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20110609 00:01:11< loonycyborg> zaroth: ccache=true
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20110609 00:12:08< boucman> night all
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20110609 01:56:47< zaroth> anybody knows why none of the --proxy-* options aren't documented in --help?
20110609 01:57:22< zaroth> just because nobody took the time or are they experimental/hidden features?
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20110609 08:23:30< Soliton> zaroth: i guess they're experimental and only available with ANA. no reason not to document them though.
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20110609 10:40:15< zaroth> who knows what option --label does? it's undocumented
20110609 10:41:15< zaroth> (at least in --help)
20110609 10:41:21< zaroth> and in man wesnoth as well...
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20110609 10:45:12< loonycyborg> zaroth: Where did you find it then?
20110609 10:45:22< zaroth> loonycyborg: in parsing code?
20110609 10:45:29< zaroth> grep game_controller for --label
20110609 10:45:37< zaroth> there are a few other undocumented params as well
20110609 10:45:41< zaroth> like --proxy*
20110609 10:46:00< zaroth> but unlike them, I don't know what --label does
20110609 10:46:25< loonycyborg> I though they all should be in game.cpp
20110609 10:46:40< zaroth> well, in the old code they were spread all across three functions
20110609 10:46:44< loonycyborg> But searing there yields nothing useful.
20110609 10:46:51< loonycyborg> *searching
20110609 10:46:55< zaroth> game_controller.cpp
20110609 10:48:53< loonycyborg> It looks like those options are used to launch an mp scenario from command line.
20110609 10:51:00< zaroth> ...
20110609 10:51:32< zaroth> well, I certainly knew that much after spending that much time with this code, but thanks anyway
20110609 10:51:42< zaroth> I just wanted to know what purpose specifically --label serves
20110609 10:52:23< zaroth> looks like it's used for logging
20110609 10:55:20< Ivanovic> zaroth: would be cool if you completely documented your findings later on
20110609 10:55:48< zaroth> Ivanovic: I'm doing this, of course
20110609 10:55:56< zaroth> if nothing unexpected happens I should commit in about an hour
20110609 10:56:01< Ivanovic> great!
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20110609 11:02:27< loonycyborg> zaroth: My point was to ask crab about them since he's doing some automated ai testing, perhaps with those very options.
20110609 11:02:50< zaroth> loonycyborg: good idea, thanks :-)
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20110609 11:33:49< Soliton> might be that it displays all those ai evaluation labels.
20110609 11:34:47< Soliton> shouldn't be that difficult to either follow the code to where the option is used or check the commit that introduced it.
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20110609 11:52:21< CIA-94> zaroth * r49798 /trunk/src/ (commandline_options.cpp commandline_options.hpp game.cpp): 
20110609 11:52:21< CIA-94> Moved responsibility for help display over to commandline_options. Added
20110609 11:52:21< CIA-94> support for options config-dir, data-dir, help, new-syntax, path,
20110609 11:52:21< CIA-94> version.
20110609 11:52:23< CIA-94> zaroth * r49799 /trunk/src/ (commandline_options.cpp game_controller.cpp): 
20110609 11:52:23< CIA-94> adding bpp, load, no-cache, validcache, with-replay commands support to
20110609 11:52:23< CIA-94> the commandline_options and game_controller.
20110609 11:52:25< CIA-94> zaroth * r49797 /trunk/src/ (6 files): 
20110609 11:52:25< CIA-94> Started fleshing out the new commandline_options class. Added support
20110609 11:52:25< CIA-94> for several simple switches and linked it inside game_controller and
20110609 11:52:25< CIA-94> parse_command_args().
20110609 11:52:25< CIA-94> zaroth * r49800 /trunk/src/game_controller.cpp: Implemented --max-fps option support in commandline_options. However, the old parsing code wasn't completely removed due to lexical_cast_default() template linking issue. FIXME note left about that.
