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20110613 00:11:51< anonymissimus> hm looks like it's actually a bug; but took me long to realize this ;)
20110613 00:12:55< anonymissimus> however since the reason is completely unknown - no chance in using kdevelop
20110613 00:15:13< shadowmaster> I could lend you my files if you accept the aforementioned terms, you know.
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20110613 00:23:23< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: thx...but If I use this I guess I want to benefit from regenerating the project files too...I already have some other private project files which need maintenance :|
20110613 00:25:54< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: Can't you just blanket add all .hpp/.cpp files in src/? That'll give you 'intellisense' or whatever it's called in kdevelop at least.
20110613 00:26:11< shadowmaster> my project file assumes that all source code files are in, yes
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20110613 00:26:53< anonymissimus> no, I'm not going to make me work to get around a bug which the kde/kdevelop devs ought to fix
20110613 00:27:31< anonymissimus> I suspect that the way i installed this Linux or the way the wesnoth source is mounted may be the reason
20110613 00:27:45< anonymissimus> the partition with the wesnoth source i mean
20110613 00:28:11< shadowmaster> probably neither
20110613 00:32:58< shadowmaster> importing the root CMakeLists.txt works for me with kdevelop 4.0.1 and wesnoth 1.8
20110613 00:33:55< shadowmaster> I imagine it'll attempt to "parse" those multi-GiB files though, so I'll kill it
20110613 00:35:21< shadowmaster> oh, it didn't. that's nice.
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20110613 01:25:09< CIA-94> anonymissimus * r49854 /trunk/changelog: changelog entry for some recent revisions of mine
20110613 01:25:24< CIA-94> anonymissimus * r49855 /trunk/projectfiles/CodeBlocks/README.txt: added info that openmp should be installed when installing the compiler
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20110613 02:14:20< fendrin> shadowmaster: Hi, did you change anything on the forum?
20110613 02:14:57< fendrin> shadowmaster: I am missing the "View your posts" link. It vanished.
20110613 02:16:44< Gambit> fendrin: part of the database is being rebuilt or something
20110613 02:16:57< Gambit> Anything that relies on the search feature is disabled.
20110613 02:16:58< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=34110
20110613 02:18:04< fendrin> Gambit, shadowmaster: thanks, so it is only temporary. That's fine.
20110613 02:20:39< shadowmaster> I strongly advise you people read Global announcements in their entirety
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20110613 03:20:50< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions | [Status] Forum Search is back by shadowmaster at 06-13-2011 01:13:30 http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=34122&p=492430#p492430
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20110613 09:47:36< shadowmaster> zookeeper: part 1 of https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?18171 sounds like something for you
20110613 09:49:00< shadowmaster> maybe I could have a try at part 2
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20110613 09:57:52< shadowmaster> hm, the buttons in the file chooser dialog are broken and do not react to events
20110613 09:58:49< shadowmaster> oh no, correction, buttons everywhere are not working. I guess it's a side-effect of resizing the Wesnoth window below the minimum size
20110613 10:03:57< shadowmaster> I wonder if it would be possible to set a minimum window size hint under X11...
20110613 10:04:55< zookeeper> shadowmaster, i'd be inclined to call that a case of "just don't put tropical trees on hills", but i guess it's not too much trouble to make it work...
20110613 10:10:45< Ivanovic> moin
20110613 10:14:43< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: what the new minimum resolution again?
20110613 10:15:42< tschmitz> shadowmaster: I was playing 1.8 the other day and changed the resolution; I'm pretty sure 800x600 was the lowest in the list
20110613 10:15:43< Ivanovic> 800x480
20110613 10:16:00< Ivanovic> in 1.8.x it is 800x600 unless you define the --smallgui switch
20110613 10:26:48< shadowmaster> Sent a mail to the dev ML about the Preferences' dialog
20110613 10:27:12< shadowmaster> uh, s/(what)/$1's/ too
20110613 10:29:26< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: in general the gui dialog needs a rework
20110613 10:29:43< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: but so far it was "waiting for gui2 till this is tackled"
20110613 10:30:03< Ivanovic> as you see in your image the left area sucks in 800x480, too, basically due to "gui1 sucks there!"
