--- Log opened Mon Jun 06 00:00:18 2011 20110606 00:03:19< zaroth> jpi80: generally, it depends on what kind of people are hanging in the channel at the moment 20110606 00:04:03< jpi80> ok, lets probe the kind of people... 20110606 00:04:19< jpi80> I finally started with the Interactive Timeline. I have more or less a plan I will see how it goes. I am waiting your ideas on design. I will put updates here. http://ubuntuone.com/p/xa0/ (note that I am using the map in your server). Forum post here: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=34020&p=491590#p491590 20110606 00:04:34< zaroth> I don't think anybody will mind website development discussion here, but since people involved with it are rather using the forums more, it's probably better to use the forums 20110606 00:05:17< shadowmaster> zaroth: uhhhhhhh, not really 20110606 00:05:36< shadowmaster> I mean, our system admins don't use the forums much, and we don't have any dedicated web developers. 20110606 00:06:16< zaroth> shadowmaster: well, I meant LordBob, which happened to be planning currently a website redesign on the forums 20110606 00:06:54< zaroth> I don't think I've ever seen him on irc 20110606 00:07:36-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20110606 00:07:40< shadowmaster> I still wonder whether that includes coding it or just designing, providing mock-ups and layout parts 20110606 00:10:44< jpi80> Was that a hidden question ofr me? 20110606 00:11:05< shadowmaster> no, that was about LordBob's plan 20110606 00:11:13< jpi80> ok,... sorry 20110606 00:11:20-!- aston [~aston@196-215-72-58.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20110606 00:12:44-!- ssorgatem [~ssorgatem@178.pool85-50-65.dynamic.orange.es] has left #wesnoth-dev ["Konversation terminated!"] 20110606 00:14:49< zaroth> jpi80: as for the map, I like the general idea and what I've seen on the digitalhistory page 20110606 00:15:09< zaroth> but in your mockup I can see only the wesnoth map in PNG with a single icon linking to wiki... not really much to comment on, yet 20110606 00:16:37< jpi80> zaroth: Yeah, I have been deciding the strategy to do the work. I spend the weekend reading the different possibilites for combinint JS with SVG and other libraries. I think I have it more or less pinned down. Surprises will come of course. But now there is a plan. I will start adding content soon (tomorrow week starts, I do not have much time...but maybe I will :)) 20110606 00:17:38< zaroth> as for the ideas, you may want to give some more interesting mapping a try, like political split 20110606 00:17:53< jpi80> Sure! That is so easy now! 20110606 00:18:45< zaroth> you could do the outline in vector graphics and color it, like "orcs" "khalifate" "bad undeads"... but doing something like this will probably involve many consultations with authors on writing forum ;-) 20110606 00:19:05< jpi80> Just put the png map as background and draw your polygon in Inskcape or whatever you want! We just need the info. Also, I am thinking to connect the svg to a CVS to read the text from there. In that way we only edit a CVS table and not the svg 20110606 00:20:04< jpi80> zaroth: Yeah, that is no problem, just time. I will add all the events I can from the Turmoil of... from the time line. 20110606 00:20:33-!- deekay [~dk@89-79-35-236.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 00:20:33-!- deekay [~dk@89-79-35-236.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host] 20110606 00:20:33-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 00:20:34< jpi80> I will add the moving time ruler and the dynamic div that shows information (it gets fuzzy there...) 20110606 00:21:16< jpi80> By clicking the end points of the time rule, we move to different epochs, and the SVG overlay will change. 20110606 00:23:02< jpi80> This should help to create content in a more cohesive way and also (my reason to do this) help producing text,poems and comics 20110606 00:23:50< jpi80> ok, got to go! Thanks for the inputs. (political divisions is a go!) 20110606 00:23:59< zaroth> well, it's nice that Wesnoth project inspired you to undertake such a nice library ;-) 20110606 00:24:10< zaroth> good luck! 20110606 00:24:37< jpi80> Thanks! I will need it. 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Does someone know, how could I avoid this behavior? Since the value is parsed by Lua later, I really need the "true", cause Lua doesn't know what "yes" is 20110606 17:56:40< Soliton> there should be a function for lua to get the bool value of a string that supports the standard values we use. 20110606 18:00:35-!