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20110614 00:34:47< shadowmaster> mordante: nobody asked you to :)
20110614 00:35:21< Ivanovic> hmm, might be nice to try compiling wesnoth using ekopath some time in the future
20110614 00:35:26< Ivanovic> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pathscale_ekopath4_open&num=1
20110614 00:36:08< Ivanovic> pathscale advertises it as being rather good at parallizing stuff even without extra openmp stuff, though that is supported, too
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20110614 01:05:40< happygrue> Ivanovic: I plan to commit the khalifate changes from the current testing addon into trunk in the next few days
20110614 01:05:51< Ivanovic> happygrue: cool!
20110614 01:05:57< happygrue> I'd say that it should be good enough (after the bugfixes too) for the next dev release
20110614 01:06:05< Ivanovic> happygrue: currently i consider releasing the next dev release next weekend
20110614 01:06:09< happygrue> I will be traveling this summer with wifi but not available as much
20110614 01:06:12< happygrue> okay
20110614 01:06:12< Ivanovic> do you think you will have it done then?
20110614 01:06:47< happygrue> I hope so: I have had a crazy eye medical iusse the past few weeks and it has slowed me down a lot.  I hoped to have it done last week actually
20110614 01:07:51< happygrue> If I don't get to it all in the next few days they can be done from the addon changelog - I've kept notes and it's almost entirely stats changes and such (anyone could do it)
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20110614 01:08:30< happygrue> some things have changed back and forth, but I think it's stable enough now to work on more as 'normal' with changes coming with each development release
20110614 01:09:27< happygrue> currently I have two bugs I assigned myself that both should be minor (I hope), if anyone here is interested in doing them that would help me out - I have had less time than expected lately
20110614 01:09:55< happygrue> er, three
20110614 01:11:50< anonymissimus> happygrue: as for the one I assigned to you, you could quickly fix it by using the core DEFENSE_ANIM macros
20110614 01:12:25< anonymissimus> as images simply pass the base images if there aren't any others, as sound what you have as get_hit_soun=
20110614 01:12:58< anonymissimus> (almost all core units use those macros)
20110614 01:13:07< happygrue> anonymissimus: all of them "should be" quick, but as indicated I haven't been on the computer much.
20110614 01:13:38< happygrue> I expect to be able to get to them but everything is annoying right now due to the eye stuff (which is why I haven't gotten to them yet)
20110614 01:14:03< anonymissimus> and Ivanovic , I hope esr gets my wmllint patch in before the next release :|
20110614 01:32:24< CIA-94> anonymissimus * r49866 /trunk/projectfiles/Dev-C++/ (unit_test.dev wesnoth.dev wesnothd.dev): (log message trimmed)
20110614 01:32:24< CIA-94> removed Dev-C++ project files
20110614 01:32:24< CIA-94> Nobody has been maintaining them since more than 2 years.
20110614 01:32:24< CIA-94> It'll be a ton of work to bring them up to date (so it's probably a better choice
20110614 01:32:24< CIA-94> to convert the CodeBlocks files instead). The Dev-C++ IDE itsself is a dead
20110614 01:32:24< CIA-94> project since 2005. Nobody will think there's need to update these files anymore
20110614 01:32:25< CIA-94> when adding source files. The compiler used was MinGw, so CodeBlocks is basically
20110614 01:32:25< CIA-94> anonymissimus * r49865 /trunk/CMakeLists.txt: exclude LUA_USE_POSIX define from MSVC project file generator
20110614 01:36:33< shadowmaster> anonymissimus: what's the patch about?
20110614 01:37:08< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: it adds wmllint support for the side= behavior changes I made revently
20110614 01:38:06< shadowmaster> ah, so it's not trivial then
20110614 01:42:14< anonymissimus> not quite, no
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20110614 10:08:54< Nephro> wesbot, seen crab
20110614 10:08:55< wesbot> Nephro: Sorry, I don't know of crab.