20110613 10:30:50< shadowmaster> I severely dislike the gui2 argument for anything; it seems like Wesnoth is basically stalled in the GUI area because of gui2.
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20110613 10:33:14< shadowmaster> In particular, I see no reason to not improve or eliminate existing client-side issues in current gui1-based UI elements; hence the core of the post is about option exposure and usefulness.
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20110613 10:33:52< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: IMO the best thing to do would be moving all of the advanced preferences that are meant to stay into the "correct" categories
20110613 10:33:59< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: but to do so, more space is required
20110613 10:34:12< Ivanovic> which could eg be done by enabling scrollbars in the preferences
20110613 10:34:53< shadowmaster> well, IIRC gui1 doesn't have a concept of scrollable containers
20110613 10:35:20< Ivanovic> that is the reason why it makes sense to move the preferences to gui2
20110613 10:36:50< shadowmaster> meh, I forgot to ask "why the hell is 'scroll tracking of unit actions' not an advanced preference"
20110613 10:37:21< shadowmaster> I imagine that is something very few people need to mess with
20110613 10:37:30< Ivanovic> and IMO you are prefectly right with the question "should we resort all of preferences?"
20110613 10:38:04< Ivanovic> my answer to this is a clear "hell, yes!"
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20110613 10:40:37< AI0867> the preferred solution is to generalize [advanced_preferences] to just [preferences], but I'm not sure how doable that is under GUI1 without rewriting the entire preferences dialog
20110613 10:40:58< AI0867> s/preferences/preference/g
20110613 10:41:04< shadowmaster> my guess: not at all
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20110613 10:41:24< shadowmaster> gui1 uses semi-hardcoded widget locations IIRC
20110613 10:41:27< Ivanovic> the preferable solution is rewriting the preferences dialog
20110613 10:41:28< AI0867> correct
20110613 10:41:52< AI0867> so, we need GUI2, or at least GUI2beta7
20110613 10:42:07< Ivanovic> for a best case solution: IMO yes
20110613 10:42:31< shadowmaster> what, gui2 has milestones now? :p
20110613 10:43:18< shadowmaster> (rhetorical question; it does have milestones whenever the API changes drastically according to current and future needs)
20110613 10:44:13< AI0867> I wonder if we'll have wesnoth 1.aleph-null.0 before GUI2
20110613 10:46:40 * zookeeper blinks
20110613 10:46:46< zookeeper> sand hills transition _under_ grass?
20110613 10:47:12< zookeeper> can't be by design, it looks horrible
20110613 10:47:17< zookeeper> or can it
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20110613 11:09:53< zookeeper> wtf is this again. aliasing a terrain with aliasof=Hd,^Fp doesn't work but aliasof=Ha,^Fp works. Hd and Ha are defined pretty much exactly the same way.
20110613 11:14:11< zookeeper> ahh...
20110613 11:14:13< zookeeper> i see
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20110613 11:33:02< zookeeper> there's something wrong with how terrain aliasing is displayed in the top panel. i'll try to find out what exactly tonight.
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20110613 11:59:06< CIA-94> shadowmaster * r49856 /trunk/changelog: Expand one or more tabstops
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20110613 15:42:59< mordante> servus
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20110613 15:45:58< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: you probably need to limit the LUA_USE_MKSTEMP define to POSIX only - in MSVC and codeblocks/MinGw the header which gets included otherwise is unknown
20110613 15:47:29< loonycyborg> I'll check it out.
20110613 15:48:10< loonycyborg> In fact perhaps it's better to change the header than passing -D during compilarion.
20110613 15:51:15< anonymissimus> I'd refrain from modifying upstream code. "By default, Lua
20110613 15:51:17< anonymissimus> ** uses tmpnam except when POSIX is available, where it uses mkstemp"
20110613 15:51:49< anonymissimus> thats how we shouöd ot compilr too then
20110613 15:52:10< loonycyborg> There already are some wesnoth-specific changes there afaik.
