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20110708 04:05:52< home> Who is maintainer of http://wiki.wesnoth.org?
20110708 04:08:09< shadowmaster> pretty much everyone. administrators, though? that's not quite clear; Crendgrim and Crab_ seem to be the most dedicated people nowadays
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20110708 04:12:47< home> I found that current wiki engine  doesn't support other language support. For ex looks like page http://wiki.wesnoth.org/MP_CodeOfConduct done in multi ang  but it's just template included in her. So for current engine we must create separate template. This is not acceptable and dirty work. Any way to move wiki site to modern wiki (with internationalization support) like mediawiki?
20110708 04:14:14< shadowmaster> it *is* running MW
20110708 04:14:23< shadowmaster> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Special:Version
20110708 04:14:54< home> Well so why MP_CodeOfConduct using such ugly hack?
20110708 04:15:22< shadowmaster> I don't know
20110708 04:16:16< home> Is there plugin required to make it work like at wikipedia left panel?
20110708 04:16:38< shadowmaster> I advise asking one of those people I metnioned
20110708 04:16:42< shadowmaster> mentioned, too
20110708 04:17:16< home> Okay, I will digg mediawiki.
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20110708 05:34:29< shadowmaster> We should start banning balancing suggestions from Ideas altogether.
20110708 05:34:45< enchilado> shadowmaster: actually I have a balancing suggestion.
20110708 05:35:08< shadowmaster> Okay, what's your forum account?
20110708 05:35:43< shadowmaster> Found it. I have contacted my field agents.
20110708 05:35:53< enchilado> :O
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20110708 07:33:08< hopman-> tschmitz: Not sure how much I can help you
20110708 07:34:51< hopman-> tschmitz: If I remember correctly, underlying_id() should be unique for each real unit and should be the same for the life of that unit (at least in a single scenario).
20110708 07:35:48< hopman-> tschmitz: the unit_map still has code that will reassign an id if it sees multiple of a single id, but I don't think that that is actually possible
20110708 07:36:05< tschmitz> hopman-: How about being the same for all clients in a multiplayer game?
20110708 07:36:36< tschmitz> hopman-: It seemed to me that "sometimes" the underlying_id counter would get reset between playing games, and "sometimes" not
20110708 07:36:36< hopman-> I think it is synced, but I am not sure... I know it used to be not synced, but I thought that was changed
20110708 07:36:47< hopman-> yeah, I'm not sure
20110708 07:36:52< tschmitz> hopman-: OK
20110708 07:37:00< tschmitz> Thanks for the help
20110708 07:37:12< tschmitz> Did you read about what I'm using it for?
20110708 07:37:21< hopman-> I know that when I had been working on that area, I had wanted it to be synced across clients, but I don't know if that ever happened
20110708 07:37:29< hopman-> No, I didn't see that.
20110708 07:38:05< tschmitz> hopman-: Yeah basically I'm trying to serialize "the identity" of a unit for transport across the network
20110708 07:38:21< tschmitz> hopman-: whiteboard objects contain references to the units for whom plans are made
20110708 07:38:35< tschmitz> hopman-: and now I'm sending whiteboard objects over the network, so
20110708 07:40:06< tschmitz> hopman-: Can you answer me whether it's guaranteed that saving a game and loading it again will preserve the underlying_id of all the units?
20110708 07:40:25< tschmitz> hopman-: and keep the "next-underlying_id" the same also
20110708 07:41:41< hopman-> tschmitz: No, I cannot say for sure.
20110708 07:42:19< tschmitz> hopman-: That's all right; do you think there exists a person who knows?
20110708 07:42:30< tschmitz> hopman-: or perhaps a document?
20110708 07:47:09< hopman-> tschmitz: No, I can't really help with that.
20110708 07:47:53< tschmitz> hopman-: All-righty, well thanks for the input.
