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20110616 07:47:25< Rhonda> mordante, btw., I did build 1.9.6 yesterday without and with the patch on kfreebsd, result as expected. :)
20110616 07:48:01< Rhonda> mordante, and I'm able to do it now, got the build-depends installed on the accessible box. Actually, you could request to get access there too, if you like
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20110616 09:05:46< gabba> Hi tschmitz
20110616 09:06:03< tschmitz> Hey
20110616 09:06:11< gabba> So, school's over?
20110616 09:06:17< tschmitz> Sure is!
20110616 09:06:26< gabba> Must feel great :)
20110616 09:06:33< tschmitz> It's a relief for sure
20110616 09:06:40< tschmitz> I graded for 8 hours on Friday
20110616 09:06:42< tschmitz> last Friday
20110616 09:06:48< tschmitz> after all my finals were over
20110616 09:07:01< tschmitz> helping grade the finals in another class
20110616 09:07:09< tschmitz> that was intense
20110616 09:07:24< tschmitz> gee it sure is late to see you online at this time; 's only midnight for me
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20110616 09:07:54< gabba> ^That's interesting, grading other students. We never did that at my university except for unimportant things.
20110616 09:08:24< gabba> Yeah I'm going to bed soon, but I thought I'd check if you were around
20110616 09:08:32< gabba> 'Cause now we can finally get started in earnest
20110616 09:08:36< tschmitz> Seems like graders are usually undergrads; at the beginning of the quarter I asked arround to see if someone needed a grader
20110616 09:08:38< tschmitz> big mistake really
20110616 09:08:53< tschmitz> it was pretty crappy, heh
20110616 09:08:57< gabba> ah ok not everybody does it
20110616 09:09:22< tschmitz> but I made like ... ehh probably $600 or $700 this quarter ...
20110616 09:09:41< tschmitz> yeesh, that's pretty awful for 3 months
20110616 09:09:52< gabba> Ivanovic had a pretty important reminder for GSoC students on the wesnoth-dev mailing list (you should subscribe to it btw):
20110616 09:10:01< tschmitz> Oh gee
20110616 09:10:05< tschmitz> I didn't know it existed
20110616 09:10:16< gabba> ^it's something but not proportional to the amount of work I guess
20110616 09:10:29< gabba> yeah there's a lot of stuff to discover
20110616 09:10:36< tschmitz> heh
20110616 09:10:50< gabba> So the reminder is that you can actually fail GSoC at the midterm evaluation
20110616 09:11:00< gabba> ***cue sinister music
20110616 09:11:36< tschmitz> Yeah
20110616 09:11:53< gabba> Therefore let's get going, you really want to have something concrete to show by that point
20110616 09:11:56< tschmitz> I'm supposed to "finish" the network support for the whiteboard by then
20110616 09:12:17< gabba> Yeah
20110616 09:13:00< tschmitz> so I don't have the code here at my parents' place, since I didn't bring my computer (it's a desktop)
20110616 09:13:11< tschmitz> but
20110616 09:13:18< gabba> I think you should focus exclusively on that, probably even revert the unfinished "suppose dead" feature until you can come back to it
20110616 09:13:38< tschmitz> OK, I'll consider the network to be the next goal
20110616 09:13:59< gabba> how long will you be without a development machine?
20110616 09:14:28< tschmitz> I haven't decided; either I'll go back to my computer relatively soon, or I'll find a way to do it down here
20110616 09:14:35< tschmitz> err,
20110616 09:14:39< tschmitz> I haven't decided which
20110616 09:14:51< tschmitz> either way, I'll start working soon
20110616 09:15:02< gabba> Ok, it's really important that you find a solution asap
20110616 09:15:24< tschmitz> I was going to do some work on it tomorrow
20110616 09:15:26< gabba> But in the meanwhile don't forget you can read the source code on Gna!
20110616 09:15:29< tschmitz> probably planning
20110616 09:15:34< tschmitz> Yeah I will
20110616 09:15:40< tschmitz> I might write code even without the compiler
20110616 09:15:50< tschmitz> but
20110616 09:15:53< tschmitz> you know how that goes
20110616 09:16:23< gabba> yeah, it can make you better actually, but now's not the time for risky experiments :P
20110616 09:16:38< tschmitz> So the suppose dead requires
20110616 09:16:48< tschmitz> a decision regarding its interface
20110616 09:17:12< tschmitz> the network thing ...