20110613 15:52:11< anonymissimus> "should it compile"
20110613 15:52:25< anonymissimus> yes, the less the better
20110613 15:54:57< mordante> Sytyi, you were looking for me?
20110613 15:55:35< Sytyi> mordante: hi! Yes. 
20110613 15:57:00< Sytyi> mordante: I made some changes in schema generator tool, and some ideas I hadn't made yet. Also want to discuss type annotation. 
20110613 15:58:15< mordante> ok where are the changes for the tool?
20110613 15:58:21< Sytyi> mordante: But I have an exam at 15 June, and now I'm writing implementation of B-star tree to get additional balls. 
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20110613 16:00:18< Sytyi> mordante: Wrote multi-parent in file support, but haven't tested it deeply yet, improved contatainer "tag" and created "parent", decided to make regex factory,  
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20110613 16:01:11< Sytyi> mordante: Also made some steps to multi file work, but need to test it.  
20110613 16:02:59< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: Actually from looking at the header it looks like LUA_USE_POSIX should be really defined.
20110613 16:08:25< mordante> Sytyi,  where are the changes for the tool?
20110613 16:08:40< Sytyi> mordante: one moment please
20110613 16:11:35< Sytyi> mordante: I'll reboot and then commit. % minutes plese
20110613 16:11:41< Sytyi> * 5 please
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20110613 16:12:56< loonycyborg> mordante: Were you the mentor of the gsoc student who made ANA?
20110613 16:16:46< mordante> loonycyborg, yes
20110613 16:18:20< loonycyborg> I reviewed it closer recently and was amazed by manual memory management and things like 'delete this' :P
20110613 16:21:01< loonycyborg> What made me originally look there is a startup crash in wesnothd that looks like a memory corruption.
20110613 16:21:03< mordante> yes the code has some ugly parts, but I really expected the student to stay around after GSoC to polish the code :-(
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20110613 16:21:34< mordante> he was really enthusiastic about the project and wanted to make it a generic library
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20110613 16:22:16< mordante> that's why I want to focus on design and documentation more this year
20110613 16:23:24< loonycyborg> Actually I'd like to work on this. I want to implement network.?pp directly in asio.
20110613 16:23:36< mordante> that would be great
20110613 16:23:52< loonycyborg> And, naturally, redesign its interface.
20110613 16:24:40< loonycyborg> I think I already know asio well enough to make clientside work, without explicit use of threads even.
20110613 16:25:28< Sytyi> mordante: gna.org/patch/index.php?2636 
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20110613 16:31:09< CIA-94> loonycyborg * r49857 /trunk/src/lua/SConscript: Made scons define LUA_USE_POSIX on non-win32 platforms.
20110613 16:38:24< mordante> shadowmaster, there is no reason not to improve gui1 code if it looks bad, however I'm not doing it, I like to focus on gui2 instead
20110613 16:38:35< mordante> Sytyi, will have a look
20110613 16:38:54< Sytyi> ok. 
20110613 16:39:03< Espreon> mordante: For the FormulaAI precedence issues... I say... screw current UMC stuff that relies on the current precedence rules.
20110613 16:39:07< Espreon> That is all.
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20110613 16:40:37< Espreon> mordante: Do you have time to test the translation insertion stuff today?
20110613 16:43:16< mordante> brb
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20110613 16:45:16< anonymissimus> "For the FormulaAI precedence issues... I say... screw current UMC stuff that relies on the current precedence rules": some warning may be nice though (but there's probably no way to test whether the UMC author expects the old behavior); but fine with me
20110613 16:46:03< Espreon> Yes, warnings are a must.
20110613 16:46:24< anonymissimus> just add such a change to the "important wml changes"
20110613 16:47:02< Espreon> Yupz.