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20110708 10:28:50< Ivanovic> moin
20110708 10:28:59< Nephro> morning Ivanovic 
20110708 10:45:25< CIA-85> ivanovic * r50222 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-help/ru.po wesnoth-units/ru.po): updated Russian translation
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20110708 11:40:16< CIA-85> nephro * r50223 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Completed cleanup functionality(kind of hacky, might need refactoring). Also done some minor fixes
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20110708 11:59:32< CIA-85> ivanovic * r50224 /trunk/po/wesnoth-manual/ru.po: updated Russian translation
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20110708 12:27:31< Crab_> neph: if there are any questions, you ask them in the log, I read them (most of the time :) )
20110708 12:47:50< timotei21> Crab_: hi there
20110708 12:48:27< timotei21> Crab_: I'm working on that project dependency tree, to establish the order of processing the config files 
20110708 12:48:35< Crab_> hello
20110708 12:48:56< timotei21> the progress is a bit slow, since there are so many ... options. however, I was getting an idea, but I don't know how feasible it might be
20110708 12:49:03< timotei21> what do you think of:
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20110708 12:49:19< timotei21> iterating on each new/changed file, to get the macro calls (that are includes of directories/files) ?
20110708 12:49:45< timotei21> that would be the best thing to do, in case the campaign/addon is very tangled and has different included stuff
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20110708 12:50:28< timotei> I have found a way, that using xtext to get access to the already parsed
20110708 12:50:31< timotei> file abstract tree
20110708 12:50:47< timotei> and I can simply iterate through the file, without additional preprocessing and stuff
20110708 12:52:08< Crab_> note that due to macros, 'changed' = 'all files which depend on new and changed'
20110708 12:52:20< Crab_> s / = / +=
20110708 12:52:33< timotei> hmm
20110708 12:53:07< Crab_> i.e. if a file uses a macro, and this macro changed, the file might gain new dependencies..
20110708 12:53:09< Crab_> or not ?
20110708 12:53:29< Crab_> what's the effect of {include} inside a macro
20110708 12:53:30< Crab_> ?
20110708 12:53:42< timotei> oh, I didn't think of that:-?
20110708 12:53:52< Crab_> #define Z {test} #enddef
20110708 12:54:01< timotei> where test is a folder/file included?
20110708 12:54:04< Crab_> yes
20110708 12:54:07< timotei> hmm
20110708 12:54:13< Crab_> the include would be done when that define is parsed ?
20110708 12:54:18< Crab_> or when a macro is used ?
20110708 12:54:20< timotei> when traversing that file's AST (abstract syntax tree), I'll get it too
20110708 12:54:36< timotei> when the define is parsed
20110708 12:54:39< Crab_> ok, good
20110708 12:54:46< Crab_> then there're less problems
20110708 12:54:52< timotei> well yeah
20110708 12:55:00< timotei> first part is to create that tree correctly
20110708 12:55:08< Crab_> so, the file's macros do not contribute to it's dependencies, then ?
20110708 12:55:08< timotei> based on that it will be easier to see/fix the dependencies
20110708 12:55:27< timotei> well... it may contribute
20110708 12:55:30< Crab_> how ?
20110708 12:55:35< timotei> if the folders/files weren't already included
20110708 12:55:37< timotei> before
20110708 12:55:40< timotei> for example
20110708 12:55:43< timotei> if we have:
20110708 12:55:51< timotei> project/a/; project/b/
20110708 12:55:58< timotei> and then: _main.cfg has: {a}
20110708 12:56:14< timotei> and in project/a/file.cfg has: {a} then it's fine
20110708 12:56:22< timotei> {a} (/project/a) was already included
20110708 12:56:32< timotei> if it has {b} I need to add project/b/ to the tree aswell
20110708 12:56:46< Crab_> won't they be included again by the preprocessor ?
20110708 12:56:59< timotei> well
20110708 12:57:08< timotei> atm I abstract the existance of preprocessor
20110708 12:57:16< timotei> I'm working on simple files - it seems simpler
20110708 12:57:19< Crab_> i.e. {a} {a} {a} will lead to three includes, right ?
20110708 12:57:32< timotei> well, it will be just one, since it's the same
20110708 12:57:44< Crab_> are you sure ?
20110708 12:58:01< timotei> well, I'm adding only new distinct paths to the tree
20110708 12:58:09< timotei> there's no need to add 3 times the same path
20110708 12:58:16< Crab_> ( I'm about the preprocessor )
20110708 12:58:19< timotei> a
20110708 12:58:40< timotei> IDK what will happen if the preproc parses that :-?
20110708 12:58:44< Crab_> because of my earlier question..
20110708 12:58:45< timotei> let me try
20110708 12:59:00< Crab_> 'so, the file's macros do not contribute to it's dependencies, then ?'
20110708 12:59:23< Crab_> this question is both about preprocessor (it talks of macros) and about your dependency tree
20110708 13:00:28< Crab_> the reason why I ask: if we find out that file macros  don't contribute to dependency tree (because the contribution happens at definition time), then we can walk through un-preprocessed files, ignoring macros.