- p1mps [~p1mps@151.65.23.32] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:00:53< nephro> I don't get it... And I don't need a bool value for "yes", I need to give Lua "true" so it can work with it. Of course, I could do "if cfg[value]=='yes' then value = 'true'", but that doesn't look too good does it? 20110606 18:01:46< nephro> Converting "true" to "yes" and then back to "true" doesn't seem like a good solution to me 20110606 18:01:58< Soliton> if you have a string and want to know it's boolean value you need something like that, yes. 20110606 18:02:27< Soliton> s/it's/its/ 20110606 18:03:22< Soliton> if you put everything in " quotes i have no idea when you mean a string and when a real bool, btw. 20110606 18:03:56< nephro> Soliton, I use quotes, because they are all strings 20110606 18:04:13< nephro> The string needs to be passed to a handler constructor, which compiles it 20110606 18:04:29< nephro> It obviously can't deal with "return yes" 20110606 18:04:48< nephro> Since this code always returns nil 20110606 18:05:16< Soliton> if it's all about strings then i don't see the issue/confusion. 20110606 18:05:35< Soliton> there are simply several ways you can specifiy a bool in WML. 20110606 18:05:54< nephro> I don't want that, I want a string that is equal to "true" 20110606 18:06:10 * Soliton shrugs. 20110606 18:07:27< nephro> Soliton, will WML convert all "true" strings into "yes"? 20110606 18:07:45< nephro> or is it specific to "value" attributes? 20110606 18:13:21-!- jpi80 [~juanpi@xdsl-188-155-144-225.adslplus.ch] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:26:09-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.222] has quit [Quit: bye all see ya later :D] 20110606 18:27:15-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@88.103.82.122] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:29:03-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-006-134.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:30:22< anonymissimus> could someone who has an official windows release installed please test the following: bring up the command line in a scenario and press AltGr to type e.g. an @ 20110606 18:31:09< anonymissimus> possibly this requires also an appropriate keyboard layout (that is, must have an AltGr key and tokens accessible through it) 20110606 18:33:23< loonycyborg> I don't have such a key. 20110606 18:33:48< loonycyborg> (afaik that's something totally different than plain alt) 20110606 18:34:55< anonymissimus> I'm currently researching this bug (which is particularly annoying if one wants to type lua commands due to { not working) 20110606 18:35:22< anonymissimus> it looks as if it maybe did never work on win (but it does on Linux) 20110606 18:35:47< loonycyborg> How come you need altgr to type { ? 20110606 18:36:02< anonymissimus> possibly a bug in SDL since for a single AltGr press it raises not only that event, btu also a left ctrl 20110606 18:36:38< anonymissimus> thats just teh layout of a German keyboard 20110606 18:36:53< anonymissimus> { is in the bottom right corner of 7 20110606 18:37:08-!- melinath [~anonymous@ip-168-50.main.oberlin.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110606 18:37:20< loonycyborg> That is the price they pay for having umlauts? :P 20110606 18:37:33< anonymissimus> maybe ;) 20110606 18:38:01< Crendgrim> no ... for using Windows. 20110606 18:38:41-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:42:39-!- Valkier [~Valkier@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:42:40< Soliton> nephro: yes. nothing specific to special attributes. 20110606 18:47:17-!- Max20010 [~chatzilla@d91-128-237-111.cust.tele2.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:52:16-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-006-134.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101206122310]] 20110606 18:54:07-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:55:46-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-006-134.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:57:19-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-91-12.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110606 18:58:07-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: I ATE'NT DEAD] 20110606 18:58:22-!- alienav [alienav@77.126.152.200] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 18:59:34-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 19:08:58-!