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20110530 00:08:54< Crab_> Nephro: but, before either takes place, I'd ask you to change the responsibility of lua_object to only contain a way to transport value from lua stack to c++ (remove the stuff related to handlers there, let the value be calculated elsewhere)
20110530 00:09:40< Crab_> Nephro: so, the handler will be called elsewhere, leaving N values on stack, then a new lua_object would be created, taking those N values from the stack at creation time.
20110530 00:14:18< Crab_> Nephro: so, afterwards, the handler would store the c++ value inside and return it to clients.
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20110530 00:31:06< zaroth> Crab_: I isolated the bug, could you take a moment to help?
20110530 00:31:22< Crab_> yes
20110530 00:31:28< zaroth> because although I isolated it, I still have no idea why it's there
20110530 00:31:40< zaroth> find that line in game_controller.cpp
20110530 00:31:44< zaroth> int fps = lexical_cast_default<int>(argv_[arg_], 50);
20110530 00:32:03< zaroth> changing it to int fps = 0; causes the linking error for me
20110530 00:32:38< zaroth> I use cmake
20110530 00:34:10< zaroth> it's like black magic, it shouldn't even be possible
20110530 00:34:10< Crab_> do you still have const int xres = lexical_cast_default<int>(res.front());  const int yres = lexical_cast_default<int>(res.back()); ?
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20110530 00:34:20< zaroth> yes, I do
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20110530 00:35:09< Crab_> zaroth: is it reproduced if 'int fps = 0' is the only diff ?
20110530 00:35:40< zaroth> yes, I'm positive
20110530 00:35:40< anonymissimus> Nephro: , Crab_ : what did you do to resolve this cmake error when using the MCVC + cmake built system: http://pastebin.com/ZLFWJEMF
20110530 00:36:06< anonymissimus> (or didnt you solve that yet)
20110530 00:36:19< Crab_> anonymissimus: solved, afair. fix the .bat file to  set those LIBINTL_INCLUDE_DIR LIBINTL_LIB_FOUND
20110530 00:37:04< zaroth> I comment out the first line, with lexical_cast_default and put int fps = 0; instead, it stops compiling with the error I pastebined
20110530 00:38:21< Crab_> anonymissimus:  http://pastebin.com/HXdC8QP2
20110530 00:38:43< zaroth> just to make sure, I replaced the xres= and yres= lines with xres=0 and yres=0 (while also having fps=0), the problem stays
20110530 00:40:19< zaroth> Crab_: can you reproduce?
20110530 00:41:09< Crab_> zaroth: can you pastebin the errors again ?
20110530 00:41:23< Crab_> zaroth: your former link has already expired
20110530 00:41:25< zaroth> replacing xres= and yres= lines with =0 (without touching fps=) doesn't spoil the compilation
20110530 00:42:40< zaroth> Crab_: yeah, I didn't expect that bug would still be unsolved after 1+ hours... http://pastebin.com/84PMcxjU
20110530 00:42:58< zaroth> this one has pessimistic expiration date of 1 month ;-)
20110530 00:45:15< zaroth> I also use ccache
20110530 00:45:21< zaroth> maybe that's the reason?
20110530 00:48:35< Crab_> we'll see. I've changed the line and I'm trying to compile (scons/debian)
20110530 00:49:00< zaroth> I changed compiler to a one not using ccache and I'm recompiling whole wesnoth as well
20110530 00:49:32< zaroth> hopefully it's just this ccache problem, because if it isn't, I really have no idea what it could be
20110530 00:50:15< Crab_> zaroth: done/ no problems.
20110530 00:51:33< zaroth> let's hope my build will succeed as well, then, 28% now
20110530 00:52:10< zaroth> by the way, who is maintainer of this ana stuff?
20110530 00:56:05< loonycyborg> Original ana's author isn't present right now.
20110530 00:56:32< loonycyborg> It looks like he was one of gsoc students who don't stick around.
20110530 01:05:23< anonymissimus> hes name was billynux
20110530 01:06:51< anonymissimus> Crab_: your paste doesn't work; how can I get hints about what it does expect ? LIBINTL_LIB_FOUND souns like a bool
20110530 01:07:32< Crab_> I guess that var is set by cmake if it find the lib at correct location, see the cmake cache to see its current value
20110530 01:07:52< Crab_> and the lib's location is set by us in .bat file
20110530 01:09:59< zaroth> Crab_: I rebuilt completely without ccache, it still produces the same error...
