--- Log opened Fri Jul 01 00:00:01 2011
--- Day changed Fri Jul 01 2011
20110701 00:00:01< anonymissimus> you should probably use this cfg["use_markup"].to_bool(false)
20110701 00:00:09< anonymissimus> instead of string_bool
20110701 00:00:30< Exasperation> ok
20110701 00:00:47< Exasperation> I'm still learning my way around the BfW codebase
20110701 00:01:08< Exasperation> I was just looking at the IRC log, actually
20110701 00:02:14< Exasperation> the patch you're discussing would affect the static GUI2 WML, but I did test it to make sure the existing default isn't changed
20110701 00:03:20< shadowmaster> config::attribute_value::to_bool() will default to false like utils::string_bool().
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20110701 00:05:11< anonymissimus> Exasperation: also, you should add the changelog entry to the interface section
20110701 00:05:23< anonymissimus> not wml engine, wml engine is for action wml
20110701 00:05:41< anonymissimus> (and scenario/campaign markup)
20110701 00:06:26< Exasperation> I really wasn't sure about what heading to put it under when I put it into the changelog - I probably spent about 5 mins going back and forth over that
20110701 00:06:36< Exasperation> I'll fix that too
20110701 00:06:51< anonymissimus> also, the previous patch covers basically the same feature ? so it's a wont do then if the other gets accepted
20110701 00:07:36< Exasperation> well, more or less.  the previous patch is less convenient but more powerful
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20110701 00:08:42< Exasperation> if you have a label that you want to be able to switch back and forth between markup/no markup you need the previous patch; I don't really see it making much difference to most people
20110701 00:08:55< shadowmaster> Exasperation: it should be under the existing WML engine heading and probably add under Lua API too
20110701 00:09:17< Exasperation> ok
20110701 00:09:28< shadowmaster> oh wait, there's no existing WML engine heading. Add it in alphabetical order leaving Miscellaneous and bugfixes at the end
20110701 00:09:42< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: there no existing one
20110701 00:10:06< shadowmaster> anonymissimus: lagging? :)
20110701 00:10:32< anonymissimus> ah well, you wrote Engine instead of engine
20110701 00:11:04< anonymissimus> this is of course a dead-you-are-knocked-out criteria
20110701 00:14:06< anonymissimus> no need to add to lua api imo
20110701 00:15:09< anonymissimus> well do what you want, and then try to get mordant to apply it
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20110701 00:22:36< anonymissimus> Nephro: when doing cfg.something or false you don't get anything
20110701 00:23:09< anonymissimus> if something isnt passed, cfg.something will be nil which is "casted" to false
20110701 00:24:31< anonymissimus> it's just like bool algebra, something or false is the same as something
20110701 00:25:24< anonymissimus> (also note that nil and false are the only values which become false; all other types, also the numerical 0, become true)
20110701 00:25:51< anonymissimus> in lua, unlike other languages
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20110701 09:40:01< shadowmaster> either Crendgrim or Anonymissimus get an avatar or a forum membership change or someone will have kill one of them
20110701 09:40:36 * shadowmaster ponders giving Code contributors their own color.
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20110701 09:41:55< fstltna> I'm having trouble with cached texts & images. Are these stored in the precache folder?
20110701 09:42:20< Ivanovic> moin
20110701 09:42:50< shadowmaster> I doubt there's anyone here who knows much about the iOS port's internals.
20110701 09:43:14< fstltna> Is it specific to the iOS port?
20110701 09:43:52< shadowmaster> As far as I know, yes. Vanilla Wesnoth regenerates the WML cache whenever it finds a change on startup, and it doesn't cache graphics on disk.
20110701 09:44:07< fstltna> I wouldn't ask here if I knew it was for the iOS only version
20110701 09:44:18< shadowmaster> Well, now you know!
20110701 09:44:18< shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20110701 09:44:19< fstltna> Ok
20110701 09:44:26< fstltna> Hehehe
20110701 09:44:41< fstltna> At least now I know where to look
20110701 09:46:02< fstltna> The main reason I was asking is that I have grep Ed the whole tree and do not see it occurring
20110701 09:46:22< fstltna> grepped
20110701 09:46:37< fstltna> Very frustrating lol
20110701 09:46:59< shadowmaster> maybe it stores something in a separate cache in some user area? Wesnoth caches preprocessed WML under <preferences dir>/cache
20110701 09:48:14< fstltna> There is a precache dir that stores things like terrain tiles and help files
20110701 09:48:39< fstltna> That was where I started looking but as I said no luck using grep
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20110701 09:52:53< Ivanovic> fstltna: no idea where you have greped, you should use the ios port sources: http://wesnoth.repositoryhosting.com/trac/wesnoth_wesnoth/
20110701 09:54:16< fstltna> I greped the whole source tree. The only matches that show up have my changes but when loaded on a device the old changes are there
20110701 09:54:58< fstltna> My port is changed from the iOS port, I have been working on it for a year almost ow :)
20110701 09:55:29< Ivanovic> but yeah, the iphone port is very, uhm, "special"
20110701 09:55:37< Ivanovic> (meaning the code really sucks!)