20110609 11:52:27< CIA-94> zaroth * r49801 /trunk/src/game_controller.cpp: Added support in cmdline_options for following options: debug
20110609 11:52:32< CIA-94> zaroth * r49802 /trunk/src/ (3 files): Added support for --multiplayer option in commandline_options and its suboptions
20110609 11:52:32< CIA-94> zaroth * r49803 /trunk/src/ (commandline_options.cpp commandline_options.hpp): started using boost::tuple to group logically bound variables in commandline_options, dropped use of std::pair
20110609 11:52:34< CIA-94> zaroth * r49804 /trunk/src/ (CMakeLists.txt SConscript tests/test_commandline_options.cpp): Added unit test for commandline_options.
20110609 11:52:37< CIA-94> zaroth * r49805 /trunk/src/ (commandline_options.cpp tests/test_commandline_options.cpp): 
20110609 11:52:37< CIA-94> completed unit test to current functionality and fixed a few options on
20110609 11:52:37< CIA-94> the way
20110609 11:52:39< CIA-94> zaroth * r49806 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added config-path, gunzip and gzip options to commandline_options class
20110609 11:52:42< CIA-94> zaroth * r49807 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
20110609 11:52:42< CIA-94> Added logdomains, preprocess-output-macros and rng-seed to
20110609 11:52:42< CIA-94> commandline_options.
20110609 11:52:44< CIA-94> zaroth * r49808 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20110609 11:52:44< CIA-94> added --preprocess, --preprocess-defines and --preprocess-input-macros
20110609 11:52:44< CIA-94> to commandline_options
20110609 11:52:46< CIA-94> zaroth * r49809 /trunk/src/commandline_options.cpp: created new category for preprocessor options
20110609 11:52:50< CIA-94> zaroth * r49810 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
20110609 11:52:50< CIA-94> Added --screenshot and --log to commandline_options. This makes game.cpp
20110609 11:52:50< CIA-94> completely migrated to using of the new class.
20110609 11:52:52< CIA-94> zaroth * r49811 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Added resolution and nogui options to commandline_options.
20110609 11:52:54< CIA-94> zaroth * r49812 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added fullscreen, smallgui, windowed options to commandline_options
20110609 11:52:57< CIA-94> zaroth * r49813 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
20110609 11:52:57< CIA-94> Added debug-dot-domain, debug-dot-level, server, test options to
20110609 11:52:57< CIA-94> commandline_options.
20110609 11:53:00< CIA-94> zaroth * r49814 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): added support for positional options in commandline_options
20110609 11:53:03< CIA-94> zaroth * r49815 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added clock, nodelay, nomusic, nosound options to commandline_options
20110609 11:53:05< CIA-94> zaroth * r49816 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added proxy* options to commandline_options.
20110609 11:53:07< CIA-94> zaroth * r49817 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): added editor to commandline_options
20110609 11:53:10< CIA-94> zaroth * r49818 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20110609 11:53:10< CIA-94> Added campaign, campaign-difficulty and campaign-scenario to
20110609 11:53:10< CIA-94> commandline_options. (previous option was --campaign with weird syntax
20110609 11:53:10< CIA-94> afterwards)
20110609 11:53:13< CIA-94> zaroth * r49819 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Added exit-at-end and turns options to commandline_options
20110609 11:53:15< CIA-94> zaroth * r49820 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
20110609 11:53:15< CIA-94> Added scenario, side options to commandline_options. Also changed and
20110609 11:53:15< CIA-94> documented the helper functions in this class a bit.
20110609 11:53:20< CIA-94> zaroth * r49821 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): added controller, era and label options to commandline_options
20110609 11:53:24< CIA-94> zaroth * r49822 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added algorithm option to commandline_options.
20110609 11:53:27< CIA-94> zaroth * r49824 /trunk/src/ (game.cpp game_controller.cpp game_controller.hpp): 
20110609 11:53:27< CIA-94> got rid of argc and argv from game_controller class - they're redundant
20110609 11:53:27< CIA-94> now.
20110609 11:53:32< CIA-94> zaroth * r49823 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Finished moving last option (parm) to commandline_options.
20110609 11:54:33< Espreon> Moar plz.
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20110609 12:04:16< zaroth> should I mention adding unit tests in changelog?
20110609 12:05:33< CIA-94> zaroth * r49825 /trunk/changelog: updated changelog with commandline option changes
20110609 12:05:35< zaroth> Espreon: here you go :-)
20110609 12:07:39< Espreon> ...
20110609 12:07:57< Espreon> It won't do.