20110530 01:10:17< Crab_> (
20110530 01:10:27< anonymissimus> LIBINTL_LIB_FOUND is not in CMakeCache.txt
20110530 01:10:29< zaroth> could you try taking my patch up to my current local tree and testing it?
20110530 01:10:43< Crab_> zaroth: ok
20110530 01:11:51< Crab_> please resend as well )
20110530 01:12:50< zaroth> well, I have to generate against svn tip
20110530 01:13:45< zaroth> Crab_: http://pastebin.com/bXEKZ8mk
20110530 01:13:49< zaroth> this compiles for me
20110530 01:14:31< zaroth> if you uncomment line 128 ( // 		int fps = 0;) and comment line 127 (the lexical_cast), it stops compiling
20110530 01:14:49< zaroth> i.e. linking
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20110530 01:21:12< Crab_> zaroth: the problem is: patch refused to apply cleanly
20110530 01:21:52< Crab_> zaroth: latest svn, 'patch -p1 < file.patch'
20110530 01:22:00< zaroth> weird, I generated it against 49702
20110530 01:22:20< Crab_> Last Changed Author: anonymissimus
20110530 01:22:20< Crab_> Last Changed Rev: 49705
20110530 01:22:38< Crab_> but I think that something is not good with the patch format itself, maybe pastebin did something  evil.
20110530 01:23:06< zaroth> all right, I'll send by e-mail
20110530 01:25:16< zaroth> sent
20110530 01:25:36< Crab_> received
20110530 01:26:26< Crab_> applied cleanly
20110530 01:26:36< Crab_> started compilation
20110530 01:27:05< Crab_> will take some time, unfortunately
20110530 01:28:47< Crab_> ah, no, since the scons buildsystem file is not affected, it did a partial build.
20110530 01:28:48< Crab_> all's ok
20110530 01:29:05< zaroth> ...
20110530 01:29:16< zaroth> what the heck?
20110530 01:29:25< Crab_> it is ok for you, too
20110530 01:29:39< Crab_> now let me uncomment the line fps = 0 and comment int fps = lexical_cast_default<int>(argv_[arg_], 50);
20110530 01:29:52< zaroth> ah, yeah, I forgot I sent you the clean version ;-)
20110530 01:30:32< Crab_> compiling..
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20110530 01:31:39< Crab_> zaroth: reproduced.
20110530 01:32:00< Crab_> zaroth: as a side note, pastebin changed tabs to spaces, corrupting the patch
20110530 01:32:19< zaroth> the change to this part I made was moving the max-fps out of the for loop
20110530 01:32:32< zaroth> since it's no longer parsed in this loop
20110530 01:34:50< zaroth> but what I completely don't get is how this error message can be produced at all
20110530 01:35:02< zaroth> by REMOVING a function call, I get a linker error?
20110530 01:35:10< zaroth> and in completely unrelated file?
20110530 01:35:15< Crab_> yes, it's possible
20110530 01:35:17< zaroth> dark forces at play
20110530 01:36:21< Crab_> one scenario: library A, uses a template and a file containing the definition of the template X;      library B, uses library A and uses the template, doesn't use the file containing the definition of the template X.
20110530 01:36:48< zaroth> oh
20110530 01:37:00< Crab_> when A has a call to the template, it is put into the corresponding object file, and so library B will find it during linking.
20110530 01:37:15< Crab_> when A has no call to the template (with a particular set of params), B is out of luck
20110530 01:37:28< Crab_> and the file in A might be totally unrelated to file in B
20110530 01:38:00< zaroth> so it didn't happen for you because you had a few more lexical_casts left, right?
20110530 01:38:15< zaroth> and for me this is the last one that isn't const or something
20110530 01:38:35< zaroth> so it can be solved by adding headers to hotkeys.cpp ?
20110530 01:38:42< Crab_> zaroth: no
20110530 01:39:05< Crab_> zaroth: mess with headers would screw up compilation, not linking.
20110530 01:40:08< zaroth> so... moving definition to header?
20110530 01:40:37< Crab_> yes, changes to the template location might help.