20110613 16:47:39< anonymissimus> and as for warnings, mordante, you said "normally we give a 2 releases deprecation period"
20110613 16:47:49< anonymissimus> there's 2 possibilities:
20110613 16:48:15< anonymissimus> the UMC author is either developerish-minded, in which case he follows the dev releases rather closely
20110613 16:48:26< anonymissimus> and noticed changes immediately
20110613 16:48:58< anonymissimus> the other is, the UMC author only jumps from stable release to stable, which don't contain deprecation messages anymore
20110613 16:49:40< anonymissimus> so for this much larger group the messages are useless, they are left with the "wml changes thread" and wmllint (and most don't even use this tool)
20110613 16:50:18< anonymissimus> so from a wml author point of view, a deprecation period of only 2 dev releases is rather useless...
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20110613 16:54:34< mordante> Espreon, simply saying screw them is putting it a bit hard ain't it
20110613 16:55:08< mordante> Espreon, not really great thing to change exisiting behaviour by simply saying screw them
20110613 16:55:30< mordante> Espreon, I might have time to test later, but catching up with stuff at the moment
20110613 16:56:19< mordante> anonymissimus, there are other groups the user who follows trunk and don't like their addon broken by an upgrade
20110613 16:57:02< mordante> the other really important reason is for us, if we need to test a bug with WML that has been deprecated it would be impossible to test
20110613 16:57:35< mordante> also making 'ABI' changes without a proper warning is bad behaviour IMNSHO
20110613 16:57:54< anonymissimus> mordante: note that I don't suggest to make changes at once
20110613 16:58:10< anonymissimus> that is, without deprecation message
20110613 17:00:20< mordante> anonymissimus, what do you propose then?
20110613 17:01:12< anonymissimus> well, that deprecation messages actually would need to be much longer (that is, include stable releases) to be useful for most UMC authors
20110613 17:01:22< anonymissimus> deprecation periods I mean
20110613 17:02:15< mordante> I'm not against a longer period, from what you wrote I thought you hinted at removing the deprecation all together
20110613 17:02:18< AI0867> mordante: how much work does GUI2 need before the preferences can be ported to it?
20110613 17:03:12< mordante> AI0867, I'm working on rewriting the listbox, once that's finished I can add a combobox
20110613 17:03:20< anonymissimus> actually, the reason for starting to follow the dev releases for me was that it is much easier to keep up this way
20110613 17:03:38< mordante> I *think* that's the last blocker for the preferences
20110613 17:03:44< AI0867> fabi: the best solution I've thought of so far is to make the saved version add saved=yes or something and (2 releases later) ignore every top-level [tunnel] tag that doesn't contain that key (with a WML error of course)
20110613 17:04:15< mordante> however the listbox has been a blocker for a while, playing with several designs, but haven't been satisfied with my prototypes yet
20110613 17:04:25< AI0867> while top-level [tunnel] is not part of the API, earlier saves would not function
20110613 17:04:42< AI0867> of course save-breaking is not that bad during dev releases
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20110613 17:06:48< AI0867> a more generic fix might be better though. This seems to be a symptom of a wider problem
20110613 17:07:06< AI0867> it's just that most 'saved' tags are more compatible
20110613 17:09:16< fabi> AI0867: I don't think breaking saves is a big issue, there is no usage of the tag in mainline currently beside the silver mage which should not be affected.
20110613 17:13:32< mordante> Sytyi, what exactly did you change in the example, makes it easier to review the changes
20110613 17:14:50< AI0867> fabi: testing my change now
20110613 17:15:05< Sytyi> mordante: Nothing serious. Add class parent, class error_container and in sourseparser.cpp created map<string,parent>  
20110613 17:20:59< mordante> ok
20110613 17:21:29< mordante> Sytyi, is there anything else you want me to review or to discuss with me?
20110613 17:22:00< Sytyi> mordante: I want to discuss about types
20110613 17:22:47< Sytyi> mordante: There are at least 3 types of types: simple, enumerated, and built-from simple.
20110613 17:23:27< Espreon> mordante: Well, there's a problem... and it has to be fixed.
20110613 17:23:50< Espreon> And sadly, I have to paint the steps...
20110613 17:25:12< Sytyi> mordante: simple are predefined. like int, unsigned, etc.
