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20110610 00:04:06< zaroth> hello boucman
20110610 00:04:54< zaroth> you have a talent for coming online just as I'm about to go to sleep ;-)
20110610 00:05:25< zaroth> do you have any inquiries?
20110610 00:05:45< boucman> yes, but your mail report might be a better place to answer :P
20110610 00:05:53< boucman> what are you going to do next ?
20110610 00:06:08< boucman> and i'll be online most of tomorow afternoon, if you're around
20110610 00:06:11< zaroth> as for me, I'm quite fine, I'm back to the previous plan of improving game_controller_new to the point that it's able to launch the game
20110610 00:06:24< boucman> sounds good
20110610 00:06:28< zaroth> and use the new loading code, later
20110610 00:07:31< zaroth> I'll be tomorrow probably after 6 pm
20110610 00:07:39< boucman> ok
20110610 00:07:45< zaroth> btw, france is hot ;-)
20110610 00:08:18< zaroth> I didn't expect it and didn't use the sunblocker cream on my first day there, so the burn caught me by surprise
20110610 00:08:20< boucman> depends, but we had a very warm spring 
20110610 00:08:29< boucman> hehe
20110610 00:08:42< boucman> we are in high drough alert, actually...
20110610 00:08:57< zaroth> I would expect e.g. Spain or Italy to be hot, but France? meh
20110610 00:11:03< zaroth> also, the restaurants are quite awesome (the onion soup was delicious)
20110610 00:11:23< zaroth> at first I thought it was expensive, but after I saw it's a price for three course meal, I changed my mind ;-)
20110610 00:11:27< boucman> yeah, we have a reputation for that ;)
20110610 00:11:58< zaroth> and it was just a random bistro somewhere, nothing lavish or anything
20110610 00:12:15 * zaroth has to learn how to cook onion soup one day
20110610 00:12:22< zaroth> well, see you tomorrow :-)
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20110610 00:12:27< boucman> see you 
20110610 00:15:46< anonymissimus> do you code in your holiday zarith ir what ? :P
20110610 00:15:54< anonymissimus> zaroth
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20110610 00:28:24< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: from the compiler download you gave me http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/download which of these do you actually use ? theres c++ g++ mingwc++ mingwc++ etc
20110610 00:29:04< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: tdm-gcc-webdl :P
20110610 00:30:24< anonymissimus> no, which is the selected compiler executable
20110610 00:31:13< anonymissimus> so far everything else I tried either didnt work at once or throws compilation errors
20110610 00:31:23< loonycyborg> The sjlj one.
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20110610 00:32:26< anonymissimus> well yes
20110610 00:32:53< anonymissimus> E:\Programme\CodeBlocks\include\boost\mpl\apply_wrap.hpp|81|error: missing binary operator before token "("|
20110610 00:33:25< loonycyborg> I've got this exact error today with boost 1.35 and gcc > 4.4
20110610 00:35:57< loonycyborg> Since tdm is 4.5.2 your boost is probably too old.
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20110610 00:42:11< anonymissimus> ok thx, now it at least compiles again
20110610 00:43:08< anonymissimus> let's see whether it links agains the new .a ...
20110610 00:43:30< anonymissimus> or against the other old ones ...:|
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20110610 01:38:01< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: ./bjam --with-iostreams fails to compile
20110610 01:38:13< anonymissimus> other than that doesnt look too bad
20110610 01:38:30< anonymissimus> it seems to link against the other .as
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20110610 01:38:54< loonycyborg> How exactly? Does it fail to include/link zlib or bzip2?
20110610 01:40:58< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: http://pastebin.com/8JAzSbHG
20110610 01:41:32< anonymissimus> --with-regex worked and seems also to link in wesnoth
20110610 01:41:59< anonymissimus> so iostreams is the last dw2 thingy i have
20110610 01:42:48< loonycyborg> You need to get whatever cygwin thing that provides bzlib.h, if you're using cygwin..
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20110610 02:32:12< loonycyborg> gn
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20110610 04:33:37< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20110610 09:48:53< Ivanovic> moin
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20110610 11:58:59< nephro> Any way I can tell WML not to consider a line as a macro if it contains {} ?