20110530 01:40:48< Crab_> or to the usage of the template
20110530 01:41:15< zaroth> templates are officially evil now
20110530 01:43:57< loonycyborg> Templates are fine if confined to headers only :P
20110530 01:47:41< loonycyborg> If they are in headers each time you use one you also instantiate it, so I don't see how you can get undefined references to it.
20110530 01:47:59< Crab_> loonycyborg: this particular template has a few specializations not in header.
20110530 01:48:15< zaroth> loonycyborg: util.cpp
20110530 01:49:00< zaroth> Crab_: is moving all the specializations to util.hpp and getting rid of util.cpp an acceptable solution?
20110530 01:49:42< Crab_> for me, yes
20110530 01:49:56< Crab_> 100 lines and exposed <cstdlib> dependency.
20110530 01:50:17< zaroth> alright, I'm doing it
20110530 01:50:27< loonycyborg> I wonder what were the motivations of villain who did this :P
20110530 01:50:43< Crab_> :)
20110530 01:51:42< zaroth> well, I don't even know this "villain", I'm too young... "ayin"
20110530 01:52:39< zaroth> since I didn't see him around during my time here, maybe he won't come complaining ;-)
20110530 01:53:16< zaroth> wesbot: log 8355
20110530 01:53:17< wesbot> ayin * r8355 : made lexical_cast&lt;int&gt; and lexical_cast_default&lt;int&gt; much faster by addingtemplate specializations for the most used cases.
20110530 01:53:20< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=8355
20110530 01:54:27< Crab_> good, so the intent was to speed up things by adding specializations
20110530 01:54:45< Crab_> so, it'll be kept after you remove util.cpp
20110530 01:55:46< anonymissimus> zaroth: frankly, there's harld anyone still around from those who did the revisions before 10000
20110530 01:56:21< zaroth> anonymissimus: it's like we're the NWO then
20110530 01:56:27< zaroth> New Wesnoth Order*
20110530 01:56:51< shadowmaster> you still have Ivanovic
20110530 01:58:06< Crab_> ( ok, I'll go to get some sleep, bye )
20110530 01:58:14< zaroth> good night Crab_
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20110530 01:58:48< anonymissimus> I'm not new actually, downloaded it teh first time almost 3 years ago
20110530 01:59:07< anonymissimus> started with wml few months later
20110530 01:59:34< zaroth> well, compared to rev 8355 (made 5 years, 8 months ago), you're a freshman
20110530 02:00:02< zaroth> my first wesnoth version was 1.2.1 from opensuse (my first linux distro ever) ;-)
20110530 02:00:31< zaroth> I remember doing a test which linux is best for you, and it resulted in suse
20110530 02:00:43< shadowmaster> anonymissimus: too new.
20110530 02:00:53< shadowmaster> I downloaded it for the first time in 2005.
20110530 02:18:52< zaroth> good night
20110530 02:20:25< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: but you are one of the longest still active devs I guess
20110530 02:20:49< shadowmaster> mordante was before me
20110530 02:21:55< shadowmaster> he's the only one I can count (besides Ivanovic) whose activity levels stay high throughout every day of every year
20110530 02:22:29< anonymissimus> and yourself
20110530 02:22:48< shadowmaster> as developer? nah, I've not done much in a couple of years
20110530 02:23:07< anonymissimus> well, but generally
20110530 02:23:31< anonymissimus> addons, forum
20110530 02:23:36< anonymissimus> UMC repo
20110530 02:23:44< anonymissimus> thats a lot
20110530 02:24:16< shadowmaster> I thought we were measuring mainline commits :p
20110530 02:27:22< anonymissimus> but actually using wml and lua is an important part - detecting addon related bugs, implementing stuff which is useful in particular for UMC authors and such
20110530 02:27:48< shadowmaster> I've not been active as an add-on developer ever since Christmas 2008
20110530 02:28:18< anonymissimus> didnt you release AtS ?
20110530 02:28:26< shadowmaster> there's an ongoing (pathetic) attempt to correct that but I think I need to learn to give up
20110530 02:30:29< Espreon> Nooo... don't...
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20110530 09:03:26< zaroth> Crab_: boucman: moving the template to the header didn't fix it... how naive I was.
20110530 09:03:49< zaroth> it now complains a thousand times about multiple definitions of the same functions, obviously.
