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20110509 00:48:17< un214> so I'm picking up this weird bug where tag [role] seems to not work
20110509 00:48:25< un214> just some of the time
20110509 00:51:00< CIA-82> espreon * r49447 /trunk/ (61 files in 4 dirs): 'naptha' -> 'naphtha'.
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20110509 00:58:46< CIA-82> espreon * r49448 /trunk/ (14 files in 13 dirs): Updated the British English translation.
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20110509 02:04:06< ancestral> I hope I haven't "jumped the gun" but 1.9.6.dmg (OS X) doesn't mount for me
20110509 02:04:27< ancestral> I checked SHA1 and it's the same
20110509 02:04:47< shadowmaster> ancestral: are you on a PowerPC box?
20110509 02:04:57< ancestral> No, Intel MacBook Pro
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20110509 02:05:38< shadowmaster> I guess Alarantalara would know what's up.
20110509 02:06:01< ancestral> For what it's worth, is clocks in at 274 MB which is considerably less than 1.9.5's 332 MB
20110509 02:08:07< shadowmaster> shikadibot: tag 1.9.6
20110509 02:08:08< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Tag 1.9.6, revision 49435 (ivanovic) on Sun May  8 15:20:43 2011:
20110509 02:08:12< shikadibot> shadowmaster: tagged 1.9.6, using r49433
20110509 02:08:13< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=49435
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20110509 02:15:03< Alarantalara> ancestral: yeah. I got disconnected uploading the file. It's incomplete
20110509 02:15:23< ancestral> The 10.4 dmg looks too small also
20110509 02:15:38< Alarantalara> they both got canceled.
20110509 02:15:55< Alarantalara> I'm reuploading them one at a time
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20110509 02:49:04< Alarantalara> ancestral: it's finally uploaded if you want to get it early
20110509 02:49:23< ancestral> Thanks!
20110509 02:49:53< shadowmaster> Alarantalara: do you want the Mac OS X packager forum title?
20110509 02:50:19< Alarantalara> not really, I like the blue
20110509 02:50:35< shadowmaster> I said title, not color/primary group membership :p
20110509 02:50:44< shadowmaster> There's no packagers group
20110509 02:51:43< Alarantalara> I guess I associeated it with the developers group, since every other packager that I've seen seems to have been one
20110509 02:52:37< shadowmaster> The only other two packagers with titles so happened to be Developers with commit access or system administration access
20110509 02:52:51< shadowmaster> hm, three
20110509 02:53:57< Alarantalara> I suspect a better title would be something Deputy Packager anyway, since I only started doing it because crimson_penguin was looking for someone who hadn't upgraded Xcode
20110509 02:54:14< Alarantalara> and I have the impression that he may take over again in the future
20110509 02:55:07< crimson_penguin> speaking of which, I have downloaded the old XCode again, but I don't yet have a computer to put it on, so... it would be good if you could do this release
20110509 02:59:43< ancestral> Alarantalara, crimson_penguin: Something about how you made the dmg, it unpackaged the contents and made a folder
20110509 03:00:13< ancestral> You may want to try and make the dmg again?
20110509 03:00:37< crimson_penguin> Alarantalara: did you check the "Internet Enable" box? (you shouldn't)
20110509 03:00:42< Alarantalara> that would be my fault
20110509 03:02:00< Alarantalara> it is checked, do I don't remember doing so
20110509 03:02:16< Alarantalara> I'll upload it again (arrgh)
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20110509 03:06:00< Alarantalara> crimson_penguin: is there anything else that I should check before I try this again?
20110509 03:06:51< crimson_penguin> Alarantalara: well, that should be the only thing that would make it expand into a folder, but you could try mounting it anyway
20110509 03:09:23< Alarantalara> it didn't mount into a folder for me with the original version, so I'm not sure how good of a test that is
20110509 03:10:40< Alarantalara> at any rate, it still appears to be fine
20110509 03:12:11< ancestral> Hang on
20110509 03:12:34< ancestral> When I open the application, the background is white (the initial loading screen — should be black I assume)
20110509 03:12:52< ancestral> I can take a screenshot if you’d like
20110509 03:13:34< Alarantalara> It is black for me
20110509 03:13:50< ancestral> Hmm, the third time it loaded correctly
20110509 03:15:57< ancestral> It’s fine now. False alarm, I guess
20110509 03:16:25< Alarantalara> which OS version are you running
20110509 03:18:35< ancestral> 10.6.7
20110509 03:19:52< ancestral> It corrected itself. Maybe it’s a caching issue?
