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20110611 00:51:35< Crazytales> Hi, wesnothiers.
20110611 00:57:05< joo> Greetings, IRCitizen.
20110611 00:57:53< Crazytales> :P
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20110611 04:30:10< oldtopman> Restarting
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20110611 13:43:50< Cookiee> Hey Arry ^^
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20110611 13:50:04< Arry> Hello.
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20110611 16:43:36< Ivanovic> hi
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20110611 19:23:11< Exasperation> So much WML... somehow it seems like more when it's being converted from WML to Lua than when it was written in the first place.
20110611 19:23:34< Exasperation> Like it spontaneously multiplied while I wasn't paying attention.
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20110611 21:44:25< platypus42> hi... is there any way to update wesnoth to new versions without having to download the setup in its entirety? 
20110611 21:47:16< zookeeper> no
20110611 21:48:01< zookeeper> (or rather, yes there is but if someone needs to ask then using them would not be worth the hassle)
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20110611 21:50:13< Wurmish> It would be nice if it was able to be 'patched' like that, but I don't know how complex that would be to implement.
20110611 21:54:41< zookeeper> not very complicated but it'd still require someone who wants to dedicate quite a lot of time to it, and so far no one has volunteered, hence why it hasn't been done.
20110611 21:58:09< hagabaka> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Download_Xdeltas ?
20110611 21:58:55< hagabaka> oh, only source code now
20110611 21:59:26< platypus42> zookeeper: that was to be my next question, what would it take to create something like thta? 
20110611 21:59:29< platypus42> *that
20110611 22:00:12< zookeeper> platypus42, i don't know, i'm not really a programmer.
20110611 22:00:19< platypus42> zookeeper: would it need source code level changes, or would simple binary diffs suffice? 
20110611 22:00:25< platypus42> zookeeper: oh, okay
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20110611 22:01:24< Exasperation> if you're on Windows, you might want to keep an eye on this thread: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33691
20110611 22:01:46< Exasperation> Zaroth has been looking at creating patchers for Windows
20110611 22:01:48< zookeeper> well of course it could just be like a completely separate mini-installer, no source changes needed to wesnoth itself.
20110611 22:02:14< zookeeper> whether that'd be a good and easily maintainable solution, i don't know
20110611 22:02:29< zaroth> platypus42: if you are interested in taking it further, I can provide you my current NSIS script
20110611 22:03:11< zaroth> it mostly needs to be windows registry aware now and finding reason for weird bug described in the topic
20110611 22:03:25< zaroth> and then I'd say it's ready to mark as "official" ;-)
20110611 22:09:51< platypus42> zaroth: yes I'm interested, at the least out of curiosity :) 
20110611 22:09:57< platypus42> just back from your thread btw
20110611 22:10:35< platypus42> "essentially the same thing as xdeltas" Aren't the Wesnoth xdeltas only source code changes? Or am I misreading the http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Download_Xdeltas page? 
20110611 22:12:45< zaroth> wesnoth xdeltas are differences between source code .tar.gz or windows installers
20110611 22:12:55< zaroth> the big .exe files
20110611 22:13:17< zaroth> one huge inconvenience with them is that you actually have to uninstall wesnoth and reinstall again
20110611 22:14:08< platypus42> oh, so it goes like, patch the setup with the new xdelta file, uninstall and reinstall with the patched setup? 
20110611 22:16:54< zaroth> exactly
20110611 22:17:00< zaroth> and you have to keep the setup file
20110611 22:19:56< platypus42> ok. originally that would have been good enough for me, but tinkering with patch-making scripts has me interested now. :) 
20110611 22:20:43< platypus42> I'd need the nsis-2.46 setup and two different wesnoth setups to test the NSIS script, right? 
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20110611 22:45:06< zaroth> platypus42: right, to generate the different files you also need the nsispatchgenerator
20110611 22:45:24< zaroth> http://sourceforge.net/projects/nsispatchgen/
20110611 22:45:53< zaroth> however, it in the current version generates only binary diff patch installers
20110611 22:46:16< zaroth> and it's a bit inconvenient, since you get patch installers which are compatible with only one version
20110611 22:46:46< zaroth> more handy is to have an installer which replaces files instead of applying binary patches on them, this way you can be compatible with all the versions on the way
20110611 22:47:32< zaroth> that's why I wrote a patch to nsispatchgen which provides that functionality, but authors of this tool on sourceforge didn't apply it to mainstream yet
20110611 22:48:03< zaroth> so you'd also have to get this tool, apply my patch (or write the changes yourself, it's not very difficult) and compile it
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