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20110526 00:00:19< zaroth> Crab_: woah, that's scary. So we're talking about a brand new do_gameloop() function, right?
20110526 00:00:57< zaroth> why is it desired?
20110526 00:02:06< zaroth> from what I have seen, it doesn't have much to do with actual parsing, defining and choosing stuff
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20110526 00:03:56< Crab_> because in the process of doing so, or in the process of considering doing so, you'll see the difference between your way of seeing it and the current implementation way
20110526 00:03:57< zaroth> but if I understood your point correctly, then just changing this would be sufficient: to call new_syntax_new_campaign() instead of that 
20110526 00:03:58< zaroth> else if(res == gui2::ttitle_screen::NEW_CAMPAIGN) {
20110526 00:04:00< zaroth> 			if(game.new_campaign() == false)
20110526 00:04:43< zaroth> yes, probably starting from the very roots would be educational, instead of trying to move a deeply rooted tree...
20110526 00:05:23< Crab_> so, for example, you'll be able to conclude that your new gameloop function would be similar enough to the old gameloop function to be handled by same code, if you abstract a few things away
20110526 00:05:46< Crab_> as a good side effect, your new function would live in a 'correct' place for it
20110526 00:07:10< CIA-94> espreon * r49653 /trunk/po/ (10 files in 10 dirs): Updated the Old English translation.
20110526 00:08:42< zaroth> hmm... I'm not sure if a simple callback function for a button from title screen can have a better place to live than within game_controller
20110526 00:08:58< Crab_> zaroth: for example, when speaking of do_gameloop, if you're happy with its current form, what if you make a abstract base class out of game_controller ?
20110526 00:09:22< zaroth> however, this callback function could use some changes, certainly, such as creating game_instance
20110526 00:09:31< Crab_> so, the do_gameloop will call the callbacks, but the actual implementation of game_controller would be dependent on the command-line stuff.
20110526 00:10:04< Crab_> so, the do_gameloop would have a smart pointer to base game_controller, and one of two implementations would be picked
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20110526 00:10:38< zaroth> do you think it's reasonable to make the current game_controller the parent of the new, extended one?
20110526 00:10:48< Crab_> no
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20110526 00:10:52< zaroth> or should I rather try to abstract what's possible
20110526 00:11:04< Crab_> I recommend using an interface and two implementations
20110526 00:11:27< Crab_> and if two implementations have common things, move them to helper classes
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20110526 00:11:58< Crab_> for example, game_controller::start_wesnothd
20110526 00:12:04< zaroth> can they share variables?
20110526 00:12:18< Crab_> do they need ?
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20110526 00:12:30< Crab_> they need to share interface to be called from same place
20110526 00:12:40< zaroth> that is, should I totally refrain from putting any variables in the abstract parent class?
20110526 00:12:57< zaroth> yes, slim_game_controller will have a lot less than the current one
20110526 00:13:06< zaroth> but it doesn't mean that it will have none
20110526 00:13:32< zaroth> but well... maybe you're right, not sharing them will make the new implementation cleaner
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20110526 00:13:58< Crab_> sharing is ok
20110526 00:14:03< Crab_> just don't start with 'share all'
20110526 00:14:09< Crab_> pull down what you need to share.
20110526 00:14:29< Crab_> and start with a clean class
20110526 00:14:34< zaroth> and since you said something about helper classes
20110526 00:14:49< zaroth> I'm not sure how to achieve it with C++
20110526 00:15:06< zaroth> what if the functions that need to be shared need to access private members?
20110526 00:15:11< zaroth> do I friend them?
20110526 00:15:22< zaroth> (the helper class and controller)
20110526 00:15:45< zaroth> or do I pass everything as reference params?
20110526 00:16:09< zaroth> (everything that needs to be changed, that is)
20110526 00:16:23< zaroth> (if it doesn't, it can be a const ref param ;-) )
20110526 00:19:31< Crab_> pass as const ref
20110526 00:19:42< Crab_> usually, a good helper function won't need access to much state
20110526 00:19:46< zaroth> Crab_: the way that helper playcampaign.cpp functions do it, I would say the second way is currently used (refs)... however, it's no class, just a bunch of functions
20110526 00:19:52< Crab_> otherwise, it'd be more in line as a member function
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20110526 00:21:59< Valkier> Quick question for you code guys: If you know nothing about programming, where would you start to learn it?