20110616 09:17:26< tschmitz> I guess just needs code, eh?
20110616 09:17:51< gabba> Leave "Suppose Dead to me until mid-GSoC
20110616 09:18:04< tschmitz> Ok
20110616 09:18:18< tschmitz> OK so tomorrow, I probably will start on the code then
20110616 09:18:30< tschmitz> the code is all on gna so
20110616 09:18:54< gabba> Well the network thing needs code as we discussed, but as we discussed a way to filter out the info for some players will be needed
20110616 09:19:40< tschmitz> That's part of the coding as well, yes?
20110616 09:19:44< gabba> I think your objective should be to have flawless working netcode by mid-term, and after focus on the interface
20110616 09:20:03< tschmitz> OK
20110616 09:20:05< tschmitz> cool
20110616 09:20:09< gabba> ^sure but there will be interface decisions too, that's what I meant
20110616 09:20:19< tschmitz> aye
20110616 09:20:25< tschmitz> OK well,
20110616 09:20:32< tschmitz> maybe what I should ask is when you'll be on tomorrow
20110616 09:21:34< tschmitz> Any idea?
20110616 09:21:36< gabba> I'll be on and off from about 2 PM EST on, I think
20110616 09:21:41< tschmitz> OK
20110616 09:22:07< tschmitz> So we can discuss again tomorrow after I actually have a look at the code and stuff
20110616 09:22:09< gabba> Think is, it's my turn to have exams (well, only one), next tuesday
20110616 09:22:21< tschmitz> Ah, fun
20110616 09:22:38< tschmitz> Oh yeah, mine went well btw
20110616 09:22:53< tschmitz> straight A's this quarter
20110616 09:23:17< tschmitz> So at least my time was well-spent
20110616 09:23:21< gabba> Tough one, too, so maybe you should harass the other devs to understand the netcode of wesnoth better, and save the whiteboard-specific questions for next wednesday
20110616 09:23:33< gabba> ^wow, nice grades, congrats!
20110616 09:23:41< tschmitz> Thanks!
20110616 09:23:56< tschmitz> K
20110616 09:24:14< tschmitz> What class is the exam for anyway?
20110616 09:24:34< gabba> Economics (for engineers)
20110616 09:24:44< tschmitz> heh
20110616 09:24:47< gabba> Not my cup of tea by any extent
20110616 09:24:59< tschmitz> at least it's for engineers, I suppose
20110616 09:25:16< tschmitz> I haven't taken a "proper" econ class, now that I think about it
20110616 09:25:25< gabba> I suppose it's a bit more pragmatic that most econ courses, yeah
20110616 09:25:40< tschmitz> I took "honors (macro) econ" in high school, but ...
20110616 09:25:45< tschmitz> I don't think it really counts
20110616 09:26:04< gabba> So, I've gotta go already, but one last thing:
20110616 09:26:26< gabba> Make yourself a mini-calendar for the network feature
20110616 09:26:43< tschmitz> K, that's what I'll do tomorrow
20110616 09:26:59< gabba> Allocate time for planning, implementing and bug-fixing, it'll help you gauge your progress
20110616 09:27:14< gabba> And yes, please send it to me tomorrow
20110616 09:27:24< tschmitz> All right.
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20110616 09:28:44< tschmitz> gabba: Oh hey, how do I subscribe to the email list?
20110616 09:28:47< gabba> I don't require it, but you can make one or two UML diagrams (sequence/package/class) to detail a bit the architecture once your plans precise a bit
20110616 09:29:15< gabba> Otherwise a good textual description will do
20110616 09:29:23< tschmitz> Hm, I'm not sure what UML is?
20110616 09:29:52< gabba> Did you see the sequence diagram on my GSoC page from last year?