20110609 12:09:03< Soliton> zaroth: updated the man page to the new syntax?
20110609 12:09:08< zaroth> Soliton: not yet
20110609 12:09:43< zaroth> I'll probably wait a day or two for suggestions and changes which will inevitably come
20110609 12:10:05< zaroth> also, I added some categorization, which probably could be done even a bit further and it would be useful to have it in manpage, too
20110609 12:11:11< zaroth> however, I was sick of non-commiting, but I couldn't leave it half done and break things for others
20110609 12:11:35< zaroth> and manpage change is non-breaking, I guess ;-)
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20110609 12:11:43< Soliton> ok. yes, the man page can wait a bit of course.
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20110609 12:20:25< zaroth> boucman, Crab_: I'll be here in the evening
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20110609 15:06:58< timotei> zaroth: thanks for your mail. It seems I'll need to adjust a bit the eclipse plugin for the new command line changes :)
20110609 15:15:48< timotei> zaroth: also, you should add player-visible changes to player_changelog aswell
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20110609 18:06:41< zaroth> timotei: no problem :-) I expect quite a few bug reports from you probably, since your plugin is probably the heaviest commandline user right now
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20110609 18:08:46< zaroth> timotei: as for the player visible changes... I thought it isn't "visible", but "easily noticeable and understandable" what differentiates the two changelogs - nearly every change can be classified as "visible". I think the % of players using commandline options at all doesn't justify putting the changes in players_changelog...
20110609 18:10:17 * Soliton agrees.
20110609 18:11:05< zaroth> Crab_: I'm here now if you wanted to discuss something (and I'm eager to hear your comments/nitpicks about code commited today, if any)
20110609 18:12:53< Crab_> zaroth: no, no comments so far. I guess that I'll have quite more time for comments in a few weeks, but so far quite busy at work (and leaving for a holiday soon). I've seen that you've committed the command-line options changes, so you can now return to the refactorings started earlier.
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20110609 18:13:14< Crab_> zaroth: if you've got any questions, I'll be happy to discuss.
20110609 18:13:55< zaroth> Crab_: rest assured that I'll bug you with some questions again in no time ;-)
20110609 18:14:05< Crab_> Great :)
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20110609 18:40:42< anonymissimus> zaroth: can you be more specific about this: "* dropped --log syntax (it's the same as --log-error)"
20110609 18:42:51< anonymissimus> if I was using --log-debug=scripting/lua would that be --log-error=scripting/lua now ?
20110609 18:43:13< anonymissimus> also note that these log domains can also be set via the ingame command line
20110609 18:43:44< anonymissimus> so you'd have to remove support there too, if I get this right
20110609 18:46:49< timotei> zaroth: oh. yeah ok :D
20110609 18:47:43< timotei> zaroth: as soon as I can resume the work I'll ping you if it happens something
20110609 18:48:05< timotei> zaroth: but you changes are pertinent. I hadn't thought too much at that time about designing them :P
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20110609 19:06:34< Gallaecio> loonycyborg: are you the one responsible for the Windows installer?
20110609 19:06:56< loonycyborg> Yes.
20110609 19:07:19< zaroth> timotei: so you were the one who created this amazing --campaign [[sth] sth [sth]] construct? :D
20110609 19:07:27< timotei> zaroth: yeah.. .:P
20110609 19:07:30< Gallaecio> loonycyborg: is it possible to translate the additional strings it uses?
20110609 19:07:31< timotei> and the preprocess monster aswell
20110609 19:07:32< timotei> xD
20110609 19:08:09< loonycyborg> Gallaecio: Theoretically yes, but it can get very involved.
20110609 19:08:11< zaroth> now I know whom to thank for letting me learn the limitations of boost::p_o ;_0
20110609 19:08:20< zaroth> ;-)
20110609 19:08:46< Gallaecio> loonycyborg: what does that mean, “it can get very involved”?
20110609 19:10:50< loonycyborg> I'd need to both study how i18n works in nsis and figure out a way to tie it into wesnoth's translation infrastructure.