- deekay [~dk@89-79-35-236.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 19:08:58-!- deekay [~dk@89-79-35-236.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host] 20110606 19:08:58-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 19:09:03< anonymissimus> should I use the win32 define to make code windows-specific ? or windows ? 20110606 19:09:20< anonymissimus> the former is not set on 64 bit I guess ? 20110606 19:09:25< loonycyborg> #ifdef _WIN32 20110606 19:09:50-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-66-188.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 19:09:58< timotei> anonymissimus: hmm.. I'm not sure we should fill the source code with a lot of ifdefs just for msvc :-S 20110606 19:10:20< anonymissimus> not MSVC this time, OS 20110606 19:10:43< anonymissimus> and we have a lot of #ifdef this or that os 20110606 19:10:58< anonymissimus> even for obscure ones 20110606 19:11:19< timotei> oh. for OS it's fine :P. I was worried reading C++ code with a lot of #pragma push and pop 20110606 19:11:21< timotei> and so 20110606 19:11:25< anonymissimus> ever seen AMIGAOS 4 or what it was called :P 20110606 19:13:20-!- molgrum [~molgrum@h-188-142.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 19:13:47-!- molgrum [~molgrum@h-188-142.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20110606 19:15:02< anonymissimus> btw timotei you dont have an official win release installed ? ;) 20110606 19:15:19< timotei> anonymissimus: hm 20110606 19:15:25< timotei> anonymissimus: I do have 1.9.4 iirc 20110606 19:15:26< timotei> why? 20110606 19:15:58< anonymissimus> do you have and AltGr key on your keyboard ? 20110606 19:16:13< timotei> the right? Alt? 20110606 19:16:35< timotei> I have 2 alts. So the second (in the right) must be AltGr right? 20110606 19:20:41-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-66-188.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110606 19:24:46< negusnyul> anonymissimus: I have 1.8.6 installed, is that good for testing this? 20110606 19:28:10< anonymissimus> timotei: afaik if it's only a "right alt" then no, it must be labeled AltGr 20110606 19:28:22< anonymissimus> negusnyul: yes 20110606 19:29:07< anonymissimus> pls bring up the cmd line and try typing a token which can only be get via AltGr 20110606 19:29:27-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g224177184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110606 19:29:37< timotei> anonymissimus: hmm 20110606 19:29:43< anonymissimus> (but I no longer need it, it seems that SDl is behaving correctly) 20110606 19:29:55< anonymissimus> and that its just teh way windows handles it 20110606 19:30:05< negusnyul> anonymissimus: I cannot type @ or { or }, usually I use AltGr for that (my layout is hungarian, on win7) 20110606 19:30:32< anonymissimus> negusnyul: ok yes thx 20110606 19:30:46< anonymissimus> for me the same 20110606 19:32:07-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-29-57.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 19:38:00-!- p1mps [~p1mps@151.65.23.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20110606 19:40:30-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-29-57.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110606 20:03:04-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:05:29-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:08:29-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-85-191.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:08:55-!- mordante [~mordante@roadie.xs4all.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:08:55-!- mordante [~mordante@roadie.xs4all.nl] has quit [Changing host] 20110606 20:08:55-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:09:07< mordante> servus 20110606 20:10:12< boucman> hey all 20110606 20:10:19< mordante> hi boucman 20110606 20:10:30< boucman> zaroth: so, how is it going ? 20110606 20:15:14-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-85-191.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110606 20:23:47< zaroth> hello boucman 20110606 20:23:56< zaroth> not bad 20110606 20:26:15< boucman> good, when do you think you'll be ready for commit+ could you post your current dif so I can have a look ? 20110606 20:26:19-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-144-59.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:31:24< zaroth> let me have a look... 20110606 20:32:10< zaroth> I still have about 15 commands unsupported yet 20110606 20:32:51-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-92-87.