20110614 10:08:57< Nephro> wesbot, seen crab_
20110614 10:08:58< wesbot> Nephro: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 4d 13h ago.  4d 12h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
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20110614 10:30:23< Nephro> Why could wesnoth recompile all over again after a restart?
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20110614 10:46:12< Ivanovic> moin
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20110614 11:22:29< CIA-94> ivanovic * r49867 /branches/1.8/ (6 files in 5 dirs): updated Indonesian translation
20110614 11:24:05< CIA-94> ivanovic * r49868 /trunk/ (10 files in 7 dirs): updated Chinese (Traditional) and Indonesian translation
20110614 11:24:19-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.9.7 planned for Saturday (June 18th) | 214 bugs, 317 feature requests, 27 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20110614 11:29:25< Rhonda> oh
20110614 11:29:49< Rhonda> I wonder how much of mordante's tries to fix building on kfreebsd is in there.
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20110614 12:03:03< CIA-94> ivanovic * r49869 /trunk/po/ (5 files in 5 dirs): updated Vietnamese translation
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20110614 14:07:23< Espreon> Hmmmm, the drake death sound doesn't play when a Glider dies.
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20110614 17:44:41< chrisoelmueller> Ivanovic: around for some gsoc query? might also ping me latertimes if it's not possible right now :)
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20110614 18:09:42< anonymissimus> Espreon: yeah; it seems the death animation isnt played, and it happens for other drakes too
20110614 18:10:06< anonymissimus> possibly introduced by voucman recently
20110614 18:11:24< timotei> anonymissimus: does boucman have a secret identity? :P
20110614 18:11:45< anonymissimus> ???
20110614 18:13:17< anonymissimus> timotei: btw I couldnt get kdevelop to work at all
20110614 18:13:30< anonymissimus> that program appears thoroughly buggy to me
20110614 18:13:34< timotei> anonymissimus: 'work' what does it mean?
20110614 18:13:37< timotei> can't compile?
20110614 18:13:40< timotei> can't run?
20110614 18:13:43< anonymissimus> cant open
20110614 18:14:01< anonymissimus> projectfiles
20110614 18:14:04< timotei> anonymissimus: I use it on ubuntu too
20110614 18:14:10< timotei> anonymissimus: just open the
20110614 18:14:12< timotei> .kdev
20110614 18:14:16< timotei> file from the /trunk/
20110614 18:14:22< anonymissimus> yes and thats what doesnt work
20110614 18:14:42< anonymissimus> besides, there's no kdev
20110614 18:14:47< timotei> the single problem/thing I had to do, was to create a new configuration
20110614 18:14:50< timotei> for running the app
20110614 18:14:57< timotei> but compiling&intelisense works fine
20110614 18:15:12< timotei> >wesnoth.kdevelop
20110614 18:15:31< anonymissimus> that file is not "openable"
20110614 18:15:43< anonymissimus> the extension isnt in the filter
20110614 18:15:49< anonymissimus> and cant be changed
20110614 18:15:54< timotei> it can be
20110614 18:15:59< timotei> just enter: *.* in the file name
20110614 18:16:03< timotei> and the filter will be gone :P
20110614 18:16:29< anonymissimus> but isnt that an old file ? kdevelop3 ?
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20110614 18:16:49< timotei> hm
20110614 18:17:00< timotei> I always used that to "create" or whatever the kdev4 project
20110614 18:17:03< timotei> and it worked every time
20110614 18:17:04< timotei> :)
20110614 18:17:09< timotei> one sec, I'll do some screenshots
20110614 18:18:04< anonymissimus> we/I also need to be able to recreate the project file; or some other way to be sure that the project file contains actually the files that are needed t compile
20110614 18:18:14< anonymissimus> so that intellisense makes sense and works
20110614 18:18:38< anonymissimus> thats the bad thing about the codeblocks-scons file; it's missing lots of files
20110614 18:19:28< timotei> anonymissimus: IIRC KDevelop parses CMakeList.txt by default if you select cmake system
20110614 18:19:53< anonymissimus> "couldnt not open" etc
20110614 18:20:12< anonymissimus> i onle get error messages when i try that
20110614 18:21:58< anonymissimus> Espreon: report that bug pls, hopefully it doesnt make it into 1.9.7
20110614 18:25:37< timotei> anonymissimus: you are right. Last time it upgraded it to kdev4 fine
20110614 18:25:39< timotei> one sec
20110614 18:26:53< timotei> anonymissimus: and I've just deleted the old .kdev :))
20110614 18:26:57< timotei> let me try recover it
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20110614 18:49:39< anonymissimus> timotei: also, what about interactive debuggerness with gdb in kdevelop ?