20110509 03:20:14< Alarantalara> no idea, I haven't looked at that much of the C++ code yet
20110509 03:22:39< ancestral> I’m not concerned. If it happens again I’ll submit a bug report
20110509 03:26:13< shadowmaster> The screen is cleared to black on startup -- if that's not happening correctly in some cases then it's some obscure platform-related bug, I'd say.
20110509 03:26:54< shadowmaster> http://pastebin.com/W6JvXgdf
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20110509 04:44:40< Alarantalara> okay, the corrected non-internet version is uploaded
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20110509 04:47:25< Alarantalara> it worked before I uploaded it, but I'll download it anyway to make sure nothing was lost in the process
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20110509 09:02:54< CIA-82> espreon * r49449 /trunk/po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Updated the British English translation.
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20110509 09:18:21< CIA-82> espreon * r49450 /branches/1.8/po/ (9 files in 9 dirs): Updated the British English translation.
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20110509 09:25:00< CIA-82> esr * r49451 /trunk/data/tools/wmllint: Address FR at bug #18047: type_*= and range_*= aren't recognized as keys that should have translation marks.
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20110509 09:43:05< Ivanovic> moin
20110509 09:45:33< CIA-82> caslav_ilic * r49452 /branches/1.8/data/campaigns/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Optimized some localized images.
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20110509 09:45:52< CIA-82> caslav_ilic * r49453 /trunk/data/campaigns/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Optimized some localized images.
20110509 09:46:28< CIA-82> esr * r49454 /trunk/data/ (core/units/khalifate/Hakim.cfg tools/wmllint): 
20110509 09:46:28< CIA-82> Remove an asymmetry.
20110509 09:46:28< CIA-82> SPECIAL_EXTRA_HEAL exists now.
20110509 09:46:49< Espreon> esr: r49451 only adds support for the mainline types and ranges.
20110509 09:47:18< esr> Espreon: I know.  Wildcarding that is would be kind of nasty.
20110509 09:47:29< esr> s/that is/that list/
20110509 09:49:10< Espreon> Maybe add support for a directive or something? IDK. I don't like wmllint bitching about problems that aren't.
20110509 09:50:05< esr> Let's establish that there's an actual problem first.  What UMC instances are there?
20110509 09:50:40< Espreon> EoMa: range_kamikaze
20110509 09:51:03< Espreon> TE: range_long_ranged
20110509 09:51:29< Espreon> NoM: type_arcane_focus
20110509 09:51:44< esr> Ugh.
20110509 09:52:42< Espreon> FtF: range_bombard
20110509 09:52:45< Espreon> Yup.
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20110509 10:12:32< shadowmaster> yay, I came back from an acid trip
20110509 10:12:39< shadowmaster> er, s/acid/Ubuntu/
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20110509 10:34:01< CIA-82> esr * r49455 /trunk/data/tools/wmllint: Try to wildcaede range_* and type_* checks for translation marks.
20110509 10:35:17< esr> Espreon: You can't have embedded underscores, alas.  There's something called type_adv_tree in the help system that becomes a false positive withj unrestricted wildcarding.
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20110509 10:49:34< Espreon> 'K.
20110509 10:50:04< Espreon> esr: Thanks for handling that.
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20110509 14:29:49< covale> anyone who's good at lore, are there any non-breeder females among the drakes? I'm trying to translate into Swedish and it's help to know
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20110509 14:38:43< CIA-82> ivanovic * r49457 /branches/1.8/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-lib/pl.po): updated Polish translation
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20110509 15:24:05< Alarantalara> I've finally uploaded a copy of 1.9.6 that still works on OS X 10.4. The one for 10.5+ that uses openmp was uploaded last night.
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20110509 15:24:30< Alarantalara> I supposed the download count for the 10.4 one will answer the question as to how many people still use it
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20110509 16:42:28< happygrue> does anyone know if addons will conflict in stable if two different addons have units of the same id name with different stats?
20110509 16:42:42< happygrue> it seems they do, but is that a known problem, rather?
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20110509 16:56:21< Ivanovic> this is known by design
20110509 16:56:41< Ivanovic> the reason why stuff, where possible, should be guarded with those #ifdef thingies
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20110509 17:04:15< CIA-82> ivanovic * r49458 /trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): updated Portuguese (Brazil) translation
20110509 17:06:02< happygrue> Ivanovic: thanks.