20110609 19:11:22< timotei> zaroth: hehe :P
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20110609 19:14:27< zaroth> Ivanovic: by the way, since now every option uses separate description string, it's become very easy to make them translatable - there is no fancy formatting in these strings
20110609 19:14:30< zaroth> I don't know if there's such a need, though (to translate --help)
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20110609 19:35:26 * Soliton wonders what "dropped --log syntax" means as well.
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20110609 19:39:27< anonymissimus> zaroth: I wrote a bit recently about the log messages as they seemed to work for me here: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/InterfaceActionsWML#.5Bwml_message.5D in the wml_message section since its using the log domains
20110609 19:40:58< anonymissimus> according to what I wrote there the debug and info messages are emitted only when logger level debug or info, so error is not enough...
20110609 19:41:32< anonymissimus> (but the log levels did somehow confuse me anyway since ever :P)
20110609 19:41:35< zaroth> Soliton: well, there was possibility to specify, --log= --log-error= --log-warning= --log-info= --log-debug= . I removed only --log= which was an alias for --log-error= anyway
20110609 19:42:25< zaroth> if somebody really feels that the shorter version is needed, it should be trivial to add an alias
20110609 19:42:42< zaroth> however I went for Python's "explicit is better than implicit"
20110609 19:43:02< anonymissimus> ah ok; however you should probably make this more explicit in the changelog
20110609 19:45:11< zaroth> anonymissimus: is "dropped --log alias for --log-error" clear enough?
20110609 19:45:27< Soliton> boost program_options is not mentioned in INSTALL, btw.
20110609 19:45:37 * zaroth fixes
20110609 19:46:43< zaroth> hmmm... all the boost versions are 1.35
20110609 19:46:44< anonymissimus> zaroth: yes
20110609 19:47:03< anonymissimus> and thx for breaking one of my build systems xD
20110609 19:47:14< anonymissimus> seems loonys .a isnt enough
20110609 19:47:29< zaroth> I didn't test things with boost 1.35
20110609 19:48:09< zaroth> is there somebody to confirm? 1.35 isn't even in portage :(
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20110609 19:50:28< zaroth> even at debian stable they're using boost 1.42, though, so it's probably not a big issue anyway
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20110609 19:51:22< Soliton> debian stable has 1.42 so testing with that is probably enough.
20110609 19:51:31 * Soliton nods.
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20110609 19:52:07< zaroth> well, latest gentoo stable is 1.42 as well, so I guess I already tested that ;-0
20110609 19:52:08< zaroth> ;-)
20110609 19:55:11< CIA-94> zaroth * r49826 /trunk/ (INSTALL changelog): Minor readability fixes of changelog and INSTALL.
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20110609 20:53:54< anonymissimus> uh wow, I've gotten past the first errors
20110609 20:54:29< anonymissimus> zaroth: I'll let you know how many months it took me to get CodeBlocks to compile again :P
20110609 20:55:24< zaroth> anonymissimus: why did it exactly break? is it something with my code or just linking errors, or something else...?
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20110609 20:56:58< anonymissimus> your code is ok
20110609 20:57:17< anonymissimus> MSVC compiles and links fine
20110609 20:57:30< anonymissimus> since I solved it already for that
20110609 20:58:08< anonymissimus> btw you should probably include the boost headers using "" instead of <>
20110609 20:58:18< anonymissimus> <> is for system headers
20110609 20:58:31< zaroth> I never exactly got the difference, to be honest
20110609 20:58:41< zaroth> I just followed what other wesnoth code was doing
20110609 20:59:10< zaroth> (at least the parts that I had in front of me, maybe some other files are using "")
20110609 21:00:10< anonymissimus> are the 3 included headers in commandline_options,hpp everything you did add ?
20110609 21:00:53< zaroth> anonymissimus: yes, I didn't add boost headers anywhere else
20110609 21:01:20< zaroth> in fact, there are even some headers scheduled to be removed in game.cpp
20110609 21:01:21< Crab_> feather:/wesnoth/src%fgrep -Rni include ./ | grep boost | grep '>' | wc -l         gives 247
20110609 21:01:21< Crab_> feather:/wesnoth/src%fgrep -Rni include ./ | grep boost | grep -v '>' | wc -l       gives 3
20110609 21:01:47< Crab_> so, in wesnoth, boost headers are included using '<>'
20110609 21:02:27< anonymissimus> hm...and why ? (I also didnt get the difference)
20110609 21:02:39< timotei> I guess in the end it doesn't matter on newer compilers :)
20110609 21:03:00< timotei> maybe in the old times compilers had some problems with those
20110609 21:03:08< anonymissimus> timotei: did you get a new build on MSVC ? :P
20110609 21:03:13< timotei> but I think that <> is for "not-my-code" headers :)
20110609 21:03:34< timotei> anonymissimus: no. :P
20110609 21:03:39< anonymissimus> well, and boost isnt our code so I thought...