20110613 17:26:10< mordante> Espreon, depends on your definition of a problem, a language is free to choose its operator precedence
20110613 17:26:35< mordante> Espreon, changing after the initial implementation can be hairy
20110613 17:27:21< mordante> Espreon, and at least it should be given some thought of benefits versus problems it causes
20110613 17:27:52< Sytyi> mordante: Enumerated are rather simple, too. But bulit-in can ne created in at least two ways: a restriction and a combination. 
20110613 17:30:04< Sytyi> mordante: I.E - color is byte.byte.byte.byte where byte is unsigned<256 .
20110613 17:30:47 * mordante nods
20110613 17:32:08< Sytyi> mordante: do we need some more types of type ? 
20110613 17:32:51< mordante> Sytyi, not yet sure, but I can at least think of a flags type, an enumerate where multiple can be selected
20110613 17:33:30< mordante> zaroth Wesnoth no longer compiles when using gcc with -D_GLIBCXX_DEBUG, linker errors regarding the program_options
20110613 17:34:43< mordante> zaroth http://paste.debian.net/119701/
20110613 17:36:18< mordante> Sytyi, any idea yet how you want to implement the types?
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20110613 17:39:46< CIA-94> ai0867 * r49858 /trunk/ (changelog data/scenario-test.cfg src/pathfind/teleport.cpp): Ignore toplevel [tunnel]s rather than failing an assertion (bug #18201)
20110613 17:39:49< AI0867> fabi: ^
20110613 17:40:18< Sytyi> mordante: not now. There are ideas I schould think more. but at least one or two annotations will be created.
20110613 17:40:33< fabi> AI0867: Thanks, I will think about a way to support tunnel at toplevel somehow later.
20110613 17:41:12< AI0867> fabi: actually, I think we should support ActionWML at toplevel as little as possible
20110613 17:41:29< AI0867> it's an unfortunate side-effect of the save format
20110613 17:44:57< fabi> AI0867: Yes, but tunnel is a special case. Like [item] or [soundsource] it belongs to the map and all those are valid at toplevel.
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20110613 17:49:38< mordante> Sytyi, do you want to discuss the annotations more or want to ponder on some ideas yourself
20110613 17:50:08< Sytyi> mordante: no one till 15th
20110613 17:50:25< mordante> ok
20110613 17:50:59< anonymissimus> fabi: , AI0867 : there's also time_area which is valid at toplevel and in events; and it's very bad that it doesnt support the same syntax; at toplevel SLF's aren't allowed...
20110613 17:51:20< anonymissimus> probably because it gets loaded too early
20110613 17:51:25< loonycyborg> mordante: That's not his fault. You'll need to recompile program_options with GLIBCXX_DEBUG too.
20110613 17:52:05< loonycyborg> That's because po unlike other libs we used before passes standard containers as args,
20110613 17:52:10< mordante> loonycyborg, I've no other problems with other libraries
20110613 17:53:02< loonycyborg> And standard containers with GLIBCXX_DEBUG don't have binary compatibility with those without.
20110613 17:53:24< loonycyborg> Since, you know, they have extra info.
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20110613 17:58:22< CIA-94> mordante * r49859 /trunk/src/commandline_options.cpp: Fix a compilation warning.
20110613 17:58:22< CIA-94> mordante * r49860 /trunk/CMakeLists.txt: 
20110613 17:58:22< CIA-94> Let Lua use `mkstemp' instead of `tmpnam'.
20110613 17:58:22< CIA-94> It also fixes a linker warning.
20110613 17:58:52< CIA-94> anonymissimus * r49861 /trunk/data/lua/wml/objectives.lua: made scenario objectives work even if [objective]description= is empty
20110613 18:08:12< CIA-94> espreon * r49862 /trunk/po/wesnoth-manual/pt_BR.po: Updated the Brazilian Portuguese translation.