20110614 18:50:10< timotei> anonymissimus: grr. I can't get it working. :(
20110614 18:50:27< timotei> anonymissimus: but I'm 100% sure that I upgraded somehow the kdevelop solution
20110614 18:50:30< anonymissimus> setting breakpoints while the program is running, inspecting variables and such ?
20110614 18:50:31< timotei> into a kdev4
20110614 18:50:38< timotei> IDK about that. never used that :)
20110614 18:50:56< timotei> MSVC is too good with those. I don't plan wasting my time and productivity trying alternates
20110614 18:51:11< anonymissimus> well, is works partly with codeblocks 8 (not with 10)
20110614 18:51:37< anonymissimus> but i need something like this for Linux too
20110614 18:52:52< timotei> anonymissimus: use a windows VM with MSVC :)
20110614 18:52:57< timotei> and you're covered ;)
20110614 18:53:17< anonymissimus> (never understood why people seem so keen on backtraces, a backtrace tells only very little about a bug, and only if it crashes)
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20110614 18:53:37< timotei> anonymissimus: if you know the code well, you can learn a LOT from a backtrace
20110614 18:53:50< anonymissimus> to see what's up one needs to do carefully step-step until the point where it crashes
20110614 18:53:59< timotei> I think 1% of the total backtraces that I got didn't help me
20110614 18:54:11< timotei> well... depends on the code :)
20110614 18:55:06< anonymissimus> not going to try windows vm or wine or anything with an IDE, it won't work well anyway
20110614 18:55:30< timotei> anonymissimus: hm. for me Windows in VM+ visual studio works fine 
20110614 18:55:50< timotei> and I've tried the most expensive combination: windows 7 and vs 2010 ;)
20110614 18:56:33< anonymissimus> and let me guess...you have a quattro core with 4ghz each :P ?
20110614 18:57:18< timotei> no.
20110614 18:57:32< timotei> in fact I have just a pentium dual core 2Ghz and 4 gigas
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20110614 19:27:29< timotei> anonymissimus: warning: CRLF will be replaced by LF in utils/java/org.wesnoth/.settings/org.eclipse.jdt.core.prefs.
20110614 19:27:29< timotei> The file will have its original line endings in your working directory.
20110614 19:27:34< timotei> with autocrlf=input
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20110614 19:27:55< timotei> so that's the cause for those checksum mismatches I've got :P
20110614 19:28:00< timotei> didn't read that warning before
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20110614 19:31:47< anonymissimus> timotei: I dont think so
20110614 19:31:58< anonymissimus> I alerady made commits with that
20110614 19:32:06< anonymissimus> and still no checksum mismatch
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20110614 19:32:25< timotei> anonymissimus: I told you. I've used that and I've got a total fo 3 mismatches
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20110614 19:32:31< timotei> I'll wait till yours get too :P
20110614 19:32:54< timotei> but maybe you won't come against CRLF+LF messed files, so probably you'll be fine?
20110614 19:33:03< anonymissimus> no, I suspect you made a commit which includes a change which did shop up only on one system
20110614 19:33:25< anonymissimus> thats why I always took care for so far
20110614 19:34:10< Wurmish> At long last I discovered my horrifically simple error. My text domains didn't match in my campaign and scenario files. One capitalization = total failure.