20110701 09:55:42< fstltna> The precache Dir is my most likely source
20110701 09:55:58< fstltna> Lol yes it is a pain to work with
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20110701 09:56:34< fstltna> I will try loading the precache files in a hex editor and see if it is there
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20110701 09:57:21< fstltna> Kyle spent a lot of time optimizing things, but he is very hard to work with
20110701 09:58:03< Ivanovic> could the cache be gz compressed or something along those lines?
20110701 09:58:28< fstltna> He did things like mp3-ogg conversion because of the way iOS handles hardware decompression...
20110701 09:58:30< fstltna> Yes it could
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20110701 09:59:38< fstltna> I can try things like removing the files from the cache Dir and seeing if it recreates them or something
20110701 10:00:22< fstltna> But there aren't enough bytes in the files to be the whole campaign tree
20110701 10:02:14< fstltna> I can try asking him, but I have a couple other emails to him that have not been responded to in months 
20110701 10:03:35< Ivanovic> he seems to be rather missing in action
20110701 10:06:36< fstltna> Yea :(
20110701 10:06:48< fstltna> He is busy with his card game
20110701 10:07:13< shadowmaster> He seemed to respond to Sirp when I asked him to ask him if he was going to go back to the Android port and some point.
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20110701 10:08:06< shadowmaster> I guess that was back in March, though.
20110701 10:08:34< fstltna> Right, that was like the last time he replied to me too
20110701 10:08:57< fstltna> My message sat in his inbox for like a month before it disappear
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20110701 10:19:01< fstltna> Just sent him a message. Hopefully won't be months, or that I can track it down on my own :)
20110701 10:26:19< Soliton> can you tell ccache to ignore certain directories?
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20110701 13:56:42< enchilado> It looks weird that the legs of the horse just slide out from underneath it: http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=51580
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20110701 15:07:51< Espreon> boucman: I'm back from Europe.
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20110701 15:20:17< Espreon> boucman: Did you want me to help you eliminate the halo bug?
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20110701 19:32:11< timotei> sytyi: hey. If you have problems reading the schema.cfg file, let me know. AI0867 explained it once to me, so I could tell you the logs so you can read them ;)
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20110701 20:29:40< fendrin> Is there anywhere code in Wesnoth which does some math with hexfields? Like calculating the angle between two hex fields on the map for example.
20110701 20:30:02< fendrin> timotei: hi
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20110701 20:31:27< timotei> fendrin: hey there!
20110701 20:31:52< Sytyi> timotei: hi. What is the schema.cfg and what does it already contains ?
20110701 20:32:06< timotei> Sytyi: hold on to check the logs ;)
20110701 20:33:33< Sytyi> timotei: what year and month ?
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20110701 20:36:28< Sytyi> timotei: I am writing my file and named it like schema.cfg . So if there already is some, I need to change.
20110701 20:40:29< timotei> Sytyi: well, I can't find it
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20110701 20:40:51< timotei> Sytyi: but I've written for my plugin a schema.cfg parser
20110701 20:41:19< timotei> Sytyi: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/schema/SchemaParser.java?revision=50090&view=markup
20110701 20:43:22< Sytyi> timotei: As far as I can understand - there is a list of types, and mostly alphabetical list of tags, with names of subtags and keys. 
20110701 20:43:56< timotei> Sytyi: yeah
20110701 20:44:09< Sytyi> timotei: Don't you know, where it is used in game engine ?
20110701 20:44:14< timotei> Sytyi: the types are defined as key=value under the [schema] tag
20110701 20:44:19< timotei> Sytyi: IIRC it's not used anywhere
20110701 20:44:56< Sytyi> timotei: only in your plagin. Maybe later I will show you my schema file. 
20110701 20:45:01< timotei> that's the reason of your project iirc :P. To get a usable schema thingy that can be used to validate the WML 
20110701 20:45:19< timotei> well, I base my plugin the schema.cfg. The more complete is that file generated
20110701 20:45:23< timotei> the better the plugin :D
20110701 20:47:06< Sytyi> timotei: http://pastebin.com/dRmzkawi
20110701 20:48:14< Sytyi> timotei: but it will take a lot of time to annotate all sources to achieve full generated schema. So firstly - let it work only on gui.
