu> zaroth, shadowmaster doesn't like it 20110425 16:19:08< Unnheulu> And what he says goes 20110425 16:25:35< Espreon> ... of the Wesnoth fora he was lord and governor... 20110425 16:26:21< Tomsik> He just doesn't have anything to do, so he has a lot of time for illuminati plots 20110425 16:27:43< Gambit> Because subsilver2 is deprecated in new phpbb versions. 20110425 16:27:48< Gambit> And wesnoth is based off of subsilver2 20110425 16:28:05< Gambit> A prosilver based Wesnoth theme is welcome if someone would like to make one. 20110425 16:28:37< Gambit> But the broken/working-ness of the subsilver2 and wesnoth themes can no longer be guaranteed. 20110425 16:31:53-!- Kenpachi [~chatzilla@CPE-58-170-84-188.lns2.way.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110425 16:32:07-!- mich- [~michele@87.19.240.45] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 16:35:57-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.191] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110425 16:38:34< Gambit> As for why prosilver has replaced subsilver… you'd have to ask the phpbb devs. 20110425 16:38:54< Gambit> I'd imagine it's a combination of subsilver being uglier, that it uses tables, and that it's uglier. 20110425 16:39:09< keb> i thought prosilver used to be a paid theme 20110425 16:44:05-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.191] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 16:51:58-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 16:53:53-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20110425 16:59:53-!- 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greetings! I got a problem: can't connect to official server; it just prints "Remote host disconnected" 20110425 18:49:40< dougmencken> I tried ~10 times; quitting and re-launching wesnoth 3 times 20110425 18:49:44-!- melinath [~anonymous@ip-168-50.main.oberlin.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 18:49:45< dougmencken> my connection is okay 20110425 18:51:32< Cookiee> dougmencken: the server is down 20110425 18:51:35< Cookiee> so join server 2 20110425 18:52:13< dougmencken> Cookiee: how to do it inside game menu? 20110425 18:52:21< Cookiee> you can do this by clicking 'connect to server' and adding a 2 after the server so it looks like 'server2' 20110425 18:52:37< dougmencken> Cookiee: thank you, trying it now 20110425 18:53:11< dougmencken> ah, I shall read channel topics :) "The main multiplayer server is down for now. Please be patient." Sorry 20110425 18:54:00< Cookiee> yep. we just waiting for someone i guess 20110425 18:54:23< Cookiee> anyways have fun on server! 20110425 18:54:34-!- mich- [~michele@87.19.240.45] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20110425 18:54:37< Cookiee> 'Enjoy your stay' to be exact 20110425 18:54:53< dougmencken> hah, thx 20110425 18:55:05-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-77-168.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 18:55:29< dougmencken> found server2 20110425 18:56:35< dougmencken> "Could not connect to host." and then main menu :( 20110425 18:56:37-!- Coookieee [3cf03696@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.240.54.150] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 18:57:01< dougmencken> what's wrong with wesnoth servers anyway? 20110425 18:58:37< Coookieee> theres 2 different ones i think. well hosted differently 20110425 19:00:01< dougmencken> what's the password? 20110425 19:00:09< Coookieee> my information is kinda old and i dont know if i can retell it correctly :L so im afraid youve got the wrong person to respond now 20110425 19:00:15-!- Unnheulu [~ieuan@host86-147-249-111.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20110425 19:00:24< Coookieee> did you disconnect from server 2? 20110425 19:00:34< dougmencken> Invalid WML recieved: blah-blah 20110425 19:01:09< dougmencken> Cookiee: I'm trying the second time 20110425 19:01:33-!- joo [~joo@unaffiliated/joo] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 19:01:42< Coookieee> okay im on my mac atm so i cant see anything. there should 3 buttons when you open the 'connect to server' button i think 20110425 19:01:48< dougmencken> to connect, I dunno how connection/disconnection is handled by wesnoth 20110425 19:02:13< Coookieee> click the button thats on the right but not the bottom one. 20110425 19:02:17< dougmencken> OK, Password Reminder and Cancel -- 3 buttons 20110425 19:02:17< Coookieee> not join or cancel 20110425 19:02:30< Coookieee> whats this? 20110425 19:02:43< dougmencken> Cookiee: I can screenshot 20110425 19:02:48< Coookieee> okay :L 20110425 19:02:59< Coookieee> link it to me or send by wesnoth forums 20110425 19:03:03< Coookieee> Cookie is the account 20110425 19:03:54-!