20110509 17:06:43< Ivanovic> so yeah, for multiplayer this *will* be an issue, for singleplayer campaigns it should not happen
20110509 17:06:54< Ivanovic> (due to the include of the units being guarded)
20110509 17:07:37< happygrue> hmm
20110509 17:08:15< happygrue> so changing unit ids so that they are very unlikely to conflict is about the best option?
20110509 17:21:04< Crendgrim> monochromatic: ping
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20110509 17:24:30< zookeeper> happygrue, yes. especially if one copies units from another MP add-on, they should always change the id's if they do any changes to the units. and probably even if they don't.
20110509 17:24:50< happygrue> zookeeper: thanks
20110509 17:25:38< happygrue> I think the problem was my own era - originally it was released as default + Kalifa, but I deleted it and released a new one with the changed name not long afer, but some people had alread downloaded it.  I should have changed the ids.
20110509 17:25:46< happygrue> possible there are other conflicts too I guess
20110509 17:33:36< monochromatic> Crendgrim: will you be around in 5 hours?
20110509 17:34:13< Crendgrim> monochromatic: don't think so. At least not adressable any more... ;)
20110509 17:34:20< Crendgrim> which timezone do you live in?
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20110509 17:34:32< monochromatic> EST
20110509 17:34:55< Crendgrim> is that UTC-5?
20110509 17:37:11< monochromatic> I believe so.
20110509 17:37:31< Crendgrim> then we're 7 hours apart... quite bad.
20110509 17:37:43< Crendgrim> when will you be online tomorrow?
20110509 17:38:11< monochromatic> I'll be always online, just afk.
20110509 17:38:26< monochromatic> Probably.. Hm, let me get the UTC.
20110509 17:39:12< monochromatic> Well screw that.
20110509 17:39:33< monochromatic> basically around 24 hrs from now. :)
20110509 17:39:59< monochromatic> for maybe 1 or 2 hrs, then I have to go out for the rest of the day.
20110509 17:40:25< Crendgrim> okay.. I think that'll be enough to exchange ideas at least
20110509 17:40:33< monochromatic> :)
20110509 17:40:37< Crendgrim> see you then :)
20110509 17:40:58< monochromatic> If I happen to be not there, query me with a list of stuff. We
20110509 17:41:03< monochromatic> 'll find time eventually.
20110509 17:42:00< Crendgrim> probably, yes
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20110509 17:55:41< Nephro> Can someone, please, help me with debugging wesnoth on linux? The wesnoth screen goes black when I try to attach to it from KDevelop... It also acted like that when I used gdb from console
20110509 17:57:51< shadowmaster> the "c" ("cont") gdb command resumes execution
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20110509 17:59:27< Nephro> shadowmaster: I tried that in gdb, still it hung somehow... But it seems I got it to work in KDevelop, so I'll work there, it still feels more comfortable with GUI, than CLi
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20110509 19:33:15< Nephro> Why would we prefer to use "char const *code" over std::string ?
20110509 19:34:17< loonycyborg> For a string that never gets copied/modified but only passed around.
20110509 19:34:24< shadowmaster> There are occasions in which STL strings are too complex and heavy for some purposes, such as interfacing with C library or system calls, too
20110509 19:34:47< Nephro> Ok, thank you
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20110509 19:53:57< Rhonda> Ivanovic: But I'm waiting for 1.8.6, not 1.9.6 …
20110509 19:54:17< Ivanovic> Rhonda: ah, the last dev release was too long ago, too!
20110509 19:54:36< Ivanovic> so yeah, 1.8.6 is still planned for "middle of the week"
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20110509 20:13:40< Nephro> wesbot: seen Crab_
20110509 20:13:41< wesbot> Nephro: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 22h 35m ago.  22h 1m ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
20110509 20:14:20< Crendgrim> monochromatic: (just leaving a note) we *must* think about something to prevent spambots. I already banned 5 of them today. :/
20110509 20:15:14< shadowmaster> You could probably ask Crab_ to implement a home-made solution similar to what cycholka did for the forums.
20110509 20:16:51< Crendgrim> shadowmaster: what did cycholka?
20110509 20:17:05< Nephro> cycholka is a pretty fun name if you know ukranian
20110509 20:17:20< Nephro> (or it might be a coincidence)
20110509 20:17:44< shadowmaster> The "security" code consisting of the first three characters from the registree's username and the last three characters from their password.