20110616 09:30:17< shadowmaster> it's either User Mode Linux ( :p ) or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Modeling_Language
20110616 09:31:08< gabba> shadowmaster: :P
20110616 09:31:12< gabba> I'll let you guess which
20110616 09:31:16< tschmitz> Got it, OK I think I've seen those before
20110616 09:31:25< gabba> Ok description: http://www.agilemodeling.com/artifacts/classDiagram.htm
20110616 09:31:26< tschmitz> (the first thing I thought of was UMC)
20110616 09:31:53< tschmitz> (I don't recall seeing one of those on your project page though, gabba? perhaps I forgot)
20110616 09:32:01< covale> who's responsible for the wiki (or more accurately, the registration)?
20110616 09:32:03< covale> I have a translator who wants to join the Swedish translation team, but can't register on the wiki, since the confirmation code doesn't work. I've tried it myself as well, and it rejects every good answer I trow at it.
20110616 09:32:17< covale> *throw
20110616 09:32:32< shadowmaster> covale: Crendgrim and Crab_ are involved with that part of the wiki administration
20110616 09:32:54< shadowmaster> I think Crendgrim in particular tends to log in around this time of the day
20110616 09:32:58< gabba> tschmitz: well what I linked above is a class diagram
20110616 09:33:14< gabba> then you have sequence diagrams such as mine: http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?mode=view&id=39611&sid=1a3b8ffb7bbc1206d1257a5878a78584#.png
20110616 09:33:23< tschmitz> Hey shadowmaster I liked Frogatto and Friends
20110616 09:33:31< covale> thanks, I'll lurk around 'til one of them logs on then :)
20110616 09:34:01< gabba> tschmitz: or this http://www.agilemodeling.com/artifacts/sequenceDiagram.htm
20110616 09:34:13< tschmitz> gabba: Yeah I definitely remember the network diagram you made
20110616 09:34:19< tschmitz> network communications diagram
20110616 09:34:21< tschmitz> or whatnot
20110616 09:34:22< gabba> tschmitz: but don't waste time on those if you're not familiar
20110616 09:34:32< tschmitz> I thought it was a cool diagram
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20110616 09:34:46< gabba> tschmitz: I just want you to give me an idea of the classes you plan to create, and how they'll interact
20110616 09:35:01< tschmitz> OK, I'll definitely come up with something
20110616 09:35:10< shadowmaster> tschmitz: haha, cool, but I'm just the 1.0 level designer :p Most of the hard work was Jetrel, Sirp and penguin's.
20110616 09:35:13< tschmitz> I thought your diagram was pretty detailed
20110616 09:35:16< gabba> UML is a very good tool for that if you don't get lost into "perfecting" it, rough hand sketches are perfect
20110616 09:35:17< shadowmaster> (and neorice, a tiny bit)
20110616 09:35:45< tschmitz> gabba: heh good point, it would probably be easier for me to draw one by hand ...
20110616 09:35:51< tschmitz> gabba: Though I lack a scanner
20110616 09:35:59< gabba> tschmitz: a photo camera?
20110616 09:36:15< tschmitz> probably have one of those around here
20110616 09:36:19< tschmitz> as well as a phone camera
20110616 09:36:21< timotei> gabba, tschmitz http://www.websequencediagrams.com/
20110616 09:36:25< gabba> That's how I "scan" documents nowadays :P
20110616 09:36:33< tschmitz> in any case, I'm sure I can come up with something understandable
20110616 09:36:35< timotei> it's pretty simple and straight forward
20110616 09:36:46< tschmitz> Thanks timotei
20110616 09:37:08< timotei> yw
20110616 09:37:09< gabba> timotei: howdy
20110616 09:37:21< timotei> gabba: exams... exams... and exams :))
20110616 09:37:31< gabba> timotei: ha ha, I find that website hilarious, fake handwriting
20110616 09:37:46< gabba> real handwriting is still quicker though I think
20110616 09:37:51< timotei> I have 1 left, and for another I have to get a better mark (from 9 to 10 lol)
20110616 09:38:11< gabba> Ok, I really gotta go
20110616 09:38:17< timotei> gabba: ok. bye :-h
20110616 09:38:27< tschmitz> gabba: Cya later
20110616 09:38:30< tschmitz> tomorrow maybe
20110616 09:38:35< tschmitz> Hopefully you are sleeping, so good night
20110616 09:38:41< gabba> tschmitz: looking forward to see the project take off!
20110616 09:38:46< tschmitz> Yeah same here
20110616 09:38:51< tschmitz> fun times ahead!