- noy_ [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 19:04:03< dougmencken> Cookiee: http://93.123.156.139/shot25-04-11_190254.jpg 20110425 19:04:27-!- Alarantalara [~alarantal@CPE001c2599d77d-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #wesnoth [] 20110425 19:06:11< dougmencken> 404 289 "http://93.123.156.139/shot25-04-11_190254.jpg" hmm 20110425 19:06:22< Coookieee> dougmencken: there shouldnt be passwords for server2 :L 20110425 19:06:58-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110425 19:06:58-!- noy_ is now known as noy 20110425 19:07:21< dougmencken> Cookiee: okay, View List, Select -> server2, the same window 20110425 19:07:33< Coookieee> try server3 then? 20110425 19:07:40< dougmencken> okay 20110425 19:07:46< Coookieee> i dunno that doesnt come up for me 20110425 19:07:58< Coookieee> you can try another name and see if that works 20110425 19:08:08< dougmencken> wow, *it* works (server3) ;) 20110425 19:09:22< Coookieee> then why doesnt server2 work 20110425 19:09:33< Coookieee> did you use the same name connecting to server 3? 20110425 19:10:38< dougmencken> Cookiee: yep 20110425 19:10:57< dougmencken> I just open 2v2 game 20110425 19:11:50< Coookieee> theres less people in server3 than server2 20110425 19:12:05< Coookieee> did you use the list for server2? 20110425 19:12:25< dougmencken> Cookiee: ah, so it's 4-hour waiting before playing?.. yep, I used "view list" for server2 20110425 19:13:34-!- Wolfram74 [~Wolfram74@dhcpw80ff9297.dynamic.uiowa.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 19:13:41< Coookieee> im not sure 20110425 19:14:48< dougmencken> as for server2: other nick doesn't play too: Invalid WML recieved: did not find quotes around attribute 20110425 19:15:04< dougmencken> which attribute? which quotes? 20110425 19:17:19-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-77-168.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110425 19:17:20-!- ancestral_ [~ancestral@67-6-77-168.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 19:18:23< dougmencken> maybe it's due to version incompat? I'm using 1.9.5 20110425 19:18:30< Coookieee> ah :L 20110425 19:18:34< Coookieee> no wonder 20110425 19:18:51< dougmencken> what's wrong with my version? it was "must have" on official server 20110425 19:19:10-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110425 19:19:10< Coookieee> no your version is the development version 20110425 19:19:14< Coookieee> it is not stable 20110425 19:19:19< dougmencken> i.e. with 1.9.4 it said "upgrade, please" 20110425 19:19:21< Coookieee> i suggest you download 1.8.5 :L 20110425 19:19:33< Coookieee> yeah 1.9 versions do that 20110425 19:19:35< dougmencken> Coookieee: I can't download, only building 20110425 19:19:48< dougmencken> Coookieee: and on my side, building wesonth is about 10 hours 20110425 19:19:51< Coookieee> whereas 1.8 can connect to everyone in the 1.8 branch to 1 server 20110425 19:19:55< Coookieee> >.> 20110425 19:20:36< ancestral_> Coookieee: Lots of O's and E's today! 20110425 19:20:39< dougmencken> Coookieee: yeah, welcome to fedora-ppc :) 20110425 19:20:45< Coookieee> i suggest you get 1.8 or the stable versions next time. as you only need to upgrade to fix a bug or when theres a new stable version branch 20110425 19:20:57< Coookieee> ancestral_: !!! *hugs* 20110425 19:21:02< ancestral_> Hi! 20110425 19:21:06< Coookieee> well theres Cookiee here too :P 20110425 19:21:27< Coookieee> but shes pretty much my dead bot for now 20110425 19:21:33< ancestral_> Ah 20110425 19:21:49< ancestral_> So some day we could see a Cooookieeee 20110425 19:22:02< dougmencken> Coookiee: who is steve ballmer? 20110425 19:22:12< dougmencken> Cookiee: who is steve ballmer? 20110425 19:22:12< VurtualRuler98> CEO of microsoft 20110425 19:22:18< dougmencken> wow ;) 20110425 19:22:26< ancestral_> Sounds like Cookie Monster saying it 20110425 19:22:31< ancestral_> nomnomnom 20110425 19:22:56< dougmencken> the first thing bot must know is who are linus torvald, steve ballmer, and steve jobs ;) 20110425 19:23:06< Gambit> Coookieee: So… Cookiee is a bot? 20110425 19:23:11< Gambit> dougmencken: really now? 20110425 19:23:12< ancestral_> In college we made a LEGO mindstorms robot 20110425 19:23:17< Gambit> janebot: Who is Steve Ballmer? 20110425 19:23:18< janebot> Gambit: Someone famous, but for all the wrong reasons. 