20110610 12:22:06< zookeeper> yeah, prefix it with # ;)
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20110610 12:33:20< nephro> cheers
20110610 12:34:01< nephro> zookeeper, it still says it know no such macro
20110610 12:34:16< nephro> ah stupid me, forgot to save the file
20110610 12:36:02< nephro> segfault, segfault swimming in the ocean...
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20110610 13:58:30< nephro> zookeeper, is # actually preventing a line from being macro substituted, or just comments it out?
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20110610 14:02:12< timotei> nephro: # is a comment in WML
20110610 14:02:41< nephro> makes sense
20110610 14:03:36< nephro> timotei, do you know, how could I prevent a line from macro substitutions? I need to have code="return {'lol', 'ok'}", but wml yells that knows nothing about 'lol', 'ok' macro
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20110610 14:04:47< timotei> nephro: what's your exact WML line?
20110610 14:04:51< timotei> and doing LUA code 
20110610 14:04:53< timotei> is not using {}
20110610 14:05:01< timotei> sorry, not using " but << or <<<
20110610 14:05:04< timotei> IDK for sure
20110610 14:05:22< nephro> value="{'fighter','fighter'}"
20110610 14:05:38< nephro> I'll try doing code = <<  >>
20110610 14:05:45< timotei> well... that cals a macro with 2 parameters
20110610 14:05:49< timotei> what do you want to accomplish?
20110610 14:05:57< timotei> don't you want to write lua code in that?
20110610 14:06:36< nephro> {'fighter','fighter'} is a table with two elements
20110610 14:06:41< timotei> but thinking again, I think you want a way to escape the { right?
20110610 14:07:16< nephro> << >> handled the { }
20110610 14:07:36< nephro> but this again creates difficulties for UMC writers
20110610 14:07:38< timotei> nephro: you can check the file: data/core/_main.cfg
20110610 14:07:50< timotei> I don't see what you want to do, yet
20110610 14:07:57< timotei> I don't understand*
20110610 14:08:49< nephro> I want to set the value of an aspect to be a table
20110610 14:08:57< nephro> a lua table
20110610 14:09:41< timotei> so basically, you want to insert directly lua code in a WML Context?
20110610 14:11:03< timotei> if you want that, I'm afraid you will need to create a macro, let's say: {LUA_TABLE 'fight', 'fight'}, which turns into a code like:
20110610 14:11:15< timotei> [lua] code=<< ...set table here >> [/lua]
20110610 14:11:16< timotei> :)
20110610 14:11:41< nephro> it seems like value=<< {'fighter','fighter'} >> works well
20110610 14:12:00< timotei> ah. ok then :)
20110610 14:12:19< timotei> does it do what *you* expect? :P
20110610 14:12:32< nephro> It does :)
20110610 14:13:07< timotei> ok
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20110610 17:17:19< CIA-94> nephro * r49827 /trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): More aspect exposure. @Crab_, please, leave feedback on this, I am unsure about several parts of this patch
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20110610 18:32:21< nephro> Crab_ : if you come in today, and I am not here, please leave some feedback about my latest commit and some words on what should I continue on. I assume that you are going away for a trip tomorrow, if so, I'll drop you an email asap. Thanks
20110610 18:41:12< crimson_penguin> can anyone tell me what the result of not including the server in a package would be? would it mean there's a button that tells you "can't find the server executable"?
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20110610 18:55:53< Soliton> yes.
20110610 18:56:51< Soliton> host networked game wouldn't work.
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20110610 19:24:24< Soliton> --help looks nice now apart from the ugly "arg".
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20110610 22:14:08< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: I'm going to launch a new attempt; don't think I'm missing much :P
20110610 22:15:27< anonymissimus> which of the executables in the tdm compiler package such I choose - e.g. there's g++.exe and mingw32-g++.exe and the c++ variants...
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20110610 22:26:22< boucman> zaroth: around ?
20110610 22:33:40< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: There's probably no difference.
20110610 22:34:11< loonycyborg> But I usually use plain g++
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20110610 23:34:00< zaroth> boucman: back
20110610 23:34:06< boucman> hey
20110610 23:34:12< boucman> so, how is it going today ?
20110610 23:37:49< zaroth> well, I didn't do much today (yet), I just jumped in the forums and IRC for a quick look
20110610 23:39:32< boucman> k
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20110610 23:41:49< boucman> so, next step ?