20110613 18:09:22< anonymissimus> mordante: re r49860 you should probably better define LUA_USE_POSIX (see r49857); also, you should probably limit the define to non-win32
20110613 18:09:42< anonymissimus> it'll break MSVC+cmake I'm sure
20110613 18:10:54< mordante> ok, just copied a scons change... guess there's a followup
20110613 18:11:57< mordante> will have a look after dinner
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20110613 18:13:56< CIA-94> espreon * r49863 /branches/1.8/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-manual/pt_BR.po): Updated the Brazilian Portuguese translation.
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20110613 18:39:00< fabi> anonymissimus: Do you know the reason why SLF are not supported at toplevel?
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20110613 18:41:21< anonymissimus> fabi: no
20110613 18:41:57< anonymissimus> I only know that time_area doesnt support it there
20110613 18:43:49< Nephro> anonymissimus, hi. I am working on exposing dstsrc to lua(std::multimap<map_location, map_location>). Maybe you have an idea how to do that?
20110613 18:44:22< anonymissimus> and I guess the reason is issues about initializing stuff in the engine; these toplevel tags are read from the constructors which seems to early...I also found that doing resources::state_of_game->get_variable("var") = var; doesnt work there
20110613 18:44:56< anonymissimus> so probably not yet ready to call functionalities of wml action (which a SLF is)
20110613 18:45:16< anonymissimus> since somewhere something isnt intialized yet I guess
20110613 18:46:15< anonymissimus> Nephro: "dstsrc" ?
20110613 18:46:40< Nephro> well, it's a multimap with locations as keys and values
20110613 18:47:14< Nephro> I don't really know how to mimic a multimap in lua
20110613 18:48:21< anonymissimus> ok I dont know much C++ theory, what kind of container is std::multimap ?
20110613 18:49:55< Nephro> well, you can imagine it as a 2 dimensional array, I guess
20110613 18:50:44< Nephro> but the problem is that the indexes are of the same type as the value
20110613 18:51:34< anonymissimus> you are looking for a way to transfer that into a lua type ?
20110613 18:52:09< Nephro> well, I guess so
20110613 18:52:57< anonymissimus> hm well the first question should be what the most useful way for the wml/lua/lua ai authot is to get/access that variable
20110613 18:53:28< anonymissimus> it is possible to every lua type as the index of tables
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20110613 18:57:11< anonymissimus> hm a 2- dimensional array would be something like std::vector<std::vector> right ?
20110613 18:58:14< Nephro> indeed, but the difference is that the indexes are objects, not integers like in vectors
20110613 18:58:49< anonymissimus> a std::map would be somehow an equivalent to a lua table with only named indices as I understand it
20110613 18:59:05< Nephro> what I probably need to get is "loc = dstsrc[{x=5, y=6}]"
20110613 18:59:05< anonymissimus> { a = , b = } etc
20110613 18:59:43< Nephro> yeah, but the indices are not names, but actual objects
20110613 19:01:00< anonymissimus> well you can do something like t = {}, t[{ x=, y= }] = { x =, y = }
20110613 19:01:04< anonymissimus> in lua
20110613 19:01:30< anonymissimus> and then get the c++ equivalent of that (lua_createtable, rawseti and something)
20110613 19:02:49< Nephro> I think I'll go insane trying to get them createtables and settables right
20110613 19:03:13< anonymissimus> do you have a stackdumper ?
20110613 19:03:21< Nephro> a stack dumper?
20110613 19:03:32< Nephro> I guess not
20110613 19:04:46< anonymissimus> http://pastebin.com/37mUd1Ch
20110613 19:04:57< anonymissimus> i wrote myself this, made life a lto easier
20110613 19:05:12< anonymissimus> you may need to adjust the log domain
20110613 19:06:36< anonymissimus> also, you should probably prefer using the "raw" methods
20110613 19:06:48< Nephro> anonymissimus, why don't you add this to wesnoth? perhaps using some macro magic to compile this method only in debug mode?
20110613 19:07:12< anonymissimus> "perhaps using some macro magic to compile this method only in debug mode" <- reason
20110613 19:07:44< anonymissimus> dont know how to make that so that its only availabe to devs when working out code
20110613 19:08:03< Nephro> well, what harm could it do if there was such a method in the release?