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:33:12< zaroth> but since I already wrote needed helper functions, I hope I'll be able to do them quickly 20110606 20:33:51-!- Sytyi [~Sytyi@236-51-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:34:31< boucman> k, sounds good 20110606 20:37:28< zaroth> as for the diffs, I'll send them in a sec 20110606 20:37:41 * zaroth just learned about git format-patch 20110606 20:39:08-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-92-87.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110606 20:39:26< timotei> zaroth: I'm wondering, why not work on a branch ? 20110606 20:39:29< timotei> working* 20110606 20:39:37< timotei> it would be easier/faster :P 20110606 20:40:34< zaroth> timotei: probably because I don't know yet how to do it. is it easily interfacable with git-svn? (I vastly prefer git) 20110606 20:41:28< timotei> zaroth: well, yeah. Why not? 20110606 20:41:32< timotei> iirc AI0867 uses that 20110606 20:42:35< boucman> timotei: no need so far, zaroth's changes are small chunks that are interesting independantly, but if bigger changes take place we might go on branches 20110606 20:42:46< timotei> oh. ok :P 20110606 20:45:54-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has quit [Changing host] 20110606 20:45:54-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:48:15-!- melinath [~anonymous@ip-168-50.main.oberlin.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:50:12< zaroth> boucman: sent 20110606 20:51:54< boucman> you didn't pastebin ? 20110606 20:51:55< boucman> ok 20110606 20:53:02-!- Valkier [~Valkier@c-174-55-104-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Valkier] 20110606 20:55:32-!- ettin [~jorda@212.206.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:55:45-!- ettin [~jorda@212.206.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Changing host] 20110606 20:55:45-!- ettin [~jorda@wesnoth/developer/ettin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:56:08-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-173-219-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ...] 20110606 20:57:08< mordante> zaroth, do you use git branches? 20110606 20:57:18-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-133-196.w90-18.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 20:57:21< zaroth> mordante: of course 20110606 20:57:45< mordante> ok good, then I don't need to tell you how nice they are 20110606 20:58:03< eoc> :) 20110606 20:58:50-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110606 20:59:12< zaroth> mordante: you were the one who taught me about ccache so I could become more efficient switching branches ;-) 20110606 20:59:41< mordante> :-) 20110606 21:00:14< boucman> hehe 20110606 21:00:25< boucman> zaroth: i like the git stats of your first patch :P 20110606 21:03:54< boucman> zaroth: not much to say... looks good 20110606 21:04:43< zaroth> thanks :-) 20110606 21:09:50-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has quit [Quit: deekay] 20110606 21:11:34< Sytyi> mordante: hi! Do project already has any libs to work with XML files? 20110606 21:13:55< boucman> no, why would you need one ? 20110606 21:14:16< mordante> Sytyi, what boucman said 20110606 21:16:25< Sytyi> mordante: I thought, that if we need to save schema file, why cant we use XML. Then a list of problems (save & read) will be skipped. 20110606 21:16:57< Sytyi> mordante: But I'd rather avoid adding new dependencies. 20110606 21:17:34< boucman> hmm, schema files don't need to be xml schemas, you could define your own grammar description language based on WML, but defininf that sort of stuff is complicated, i'm not sure it's a good idea... 20110606 21:17:41< boucman> so I kinda see your point 20110606 21:18:17< boucman> otoh we wouldn't be able to leverage the power of xsd anyway since WML isn't XML, we couldn't reuse standard verification tools 20110606 21:18:45< boucman> (unless we define a WML<=>XML conversion tool to the run standard XML tools, but is it worth the effort... 