20110509 20:17:56< Crendgrim> ah.. okay...
20110509 20:18:01< Crendgrim> well, something alike would be useful
20110509 20:18:11< shadowmaster> I mean bytes, not characters. Something I need to fix some day.
20110509 20:18:32< shadowmaster> Of course, the kids watching us at home won't commit that mistake and will write UTF-8-safe code instaed.
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20110509 20:25:32< Gambit> Crazy bug report on the forums. Something goes wrong when playing in Finnish: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=33770
20110509 20:25:52< Gambit> The game displays that no objectives are available.
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20110509 20:46:50< Soliton> it'd be helpful to know the "error messages, that we don't see in English version, on the top of the map."
20110509 20:47:13< Soliton> probably some lua error.
20110509 20:51:37< Crendgrim> Soliton: Just start the campaign in Suomi.
20110509 20:51:58< Crendgrim> Soliton: http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2711/suomierror.png
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20110509 20:55:15< boucman> hey ll
20110509 20:55:17< boucman> all
20110509 20:55:47< Crendgrim> and when I start Wesnoth 1.9.5 in Suomi, there are many "error gui/layout" messages concerning a broken text layout ("<I>...</i>")
20110509 20:56:04< Crendgrim> s/text layout/text markup
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20110509 20:58:05< Soliton> looks like messed up pango markup.
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20110509 21:09:59< Ivanovic> Soliton: have you already updated the server to only accept 1.9.6?
20110509 21:10:06< Ivanovic> will work on the announcement post now
20110509 21:10:20< Soliton> Ivanovic: nope, but it's a command away.
20110509 21:10:21< Ivanovic> we got sources, windows and mac binaries
20110509 21:10:33< Soliton> ok, announcing on the server then.
20110509 21:16:17< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: is the text for the osx package okay? http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Download#Development_.281.9_branch.29
20110509 21:20:09< Alarantalara> It looks right to me. I could quibble that the 10.4 should be 10.4+, but it's insignificant
20110509 21:22:23< shadowmaster> Did I remove the flattr link from the home page accidentally or someone else did it?
20110509 21:23:40< shadowmaster> oh hm. it's there.
20110509 21:23:52< shadowmaster> it just isn't working for some reason
20110509 21:24:48< shadowmaster> ah, flattr is down.
20110509 21:25:00< Gambit> Too bad it has to have a silly counter on it.
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20110509 21:25:14< Gambit> Ideally one would keep a copy of it.
20110509 21:25:50< Gambit> Still I guess it's nice that it's hidden when it won't actually work.
20110509 21:25:53< shadowmaster> The main thing is that it's hidden via CSS by default and only enabled through javascript that's hosted by their servers
20110509 21:26:24< shadowmaster> great minds think alike, huh?
20110509 21:26:59< shadowmaster> http://blog.flattr.net/2011/05/working-on-updating-flattr/
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20110509 21:28:19< Ivanovic> announcement forum post: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=33801
20110509 21:28:27 * shadowmaster dumps a lot of traffic on it.
20110509 21:28:33< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: you might want to post in there about the osx binary and asking for feedback
20110509 21:29:19< CIA-82> ivanovic * r49459 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: post release cleanup
20110509 21:29:21< Alarantalara> Definitely
20110509 21:29:59< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: on the frontpage i will only link the osx10.5+ binary though
20110509 21:30:57< Alarantalara> That makes sense. Any possibility of text in the news announcement so 10.4 users know to look for it?
20110509 21:34:35< Alarantalara> Ivanovic: just noticed a reference to the current versoin being 1.9.5 in the forum post (first paragraph)
20110509 21:34:36< Crendgrim> congratulations to all of you :)
20110509 21:35:16< Ivanovic> fixed the reference
20110509 21:36:21< shadowmaster> "hey are fully playable but are still lacking unit descriptions some aesthetic components such as attack animations."
20110509 21:36:41< shadowmaster> "hey" is my own typo. The real one is the lack of "and" between "descriptions" and "some"
20110509 21:37:39< fendrin> And some weapon images.
20110509 21:38:06< fendrin> Currently the elvish bow represents the compound bow.
20110509 21:38:38< Ivanovic> okay, updated the frontpage
20110509 21:38:44< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: mentioned osx10.4 there
20110509 21:38:54< Ivanovic> fendrin, shadowmaster: feel free to update the announcement post
20110509 21:39:05< Ivanovic> the main part of it is taken from the RELEASE_NOTES file!