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20110530 09:24:06< zaroth> Crab_, boucman, mordante, anyone who is knowledgeable about templates and willing to help: I described my problem in a nutshell in a mailing list post, it'd be nice if one of you C++ wizard helped me :-)
20110530 09:24:22< zaroth> s/wizard/wizards/
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20110530 10:01:13< Ivanovic> moin
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20110530 11:23:42< Nephro> zaroth, can I take a look? I'm no pro, but have struggled through some template code :)
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20110530 11:32:45< loonycyborg> He seems to have left for now.
20110530 11:33:16< loonycyborg> Anyway, it seems to be link order issue since if I explicitly list util.o in linker command line it works.
20110530 11:36:24< cjhopman> loonycyborg: yes, that is correct
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20110530 11:55:53< timotei> Ivanovic: hi
20110530 11:56:03< timotei> Ivanovic: could you give me again the command used to upload something on sf?
20110530 11:57:00< Ivanovic> rsync -avP -e ssh FILES timotei,wesnoth@frs.sourceforge.net:/home/frs/project/w/we/wesnoth/STREAM/RELEASENAME
20110530 11:57:06< timotei> Ivanovic: thanks :)
20110530 11:57:21< Ivanovic> eg to upload something.tar in the 1.8.6 tree, this would be the command:
20110530 11:57:42< Ivanovic> rsync -avP -e ssh something.tar timotei,wesnoth@frs.sourceforge.net:/home/frs/project/w/we/wesnoth/wesnoth-1.8/wesnoth-1.8.6/
20110530 11:57:52< timotei> I see
20110530 11:58:48< Ivanovic> for the explicit folders to use at "STREAM", check this list of currently available folders: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/
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20110530 12:33:17< Ivanovic> fendrin: i just ack'ed the gna group membership request by the emacs wml mode creator/maintainer
20110530 12:36:08< fendrin> Ivanovic: Thank you very much.
20110530 12:37:47< timotei21> Ivanovic: should rsync report the uploaded percetange?
20110530 12:38:03< Ivanovic> timotei21: in this commandline: yes
20110530 12:38:17< Ivanovic> the -v part (IIRC) is responsible for this
20110530 12:38:19< timotei21> hm, after it asked my password it doesn't say anything
20110530 12:38:23< timotei21> yeah, I was thinking that way too
20110530 12:38:38< timotei21> oh.
20110530 12:38:42< timotei21> it needs a --progress options
20110530 12:38:45< timotei21> option*
20110530 12:39:22< Ivanovic> timotei21: not over here
20110530 12:41:09< shadowmaster>  /umode +g
20110530 12:41:18< shadowmaster> ignore that
20110530 12:41:32< Ivanovic>  /ignore "/umode +g"
20110530 12:41:34< Ivanovic> ;)
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20110530 13:04:39< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: In fact it's -P that is responible for this.
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20110530 14:16:43< Crab_> hi, Nephro
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20110530 14:22:13< nephx> Hello, Crab_ 
20110530 14:23:17< Crab_> have you seem my messages in the log wrt aspect patch ?
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20110530 14:26:51< nephx> Yes, I read and understood that. Will be redone :) You said there are two options: commit & fix or fix & commit. Could we go with the first one? It's just that I just received my new laptop, it would be cool if could just checkout the current version with all my changes, not needing to tangle with patches, etc... But any way is good, actually...
20110530 14:28:46< Crab_> it's easy to transfer the patch via email
20110530 14:29:05< Crab_> yes, you can commit. note that you will break quite a few things with it.
20110530 14:29:35< nephx> like what?
20110530 14:29:38< Crab_> but it's a dev version, and noone will notice anyway, since it's in ai code which is only called if you use it explicitly, and the proper syntax is not that every documented, since lua aspects are new.
20110530 14:30:49< Crab_> for example, you have syntax errors in your lua code in lua ai test scenario, so it'll break.
20110530 14:31:21< Crab_> also, be sure to fix compilation for other non-cmake buildsystems
20110530 14:32:50< Crab_> also, in src/ai/composite/engine.hpp, you don't need +#include "../lua/core.hpp as the only change
20110530 14:34:10< Crab_> and since you'll fix it quite soon, I guess it's ok to commit (with the buildsystem changes in, of course)
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20110530 14:40:22< nephx> Crab_, I don't have commit access yet
20110530 14:41:38< Crab_> Nephx: do you have a gna username ?