20110708 13:00:41< timotei> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
20110708 13:00:42< timotei> I see now
20110708 13:00:50< timotei> what you meant
20110708 13:01:02< Crab_> (that's ignoring shadowing - when a macro hides an include path, as well)
20110708 13:01:46< Crab_> so, we just can see if we have something which looks like an include, and if it points to directory/file the dependency on which we haven't added to tree yet, we do.
20110708 13:01:55< timotei> welyep
20110708 13:01:57< timotei> yep*
20110708 13:02:35< Crab_> and then, indeed, you can walk only the changed files...
20110708 13:02:56< timotei> since the tree is project specific, to include a dependency in current project, that macro should been defined already
20110708 13:03:09< timotei> and we would have parsed it already
20110708 13:03:26< Crab_> but note a small issue:
20110708 13:03:44< Crab_> suppose file A has {scenarios} , but there's no {scenarios} folder in it's directory
20110708 13:03:55< Crab_> but there's a #define scenarios ... #enddef
20110708 13:03:56< Crab_> it works
20110708 13:04:20< Crab_> or there's no #define scenarios, and it doesn't work
20110708 13:04:23< Crab_> ..yet
20110708 13:04:33< Crab_> you eval your dependency tree
20110708 13:04:47< Crab_> then, the person mkdirs scenarios and adds some .cfg files in there
20110708 13:05:19< Crab_> you, if you only evaluate those new .cfgs, might miss the new dependency of A on {scenarios}
20110708 13:05:30< Crab_> since it's in A, which hasn't changed
20110708 13:05:44< timotei> well... I don't think... that {scenarios} will include the {scenarios} directory.
20110708 13:05:48< timotei> I remember we had to do:
20110708 13:05:59< timotei>  /campaigns/.../...
20110708 13:06:01< timotei> or
20110708 13:06:04< timotei> ~/add-ons/...
20110708 13:06:15< timotei> at least, that's how I made my tree
20110708 13:06:29< timotei> it recognizes as includes just the macros that start with such a sequence :-?
20110708 13:07:04< timotei> am I wrong?
20110708 13:07:19< timotei> oh.
20110708 13:07:34< timotei> the preproc wiki says you are right
20110708 13:07:43< timotei> is that even used in practice?
20110708 13:08:00< timotei> I'm saying this in the hope that people use just the 2 above mentioned
20110708 13:08:43< Crab_> yes, often used
20110708 13:08:55< Crab_> mainline campaigns use it a lot
20110708 13:09:10< timotei> Crab_: the {scenarios} vs {campaigns/.../scenarios} ?
20110708 13:09:23< Crab_> but not always, sometimes full paths are used
20110708 13:11:09< timotei> hmm... well, I guess I should go first for the full path scenario
20110708 13:11:30< timotei> we can always improve existing things
20110708 13:12:12< Crab_> though I might be wrong about 'how often it is used.'..
20110708 13:13:04< Crab_> I'd suggst to do the simpler case first
20110708 13:13:23< timotei> yeah
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20110708 14:59:49< neph> wesbot, seen Crab_
20110708 14:59:49< wesbot> neph: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 1h 46m ago.  45m 44s ago they left with the message: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
20110708 14:59:55< neph> Oh come on
20110708 14:59:59< neph> :)
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20110708 19:50:24< timotei> hi everyone
20110708 19:50:31< timotei> I'm doing the addon management thingy in the eclipse plugin
20110708 19:50:34< timotei> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/462510/Capture.PNG
20110708 19:50:37< timotei> here's how it looks now.
20110708 19:50:50< timotei> on each item in that table there will be a context menu with the download option
20110708 19:51:06< timotei> does anyone have any ideas on what to add/remove/modify to that addon management view?
20110708 20:00:59< timotei> elias: is the addon_manager used by some other tool?
20110708 20:01:10< timotei> elias: it seems a bit annoying the format of the output
20110708 20:01:18< timotei> that is, a bit "unparsable"
20110708 20:01:37< timotei> in the way that, I'd like to use a , or ; between columns, as a separator
20110708 20:01:41< elias> yeah, it's not used by anything
20110708 20:02:05< elias> addons.wesnoth.org just uses the same python module, but it never parses any output
20110708 20:02:18< timotei> or, maybe add an option: --compact, that would use the "," as separator between columns
20110708 20:02:22< timotei> what do you say, can I add it?