20110509 21:39:29< fendrin> Mentioning it might motivate an artist.
20110509 21:39:35< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: you know we know that
20110509 21:40:23< shadowmaster> it's very easy to miss mistakes like these until I have a real web page in front of me, though. Anyway, fixed.
20110509 21:41:24-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.8.6 planned for 11th May; string freeze for branches/1.8 | 206 bugs, 316 feature requests, 24 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20110509 21:41:57< anonymissimus> timotei: what was your command for your original checkout with msysgit for wesnoth trunk ? it seems it's checking out every single revision since the project has been hosted at gna and that it'll last for days :P
20110509 21:42:07< Alarantalara> Ivanovic: thank you!
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20110509 21:45:45< Soliton> anonymissimus: git tarball is on files.wesnoth.org/hidden/git if that's what you're asking.
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20110509 21:52:05< anonymissimus> Soliton: I don't think thats what I'm asking and I think I dont need it but thx anyway
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20110509 21:53:29< anonymissimus> well no; I probably need a way to limit the range of "local history revision" which are checked out; I recall reading something about that stuff
20110509 21:57:18< Alarantalara> Ivanovic: re: post about osx binary. I've added a post that I think covers everything. I didn't explicitly ask for feedback since I'm sure that any angry 10.4 users will post without my asking
20110509 21:57:44< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: really?
20110509 21:57:47< anonymissimus> what is that git "tarball", is it a local git repository, downloadable, so that I'd have a local repository in sync with the remote repository at once ?
20110509 21:58:04< Alarantalara> I did sya that it was likely the last 10.4 release
20110509 21:58:13< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: there are many users with bugreports saying stuff like "hey, everyone knew that" where our reply often was "but no dev!"
20110509 21:58:32< Ivanovic> just because something is broken does not mean that the users will also talk about it
20110509 21:58:48< Ivanovic> (so the feedback is also directed to the new package stuff with multithreading support)
20110509 21:59:27< anonymissimus> (ok, maybe it was what I was asking for...)
20110509 21:59:38< Ivanovic> often there is some "hey, this error is *so* obvious, you have to know about it!!!" attitude in users
20110509 22:00:47< Alarantalara> But didn't you ask for feedback concerning openmp in the original post?
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20110509 22:05:34< fendrin> Ivanovic: Don't you think we could do another 1.8 release if the next stable will be ready not before xmas?
20110509 22:10:49< Soliton> we could do another 1.8 release if there was something to release...
20110509 22:11:01< Ivanovic> fendrin: you mean after 1.8.6 on wednesday?
20110509 22:11:23< Ivanovic> fendrin: considering that there are close to no changes in the 1.8.x series: why`
20110509 22:11:27< Ivanovic> s/`/?
20110509 22:12:04< fendrin> Just a last bugfix release to make the 1.8 line rather perfect.
20110509 22:12:43< Soliton> that's what 1.8.6 is.
20110509 22:12:43< fendrin> I think there will be some things to fix before xmas. Still half an year to pass by...
20110509 22:13:10< Alarantalara> there could be more translations completed
20110509 22:13:25< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: unlikely since most teams started working on 1.9.x
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20110509 22:25:59< zookeeper> fendrin, "There are some units in Wesnoth not marked with "loyal" but don't require you to pay upkeep." <- AFAIK that really only happens in LoW and maybe some of the other "new" mainline campaigns.
20110509 22:26:57< fendrin> zookeeper: No, every leader does not cost any upkeep but is not marked loyal.
20110509 22:27:35< zookeeper> yes, of course. i don't think anyone was referring to leaders.
20110509 22:27:41< fendrin> zookeeper: That is true for Olurf as well. He can recruit, so he is marked with the crown. I don't remember a leader in any mainline campaign who is marked loyal as well.
20110509 22:27:57< fendrin> And most of the "hero" units are loyal as well but not marked as such.
20110509 22:28:05< fendrin> Throughout all Wesnoth campaigns.
20110509 22:28:08< zookeeper> oh, he's a regular (secondary) leader? well, nevermind then, i didn't know that.
20110509 22:28:55< zookeeper> most of the hero units are marked as loyal though. if you see someone who isn't, tell me :p
20110509 22:29:00< fendrin> At least he needs to be a hero in singleplayer.
20110509 22:31:15< fendrin> I would like to mark every unit that costs no upkeep with the trait.
20110509 22:31:29< fendrin> But that means that the unit can only have one more regular trait.