20110530 14:41:46< nephx> yes, it's nephro
20110530 14:41:54< Crab_> Ivanovic: ^
20110530 14:42:09< Crab_> Ivanovic: can you grant commit access to nephro ?
20110530 14:42:11< Ivanovic> Crab_: so are the requirements done?
20110530 14:42:18< Ivanovic> meaning: enough patches reviewed?
20110530 14:44:56< Crab_> yes, I want him to commit https://gna.org/patch/?2674 , and he's got another in during the GSOC proposal submission phase.
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20110530 14:46:42< Ivanovic> added him to the group
20110530 14:46:47< Crab_> thanks
20110530 14:47:17< Crab_> nephx: so, you'd be able to commit in a few hours after telling gna about your key.
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20110530 14:52:06< Crab_> nephx: be sure to check that lua ai test scenario works before committing, and be sure to change the build system files
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20110530 15:01:38< Nephro> Crab_, isn't there only scons and cmake left?
20110530 15:02:12< Crab_> scons/cmake/codeblocks/codeblocks-scons/msvc ...
20110530 15:04:00< Nephro> oh, alright
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20110530 18:24:31< fendrin> wesbot: seen zaroth?
20110530 18:24:31< wesbot> fendrin: The person with the nick zaroth last spoke 9h ago.  8h 58m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth, #wesnoth-de and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Remote host closed the connection
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20110530 18:32:07< CIA-94> fendrin * r49706 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/ (20 files in 2 dirs): Removed a backwards compatability hack that spammed stdout with warnings.
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20110530 18:58:00< boucman> hey all
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20110530 18:59:57< boucman> hey zaroth
20110530 19:00:10< boucman> you managed to go to paris on the WE i'm not there :P
20110530 19:00:11< zaroth> hello boucman
20110530 19:00:45< zaroth> ah, you live there?
20110530 19:00:55< zaroth> didn't know that ;-)
20110530 19:01:05< boucman> yup
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20110530 19:02:56< zaroth> Nephro: you're welcome, I attached the patch to the mailing list post ;-)
20110530 19:03:19< zaroth> however, for now I'm using a small workaround for my problem, so it's not that urgent
20110530 19:04:53< zaroth> oh, I even got a reply from cjhopman :-)
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20110530 19:55:34< Soliton> interesting.. "The latest mainline 3 version of the Linux kernel is: 3.0-rc1"
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20110530 20:00:01< zaroth> Soliton: nice, here I found Linus rationale behind it http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1147415
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20110530 20:01:07< zaroth> I hope the new major number motivates them to make this release really stable and polished :-)
20110530 20:01:14< Soliton> yeah, that's what i read before i checked. :-)
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20110530 20:02:01< loonycyborg> Usually major version numbers are bumped on architectural changes, but it looks like linux won't be getting any soon :P
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20110530 20:02:25< zaroth> the best part is "I'm renumbering it myself, and you'll like it" :D
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20110530 20:13:01< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20110530 20:36:59< anonymissimus> is there some tutorial forum thread etc how to create this .mo file out of a .po ? (I managed to run tools/wmlxgettext, it runs even on win)
20110530 20:38:05< Espreon> anonymissimus: Use msgfmt
20110530 20:42:19< Espreon> anonymissimus: Example: msgfmt de.po -o de.mo
20110530 20:42:54< Espreon> msgfmt is provided by Cygwin's gettext package; it also comes with poedit.
20110530 20:43:43< Espreon> Of course, it also normally comes with gettext on Linux and friends.
20110530 20:44:35< Espreon> BTW, wmlxgettext just extracts strings from WML and stuff.
20110530 20:45:59< CIA-94> ivanovic * r49707 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): updated Vietnamese translation
20110530 20:50:23< Ivanovic> people will love me!
20110530 20:50:37 * Rhonda hates Ivanovic
20110530 20:50:40< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: uhm, those tools are directly run by the build system
20110530 20:51:01< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: otherwise you'll have to write yourself a script to create the files yourself
20110530 20:51:13< Rhonda> anonymissimus: "msgfmt foo.po" creates messages.mo by default.