20110614 19:35:25< anonymissimus> i've set core.autocrlf = false, core.filemode = false, core. savecrlf = true, core.eol = lf, disabled "you've got some suspicious patch lines", and enable "ignore space changes" in linux gitk
20110614 19:36:07< anonymissimus> that seems best setup, didnt get OOS win-Linux since some time now
20110614 19:37:46< anonymissimus> in case that you modify the MSVC project files I temporarily unset core.eol, since in my local copy the MSVC projectfiles have CRLF, so that I see the real differences when comitting
20110614 19:38:13< timotei> anonymissimus: don't you get tired of that?
20110614 19:38:14< timotei> :P
20110614 19:39:27< anonymissimus> enabling/disabling core.eol = lf ? yes...but it did never work as good as till now :P
20110614 19:40:28< timotei> anonymissimus: using a script?
20110614 19:40:45< anonymissimus> for what ?
20110614 19:40:54< timotei> for enabling/disabling that
20110614 19:41:25< anonymissimus> no idea how that would work
20110614 19:41:43< anonymissimus> also, I'm not ecen sure whether it's neccessary
20110614 19:41:55< timotei> something like: sweol
20110614 19:42:15< timotei> and that sets/unsets core.eol 
20110614 19:42:41< timotei> lately I've set aliases for the git commands, I lose much fewer time typing them xD
20110614 19:43:35< anonymissimus> I've seen somewhere a pattern that sets different eol styles depending on file type
20110614 19:44:16< anonymissimus> so that'd be nice, we need CRLF for projectfiles/VC/*, and LF fro the rest
20110614 19:44:44< anonymissimus> (I don't know about your utils/java/*, never edit that)
20110614 19:45:00< timotei> well, there's a mess too :))
20110614 19:45:24< timotei> last time I tried something like umcpropfix, like the one Espreon runs on them
20110614 19:45:29< timotei> I've spawned over 200+ processes
20110614 19:45:38< anonymissimus> "the eternal eol mess"
20110614 19:46:09< anonymissimus> i don't think umcpropfix etc is a good idea to run on win
20110614 19:46:35< timotei> I have a lot of unix win32 version tangled in my system, including dos2unix/unix2dos
20110614 19:46:38< timotei> which I tried to use
20110614 19:46:41< anonymissimus> let people with appropriate file systems do that
20110614 19:46:43< timotei> for singular files it works
20110614 19:46:47< timotei> yeah.
20110614 19:48:10< anonymissimus> but the wesnoth source repository also isnt designed for such use case (accessing teh same source from win and Linux)
20110614 19:48:34< anonymissimus> the svn property is set to native, that's obviously a problem in that case
20110614 19:48:47< anonymissimus> the eol-style
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20110614 19:57:31< Ivanovic> chrisoelmueller: whats up?
20110614 19:58:34< chrisoelmueller> ah, heya :) changed my nick soon, eoc at the gates
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20110614 21:15:29< Nephro> wesbot, seen crab_
20110614 21:15:29< wesbot> Nephro: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 5d ago.  4d 23h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
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20110614 21:25:53< anonymissimus> how does one specify a unix line ending in code ? \n seems crlf, \r cr
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20110614 21:35:31< elias> \n is lf, \r\n is crlf
20110614 21:35:35< CIA-94> nephro * r49870 /trunk/ (data/ai/scenarios/scenario-lua-ai.cfg src/ai/lua/core.cpp): First draft on movement map exposure to Lua
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20110614 21:36:19< elias> of course the libc functions will replace all \n with \r\b unless you open the file in binary mode
20110614 21:36:24< elias> (under windows)
20110614 21:38:08< anonymissimus> elias: I'm reading the file line by line where the eol character gets ignored then
20110614 21:38:29< anonymissimus> upon writing line by line I spedify \n, yet it writes crlf
20110614 21:39:04< grzywacz> I think that happens in text mode.