20110606 21:18:55< mordante> Sytyi, I think WML would be the better choice for the schemas unless we run into trouble 20110606 21:19:28< mordante> Sytyi, I'm rather reluctant to add dependencies, especially since WML and XML overlap in a large part 20110606 21:20:01< Sytyi> boucman: I dont thought about xml schema like xsd, I just wanted to save schema info in file, only once to design an XSD to verify that file. 20110606 21:20:15< mordante> boucman, not sure whether it's worth the effort especially since it also affects our tools 20110606 21:20:30< Sytyi> mordante: Adding new dependencies is bad, so no XML at all. 20110606 21:20:57-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 21:21:25< mordante> Sytyi, unless we hit a wall using XML I don't see a reason to switch tools 20110606 21:21:58< mordante> the engine has WML support, XML support needs to be added and then find the "best" library 20110606 21:22:41< Sytyi> mordante: Schould I think about WML definitions of tag, key etc, or something from my proposition will be good? 20110606 21:22:51-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h146n3fls33o279.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20110606 21:23:25< Sytyi> mordante: as said here http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GSoC_2011_Sytyi#Schema_file 20110606 21:26:32-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-144-59.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20110606 21:26:48-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h146n3fls33o279.telia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 21:26:58< anonymissimus> negusnyul: I've fixed it; one more win only bug has left us :) 20110606 21:27:12< mordante> Sytyi, I'd like to focus on the gui2 part first so let's focus on the canvas part first 20110606 21:28:36< mordante> the example listed here http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GUICanvasWMLSchemaExample obviously isn't valid WML 20110606 21:28:45< Sytyi> mordante: Dont get an idea. What schould I do? Annotate canvas.cpp / write SG tool, 20110606 21:29:11< mordante> Sytyi, no but you show a sample for scenario here http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GSoC_2011_Sytyi#Schema_file 20110606 21:29:23< mordante> and the canvas here http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GUICanvasWMLSchemaExample 20110606 21:29:31-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-006-134.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316074819]] 20110606 21:29:40< mordante> so I'd like to improve the canvas part and ignore the scenario for now 20110606 21:29:52< Sytyi> mordante: Yes. So there are to ways - make program to read that, and make all WML. 20110606 21:30:20< Sytyi> mordante: Let me try to find, I was working on it in beginning of May 20110606 21:31:51< mordante> Sytyi, true, but the idea is to use markup in the sources and convert that to a schema file in WML 20110606 21:32:28< mordante> so IMO the schema example should directly be in WML and not be parsed a second time 20110606 21:32:49< mordante> also I like to work on the source markup format first 20110606 21:33:16< mordante> once we know what kind of annotations we have and need we can look how to translate that into a schema 20110606 21:37:00-!- alkenrinnstet [~alkenrinn@bb121-7-130-176.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20110606 21:37:13-!- alkenrinnstet [~alkenrinn@bb121-7-130-176.singnet.com.sg] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 21:41:14-!- alkenrinnstet [~alkenrinn@bb121-7-130-176.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110606 21:41:25-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-006-134.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 21:41:41-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 21:42:16< mordante> Sytyi, any more questions for now or can you proceed? (I'm about to leave) 20110606 21:43:18< nephro> Evening, Crab_ 20110606 21:43:27< Crab_> hi, nephro 20110606 21:43:29< Crab_> how it's going ? 20110606 21:44:50< nephro> Almost good, but today was a fail... Continued exposing aspect getters, when found that bool aspects don't work correctly. After reading the code for 100 times, I've discovered, that WML seems to convert "true" to "yes" 20110606 21:44:56< Sytyi> mordante: Ok, good evening. I will end with wiki page of format today. Only say me how it will be best to show you annotated files. 20110606 21:45:15< nephro> I can't pass "yes" to lua, since it treats that as nil 20110606 21:46:14< mordante> Sytyi, just put the annotation you want to put in canvas.cpp on the wiki 20110606 21:46:31< nephro> All I can think of is explicitly checking whether WML converted value to "yes" and convert it back to "true", but such double conversions don't look good to my eye, so I decided to wait for you and ask 20110606 21:46:33< mordante> that way we can read and fine-tune it 20110606 21:46:48< mordante> once it's 'perfect' it can be added to the actual file 20110606 21:47:33< Sytyi> mordante: maybe you can point me some more files to annotate? I already had processed a little /src/gui/widgets/ 20110606 21:48:31< mordante> Sytyi, I like to do one file at first, that way we can find a good format before doing all files 20110606 21:48:48< mordante> but all files under gui need to be done eventually 20110606 21:48:55< Sytyi> mordante: No problem. 