20110530 20:51:31< Rhonda> No script needed, just msgfmt -o foo.mo foo.po
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20110530 20:53:30< CIA-94> ivanovic * r49708 /trunk/ (892 files in 49 dirs): 
20110530 20:53:30< CIA-94> pot-update
20110530 20:53:30< CIA-94> regenerated doc files
20110530 20:53:35< Ivanovic> Rhonda: the script is required to do so for all textdomains and having the files in the correct folders
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20110530 20:54:55< Ivanovic> since wesnoth requires eg the german (de) translation of httt (textdomain wesnoth-httt) which is the po file po/wesnoth-httt/de.po to be placed in translations/de/LC_MESSAGES/wesnoth-httt.mo
20110530 20:55:35< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: in general the easiest approach is to simply copy over the translations folder from a *NIX system to windows
20110530 20:56:01< Ivanovic> and you won't need *anything* from utils/ to create the mo files
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20110530 20:56:38< Rhonda> Ivanovic: AIUI the question of anonymissimus was rather basic generic and not specific.
20110530 20:57:16< Rhonda> And no, it doesn't require it in translations/de/LC_MESSAGES/$domain.mo, that depends on your settings. ;)
20110530 20:57:39< Ivanovic> Rhonda: the only part that is configurable there is the "translations/" part
20110530 20:57:51< Ivanovic> the rest has to be this way or it won't be loaded correctly
20110530 20:57:55< Rhonda> And that's the important part.
20110530 21:03:25< CIA-94> espreon * r49709 /trunk/ (18 files in 17 dirs): Updated the Latin translation.
20110530 21:06:02< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: thx; I'm trying to translate an own addon and put it with the translation onto the addon server
20110530 21:06:24< anonymissimus> I'm gonna find it out I think
20110530 21:06:35< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: hmm, the easiest way for this was once to simply add the stuff to wescamp
20110530 21:06:43< Ivanovic> wait a little and just download the compiled files from there
20110530 21:07:02< anonymissimus> yes but I want to do it in self responsibility :P
20110530 21:07:10< Ivanovic> no idea what the integration of addons in wescamp is like these days and how much manual work is to be done though
20110530 21:07:14< Ivanovic> mordante might know more
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20110530 21:07:29< anonymissimus> because there is never anything in my addons which I do not understand
20110530 21:07:51< Espreon> Sadly, the integration stuff no longer works... Meaning, translations are no longer inserted... if they ever were.
20110530 21:07:55< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: the benefit of wescamp is that the possible audience is larger, since it is shown on the stats page
20110530 21:08:16< Espreon> anonymissimus: I could help you with WesCamp-related stuff.
20110530 21:08:17< Ivanovic> Espreon: i am not sure if they were ever automatically inserted or if the author had to fetch them manually
20110530 21:08:36< Ivanovic> that is why asking mordante would be a good way to know, he once wrote some auto upload script stuff IIRC
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20110530 21:11:53< Crab_> hi, zaroth
20110530 21:11:56< Crab_> zaroth: I wonder why '
20110530 21:12:10< Crab_> why 'move everything to header' hasn't worked for you
20110530 21:12:12< zaroth> hello Crab_
20110530 21:12:38< zaroth> Crab_: because it resulted in multiple definitions of the same function in multiple object files
20110530 21:12:43< Crab_> zaroth: it compiled when I've tried it, that is.
20110530 21:13:08< Crab_> zaroth: I had to make them inline for that
20110530 21:13:33< zaroth> Crab_: could you post diff somewhere?
20110530 21:13:41< zaroth> I'm using a workaround currently for this
20110530 21:14:19< zaroth> that is, I didn't remove the lexical_cast_default call and I'm simply overwriting the value
20110530 21:17:14< loonycyborg> Ah, yes. inline would indeed fix that.
20110530 21:17:28< anonymissimus> yep, finally got a translated string ;)
20110530 21:17:49< Crab_> zaroth: mail sent.
20110530 21:18:00< zaroth> really? So inline is actually doing something?
20110530 21:18:09< loonycyborg> But the swap in the linking order cjhopman suggested wouldn't hurt too.
20110530 21:18:33< Crab_> or, at the very least, document the f***up somewhere :)
20110530 21:18:34< zaroth> I thought I read somewhere it was a suggestion, not a firm order to compiler
20110530 21:19:12< loonycyborg> zaroth: inline would force a single definition for the function globally beside making it inline.
20110530 21:19:30< loonycyborg> Since otherwise it's hard to use an inline defined in a header.