20110708 20:02:37< elias> someone added json output to the WML parser
20110708 20:02:51< elias> so if you like json would be very easy to add a --json option
20110708 20:02:54< timotei> hm... I'm talking about the ... wesnoth_addons_manager
20110708 20:02:55< timotei> aa
20110708 20:02:57< timotei> hm
20110708 20:03:01< timotei> ok
20110708 20:03:07< timotei> lemme check it
20110708 20:03:45< timotei> ah.
20110708 20:04:44< timotei> elias: you say it's better to add --json that the "," as a separator?
20110708 20:04:59< timotei> I would like the , better than json
20110708 20:05:17< timotei> since it's just a matter of separation on a single line, no object-semnatics here
20110708 20:05:54< elias> timotei: no, in fact i don't know anything about json
20110708 20:06:00< timotei> ok
20110708 20:06:01< timotei> :)
20110708 20:06:07< timotei> I'll add the --compact mode then:_?
20110708 20:06:15< elias> so just an easier to parse output sounds good to me
20110708 20:06:16< elias> sure
20110708 20:08:08< anonymissimus> timotei: the icon would be nice
20110708 20:08:26< timotei> hmm the icon of the addon? :)
20110708 20:08:28< anonymissimus> if it's missing it's a sever hint of a broken addon
20110708 20:08:54< timotei> well, then the rows will be thicker. but yeah, I think I can do it :P
20110708 20:09:07< anonymissimus> with nasty unknown unit type crashes etc due to a not-so-skilled author^^
20110708 20:09:32< anonymissimus> um well unless that dialog isnt meant for downloading addons ?
20110708 20:10:55< anonymissimus> really, I think there should be some category like "stability of this addon"...number of wmllint messages when running on this addon...or frequency of stderr messages^^
20110708 20:12:23< Soliton> comma as a column seperator is not going to work much better than a space...
20110708 20:13:08< timotei> Soliton: yeah, a ";" it would fine .
20110708 20:13:16< timotei> space for sure isn't good, since the addon can contain spaces
20110708 20:13:20< timotei> that screws up everything
20110708 20:13:25< timotei> do you have a better idea?
20110708 20:14:01< Soliton> i have no idea what you really want to do.
20110708 20:14:18< timotei> just trying to get the columns from the --list of the addons
20110708 20:14:31< timotei> and the space separation is not good, since the addons contain themselves spaces
20110708 20:14:37< timotei> a ; separator is better
20110708 20:14:38< timotei> :P
20110708 20:14:39< anonymissimus> addons shouldnt contain spaces
20110708 20:14:49< timotei> anonymissimus: yeah?
20110708 20:14:54< anonymissimus> yeah
20110708 20:15:01< timotei> ?         Guardian_Order                        Guardian Order                        Octavius/xbrianll                                                                0.0.2                   1       3993      316413   Fri Jul 25 15:45:36 2008 ?            
20110708 20:15:06< timotei> the title can :P
20110708 20:15:23< anonymissimus> hm yeah ok
20110708 20:15:43< anonymissimus> but the addon name must not
20110708 20:16:31< anonymissimus> that doesnt help you I guess if one of those can have spaces
20110708 20:16:45< timotei> yeah. I'll use ; as separator and it's fine
20110708 20:17:23< anonymissimus> btw did you get to implement the "refactor" thing ?
20110708 20:17:46< anonymissimus> that is, renaming of macros with autoupdating references
20110708 20:17:50< timotei> well, the new xtext version (2.0) has something like rename globally 
20110708 20:17:53< timotei> maybe that will work
20110708 20:17:54< anonymissimus> which would be great
20110708 20:17:56< timotei> but that's low priority
20110708 20:18:01< timotei> after GSoC for sure
20110708 20:18:12< timotei> now I'm having enough problems with doing the project dependency tree stuff :P
20110708 20:18:17< timotei> which is a hardcore thing to do
20110708 20:18:26< timotei> but yeah, it's on my ToDo list ;)
20110708 20:18:38< Soliton> well, if you insist on a half-assed solution you could at least take something that does not look ugly like '|'.
20110708 20:19:12< timotei> Soliton: I don't insist. I'm open to suggestions :P
20110708 20:19:33< timotei> hmm, | is used in some addons
20110708 20:19:33< timotei> :(
20110708 20:19:41< Soliton> there can't be unless you be more specific about what you want to do.