20110606 21:49:18< mordante> we probably need a few iterations before we get things right 20110606 21:49:21< nephro> Crab_, with this solved, I plan to finish the aspect getters(and code related to creation and getting of a lua aspect[converters to a certain type, etc]), clean up on the wiki, and start thinking about something else. By the way, I've took initiative and moved the old LuaAI page to create space for a new, clean one 20110606 21:49:32< nephro> Since the old one contained lots of unrelated info 20110606 21:49:41< Crab_> nephro: good for the initiative. 20110606 21:49:42< mordante> Sytyi, so better test and modify one file instead of several and have to redo them all 20110606 21:50:13< mordante> anonymissimus, seems exasperation figured out how to compile ;-) https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?18165 20110606 21:50:13< Sytyi> Tomorrow I will devote the whole day to this stuff. At last I can work on interesting things :) ! 20110606 21:50:30< mordante> great :-) 20110606 21:51:00< anonymissimus> yeah, what did I say; he can do it! 20110606 21:51:12< Crab_> nephro: regarding boolean aspects, I recommend doing your workaround for now, (mark the place with a @todo), and someone (you, me, etc) will fix it later. 20110606 21:51:14< mordante> Sytyi, can you try to be online around 18:00 GMT so we can discuss it a bit further? 20110606 21:51:24< mordante> Sytyi, then I should have more time to talk 20110606 21:51:24< Sytyi> mordante: OK. 20110606 21:51:31< nephro> Crab_, consider that done 20110606 21:51:36< Crab_> great 20110606 21:52:05< mordante> anonymissimus, indeed, well it's nice to have more testers (and even better to know the bug is fixed) 20110606 21:52:34< anonymissimus> I will encourage him to submit some patches now ;) 20110606 21:52:43< mordante> :-) 20110606 21:52:43< Crab_> nephro: I will be more-or-less afk from 11 to 22nd june (occasional internet access while travelling), so I'm asking you to ask any questions you have, before that. 20110606 21:53:08< Crab_> nephro: also, after 22nd, I'll do a small review of things that were done, and see if we are on track wrt the gsoc stuff 20110606 21:53:34< Crab_> nephro: I will also see if it's ok the way we have here or, maybe, you need more guidance/help. 20110606 21:53:44< mordante> I'm off now night 20110606 21:53:58< Sytyi> mordante: bye 20110606 21:54:04< nephro> Crab_, ok then, I will prepare some. Maybe you can leave me your email address, that is a more or less stable communication tool. 20110606 21:54:05< Crab_> nephro: one idea that I was toying with, is for me to make a bigger lua ai test scenario, with some patrol-like stuff in formulas made in lua 20110606 21:54:11-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20110606 21:54:20< Crab_> nephro: email sent via query 20110606 21:54:26< nephro> Yes, thanks 20110606 21:54:39< Crab_> nephro: that way, with bigger lua ai test scenario, I'd be able to 'test' your code, use the things you've exposed to lua 20110606 21:54:51< Crab_> nephro: and you'll be able to check if it's broken or not more easily. 20110606 21:54:55< Crab_> nephro: what do you think ? 20110606 21:56:00< nephro> Crab_, I had that idea too. I just thought that I will write one from scratch, containing just my exposed stuff 20110606 21:58:30< nephro> Crab_, about more guidance, well, I don't think that would be a big of a problem... I'll just try to take more into my hands, while you're gone, and try to build discrete stuff, so that it would be easy to refactor in case I totally screw up :) 20110606 22:00:05< Crab_> ok, good 20110606 22:00:14< Crab_> commit the one you had from scratch, as well. 20110606 22:00:25< Crab_> make it a test scenario as well 20110606 22:01:04< CIA-94> anonymissimus * r49778 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: 20110606 22:01:04< CIA-94> added a more conveniant way to test arbitrary lua (and wml action) code to the test scenario 20110606 22:01:04< CIA-94> without the need to restart after changes 20110606 22:01:07< CIA-94> anonymissimus * r49779 /trunk/src/preferences_display.cpp: mute an MSVC warning about a possibly uninitialized variable 20110606 22:01:10< CIA-94> anonymissimus * r49780 /trunk/ (changelog src/widgets/textbox.cpp): fixed the ingame command line not accepting characters accessible via AltGr (certain keyboard layouts) on windows systems 20110606 22:02:35-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@145.236.66.70] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110606 22:03:57-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110606 22:07:03-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-006-134.