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20110526 00:22:21< zaroth> ha! so if both game_controller and new_game_controller need a helper function that uses the members that happen to be common, I should just move them to the abstract class! thanks, that's what I wanted to hear :-)
20110526 00:22:31< zaroth> s/them/it/
20110526 00:23:06< zaroth> Valkier: I'd start with python, and hey, the python tutorial in standard library is quite good :-)
20110526 00:23:23< Crab_> zaroth: or make it a helper class and move members to it. depends on what the members used are.
20110526 00:23:58< zaroth> ok, I'll have a try at this tomorrow, thanks a lot
20110526 00:24:07< Crab_> Valkier: I'd start with C, but only code simple math console stuff for a while.
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20110526 00:24:23< zaroth> that's also an idea
20110526 00:24:47< Crab_> Valkier: i.e., 'if we got a AX=B equation, and we know A and B, how we find X?'
20110526 00:24:55< zaroth> (after all, I also started with C)
20110526 00:25:19< zaroth> and I would recommend signing up on a programming website
20110526 00:25:39< zaroth> such as http://www.spoj.pl/
20110526 00:25:53< zaroth> which has many programming problems for beginners and allows you to submit your code
20110526 00:26:24< zaroth> seeing how the code you produced makes many green lights appear can be really rewarding, especially for a beginner :-)
20110526 00:27:44< zaroth> http://www.spoj.pl/problems/classical/ - most of these from the beginning of the list are really simple
20110526 00:29:21< zaroth> but well, if you don't care about learning programming "properly" (i.e. starting from C and algorithms) and just want to get some windows and other things quickly working, python is unbeatable with this :-)
20110526 00:29:41< zaroth> good night!
20110526 00:30:23< Valkier> All righty. Thanks guys. :D
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20110526 01:37:25< [Relic]> Hello :)
20110526 01:41:49< anonymissimus> anyone know what's the name of "KDevelop" in the ubuntu repositories ? cant find it
20110526 01:42:25< shadowmaster> it's kdevelop in Debian stable
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20110526 01:46:49< [Relic]> kdevelop by the looks of it
20110526 01:47:50< shadowmaster> Most certainly. http://shadowm.ai0867.net/pkg.png
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20110526 07:43:03< Rhonda> damn, I'm far too little logged in on gna
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20110526 08:29:33< shadowmaster> shikadibot: dir tags/
20110526 08:29:34< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Web interface URL to dir tags: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/tags
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20110526 09:21:51< Ivanovic> moin
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20110526 12:19:21< Nephro> Hi. I've encountered a weird error. std::string value = cfg["key"]; generates an error, although when I used this syntax in a different file, it worked fine.
20110526 12:20:00< Nephro> Someone also told me, that this isn't the right way to access config attributes, can someone point me out on what would be the right way?
20110526 12:22:38< Nephro> Oh, and std::string value = cfg["key"] - compiles and works fine.
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20110526 13:44:43< Crab_> Nephro: for cfg["key"], you can avoid doing a copy if you don't need it. one approach is something like const config::attribute_value *v = cfg.get("key")
20110526 13:46:06< Nephro> Crab_, hi. Finishing the cleanup on aspects. Can you give me a hint how this http://ideone.com/CAiKa can be rewritten shorter/more elegant/more beatiful? AFAIK, typedefs can't handle templates.
20110526 13:46:26< Crab_> they can, with a bit of help
20110526 13:47:19< Nephro> macro magic?
20110526 13:47:29< Crab_> i.e. http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/src/ai/game_info.hpp?view=markup
20110526 13:48:54< Nephro> got it
20110526 13:51:14< Crab_> the code  looks good enough for me already
20110526 13:51:48< Nephro> yeah, but it looks very large, comparing to what it actually does :)
20110526 13:52:12< Crab_> look not at the amount of code, but on the amount of duplication
20110526 13:52:47< Crab_> (have to go now)
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20110526 14:08:48< CIA-94> rhonda * r49656 /website/gettext.wesnoth.org/bin/update-gettext-stats: Add -q option to svn calls so we can drop >/dev/null 2>&1 from cronjob
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20110526 15:37:08< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: since you updated the Codeblocks-scons files revently: where is the "Makefile" specified in the settings ? Nothing in the whole trunk seems to match
20110526 15:37:24< Crendgrim> Soliton: ping
20110526 15:38:28< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: It's irrelevant in any case. Only the command matters.