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20110509 22:33:12< boucman> fendrin: do you want to add a crown to all bats ? :P
20110509 22:33:33< fendrin> :-)
20110509 22:33:46< fendrin> There are no lvl0 units in LoW.
20110509 22:33:54< shadowmaster> anyone wants to confirm whether new accounts registration in forums.wesnoth.org still works?
20110509 22:34:09< fendrin> And there is no need to do so for the "crowned" units.
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20110509 22:34:59< shadowmaster> nvm, I managed to convince my local install that my email address is valid
20110509 22:35:06< Crendgrim> shadowmaster: are multi accounts allowed?
20110509 22:35:26< shadowmaster> what's a multi account?
20110509 22:35:57< Crendgrim> two accs for one person
20110509 22:36:07< shadowmaster> if by person you mean email address, yes
20110509 22:36:29< Crendgrim> by person I mean person.
20110509 22:37:12< shadowmaster> sockpuppetry can be practiced with a single person owning multiple email addresses elsewhere
20110509 22:38:07< Crendgrim> well, it can be managed. The question was about whether it's allowed or no ;)
20110509 22:38:31< timotei> anonymissimus: checkout single revision from start??? well, you need to download the git repo stored in the hidden files xD
20110509 22:38:49< shadowmaster> it's allowed for the purpose of MP registration, but I've got no qualms with banning users if I find them talking to themselves in the forums.
20110509 22:39:15< Crendgrim> "sockpuppetry" ... that's another time when a pseudo-english word in german ("multi account") proves being non-english..
20110509 22:39:20< Crendgrim> shadowmaster: alright, thanks :)
20110509 22:39:22< timotei> anonymissimus: the git tarball is a checkout of a certain svn repo... so you don't have to wait for downloading all revision from the first one xD
20110509 22:40:50< shadowmaster> clone, not checkout
20110509 22:41:11< shadowmaster> in fact, the checkout is missing from the tarball
20110509 22:41:56< timotei> hmm, yeah clone
20110509 22:42:07< timotei> though I don't see the difference between a clone and a checkout for that matter
20110509 22:42:29< timotei> yay, from 22% HDD fragmentation down to 18%
20110509 22:42:34< Gambit> Well using one term will make pedants correct you, and using the other one will not.
20110509 22:42:39< shadowmaster> the checkout is more like the working tree
20110509 22:42:53< timotei> Gambit: I don't mind getting corrected :)
20110509 22:43:01< timotei> shadowmaster: oh. right
20110509 22:43:06< Gambit> timotei: Interestingly I got corrected on this exact thing just yesterday.
20110509 22:43:12< shadowmaster> the git-svn tarball doesn't have a prepared working tree to avoid redundancy. You need to reset to a branch manually
20110509 22:43:28< timotei> yep
20110509 22:43:44< timotei> well, that was my first learned git command: git reset --hard
20110509 22:43:54< timotei> or git reset HEAD --hard
20110509 22:45:14< timotei> fendrin: I'm back in bussiness. Starting yesterday I'm working on trying to get eclipse built headless :)
20110509 22:47:07< fendrin> timotei: Nice to see you again.
20110509 22:47:37< timotei> at last closed for real my longest (in term of comments) bug reportxD
20110509 22:48:30< fendrin> I have accumulated a lots of bugs assigned to me. Must get rid of them.
20110509 22:48:42< timotei> :)
20110509 22:49:20< timotei> well, I'm out
20110509 22:49:21< timotei> good night
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20110509 23:00:05< fendrin> Ivanovic: Can I close invalid bugs right away?
20110509 23:00:23< Ivanovic> fendrin: yeah
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20110509 23:40:05< fendrin> zookeeper: Do you know of a scenario objective along the line "Force the enemies to retreat"?
20110509 23:47:33< zookeeper> fendrin, no
20110509 23:48:27< zookeeper> sounds like something that'd be a nightmare to try to get to work properly.
20110509 23:50:03< fendrin> Yeah, if you expect the ai to flee on reaction to a superior player on it's own.
20110509 23:52:34< fendrin> In the case of the scenario where I need the objective it is hardcoded to the numbers of unit that remain on the field.
20110509 23:54:35< zookeeper> well then it seems better to make the objective something like "no enemy units on the south side of the road" or "control at least 20/22 villages" or something like that
20110509 23:54:54< zookeeper> anyways, i gotta go, i can talk about this more tomorrow if you want...
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