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20110524 08:07:52-!- Topic for #wesnoth-umc-dev: Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon, shadowmaster | Blog: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net/blog/ | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net
20110524 08:07:52-!- Topic set by shadowmaster [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] [Sat Apr 23 22:23:53 2011]
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20110524 14:45:24< fendrin> Espreon: hi#
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20110524 16:19:19< Espreon> fendrin: Hello.
20110524 16:19:52< Espreon> fendrin: What do you need?
20110524 16:21:01< fendrin> Espreon: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=33357
20110524 16:21:56< fendrin> Espreon: And the related bug report. I am going to repair the illumination issue right now.
20110524 16:22:15< Espreon> OK.
20110524 16:22:27< fendrin> I don't think you can do anything about the mainline multiplayer situation as well.
20110524 16:23:06< Espreon> fendrin: Hmmm?
20110524 16:23:27< fendrin> He suspects his patch to be applied. 
20110524 16:23:48< fendrin> And I would do so as well on his point of view.
20110524 16:24:11< fendrin> But I can only fix the bug that causes illumination not to work with liminal.
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20110524 16:24:36< fendrin> You can consider about applying the UtBS part of his patch.
20110524 16:24:57< fendrin> The mainline part would to be discussed with at least some other developers.
20110524 16:25:06< fendrin> I don't think that is even worth a try.
20110524 16:25:14< Espreon> fendrin: Honestly, this is causing a lot of problems... Oi...
20110524 16:25:54< fendrin> Which problems?
20110524 16:27:26< Espreon> 1. Liminal units don't thrive with the default schedule (I doubt anyone's gonna want to redo it)
20110524 16:27:44< fendrin> That is what his patch is for.
20110524 16:27:47< Espreon> 2. Different crepuscular creatures work differently, thus per-unit stuff needs to be added
20110524 16:27:58< Espreon> fendrin: What does it do exactly?
20110524 16:28:12< Espreon> Does it just add liminal_bonus= stuff, or does it add more times?
20110524 16:29:15< fendrin> Well, his patch is very easy to read.
20110524 16:29:43< Espreon> I don't have adequate software for viewing patches on this. Unless it's in DOS endings... yeah..
20110524 16:30:55< fendrin> It just adds liminal_bonus= to existing times. Times in the utbs schedule and to the mainline default schedule as well.
20110524 16:31:20< fendrin> I do not to suggest you to apply the patch. 
20110524 16:31:27< Espreon> Yeah, liminal units can't thrive in the default schedule.
20110524 16:31:31< Espreon> I don't wanna.
20110524 16:32:18< fendrin> That is not what I asked you.
20110524 16:32:52< fendrin> It is about UtBS I asked.
20110524 16:33:33< Espreon> What do you wish to know?
20110524 16:34:29< fendrin> What to answer to Elvish Hunter.
20110524 16:34:50< fendrin> It is clear that the patch will not be applied.
20110524 16:35:05< Espreon> Yes.
20110524 16:35:25< Espreon> Just say that it shan't be applied.
20110524 16:35:40< fendrin> But communicating the utbs related answer to up to you.
20110524 16:35:59< fendrin> I can't tell him what will happen there.
20110524 16:36:27< Espreon> Tell him that there will be no liminal crap in UtBS until the redesign has been finished.
20110524 16:37:27< Espreon> Honestly, I wish this alignment weren't.
20110524 16:37:41< fendrin> Then just state that utbs will not use it.
20110524 16:37:52< fendrin> And it is no longer your problem any more.
20110524 16:38:28< fendrin> That would suit me as well.
20110524 16:38:35< Espreon> Why are we keeping this? It's just causing problems.
20110524 16:38:47< Espreon> Three is awesome. There needn't be more than three.
20110524 16:39:10< fendrin> I will use it for some UMC stuff and others might be. 
20110524 16:39:30< fendrin> It is only causing problems when used.
20110524 16:39:50< Espreon> It'd be better to just have a way to define new alignments.
20110524 16:40:04< fendrin> Yes, that would be very nice.
20110524 16:40:08< fendrin> I have considered that.
20110524 16:40:17< Espreon> And what stopped you?
20110524 16:40:35< fendrin> Limited time.
20110524 16:40:45< Espreon> Excuses... excuses...
20110524 16:40:54< fendrin> It's not a priority since liminal is working for me as it is.
20110524 16:41:23< Espreon> fendrin, I am disappoint.
20110524 16:41:41< fendrin> Why?
20110524 16:41:51< Espreon> Think about it.
20110524 16:42:04< fendrin> I don't know it.
20110524 16:43:23< fendrin> Do you need selfdefined alignments that badly? I thought you are fine with the 3 default ones?
20110524 16:43:47< Espreon> Yes, I do.
20110524 16:44:00< Espreon> More power for content creators.
20110524 16:44:28< fendrin> I will go for it when my current task list is empty.
20110524 16:44:48< fendrin> Some LoW stuff mostly. 
20110524 16:45:03< Espreon> Well, I know not what to do. If liminal be kept, I shall use it.
20110524 16:46:07< Espreon> fendrin: Well, just tell him that UtBS shan't use liminal till the redesign is finished.
20110524 16:46:12< Espreon> That is all that must be done.
20110524 16:47:05< fendrin> Fine, I had hoped you would have kept it out of UtBS. Then please answer to Elvish Hunter your self. I don't want to be the press speaker of all liminal related things or UtBS. 
20110524 16:48:07< Espreon> Why did you hope for such a thing?
20110524 16:49:20< fendrin> Because it would have kept the liminal feature to a pure UMC one. And no need for me to do anything related to it for UtBS.
20110524 16:49:48< Espreon> Well, then I shan't use it.
20110524 16:49:54< Espreon> Liminal be damned.
20110524 16:50:04< Espreon> Sadly, I have to go now.
20110524 16:51:06< fendrin> bye
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20110524 23:20:10<+CIA-52> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r9688 /trunk/The_Earths_Gut/scenarios/07_The_bridge_is_broken.cfg: TEG: fixed a warning
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20110524 23:21:31<+CIA-52> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r9690 /trunk/The_Earths_Gut/ (about.cfg scenarios/13t_Elvish_conference.cfg): TEG: dialog and story improvements by tr0ll
20110524 23:22:15<+CIA-52> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r9691 /trunk/The_Earths_Gut/scenarios/ (14_Forest_fire.cfg 15_Save_the_heir.cfg): TEG: dialog and story improvements by tr0ll
20110524 23:22:58<+CIA-52> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r9692 /trunk/The_Earths_Gut/utils/sides_and_unit-utils.cfg: TEG: removed unused macro IF_HAVE_UNIT_RECALL
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20110524 23:24:08<+CIA-52> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r9694 /trunk/The_Earths_Gut/lua/main.lua: TEG: correct patch
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