20110616 09:38:53< gabba> I'll try and show up tomorrow
20110616 09:38:58< gabba> :)
20110616 09:39:01< gabba> See you all
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20110616 09:39:03< tschmitz> Bye
20110616 09:39:08< tschmitz> (too slow)
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20110616 10:03:05< Ivanovic> moin
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20110616 11:33:25< CIA-95> ivanovic * r49881 /branches/1.8/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-low/ko.po): updated Korean translation
20110616 11:33:25< CIA-95> ivanovic * r49882 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-low/ko.po): updated Korean translation
20110616 11:33:59< timotei> Ivanovic: why are we still maintaining the 1.8 branch? Didn't we release the last 1.8.7 version?
20110616 11:34:13< Rhonda> 1.8.7 isn't released.
20110616 11:34:16< Ivanovic> timotei: when i get translation updates for 1.8.x i commit them there, too
20110616 11:34:20< timotei> oh. 1.8.6 :P
20110616 11:34:32< Ivanovic> though i already told the translators (several times!) that there most likely won't be another 1.8 release
20110616 11:34:43< shadowmaster> I made a slight security fix after 1.8.6 though
20110616 11:34:48< Ivanovic> since the work is targeted for this old branch, it still makes sense to commit it there, too
20110616 11:35:05< shadowmaster> also the little "editor labels not initially visible" mess that slipped past my radar
20110616 11:35:30< Rhonda> shadowmaster: The security fix I pulled already into my Debian packaging git, me thinks?
20110616 11:35:35< shadowmaster> well s/security/stability/
20110616 11:35:35< Ivanovic> timotei: so, how is gsoc coming along for you this year?
20110616 11:35:51< Rhonda> shadowmaster: Was that the starting location labels in editor?
20110616 11:36:13 * Rhonda . o O ( how can that be considered security? )
20110616 11:36:15< timotei> Ivanovic: well, it's fine. I'm still doing small commits when I find time. I wait for finishing with the exam to resume the work :)
20110616 11:36:44< timotei> Ivanovic: though I need to do far more research on the eclipse's features, since some of them aren't documented good
20110616 11:36:44< shadowmaster> shikadibot: log 49789
20110616 11:36:45< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Revision 49789 (shadowmaster) on Tue Jun  7 23:55:59 2011:
20110616 11:36:48< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Fix unhandled utils::invalid_utf8_exception when displaying tooltips
20110616 11:36:52< shikadibot> shadowmaster:  
20110616 11:36:53< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Handle the exception and don't display the tooltip, logging an error in
20110616 11:36:56< shikadibot> shadowmaster: (+1 discarded lines)
20110616 11:36:57< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=49789
20110616 11:37:07< shadowmaster> Rhonda: meant this stability (not security fix)
20110616 11:37:25< shadowmaster> as for security fixes post 1.8.6, I'm not aware of any?
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20110616 16:55:46< anonymissimus> Soliton: IIRC you did fix this http://gna.org/bugs/?18233 in trunk. Could you backport it to 1.8 ? If you don't, can I do it myself ? Since it happens for me too in 1.8. Say "no" if e.g. you know that the respective code area did change since 1.8
20110616 16:56:56< anonymissimus> (well, I know there will no longer be an 1.8 release, but I myself will recompile :) )
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20110616 17:05:33< Soliton> anonymissimus: i'd have to look at the commit but yeah i think it can be easily backported.
20110616 17:05:50< Soliton> anonymissimus: if you do it also commit it anyway.
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20110616 18:26:55< grzywacz> Ivanovic, do we have any control over the format of SVN notifications GNA sends?
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20110616 19:45:30< mordante> servus
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20110616 19:46:02< mordante> hi Sytyi 
20110616 19:46:49< mordante> Rhonda, thanks for testing, will keep the offer in mind in case I run into kfreebsd issues again
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20110616 19:48:27< Sytyi> mordante: hi 
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20110616 19:48:45< mordante> Sytyi, how did your exam go?
20110616 19:48:54< Sytyi> mordante: A 
20110616 19:49:10< mordante> nice
20110616 19:49:18< Sytyi> mordante: check please last version on gna
20110616 19:49:40< mordante> what did you exactly change?