20110425 19:23:29< dougmencken> heh 20110425 19:23:40< ancestral_> We thought it would suck so we called it Steve Botmer 20110425 19:23:40< Gambit> shikadibot: Who is Steve Ballmer? 20110425 19:23:41< shikadibot> Gambit: Sorry, I don't know what "Who is Steve Ballmer" means... 20110425 19:23:58< Coookieee> everyone stfu 20110425 19:24:06< Coookieee> it was a matter of speech 20110425 19:24:10< Coookieee> not really 20110425 19:24:12< Coookieee> =.=" 20110425 19:24:13< ancestral_> janebot: Who is Gambit? 20110425 19:24:14< janebot> ancestral_: A human. OR SO YOU THINK. 20110425 19:24:33< dougmencken> janebot: who is dougmenken? 20110425 19:24:34< janebot> dougmencken: Your mom. 20110425 19:24:38< dougmencken> ;) 20110425 19:24:42< ancestral_> Oedipal 20110425 19:24:53< Coookieee> Gambit: stop making janebot respond in your behalf 20110425 19:25:00< ancestral_> Haha 20110425 19:25:03< Gambit> Coookieee: As if I could type that fast :| 20110425 19:25:11< Coookieee> oh but you can 20110425 19:25:36< Coookieee> you prolly have the command for janebot in copy 20110425 19:25:42< dougmencken> by the way, server3 is happy with newer versions 20110425 19:25:54< Gambit> Messages that fail to match regular expressions for valid commands are passed to and parsed by QMarkAI 20110425 19:26:07< Gambit> dougmencken: Perhaps server2 isn't running a development version server. 20110425 19:26:10< Coookieee> dougmencken: i suggest you move to 1.8 20110425 19:26:26< Coookieee> well have a copy at least 20110425 19:26:29< Coookieee> theres more people 20110425 19:26:35< Coookieee> and you dont crash as much 20110425 19:26:36< dougmencken> I just want "plain" game, without 2lvl units, and "some different rules" (like I once joined) 20110425 19:26:43< Coookieee> things are STABLE 20110425 19:27:01< Coookieee> depends on the game type 20110425 19:27:20< dougmencken> Cookiee: I can get 1.8 not before tomorrow, so I suppose main server will be back earlier than I built 1.8.x and install it 20110425 19:27:29< Coookieee> no 20110425 19:27:45< Coookieee> that really depends when thingy reboots the server 20110425 19:27:50< dougmencken> Cookiee: my machine is 466 MHz, and my platform is not x86 20110425 19:27:52< Coookieee> and who knows when he'll be back 20110425 19:28:03< Coookieee> 32bit? 20110425 19:28:10< dougmencken> Cookiee: teach him auto-rebooting ;) 20110425 19:28:16< dougmencken> Cookiee: 32bit powerpc 20110425 19:28:20< Coookieee> nah its manual 20110425 19:28:37< Gambit> Coookieee: From what I gather, he installed Linux on ancient apple hardware 20110425 19:28:53< Coookieee> Gambit: I dont careee 20110425 19:29:00< Gambit> And the servers don't need restarted. 20110425 19:29:06< Gambit> If it were that simple it'd be fixed already. 20110425 19:29:10< dougmencken> Gambit: not "ancient", ancient is my Performa lying downleft, it's 1996, my current machine is 2002 20110425 19:29:27< Coookieee> Gambit: you dunno about it D: 20110425 19:29:39< Gambit> but computer years == dog years dougmencken! 20110425 19:30:10< dougmencken> Gambit: I think about purchasing A-ONE 20110425 19:30:31< dougmencken> X1000, with 64-bit powerpc CPU 20110425 19:30:42< Gambit> Or… get a real processor? :| 20110425 19:30:57< dougmencken> Gambit: well, I'll *never* buy x86 things 20110425 19:31:29< Gambit> So you waste time with special patches and compiler flags… on principle? 20110425 19:31:44-!- Wolfram74 [~Wolfram74@dhcpw80ff9297.dynamic.uiowa.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20110425 19:32:51-!- Nissarin [~nissarin@91.202.192.6] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 19:32:51< dougmencken> Gambit: yes, I'm versus x86 architecture, I'm versus its domination at least, x86 has nothing to be "the only desktop cpu arch" 20110425 19:33:17< dougmencken> well, ARM rises, so nothing is lost 20110425 19:34:34< ancestral_> Go PowerPC! 20110425 19:34:39< ancestral_> Go RISC! 20110425 19:34:41 * Espreon chuckles 20110425 19:35:05< Espreon> Go Nader! 20110425 19:35:07< dougmencken> I'm avail for private chat, to not to flood #wesnoth with cpu arch stuff ;) 20110425 19:35:15< Gambit> Y U NO SUPPORT STANDARDIZATION? 20110425 19:35:29< Gambit> Standards Are Good™ 20110425 19:35:35< ancestral_> Or where all the action is: in #wesnoth-offtopic 20110425 19:35:42< Gambit> yes. 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Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org | For information on the official multiplayer server outage: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33656 20110425 21:32:20-!