20110526 15:41:32< anonymissimus> which command from where ?
20110526 15:44:53< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: In project properties it's possible to set command lines that will be used to build projects.
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20110526 15:48:58< loonycyborg> I've set those commands to be 'scons ...' so it gets used you request the project to be built from gui.
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20110526 15:51:57< anonymissimus> when I attemp doing that 1. it lasts forever; 2. it says only project up to date ab ceases even though it should launch wesnoth; 3. when it sometimes launches with gdb, and I want to return to the mainscreen, wesnoth becomes black screen and stays it forever; 4. when using the "compile current file" command there's only an error immediately and and and
20110526 15:56:08< anonymissimus> and what you're suggesting would modify the project file if I understand so it'd show up as modified in git even though I don't want to commit it, that's not ideal
20110526 15:58:56< loonycyborg> "compile current file" worked for me before but it apparently got broken in newer codeblocks versions.
20110526 15:59:25< loonycyborg> But otherwise build seems to work fine.
20110526 16:00:06< loonycyborg> And I don't see why would it want to modify projectfiles.
20110526 16:11:45< anonymissimus> "In project properties it's possible to set command lines": that modifies the project file (everything in "project properties")
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20110526 16:13:50< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: Huh? This change is already committed.
20110526 16:16:58< loonycyborg> I just changed project properties to call scons and committed the resulting .cbp file.
20110526 16:19:43< loonycyborg> Even stepping through code with debugger in gui seems to work.
20110526 16:20:21< anonymissimus> try going back to mainscreen
20110526 16:20:29< anonymissimus> in wesnoth
20110526 16:20:48< loonycyborg> Only "compile current file" doesn't. It was rather hackish in the first place and I don't need it anyway.
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20110526 16:23:34< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: You were trying to get to mainscreen at the moment it was halted?
20110526 16:23:44< anonymissimus> yes
20110526 16:24:01< loonycyborg> afaik it's the way it should be.
20110526 16:24:10< loonycyborg> Since redrawing is halted too.
20110526 16:29:33< anonymissimus> same for loading a savegame (becomes black screen); the cache loading phase is way way faster than in the VS debugger so it compensates a bit for that
20110526 16:29:59< anonymissimus> that's useful for reproducing crashes
20110526 16:30:23< anonymissimus> but not for other debuggin types when no crash is supposed to occur
20110526 16:32:32< loonycyborg> Switching to and from seems to work fine when it's not stopped on a breakpoint/frozen by stepping through.
20110526 16:35:29< anonymissimus> yes; after launching the debugger, click on "load game"
20110526 16:36:19< anonymissimus> yes; after launching the debugger, click on "load game", and then cancel, that makes wesnoth black window (for example)
20110526 16:37:00< anonymissimus> sine at every lauch code blocks needs a minute or so for doing apparently nothing that's bad
20110526 16:39:30< loonycyborg> It just seems to outright freeze it.
20110526 16:42:12< loonycyborg> And it doesn't happen with command-line gdb.
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20110526 16:42:29< anonymissimus> anyway, I suppose I am not supposed to use an interactive debugger anyway I guess, or what are the log domains for then ?
20110526 16:43:55< anonymissimus> I dont know how to interactively set breakpoints there, once the program has launched from command line gdb I can no longer type any gdb commands
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20110526 16:44:38< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: It works after cancel for me if I choose continue from the debug menu.
20110526 16:44:50< loonycyborg> Why it stops is anyone's guess.
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20110526 16:46:26< Soliton> Crendgrim: pong
20110526 16:46:56< Crendgrim> Soliton: ah, hi :) 
20110526 16:47:41< Crendgrim> Soliton: regarding bug 18152 ... you wrote there I should test it without "libana". What is that, actually?
20110526 16:47:47< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: Using 'break' command you can set a breakpoint in some point of interest.
20110526 16:47:52< Crendgrim> I searched for it on my system and couldn't find it..
20110526 16:49:38< Soliton> it's a library that comes with wesnoth. check the build system you use for the option to disable it.