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101206122310]] 20110606 22:09:15< nephro> Crab_, I wanted to ask. The registry.cpp - is it a beautiful solution or a works-for-me workaround? 20110606 22:09:54< Crab_> nephro: it is a workaround, but it is a good workaround. 20110606 22:10:15< Crab_> nephro: we want to accociate a string name with a c++ class, and this is achieved by 1-line definition. looks good to me 20110606 22:10:54< Crab_> nephro: gui2 uses a similar approach now, it's way easier that the previous method mordante used 20110606 22:11:30< nephro> Crab_, well I think it is cool, but it leaves me with a feeling of hardcode presence(which I do not love much) 20110606 22:12:07< Crab_> nephro: well, we want to allow a user to call a c++ class from his code 20110606 22:12:23< Crab_> nephro: so, we need to make some kind of table in c++ code for that, or code which fills up this table 20110606 22:12:41< Crab_> nephro: user deals in WML/lua 20110606 22:12:55< Crab_> nephro: note the lua function tables, which are declared in table-style. 20110606 22:13:28-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20110606 22:14:07< Crab_> nephro: I'm thinking about making some king of 'kingdom simulation' - i.e. a map in which several AIs will obey some stupid rules set forth by me to avoid 'total annihilation' - i.e., let them stay in their borders, make funny patrols, etc 20110606 22:15:19-!- p1mps [~p1mps@151.65.21.118] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 22:16:37< nephro> Crab_, sounds fun :) 20110606 22:17:19< nephro> Actually sounds both fun and challenging 20110606 22:18:32< nephro> But I gotta go now, lets discuss that tomorrow, if you'll be here 20110606 22:18:35< nephro> Good night 20110606 22:18:47< Crab_> nephro: night 20110606 22:19:01< Crab_> nephro: it's worth doing things that are fun :) 20110606 22:22:23-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h146n3fls33o279.telia.com] has quit [] 20110606 22:23:31-!- knotwork_ [~markm@142.177.232.29] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 22:23:31-!- knotwork_ [~markm@142.177.232.29] has quit [Changing host] 20110606 22:23:31-!- knotwork_ [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 22:26:51-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20110606 22:27:21< CIA-94> ivanovic * r49781 /trunk/po/wesnoth-tsg/de.po: updated German translation 20110606 22:40:29-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-006-134.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 22:46:32< anonymissimus> boucman: btw you can assign that time area bug you asked me about to me; no idea whether I manage to fix it however 20110606 22:49:48-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110606 22:51:15< boucman> ok, i'll do that right away... 20110606 22:52:06-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: SIGKILL] 20110606 22:52:07< boucman> done 20110606 22:53:34-!- Alarantalara [~alarantal@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 22:58:38-!- nephro [~Dmitry@80.233.231.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110606 23:02:32-!- alienav [alienav@77.126.152.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110606 23:13:52-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110606 23:17:59-!- jpi80 [~juanpi@xdsl-188-155-144-225.adslplus.ch] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20110606 23:25:38-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 23:30:51-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20110606 23:38:08-!- alienav [alienav@77.127.229.226] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110606 23:43:36-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110606 23:44:12-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20110606 23:50:34-!- melinath [~anonymous@ip-168-50.main.oberlin.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] --- Log closed Tue Jun 07 00:00:18 2011