20110616 19:52:55< mordante> Sytyi, ^
20110616 19:53:16< Sytyi> mordante: add work after error. There are 2 files to test. I tested - different variants of parenttess and now it merge if tags in different files has one parent  
20110616 19:53:45< mordante> Sytyi, also it would be nice if you leave a message in the patch to tell what changed, then I can review it when you're not around as well
20110616 19:53:58< Sytyi> mordante: I added that as comment to file
20110616 19:55:00< mordante> ah ok, next time please as comment in the bug report, that's easier to find
20110616 19:56:03< Sytyi> mordante: I want to create a full patch to mainstream , but I need some advice. My patch will  inlude SG tool, annotated sources, and changes to Wiki grabber ( probably without last at first).  
20110616 19:56:51< loonycyborg> mordante: My next evil plan is to try to implement the gui2 network_connect/network_receive dialogs.
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20110616 19:57:06< loonycyborg> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GUIToolkit seems to cover only WML side of things.
20110616 19:57:07< mordante> loonycyborg, ok cool, have fun with it
20110616 19:57:19< Sytyi> mordante: I want to tell you how I understand some aspects - just check my statements 
20110616 19:57:29< mordante> loonycyborg, there's also a gui2 design document written in LaTeX
20110616 19:58:08< CIA-95> mordante * r49886 /trunk/src/commandline_options.cpp: Fix compilation with DEBUG_WINDOW_LAYOUT_GRAPHS.
20110616 19:58:11< CIA-95> mordante * r49887 /trunk/ (changelog src/network_worker.cpp): 
20110616 19:58:11< CIA-95> Fixes compilation on kfreebsd.
20110616 19:58:11< CIA-95> Fixes debian bug #626313. Thanks to Rhonda for testing the patch.
20110616 20:01:47< Sytyi> mordante: SG tool will be run from /utils
20110616 20:02:07< Sytyi> and checking /src/gui 
20110616 20:02:58< Sytyi> mordante: each file there and in sub dirs
20110616 20:03:31< Sytyi> mordante: Can you give me an advice how to organize that in SG
20110616 20:04:18< mordante> Sytyi, the tool should not care where it's started from, you should make the input directory a parameter and the output file/directory as well
20110616 20:05:15< mordante> regarding adding your work to trunk, for the annotation it would be the easiest to submit a real patch against our sources
20110616 20:05:26< Sytyi> mordante: In example it will be called like  sg -i /src -o /data/schema_wml.cfg
20110616 20:05:52< mordante> exactly
20110616 20:06:15< mordante> for the SG tool, before committing it I'd like to get the source in a more Wesnoth like style and also more doxygen comment
20110616 20:07:01< Sytyi> mordante: Can you advice me how to organize work with directories in different OS. Maybe some example from rep ?
20110616 20:07:30< mordante> for example we put private members at the end of the class and class members in a namespace not indented
20110616 20:07:56< mordante> what do you exactly man with "organize work with directories in different OS" ?
20110616 20:08:11< Sytyi> mordante: How to read all file names, so one
20110616 20:09:42< mordante> Sytyi, don't reinvent the wheel ;-) have a look at get_files_in_dir() in filesystem.hpp
20110616 20:10:21< mordante> Sytyi, also our C++ tools are in the src/tools subdirectory
20110616 20:10:38< mordante> so I think for the sg tools we can add a subdirectory in src/tools
20110616 20:12:24< Sytyi> mordante: I will write DoxyGen ASA finish design work and stop changing interfaces of classes.
20110616 20:12:59< Sytyi> mordante: Thank's that was I exactly needed. (filesystem.hpp)
20110616 20:13:10< mordante> you're welcome
20110616 20:13:27< mordante> Sytyi, how are things on the design front?
20110616 20:14:50< Sytyi> - Regex factory - this night. 
20110616 20:14:50< Sytyi> - Make some properties not mandatory(like "isparent") - probably also this night.
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20110616 20:16:05< Sytyi> mordante: Then I will review some algoritms, work  with input directory. And prepare the patch
20110616 20:16:33< mordante> ok good
20110616 20:16:44< mordante> any luck with defining the types?