20110609 21:03:39< zaroth> timotei: finally a differentiation I can get :D
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20110609 21:03:56< timotei> anonymissimus: I was thinking trying to do that
20110609 21:04:10< timotei> but I decided it's better to learn for exams
20110609 21:04:15< timotei> (and let you do the hard job xD)
20110609 21:04:52< anonymissimus> well, actuakky it wanst har due to your download tip
20110609 21:04:54< timotei> anonymissimus: but I'll do it anyway if you won't.
20110609 21:05:04< timotei> har?
20110609 21:05:19< timotei> anonymissimus: since I  need to modify and test the plugin with the new syntax :)
20110609 21:05:25< anonymissimus> took only a few hours in MSVC, but CodeLBocks can be hard now
20110609 21:05:35< anonymissimus> hard
20110609 21:05:36< zaroth> why does MSVC require special treatment anyway? doesn't it understand cmakelists?
20110609 21:05:37< timotei> anonymissimus: you use codeblocks?
20110609 21:05:41< anonymissimus> y
20110609 21:05:47< timotei> zaroth: it doesn't need any special treatment
20110609 21:05:58< timotei> it just has his own ... file format like every thing out there
20110609 21:06:08< anonymissimus> zaroth: we dont use cmake with MSVC
20110609 21:06:10< zaroth> well, yet we have .msvproj or something like that in trunk
20110609 21:06:11< timotei> and dumping the format and using cmakelist will be a hell for backward compatability
20110609 21:06:17< timotei> vcproj*
20110609 21:06:47< zaroth> kdevelop just read the cmakelists.txt file and got everything it needed from this file
20110609 21:06:54< anonymissimus> the point of using MSVC is intellisense - the headers arent included in the cmake generated projectfile
20110609 21:06:57< timotei> MS is known for trying to have "too much" - and I mean it - backward compatiblity. I think that's the reason they couldn't bring too ground breaking changes to windows and all other products
20110609 21:07:13< zaroth> but I never used MSVC, so I would like to learn a bit about it quirks :-)
20110609 21:07:17< timotei> zaroth: because kdevelop uses cmake :P
20110609 21:07:31< timotei> and yeah, MSVC's intellisense is very good. I use Visual Assist X anyway xD
20110609 21:07:45< Crab_> > anonymissimus: the point of using MSVC is intellisense - the headers arent included in the cmake generated projectfile
20110609 21:07:45< Crab_> it's very easy to fix, afair.
20110609 21:07:47< timotei> otherwise writing doxygen comments would be awful
20110609 21:07:51< anonymissimus> visual assist x ?
20110609 21:08:08< timotei> anonymissimus: try it. but play with it's options a bit before :)
20110609 21:08:11< timotei> its*
20110609 21:08:36< anonymissimus> Crab_: pls fix the MSVC + cmake version first; it's currently broken
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20110609 21:09:51< loonycyborg> zaroth: You should always use <> includes for boost and other external libs and "" for internal headers.
20110609 21:10:04< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: could you upload the prgram options dll too ? I'll probably need that too (otherwise I'll wait for a release... ;))
20110609 21:10:42< loonycyborg> My program_options is a static library, so you definitely don't need a dll.
20110609 21:10:53< timotei> anonymissimus: what headers?
20110609 21:11:02< loonycyborg> What exactly is your issue with it anyway?