20110708 20:19:46< Soliton> as is ;.
20110708 20:20:10< timotei> the wesnoth addon manager lists the addons like this: ?         1vs1Grab                              1vs1Grab                              malicor                                                                          1.0.0                   1       571       8312     Mon Feb 02 16:57:04 2009 ?            
20110708 20:20:17< timotei> I need to figure out the columns that compose it :)
20110708 20:20:21< Soliton> basically so far the suggestion is "can't be done".
20110708 20:20:24< timotei> that is, which text to what column maps
20110708 20:22:36< Soliton> actually using \0s as a delimiter might work in the general case.
20110708 20:23:55< Soliton> -0 would be a common commandline switch for such a mode.
20110708 20:24:17< timotei> ok, lemme try. thanks Soliton 
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20110708 20:26:28< Soliton> or maybe some raw output option that just returns the WML.
20110708 20:27:38< timotei> wow, the raw output has more information
20110708 20:28:09< timotei> I guess i'll use that instead ;))
20110708 20:28:11< timotei> thanks a lot
20110708 20:28:29< Soliton> right, i thought there was already something like that.
20110708 20:28:47< timotei> there is
20110708 20:28:58< Soliton> yeah, just found it as well.
20110708 20:29:15< timotei> at first I was afraid it would be wml code
20110708 20:29:22< timotei> but it's nice the way it is "raw"
20110708 20:29:22< timotei> xD
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20110708 21:12:21< mordante> servus
20110708 21:13:23< mordante> anonymissimus, my initial idea for Lua was to only let it use predefined dialogs in WML
20110708 21:14:25< anonymissimus> which would be way less useful and flexible ?
20110708 21:14:28< mordante> however I never looked at it in much detail since I first wanted gui2 to be finished further
20110708 21:15:07< mordante> probably, however I first wanted gui2 to be finished further
20110708 21:17:00< anonymissimus> have a quick look at the dialog in this post http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=495375#p495375
20110708 21:17:42< anonymissimus> several other wml/lua authors showed that they like that
20110708 21:18:39< anonymissimus> that cant be done with predefined dialogs (unless the author finally gets write access and writes it in wml as you wish)
20110708 21:20:01< anonymissimus> just an example (which eases life for wml authors debugging their scenarios/campaigns)
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20110708 21:22:43< mordante> I'm aware of that however due to the current implementation I get bug reports
20110708 21:23:11< mordante> so IMO the time was not right to allow gui2 in Lua
20110708 21:24:14< mordante> and personally I want to finish gui2 properly before I start to consider Lua
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20110708 21:40:50< tschmitz> fendrin: Did you figure out that joystick vector hex-vector thing?
20110708 21:41:30< tschmitz> fendrin: I stumbled upon a function display::pixel_position_to_hex() that seemed applicable in the code
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20110708 21:49:05< CIA-85> mordante * r50226 /trunk/src/variable.hpp: Fix compilation with gcc-4.7 in C++0x mode.
20110708 21:49:07< CIA-85> mordante * r50225 /branches/1.8/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Fix compilation with gcc-4.7 in C++0x mode.
20110708 21:50:08< mordante> I'm off night
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20110708 21:57:02< timotei> I can't see how a compiler can't compile something without requiring explicit "this->"
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20110708 22:08:27< fendrin> tschmitz: No I didn't. Something went wrong and my resulting angles were all between 60 and 65 degrees. I will have a look at the pixel_position_to_hex(), thanks :-)
20110708 22:08:48< tschmitz> fendrin: Certainly.