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20110530 21:33:24< zaroth> Crab_: could you do the wiki thing? I put the whole process in a nuthshell for you here, our wiki already has the necessary modules installed: http://pastebin.com/3YRhNRuF
20110530 21:33:47< zaroth> LocalSettings.php is in the main mediawiki directory
20110530 21:34:41< zaroth> if somebody wants to come up with better questions, they're welcome
20110530 21:35:20< zaroth> but I think that anything'll be better than current captcha 
20110530 21:37:29< Crab_> no, we don't have all the necessary modules :)
20110530 21:37:45< Crab_> (we used recaptcha without confirmEdit)
20110530 21:39:39< zaroth> I intended to make them so that people not being on actual website couldn't see the answer, but anyone else could look it up in <30 seconds
20110530 21:40:17< zaroth> the reason is for people using automated scripts to get just  the box with questions and box for answers, such as outsourced Asian captcha solvers, whom shadowmaster pointed out
20110530 21:42:14< zaroth> Crab_: ah, so it was custom written...
20110530 21:42:27< zaroth> I don't see recaptcha here either http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Special:Version
20110530 21:42:41< Crab_> it is not enabled now
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20110530 21:56:02< Crab_> zaroth: installed/enabled
20110530 21:56:27< Crab_> zaroth: btw, ConfirmEdit requires the basic recaptcha plugin to be installed before.
20110530 21:56:46< Crab_> zaroth: some i18n issues, but the base functionality works
20110530 21:57:28< zaroth> alright, thanks :-) I hope it'll help with the spambots registration 
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20110530 22:30:31< anonymissimus> btw Espreon are the .mo files supposed to be in the wesnoth UMC repo ? or are they just added upon downloading an addon ? I guess add_on_dir/po/de.po is right for a .po file ?
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20110530 22:30:58< anonymissimus> are the .po files supposed to be in the UMC repo ? :P
20110530 22:31:00< Espreon> anonymissimus: You may have them in the repository if you wish.
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20110530 22:31:06< Espreon> ... same with the po files.
20110530 22:32:07< boucman> zaroth: so, how is it going today ?
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20110530 22:32:37< CIA-94> espreon * r49710 /trunk/data/ai/scenarios/ai_arena_small/0002-poisoning.cfg: Converted some instances of 'colour='.
20110530 22:32:57< anonymissimus> my reason for doing this is that a wml and lua author should know about problems that can occur during translations due to the way the code translatable strings appear in the code
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20110530 22:40:09< Espreon> anonymissimus: Using MOVE_UNIT gives me useless colour deprecation messages. "colour" doesn't even exist in my addon's files.
20110530 22:42:48< zaroth> boucman: well, I'm about halfway done with the commandline_options class
20110530 22:43:13< boucman> ok, cool
20110530 22:43:28< boucman> that sounded like a great simplification, since that code was really tangled in game.cpp
20110530 22:43:31< zaroth> I don't plan on commiting it before it's done, though
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20110530 22:44:14< zaroth> because when the parsing is split between this class and old code as it currently is in my local branch
20110530 22:44:36< zaroth> weird things may happen and I don't want to spoil fun for everyone
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20110530 22:45:18< zaroth> if you want an insight of how much is done and how, I can send you patches, or look into the one I attached to the mailing list post
20110530 22:45:55< anonymissimus> Espreon: it can't be MOVE_UNIT it is probably store_side
20110530 22:46:23< anonymissimus> the problem is, I know of no way how to detect whether you intended to use the .colour attribute
20110530 22:46:41< anonymissimus> if you did then the message should show
20110530 22:47:05< anonymissimus> upon using the .colour field it can't be detected...
20110530 22:47:43< anonymissimus> so I did put that message into [store_side] and let it show in debug mode always and without debug mode never...
20110530 22:48:05< Espreon> Uh huh... OK, whatever...
20110530 22:48:51< anonymissimus> well, let's see whether this message is mroe an annoyance than useful
20110530 22:50:25< anonymissimus> and whoever is reponsible fro wmlxgettext...poedit gace me an error about duplicate string, would be nice if wmlxgettext took care for that
20110530 22:51:11< anonymissimus> that is, if it did check that none of the extracted strings is identical to any of the other
20110530 22:52:40< Espreon> Oh, he's probably long gone...
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20110530 23:01:30< boucman> zaroth: no need, unless you want advice, you seem to be doing well
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