20110609 21:11:56< timotei> anonymissimus: you don't need a library
20110609 21:12:07< timotei> Build & Link
20110609 21:12:07< timotei> Automatic linking
20110609 21:12:13< timotei> according to: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/
20110609 21:14:22< zaroth> anonymissimus: by the way, while you're at it, could you check out if it compiles with boost 1.35? the syntax of boost.p_o changed a bit from 1.35 to 1.42 (that's the one I'm using), but I don't know if I used any of these incompatible parts 
20110609 21:14:31< zaroth> it may be necessary to bump the version in INSTALL
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20110609 21:15:27< timotei> I'll start compiling aswell.
20110609 21:15:33< timotei> maybe I can get it working without ay hassle
20110609 21:15:33< zaroth> (and even if it didn't yet, it may, since I still don't throw very meaningful exceptions and I'm sure exception construction syntax changed between boost.p_o 1.40 and 1.42
20110609 21:15:33< timotei> :P
20110609 21:16:19< anonymissimus> zaroth: "could you check out if it compiles with boost 1.35? the syntax of boost.p_o changed a bit from 1.35 to 1.42" this isnt as easy to check on win
20110609 21:16:39< loonycyborg> zaroth: I could try 1.35 but I'd need to build it first.
20110609 21:16:40< timotei> anonymissimus: I have 1.46 so I can check :p
20110609 21:16:43< zaroth> I thought on win you just replace a file
20110609 21:16:46< timotei> anonymissimus: what boost you use?
20110609 21:16:55< timotei> zaroth: it needs to replace the whole boost headers IIRC
20110609 21:17:03< anonymissimus> for MSVC I donwloaded just the latest
20110609 21:17:21< anonymissimus> boost_1_46_1
20110609 21:17:22< timotei> hm 1.46_1 I guess :P
20110609 21:17:23< zaroth> ah... so never mind then ;-)
20110609 21:17:25< timotei> ok:)
20110609 21:17:34< timotei> then you already have a new syntax
20110609 21:17:38< timotei> if it's any
20110609 21:17:50< anonymissimus> I'm happy if I can get it to work at all, I dont ask what I need at minimum
20110609 21:19:38< zaroth> by the way, I kind of remember you or somebody else looking for compiled binaries of boost ( .a or something). The result seemed to be a 3rd party webpage.
20110609 21:19:44< zaroth> Wasn't that sufficient? http://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost-binaries/
20110609 21:20:18< zaroth> (I'm not sure what these packages actually contain, just asking and broadening my knowledge ;-) )
20110609 21:21:33< timotei> anonymissimus: what do you say about removing those stupid source/header filters?
20110609 21:21:38< timotei> zaroth: actually from here: http://www.boostpro.com/download/
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20110609 21:22:19< timotei> anonymissimus: and just retain the AI/widget/etc filters
20110609 21:22:47< zaroth> timotei: oh, if it's a bundled installer, it makes sense for a 3rd party site to make it more convenient
20110609 21:22:49< timotei> it's easier to find a header near source, rather than go to a different level
20110609 21:23:08< timotei> zaroth: they just compiled boost and deliver from what I've seen :D
20110609 21:23:11< timotei> yeah
20110609 21:25:01< timotei> anonymissimus: btw, you said about the warnings like (1>lua.obj : warning LNK4006: _main already defined in luac.obj; second definition ignored ). We don't need to add -Werror to the lua lib ;)
20110609 21:25:07< timotei> just for our code
20110609 21:26:45< loonycyborg> zaroth: 1.35 doesn't seem to work with gcc versions I have installed.
20110609 21:28:07< zaroth> so maybe a bump is in order
20110609 21:28:25< zaroth> (of INSTALL, there is)
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20110609 21:29:20< zaroth> I'd gladly bump it to 1.42, which seems to be the current stable and even the king of stableness, debian, uses it, but I guess it's not only my decision to do that
20110609 21:29:43< loonycyborg> Post about it on the ML.
20110609 21:31:37< zaroth> hmm... no, ubuntu 10.04 LTS uses 1.40
20110609 21:32:58< zaroth> but I'm not sure if that matters, since they won't add wesnoth 1.10 to their repo anyway and people wanting it to compile are free to try with their 1.40 version
20110609 21:33:05< zaroth> unless I'm missing something here
20110609 21:33:28< timotei> zaroth: what about bumping it just to 1.40? :)
20110609 21:33:47 * zaroth shrugs
20110609 21:34:01< loonycyborg> I can try 1.40 too :P
20110609 21:34:26< zaroth> loonycyborg: that would be lovely, I haven't figured a quick way to switch my library versions yet ;-)
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20110609 21:35:43< zaroth> what's your secret?