20110616 20:18:07< Sytyi> mordante: I think it will be better to commit working annotation parser (at least just to know how to do some things) and then create types annotations 
20110616 20:18:43< mordante> true, just wondered whether you had some new ideas about it
20110616 20:19:08< Sytyi> mordante: Also I think that simple types will be stored in some file, which will be generated from annotations in  simple type-parser
20110616 20:20:07< Sytyi> mordante: We can define built types using simple, but we need implement source part when defining simple one
20110616 20:21:00< mordante> true, but maybe we should not hardcode the simple types as well in the end, just define all types
20110616 20:21:20< mordante> if we need to do the hard ones, then the easy ones could also be done
20110616 20:21:30< mordante> but that isn't our first priority
20110616 20:22:23< mordante> btw could you also post a patch canvas.cpp annotated, then I will already commit that (if it doesn't confuse the wiki_grabber ;-) )
20110616 20:23:05< Sytyi> mordante: Thats why I want to commit the full patch, contatining changes to Wiki-grabber
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20110616 20:23:43< mordante> Sytyi, ok
20110616 20:24:28< Sytyi> mordante: Sorry - I will be back in a minute. 
20110616 20:30:21< Sytyi> mordante: So you think we need just to define all possible types&
20110616 20:31:04< mordante> Sytyi, in the end yes, but for now no
20110616 20:32:23< Sytyi> mordante: I think the problem of types will be actual when I will write validator. For now I shall think only about of creating type annotation or not
20110616 20:33:03< Sytyi> and maybe about checking annotations about is type supported
20110616 20:34:09< mordante> Sytyi, true
20110616 20:35:14< Sytyi> mordante: but second one is easy doing when the list of defined types is already created.   
20110616 20:36:53< mordante> you mean if we have basic types hard-coded the complex ones are easy to do?
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20110616 20:41:43< mordante> Sytyi, do you have more questions at the moment?
20110616 20:42:27< Sytyi> mordante: I mean that checking (is type in the list - true) is easy when I have this list. 
20110616 20:42:53< mordante> ok
20110616 20:42:53< Sytyi> mordante: And also I want to leave a possibility to add types not by hard-code
20110616 20:43:07< Sytyi> at least enumerations
20110616 20:43:19< mordante> we indeed need to be able to add types
20110616 20:43:43< Sytyi> mordante: no questions. 
20110616 20:44:00< Sytyi> mordante: I meant only simple types to hard code
20110616 20:44:14< mordante> yes that's fine
20110616 20:44:47< mordante> maybe in a later stage we can even unhardcode them, but that's for later
20110616 20:44:56< Sytyi> yes
20110616 20:46:29< mordante> then I'm off now, bye
20110616 20:46:35< Sytyi> mordante: bye
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20110616 22:49:48< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: what could be the reason for codeblocks no longer finding system headers such as #include <vector> when compiling the 1.8 source with the old compiler; afaik I did change everything required accordingly
20110616 22:50:34< anonymissimus> last time I checked it worked (and that was afetr installation of the tdm-gcc compiler IIRC)
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20110616 22:57:20< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: No idea. gcc seems to always find its system headers. Maybe you're calling wrong compiler?
20110616 22:58:20< loonycyborg> What could have changed is PATH environment variable.
20110616 22:58:47< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: compiler setting is right...i remember it well; and it exists, there's another error otherwise
20110616 22:59:08< anonymissimus> as for PATH - IIRC i did disable that on installing tdm-gcc
20110616 22:59:23< anonymissimus> and as for the old compiler, it wasnt in PATH anyway
20110616 22:59:37< anonymissimus> (I attempt to not use PATH whenever possible)
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20110616 22:59:53< loonycyborg> Do the headers themselves exist?
20110616 23:01:43< anonymissimus> where should they be ?
20110616 23:02:15< anonymissimus> (for MSVC they are somewhere in a subdir of MSVC's installation directory, easy to find)
20110616 23:05:05< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: gcc-install/lib/gcc/mingw32/4.5.2/include/c++
20110616 23:08:20< loonycyborg> s/4.5.2/$version
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20110616 23:23:22< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: me, seems I found it; it looks for system libs automatically in that directory - the problem was that I renamed the "lib" directory in the path you wrote so it did no longer find it ;)
20110616 23:23:45< loonycyborg> kk
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