20110526 16:49:55< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: You can also start the program and break on first line using 'start' instead of 'run'
20110526 16:50:25< Soliton> as a general note you could have asked that right away instead of the ping-pong game and many other people could have answered you.
20110526 16:51:13< loonycyborg> For the break command the syntax is for example 'break somesource.cpp:42' where 42 is line number.
20110526 16:51:31< Crendgrim> sorry, I didn't even imagine it could be delivered within Wesnoth :/ 
20110526 16:54:35< Crendgrim> Soliton: hm... in the SConstruct file I can only find "use_network_ana" .. is that the correct variable?
20110526 16:55:59< anonymissimus> the gdb shell is disabled as soon as wesnoth is running
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20110526 16:58:21< anonymissimus> and of course, I usually don't know points of interest in such way to be able to type break <some file>
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20110526 17:03:18< loonycyborg> Crendgrim: Yes.
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20110526 17:07:13< {V}> anonymissimus, hit ctrl-c while wesnoth is running under gdb, then set your breakpoints, type: continue
20110526 17:08:22< {V}> (or just c)
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20110526 17:32:06< Ivanovic> Rhonda: any idea what is up with the cronjob for g.w.o?
20110526 17:32:21< Ivanovic> it seems to not have been run since 7am this morning, some 10h 30min ago
20110526 17:32:26 * Rhonda sighs
20110526 17:32:40< Rhonda> It's not my cronjob.
20110526 17:32:55< Rhonda> Yes, I did one commit to the file.
20110526 17:33:05< Rhonda> But that was only to add -q to the svn up
20110526 17:34:32< Rhonda> And what do you base your "it seems" on?
20110526 17:34:56< Ivanovic> Wesnoth translation stats
20110526 17:34:56< Rhonda> tail -50 ~wesnoth/g.w.o-updates.log # speaks a different story than you
20110526 17:34:57< Ivanovic> (last update: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:01:51 +0200)
20110526 17:35:22< Ivanovic> have you updated php or changed the config?
20110526 17:35:39< Rhonda> Only touched bin/update-gettext-stats
20110526 17:35:50< Rhonda> And formerly, did a svn cleanup in the trunk checkout
20110526 17:36:00< Rhonda> Because that was again locked
20110526 17:36:29< Ivanovic> hmm, strange, php seems to no longer work with the script
20110526 17:36:49< Rhonda> nice --adjustment=5 php grab-stats.php  # doesn't give any error
20110526 17:36:53< Ivanovic> meaning the "php grab-stats.php" part ain't doing anything noticable
20110526 17:37:33< Rhonda> If it would be a shell script I'd stat it with "sh -x"
20110526 17:37:44< Rhonda> No clue whether php has a similar debug modus
20110526 17:38:13< Rhonda>  if (is_locked()) {
20110526 17:38:13< Rhonda>   exit();
20110526 17:38:22< Rhonda> Not really sure what that is_locked refers to
20110526 17:38:34< Rhonda> ah, /tmp/*.lock
20110526 17:38:41< Rhonda> /tmp/grab-stats.lock
20110526 17:39:00< Rhonda> And there you are.
20110526 17:39:14< Rhonda> PHP Notice:  Undefined offset: 2 in /sources/wesnoth/website/gettext.wesnoth.org/functions.php on line 72
20110526 17:39:22< Rhonda> You could fix the script to be less verbose
20110526 17:39:43< Rhonda> … while you are at it. :)
20110526 17:39:57< Ivanovic> Rhonda: not mine, that one is Crendgrim
20110526 17:39:58< Rhonda> Espreon: Problem found, .lock file removed, manual running right now.
20110526 17:40:01< Ivanovic> argh, crimson_penguins
20110526 17:40:15< Rhonda> Nicks should be unique in the first two characteers
20110526 17:40:21< Ivanovic> yepp, they should be
20110526 17:40:41< Rhonda> We manage to do that, why can't others
20110526 17:40:45< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: have you seen the stuff above?
20110526 17:41:12< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: would be nice if you could add some "currently locked, won't run now, exiting" message in case the logfile still exists
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20110526 17:41:25< Ivanovic> as well as the notice Rhonda just pointed out
20110526 17:41:31< Rhonda> Adding that message is no trouble.