20110609 21:35:58< zaroth> a VM? or just savviness in build environments?
20110609 21:36:04< zaroth> (that I don't have yet)
20110609 21:36:21< loonycyborg> I install them with --layout=versioned and make scons use them using appropriate options.
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20110609 21:36:58< zaroth> loonycyborg: distro?
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20110609 21:37:06< loonycyborg> Gentoo.
20110609 21:37:30< loonycyborg> It also has 'eselect boost' but it works only for boost versions for which ebuilds exist.
20110609 21:38:52< zaroth> loonycyborg: I have much to learn about gentoo yet, it seems... I would love to help this distro and become a gentoo dev one day, though. Are you one ? :-)
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20110609 21:39:32< loonycyborg> No. I'm only a gentoo user.
20110609 21:39:58< anonymissimus> timotei: "]	<timotei>	[#wesnoth-dev] anonymissimus: what do you say about removing those stupid source/header filters?
20110609 21:39:59< anonymissimus> [21:22]	<timotei>	[#wesnoth-dev] anonymissimus: and just retain the AI/widget/etc filters" ????
20110609 21:40:37< timotei> well
20110609 21:40:41< timotei> in the vs project
20110609 21:40:46< timotei> there are some folders
20110609 21:40:49< timotei> Source 
20110609 21:40:50< timotei> Headers
20110609 21:40:52< timotei> Resoruces Other
20110609 21:40:56< timotei> but they are "virtual:'
20110609 21:41:07< timotei> I would like to have: game.(h|c)pp
20110609 21:41:08< timotei> rather than:
20110609 21:41:11< timotei> Source/game.cpp
20110609 21:41:14< timotei> Headers/game.cpp
20110609 21:41:40< anonymissimus> hm dont think thats a good idea
20110609 21:41:44< timotei> why not?
20110609 21:41:54< anonymissimus> CodeBlocks uses same
20110609 21:42:02< anonymissimus> amd its a TON of work
20110609 21:42:21< timotei> no it's not
20110609 21:42:24< timotei> I can do it in
20110609 21:42:25< timotei> ...
20110609 21:42:29< timotei> 10 seconds?
20110609 21:42:30< timotei> :P
20110609 21:42:34< anonymissimus> its the MSVC standard to split that in this way
20110609 21:42:41< timotei> it's a stupid standard hell
20110609 21:42:43< timotei> :))
20110609 21:43:22< zaroth> build systems: saving programmers' time since 1991 ;-)
20110609 21:43:23< timotei> wouldn't you personally like more?
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20110609 21:47:54< timotei> I mean. it's quicker to open the header near the .cpp
20110609 21:48:51< loonycyborg> zaroth: 1.40 gets an error
20110609 21:48:58< loonycyborg> src/commandline_options.cpp: In function 'void validate(boost::any&, const std::vector<std::basic_string<char> >&, two_strings*, int)':
20110609 21:48:58< loonycyborg> src/commandline_options.cpp:32:30: error: 'invalid_option_value' is not a member of 'boost::program_options::validation_error'
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20110609 21:51:34< timotei> well
20110609 21:51:34< zaroth> loonycyborg: that's exactly the difference between 1.40 and 1.42 I was talking about
20110609 21:51:36< timotei> night guys
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20110609 21:51:47< zaroth> I encountered it as well
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20110609 21:52:20< zaroth> but in the other direction, when using example code from SO, where the poster had 1.40
20110609 21:53:52< zaroth> do you have an idea which solution should we use? I guess we have at least 4 options: 1. use old syntax (will break e.g. for me with 1.42) 2. use new syntax (will break for 1.40) 3. use an #ifdef 4. create our own exception class instead 
20110609 21:54:28< zaroth> I'd go with 1., but I'm not against 4. as well
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20110609 21:57:26< loonycyborg> breaking it for newer versions is not an option. Either use #ifdef or create an exception class if you care.
20110609 21:58:32< zaroth> aww, I meant 2. obviously, not 1.