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20110613 19:11:51< Nephro> anonymissimus, thanks for the code anyways
20110613 19:15:54< anonymissimus> mordante: there's 2 changes in the cmakelists.txts which you make a break MSVC+cmake: http://pastebin.com/mMj1dfmy http://pastebin.com/vV7i20gg
20110613 19:16:08< anonymissimus> the second one doesnt seem fatal
20110613 19:16:56< anonymissimus> I think I define libintl stuff correctly
20110613 19:18:14< anonymissimus> I'm recompiling and if it works i'll just ifdef out those lines
20110613 19:24:22< CIA-94> mordante * r49864 /trunk/CMakeLists.txt: Use a better way for mkstemp.
20110613 19:25:22< mordante> anonymissimus what ifdef did you add for libintl?
20110613 19:28:07< mordante> and also what do you propose for the second one? I can add a fix as well, but probably tomorrow
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20110613 19:37:06< AI0867> fabi: if you really want [tunnel] to work in toplevel, I think that should be fairly simple
20110613 19:37:28< AI0867> see src/pathfind/teleport.cpp:207
20110613 19:37:45< AI0867> use that if to switch between constructors instead
20110613 19:38:10< AI0867> as the filters aren't used at that point, the normal SLF non-availability shouldn't be a problem
20110613 19:40:39< fabi> AI0867: yeah
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20110613 20:30:13< anonymissimus> mordante: as for libintl, I commented out the find_package(Libintl REQUIRED) line and MSVC linked fine...
20110613 20:31:00< anonymissimus> as for the other issue, I have no clue, but it doesnt seem to break something
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20110613 20:57:18< anonymissimus> Crendgrim: if you sum server+both you need to sum addon+both too, thats mroe then :P
20110613 20:57:43< anonymissimus> let's be realistic, in case you disappear this addon is far better positioned on the normal addon server
20110613 20:58:22< anonymissimus> and nobody will help you :P
20110613 20:58:51< Crendgrim> anonymissimus: I just wanted to point out that some people were interested in having it on the server
20110613 20:58:58< Crendgrim> not that there were more of them
20110613 20:59:16< Crendgrim> so without being too harsh, I wanted to tell them: Hey, you have to do some work! I won't do everything
20110613 20:59:27< anonymissimus> well, anyone who's interested in that should be willing to do the work
20110613 20:59:34< Crendgrim> right
20110613 20:59:50< Crendgrim> and if they aren't - hey, then it'll stay only as an add-on on the server
20110613 21:00:02< anonymissimus> it's teh same as with all those super-duper-wml-newbie-first-post-in-ideas-forum-suggestions
20110613 21:00:16< anonymissimus> no idea about the work
20110613 21:00:39< Crendgrim> ;)
20110613 21:01:27< Crendgrim> zookeeper: regarding powershot's thread: no, it doesn't contain the logic, but it describes exactly what the ability does. How it's done was described by beetlenaut already as it is in the other file I pointed to. ;)
20110613 21:04:01< zookeeper> Crendgrim, sure
20110613 21:04:14< Wurmish> Hello room.
20110613 21:04:29< Crendgrim> that's all I wanted to point out
20110613 21:04:38< Crendgrim> hey Wurmish
20110613 21:05:02< Wurmish> Just kind of popping in and seeing what's going on.
20110613 21:06:18< Crendgrim> dev discussion, mostly. And me somewhere inbetween :P
20110613 21:06:57< Wurmish> Mostly lurking now, since I'm starting my own campaign, seeing if I can pick up anything interesting.
20110613 21:07:41< Crendgrim> well, I saw the thread.. you should have a look at Brave Wings and Wings of Victory
20110613 21:08:24< Crendgrim> (Brave Wings is for 1.8 while Wings of Victory is for 1.9)
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20110613 21:51:12< anonymissimus> does anyone mind if I remove the Dev-C++ files ? nobody has been maintaining it since more than 2 years, it'll be a complete mess to bring that up to date, Dev-C++ seems a dead project since 2005, and Codeblocks serves basically the same purpose
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20110613 21:55:30< loonycyborg> I don't mind.
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