20110526 17:42:50< Rhonda> Scripts that are meant to be run by cron should only spit out any messages in case of throubles, otherwise be 100% quiet.
20110526 17:43:11< Ivanovic> yeah, this is a message where trouble seems to be
20110526 17:43:28< Rhonda> Right, but rather get addressed and not ignored. :)
20110526 17:43:32< Ivanovic> since eg the server might crash and tmp/ never be cleaned up correctly
20110526 17:43:46< Ivanovic> or php might crash after the file was created
20110526 17:43:52< Rhonda> erm
20110526 17:43:54< crimson_penguin> hmm
20110526 17:43:56 * Rhonda bonks Ivanovic over the head
20110526 17:44:06< Ivanovic> Rhonda: what?
20110526 17:44:09< Rhonda> server crash _will_ clean /tmp because /tmp is reaped at each boot :)
20110526 17:44:12< Ivanovic> Rhonda: that is just the problem we had
20110526 17:44:30< Rhonda> Don't come along with false reasoning. :P
20110526 17:44:33< Ivanovic> Rhonda: that the file was still there due to "whatever" even though it should have been gone
20110526 17:45:11< Rhonda> Now that makes me wonder …
20110526 17:45:17< Rhonda>       $m[3]=$m[2];
20110526 17:45:17< Rhonda>       $m[2]=0;
20110526 17:45:25 * Rhonda looks puzzled.
20110526 17:45:44< Rhonda> ah, no, that's proper
20110526 17:46:42< Rhonda> But I guess after that if statement there should be a if (not $m[2]) { $m[2]=0 }  (or however one does check for undefined in php
20110526 17:47:36< Rhonda> or explicitly get unset in the (empty) blocks of the if's that don't set those variables
20110526 17:48:38 * Rhonda goes and fixes
20110526 17:49:37< anonymissimus> {V}: ok, seems to work; still I'm much slower at typing such a thing than simply hitting "F9" (or some other key which I bind it to) in an IDE, and of course, I mistype at least several times ;)
20110526 17:50:06< Rhonda> crimson_penguin: Does that look proper to you? http://paste.debian.net/118057/
20110526 17:50:18< Rhonda> hmm, no
20110526 17:50:50< Rhonda> wtf is the return array(1,0,0,0) doing there??!
20110526 17:51:18< crimson_penguin> I... have no idea
20110526 17:51:34< crimson_penguin> I'm really not an expert on this stuff - I kind of learn it all every time I change something :P
20110526 17:52:13< Rhonda> Hmm, why doesn't this work actually!!
20110526 17:52:32< Rhonda> aaaargh
20110526 18:01:06< Rhonda> I think I managed
20110526 18:01:06< Rhonda> Now it only spits otu "Getting stats for ..."
20110526 18:01:06< Rhonda> No error messages anymore. ;)
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20110526 18:01:07< Rhonda> crimson_penguin: http://paste.debian.net/118058/
20110526 18:01:07< Rhonda> Will commit it soonish
20110526 18:01:08< CIA-94> rhonda * r49657 /website/gettext.wesnoth.org/functions.php: fix warnings
20110526 18:01:08< crimson_penguin> I don't understand how only those lines were added; I mean, what were the ifs there for without those lines?
20110526 18:01:08< Rhonda> So that the else parts would be possible.
20110526 18:01:08< anonymissimus> {V}: and even then - I do break unit.cpp:260 (a constructor where it must pass by) but yet it doesn't stop there
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20110526 18:06:47< crimson_penguin> ah
20110526 18:08:50< {V}> anonymissimus, a contructor for a unit object? are you sure it needs pass _that_ constructor? I think I see 3 constructors in that file; 1 copy-constructor and 2 others
20110526 18:14:42< anonymissimus> yes, I am sure
20110526 18:15:00< anonymissimus> see the power of MSVC ? :P
20110526 18:15:31< anonymissimus> for every unit on the map it needs to pass the the contructor from a cfg
20110526 18:15:44< anonymissimus> when loading a savegame
20110526 18:15:59< anonymissimus> but anyway, I did set breakpoint in the others too
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20110526 18:40:16< Soliton> and gdb did not complain about the breakpoint(s)?