20110609 21:58:58< zaroth> ok, thanks for your opinion
20110609 21:59:49< loonycyborg> If people agree to a bump to 1.42 I'm not against it either.
20110609 22:02:17< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: it looks as if your .a won't work; so how would I go about creating a new MinGw build environment on win ? compile boost with bjam from cygwin shell; do you use scons on win too ? (from a win shell or cygwin/mingw) ?
20110609 22:02:43< loonycyborg> I'm using scons from cmd.exe
20110609 22:03:34< loonycyborg> I don't even have cygwin installed.
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20110609 22:04:17< loonycyborg> But I believe that it's be easier to build boost in cygwin for you.
20110609 22:04:23< loonycyborg> *it'll
20110609 22:07:29< loonycyborg> The reason for this is that bjam has zlib support in iostreams disabled by default on windows and it's PITA to enable it.
20110609 22:07:52< loonycyborg> Probably it'll consider cygwin to be posix and thus have zlib support enabled.
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20110609 22:10:13< anonymissimus> hm do I have to pre-build other dependencies ?
20110609 22:10:54< loonycyborg> Nope. Only boost.
20110609 22:12:01< loonycyborg> You just need to rebuild boost and you'd probably be able to use whatever you already have.
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20110609 22:13:31< anonymissimus> well, I need to set up the while thing to be able fro openmp and such some time too
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20110609 22:41:07< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: do I need to do something about the dw2 thingy ? your .a doesnt have it, my others do
20110609 22:42:31< loonycyborg> If you use the same compiler both for boost and for wesnoth then it'll definitely match.
20110609 22:43:42< loonycyborg> My .a file didn't work because cross-compilers are sjlj.
20110609 22:45:04< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: well I dont thats why I worry
20110609 22:45:40< loonycyborg> Generally gcc --version will tell you.
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20110609 22:46:59< zaroth> hopman-: do you have a second?
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20110609 22:51:58< zaroth> hopman-: when you do, please take a look at http://pastebin.com/TsfGDtrF
20110609 22:53:13< zaroth> I tried to switch the linking order, as you wrote in your e-mail, but since I'm not very familiar with advanced features of writing cmakelists.txt (and scons even less), I'm not sure if I did the switching of linking order as you described in your mail correctly - in fact, the linking still breaks :(
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20110609 23:00:29< loonycyborg> zaroth: http://pastebin.com/0z0kBNt5 <- this works for me.
20110609 23:09:32< zaroth> well, the problem is that cmake has a bit different splitting, or so it seems
20110609 23:10:30< loonycyborg> Splitting is the same, maybe names are different.
20110609 23:11:04< zaroth> but thanks, I'll add your scons patch to my branch if you're attesting that it's working
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20110609 23:12:09< loonycyborg> kk
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20110609 23:27:44< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: well, the boost building worked, but cant get the linking to work
20110609 23:28:08< anonymissimus> I dont think the cygwin approach will work with this setup
20110609 23:28:53< anonymissimus> for unknown reason, cygwin downloaded a kinds outdated compiler
20110609 23:29:21< anonymissimus> 3.4.4., 2004
20110609 23:30:51< zaroth> btw, is brunowolff still around?
20110609 23:32:00< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: linking of boost or of wesnoth? :P
20110609 23:32:08< anonymissimus> wesnoth
20110609 23:32:26< loonycyborg> And what errors do you get?
20110609 23:33:04< Soliton> zaroth: not really, maybe reachable by email.
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20110609 23:33:14< anonymissimus> i no longer have them
20110609 23:34:11< zaroth> Soliton: ah, I just wondered since he seems to be the only one using https://gna.org/task/?group=wesnoth
20110609 23:34:40< zaroth> I was also amused to find https://gna.org/task/?2364 from 2005 and 60 % done, no less ;-)
20110609 23:36:47< anonymissimus> well, no, think I need to build teh boost .a with teh compiler I was using so far
20110609 23:37:11< anonymissimus> although I'd prefer upgrading the whole thing to a never version
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20110609 23:42:12< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: I got about the same unresolbed references as with your .a
20110609 23:44:05< loonycyborg> So it's sjlj/dw2 again..
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20110609 23:49:57< anonymissimus> I guess, yes
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