20110701 20:48:58< Sytyi> timotei: and I use some un-existing tags like "global" and "generic". 
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20110701 20:52:45< timotei> aha
20110701 20:52:59 * Sytyi feels a great need to update documentation
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20110701 20:54:31< Sytyi> timotei: If interesting - there can be smth like inheritance when child achieves full list of subtags and keys, and can extend it, and can have different name - so abstract parents were put to generic/
20110701 20:54:58< timotei> Sytyi: yes, the schema.cfg uses such inhertiance thingy
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20110701 21:56:45< timotei> fendrin: I haven't managed to do much today and yesterday. I just had 4 hours ago the final exam in this holiday (well, till 1 september :P )
20110701 21:57:06< fendrin> timotei: Cool. 
20110701 21:57:13< fendrin> timotei: How did it went?
20110701 21:57:34< timotei> fendrin: well, still waiting for the results, but I hope I managed to get maximum on this too :P
20110701 21:57:39< fendrin> nice
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20110701 22:05:12< tschmitz> fendrin: Math with hex fields? I believe map_location has functions for "vector" addition and subtraction
20110701 22:05:20< tschmitz> if that's what you meant by hex fields
20110701 22:06:00< tschmitz> I kinda doubt it has a dot product, though
20110701 22:07:03< fendrin> tschmitz: My problem is the following: I have an angle in which my joystick is pushed and I need to find the hex field that is hit by this angle.
20110701 22:07:06< anonymissimus> Gambit: why you think http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=34287 is a bug ?
20110701 22:07:28< anonymissimus> sorting by id is just fine IMHO
20110701 22:07:41< anonymissimus> just another useless code producing feature^^
20110701 22:08:35< Gambit> Because the id is not visible to the user in any other form
20110701 22:08:48< Gambit> so why would they expect tabular data to be sorted by it?
20110701 22:09:42< timotei> well, why would it need to be sorted in the first place?
20110701 22:10:01< Gambit> I dunno. But if it is being sorted, it should be done in a meaningful way.
20110701 22:10:02< anonymissimus> exactly
20110701 22:10:58< anonymissimus> well, the most sensible way to sort from a player point of view would be some combat-important things, like hitpoints, usage, experience needed, damage
20110701 22:11:38< zookeeper> it'd be good if they sorted the same way for all languages
20110701 22:11:41< zookeeper> price?
20110701 22:12:14< anonymissimus> zookeeper: since they are sorted by id they sort the same way for all languages :)
20110701 22:12:25< timotei> :))
20110701 22:12:38< anonymissimus> no need to do something here IMHO
20110701 22:13:00< anonymissimus> "just another useless code producing feature (request)^^"
20110701 22:13:59< zookeeper> yes, but it's still not a user-comprehensible sorting method
20110701 22:14:32< zookeeper> i'm not saying it matters much though
20110701 22:15:48< anonymissimus> from a wml author point of view it's probably rather the ideal sorting method
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20110701 22:17:37< Gambit> No. From a WML author's perspective it'd be better to do it in the order defined in the era
20110701 22:17:55< Gambit> and the order added to and removed with the recruit list modification tags.
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20110701 22:33:30< tschmitz> fendrin: You can convert a hex-map vector to an ordinary vector via { vec.x = hex.x*0.75; vec.y = hex.y + (hex.x%2)*0.5 }
20110701 22:34:13< tschmitz> though I suppose you would need the reverse conversion
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20110701 22:34:25< tschmitz> and I don't know if there's already a function to do that
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20110701 22:34:44< fendrin> tschmitz: Cool, that might be exactly what I needed. 
20110701 22:35:43< tschmitz> fendrin: Note that the internal representation of map_location is based at (0,0), but when it gets displayed in the corner of Wesnoth, 1 is added to each coordinate to make it (1,1) based
20110701 22:35:45< fendrin> tschmitz: Where did you find the code?
20110701 22:35:57< tschmitz> map_location?
20110701 22:36:16< tschmitz> fendrin: I just wrote the equations just now
20110701 22:36:21< fendrin> Oh
20110701 22:36:48< tschmitz> fendrin: Like I said, I don't know if there's already a function to do that, but I don't see one in map_location
20110701 22:37:15< fendrin> Thank you very much. I will try to work with your equations.
20110701 22:37:48< tschmitz> Certainly.
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