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20110526 19:08:27< anonymissimus> Soliton: No symbol table is loaded.  Use the "file" command.
20110526 19:08:29< anonymissimus> Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) y
20110526 19:08:31< anonymissimus> Breakpoint 1 (unit.cpp:260) pending.
20110526 19:09:10< anonymissimus> if that doesnt count as complaint then no
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20110526 19:36:56< anonymissimus> timotei: I think it's save to use the filemode = input setting; actually somewhat more save in case you accidentally write some CRLF line endings
20110526 19:37:22< anonymissimus> autocrlf = input I mean; filemode =  false of course
20110526 19:37:37< timotei> anonymissimus: I used that setting, till, like I already told you, got a lot of checksum mismatch :D
20110526 19:37:42< anonymissimus> just not autocrlf = true
20110526 19:37:47< timotei> if that doesn't/won't happen for you, then, it's fine!
20110526 19:37:48< timotei> :)
20110526 19:38:20< anonymissimus> oha, so you thought too that it's save until you got checksum mismatches ?
20110526 19:39:28< anonymissimus> well, so I guess it will cause problems once that it will actually convert some CRLF to Fl upon commit ?
20110526 19:39:35< anonymissimus> LF
20110526 19:39:53< timotei> save = safe, right?:P
20110526 19:40:01< anonymissimus> yes, safe
20110526 19:40:03< timotei> anonymissimus: well.. usually it worked.
20110526 19:40:13< timotei> it converted every CRLF to LF on commit
20110526 19:40:24< timotei> but IDK why I got 10 or more times some checksum mismatch
20110526 19:40:35< timotei> and I reverted it to none
20110526 19:40:40< timotei> or false
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20110526 19:41:05< anonymissimus> at what action did the mismatches occur ?
20110526 19:42:17< timotei> IDK :(
20110526 19:42:29< timotei> I loved the autocrlf=input option... but I could find the problem
20110526 19:42:35< timotei> maybe you'll be lucky :)
20110526 19:42:39< timotei> just save a copy of your repo
20110526 19:42:45< timotei> in case it will happen sometime
20110526 19:42:52< timotei> so you won't wait hours to reset it :P
20110526 19:43:29< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: That message means that you used release build variant.
20110526 19:43:50< loonycyborg> That is without debug symbols.
20110526 19:44:19< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: but I did set exec-file wesnoth-debug
20110526 19:44:50< loonycyborg> Not sure what you mean. I run gdb ./wesnoth-debug
20110526 19:47:05< loonycyborg> With debug build it prints at start 'Reading symbols from /home/sergey/vcs-checkouts/wesnoth/wesnoth-debug...done.' among other things.
20110526 19:47:22< loonycyborg> With release: 'Reading symbols from /home/sergey/vcs-checkouts/wesnoth/wesnoth...(no debugging symbols found)...done.'
20110526 19:49:49< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: yes, now it stops; well, I did type gdb only, then exec-file wesnoth-debug, then break etc
20110526 19:50:39< loonycyborg> Probably exec-file doesn't load debug symbols.
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20110526 21:05:43< fendrin> zookeeper: Do you remember, we talked about a wml syntax for a custom alignment system. Do you still have the suggested syntax somewhere?
20110526 21:08:49< Espreon> fendrin: You had commented [alignment] code in quenoth.cfg. Would you like me to give you the URL?
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20110526 21:09:57< Espreon> fendrin: Well, regardless: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/Under_the_Burning_Suns_Eftboren/units/quenoth/quenoth.cfg?revision=9321&view=markup
20110526 21:14:27< zookeeper> fendrin, probably, but i also think i dislike my earlier proposal for being so complicated...
20110526 21:16:05< zookeeper> not that i have a simpler one.
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20110526 21:25:56< fendrin> Espreon: Thank you. 
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20110526 23:21:14< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: is there an option which can be passed to scons at all so that it builds only a single file ? it works neither with codeblocks 10 nor 8 and from what the description in scons -H sounds it did never
20110526 23:22:04< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: Appropriate object file should be passed to it.
20110526 23:22:44< anonymissimus> anyway, the cb 8 works much better I feel; probably not only because it's the version targeted at the distro I have here
20110526 23:22:47< loonycyborg> E.g. scons build/release/game.o
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