- talk2frank [~a@95.157.9.172] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 21:33:11< talk2frank> hi 20110425 21:33:38< talk2frank> i cannot join any 1.8 server 20110425 21:34:07< talk2frank> anyone else facing the same problem? 20110425 21:34:56< talk2frank> oh, dont mind, it worked now after many times i tried 20110425 21:35:32< dougmencken> talk2frank: yeah, main server is dead 20110425 21:35:41< dougmencken> talk2frank: join server3 20110425 21:37:27< talk2frank> main server works, use port 14998 20110425 21:38:15< talk2frank> it took me just like 30 tries to get on it 20110425 21:38:42< dougmencken> talk2frank: how to change port? 20110425 21:41:47< talk2frank> just go to 'connect to server' then select main server and change port 20110425 21:42:17< dougmencken> ok 20110425 21:49:57-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.191] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20110425 21:51:59-!- Octalot [~noct@host109-153-159-115.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 21:52:18-!- dougmencken [~quassel@93.123.156.139] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110425 21:53:20-!- Dragoth_jpn [~Dragoth_j@124.154.19.223] has quit [Quit: See You!] 20110425 21:54:27-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110425 21:54:45-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@79.117.20.237] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 21:54:46-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@79.117.20.237] has quit [Changing host] 20110425 21:54:46-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 21:55:18-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20110425 21:55:54-!- Alarantalara [~alarantal@CPE001c2599d77d-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 21:58:12-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 21:58:14-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has left #wesnoth ["SIGTERM"] 20110425 21:58:18-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110425 22:00:53-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.191] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 22:03:40-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 22:18:57-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110425 22:45:36-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@74-138-202-211.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 22:51:09-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 22:54:27-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@74-138-202-211.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: damn you restarting windows!] 20110425 22:59:18-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@74-138-202-211.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 23:03:39-!- Hulavuta [~Justin@172.148.88.184.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 23:03:43< Hulavuta> Hi 20110425 23:08:44-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-173-219-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110425 23:08:46-!- Unnheulu [~ieuan@host86-147-249-111.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 23:14:49-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@2E6B5DD3.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110425 23:18:04-!- keb [debian-tor@pdpc/supporter/active/keb] has left #wesnoth ["hmm"] 20110425 23:22:37-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20110425 23:23:15-!- Unnheulu [~ieuan@host86-147-249-111.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20110425 23:26:20-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-77-168.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 23:33:25-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-77-168.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Smell ya later!] 20110425 23:43:40-!- KamusHadenes [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20110425 23:45:06-!- KamusHadenes [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 23:45:32-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@74-138-202-211.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: hurray!] 20110425 23:50:17-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has quit [] 20110425 23:51:21-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@74-138-202-211.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #wesnoth 20110425 23:54:51-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-158-45-173.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Tue Apr 26 00:00:09 2011