20110614 21:39:26< anonymissimus> this is lua notably, not c
20110614 21:39:36< anonymissimus> or something
20110614 21:39:52< anonymissimus> no opening in binary mode
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20110614 21:40:21< Nephro> anonymissimus, you don't know lots about lua ai don't you?
20110614 21:40:28< grzywacz> "To handle such binary files, you must use io.open, with the letter `b´ in the mode string. "
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20110614 21:42:14< elias> yeah, was a bad surprise porting a game to windows in a hurry and forgetting to set the 'b' on writing savegames
20110614 21:42:25< elias> all 10 bytes ended up as 13,10 :P
20110614 21:42:31< anonymissimus> grzywacz: where is that
20110614 21:42:41< grzywacz> anonymissimus, first google link I found: http://www.lua.org/pil/21.2.2.html
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20110614 21:55:42< anonymissimus> Nephro: no...
20110614 21:58:08< anonymissimus> hiow do you test your stuff ?
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20110614 21:59:13< anonymissimus> cna you make it somehow so that you leave wesnoth running under gdb open and change the lua ai on-the-fly in the test scenario ?
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20110614 22:00:17< anonymissimus> with stack dump calls inserted in code to test, of course
20110614 22:03:36< anonymissimus> grzywacz: well, it worked, and doesnt seem to change anything else...
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20110614 22:04:31< grzywacz> anonymissimus, it shouldn't change anything else unless you rely on automatic translation to \r\n
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20110614 22:59:12< Nephro> anonymissimus ?
20110614 23:02:43< anonymissimus> Nephro: ?
20110614 23:03:03< Nephro> I asked you a question 2.5 hrs ago :)
20110614 23:03:13< Nephro> 1.5 hrs sorry
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20110614 23:22:26< anonymissimus> this one ? [21:40]	<Nephro>	anonymissimus, you don't know lots about lua ai don't you?
20110614 23:22:33< Nephro> anonymissimus, yes
20110614 23:22:42< anonymissimus> [21:55]	<anonymissimus>	Nephro: no...
20110614 23:23:02< Nephro> anonymissimus, this is very weird
20110614 23:23:20< anonymissimus> i never used it on the addon author side
20110614 23:24:58< Nephro> anonymissimus, I must've disconnected at that point
20110614 23:27:13< Nephro> anonymissimus, maybe you know "return (...):candidate_action_evaluation_hello()" what meaning does this code have(it's lua)
20110614 23:27:51< anonymissimus> where is that ?
20110614 23:28:09< anonymissimus> context
20110614 23:29:29< Nephro> it's scenario-lua-ai.cfg
20110614 23:29:49< Nephro> there is more than one place where these (...) are used
20110614 23:31:22< Nephro> anonymissimus, there's also "local ai = ..."
20110614 23:31:36< Nephro> data/ai/scenario
20110614 23:31:48< Nephro> scenarios*
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20110614 23:38:13< anonymissimus> "At the start of a script, the variadic local variable ... (three dots) is a proxy table representing WML data. This table is the content of the [args] sub-tag of the [lua] tag, if any."
20110614 23:38:34< Nephro> anonymissimus, something is very wrong with my internet... I saw in the logs that you were asking me questions too
20110614 23:38:44< anonymissimus> personally, I'd pass it to my dbms function and see what it displays
20110614 23:38:50< Nephro> I constantly get disconnected
20110614 23:38:58< Nephro> and don't receive messages
20110614 23:39:08< Nephro> Lets talk tomorrow, ok?
20110614 23:39:15< anonymissimus> maybe
20110614 23:39:44< Nephro> I'll leave now
20110614 23:39:49< Nephro> gn
20110614 23:39:53< Espreon> anonymissimus: Done.
20110614 23:39:55< anonymissimus> cu
20110614 23:40:11< anonymissimus> Espreon: thx
20110614 23:40:39< anonymissimus> (it's you who revealed it so it's your honor ;))
20110614 23:40:55< Espreon> YyyyyUP!
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