20110610 23:43:31< zaroth> boucman: right now, I'm moving init_video to the game_cont_abstract
20110610 23:43:39< zaroth> so both game_cont and game_cont_new can use this
20110610 23:43:46< zaroth> but I'm unsure with one thing
20110610 23:44:08< boucman> yes ?
20110610 23:44:23< zaroth> it uses such class members as nogui_ or force_bpp_
20110610 23:45:07< zaroth> I'm not sure if I should create them in abstract parent as well, or just depend on cmdline_opts.nogui and cmdline_opts.bpp
20110610 23:46:14< zaroth> because the way the commandline parameters are used right now is really similar to the way they were used before (they were stored in class member variables), since previously the parsing was done in the constructor
20110610 23:46:31< boucman> hmm
20110610 23:46:53< zaroth> however, if we are sure that one parameter isn't going to be changed, we can go ahead and reach it every time from the cmdline_options class member object
20110610 23:47:06< zaroth> (it's stored as a constant reference)
20110610 23:47:11< boucman> for command line options that are only used at loading time such as these, you could either pass them as parameters to init_video (since the caller will depend on cmdline_options anyway)
20110610 23:47:49< zaroth> well, let me commit what I have so far so we can be on the same page
20110610 23:47:55< boucman> or depend on cmdline_options directly, having a member that is used by only one function, when that function is only called once sounds like a design inconsistency to me...
20110610 23:47:59< boucman> k
20110610 23:48:18< CIA-94> zaroth * r49829 /trunk/src/ (7 files): 
20110610 23:48:18< CIA-94> moved responsibility for holding commandline_options to
20110610 23:48:18< CIA-94> game_controller_abstract
20110610 23:48:20< CIA-94> zaroth * r49828 /trunk/changelog: rephrased changes about cmdline opts in changelog
20110610 23:48:20< CIA-94> zaroth * r49830 /trunk/src/game.cpp: removed redundant headers from game.cpp
20110610 23:49:27< zaroth> so, the plan is to slowly move all the things that don't need to be seriously changed up from gc to gc_abstract
20110610 23:49:46< zaroth> and make them available to both gc and gc_new therefore
20110610 23:49:58< zaroth> and then implement the things that have to be really different in gc_new
20110610 23:50:32< zaroth> (probably along with moving, some refactoring should be done on the way)
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20110610 23:51:08< zaroth> and right now I'm moving init_video() from gc.[ch]pp to gc_abstract.[ch]pp
20110610 23:51:25< boucman> sounds like a plan
20110610 23:51:56< zaroth> but my question is
20110610 23:52:55< zaroth> should I create class member variables in gc_abstract for force_bpp_ and nogui_ just as they were in gc.hpp?
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20110610 23:53:46< zaroth> well, I'll have a look if they are modified after getting their values from commandline
20110610 23:53:52< zaroth> if not, they are redundant
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20110610 23:54:54< zaroth> seems like no_gui_ is only set when parsing cmdline
20110610 23:55:27< zaroth> force_bpp_ as well
20110610 23:55:45< zaroth> just as multiplayer_mode_
20110610 23:55:48< boucman> nogui is not a suprise, bpp I expected it but wasn't sure...
20110610 23:55:53< boucman> oh ?
20110610 23:55:56< zaroth> so all of them were just storage variables
20110610 23:56:14< zaroth> multiplayer_mode_ is used to determine if we should directly go to multiplayer from multiplayer
20110610 23:56:16< zaroth> nothing else
20110610 23:56:17< boucman> that last one ismore a suprise, it's only set if we start a MP game from commandline, not for all other mp games ?
20110610 23:56:19< boucman> hmm
20110610 23:56:29< zaroth> from commandline, I meant
20110610 23:56:34< zaroth> like -m --stuff
20110610 23:56:43< boucman> that one will probably disapear in gc_new anyway, I guess
20110610 23:57:36< zaroth> it may be
20110610 23:57:53< zaroth> all right, so they will be the first to feel the refactoring blade
20110610 23:57:58< boucman> yay
20110610 23:58:13 * boucman was nicknamed "the butcher" in one of his previous jobs
20110610 23:58:30< boucman> because whenever I touched an are of code, half the lines of codes would disapear :P
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