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20110708 23:09:55< CIA-85> timotei * r50227 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/builder/ (DependencyTreeBuilder.java WesnothProjectBuilder.java): eclipse plugin: Some small fixes
20110708 23:10:05< CIA-85> timotei * r50228 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/ (5 files in 4 dirs): eclipse plugin: Add the initial Addons Management view
20110708 23:10:14< CIA-85> timotei * r50229 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/icons/icon-addon-publish.png: eclipse plugin: Trim down the icon to 16x16
20110708 23:10:24< CIA-85> timotei * r50230 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/builder/ (3 files): 
20110708 23:10:24< CIA-85> eclipse plugin: Refactor part of the addNode method
20110708 23:10:24< CIA-85> into its own method. Also add some todos and
20110708 23:10:24< CIA-85> comments
20110708 23:10:34< CIA-85> timotei * r50231 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/preferences/AddonUploadPreferencePage.java: 
20110708 23:10:34< CIA-85> eclipse plugin: Refactor the hashtable into
20110708 23:10:34< CIA-85> a global one, to be used by other classes as well
20110708 23:10:43< CIA-85> timotei * r50232 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (action/UploadAddon.java utils/WMLTools.java): 
20110708 23:10:43< CIA-85> eclipse plugin: Refactor the 'runWesnothAddonManager'
20110708 23:10:43< CIA-85> to support a broad more options
20110708 23:10:53< CIA-85> timotei * r50233 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/preferences/AddonUploadPreferencePage.java: 
20110708 23:10:53< CIA-85> eclipse plugin: missed the 'static' keyword for
20110708 23:10:53< CIA-85> the wanted behavior
20110708 23:11:01< CIA-85> timotei * r50234 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/plugin.xml: eclipse plugin: Move the loading message to a better place
20110708 23:11:12< CIA-85> timotei * r50235 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/utils/ (ExternalToolInvoker.java WMLTools.java): 
20110708 23:11:12< CIA-85> eclipse plugin: Done some extra checks for the
20110708 23:11:12< CIA-85> parameters
20110708 23:11:20< CIA-85> timotei * r50236 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/views/AddonsView.java: 
20110708 23:11:20< CIA-85> eclipse plugin: Implement the GUI + some logic for
20110708 23:11:20< CIA-85> the Addons manager
20110708 23:11:29< CIA-85> timotei * r50237 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/views/AddonsView.java: 
20110708 23:11:29< CIA-85> eclipse plugin: Tweak a bit the layout and
20110708 23:11:29< CIA-85> the functionality of the addon manager
20110708 23:11:38< CIA-85> timotei * r50238 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/views/AddonsView.java: eclipse plugin: Implement the download addon feature
20110708 23:11:47< CIA-85> timotei * r50239 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (projects/ProjectUtils.java utils/WorkspaceUtils.java): eclipse plugin: Simplify the project creation methods
20110708 23:11:57< CIA-85> timotei * r50240 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/wizards/ (2 files in 2 dirs): eclipse plugin: Remove unreachable catch exception blocks
20110708 23:12:06< CIA-85> timotei * r50241 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/views/AddonsView.java: 
20110708 23:12:06< CIA-85> eclipse plugin: Create a project for downloaded addon
20110708 23:12:06< CIA-85> if the user wants
20110708 23:12:15< CIA-85> timotei * r50242 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/views/AddonsView.java: eclipse plugin: Tweak the code and add a refresh button
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20110708 23:29:24< Crab_> hi, neph
20110708 23:29:38< Crab_> you were looking for me ?
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20110708 23:40:46< neph> Crab_, yes :) 
20110708 23:40:50< neph> Hi
20110708 23:40:54< Crab_> hi
20110708 23:41:14< neph> I wanted to hear some feedback on my work.
20110708 23:41:23< neph> The 1st evaluation period has come too
20110708 23:42:04< neph> And I also had some "controversial" code in my last commit
20110708 23:43:44< Crab_> yes. Overall, I'm not that happy with the amount of work done, and with the amount of communication we had (in general, ask questions if you need to know something and it should be answered - if not by me then by other mentors.
20110708 23:43:45< Crab_> But, I still consider that we can improve the situation and finish most of what was planned.
20110708 23:44:46< neph> Yes, I also noticed, that am working horribly slow.
20110708 23:44:52< Crab_> and what do you think ?
20110708 23:45:21< neph> But, Crab_, what big parts are still to be done? What isn't exposed yet?
20110708 23:50:11< Crab_> I believe that most of the big things are at least touched. but, I will provide a good status overview as part of my evaluation (I'll post that overview in the wiki)
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20110708 23:50:46< Crab_> I think that I'll do it around monday
20110708 23:51:37< neph> Crab_, ok.
20110708 23:52:07< neph> I think most of the delays in my work are caused more by lack of experience, not because of communication
20110708 23:52:21< neph> I get stuck at a lot of little problems, that are tricky
20110708 23:52:31< neph> Like the last commit
20110708 23:52:50< neph> Did a lot of research before doing it the "wrong" way
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20110708 23:53:02< Crab_> and, about the last commit...
20110708 23:53:15< Crab_> what do you consider hacky - the removal process for candidate actions ?
20110708 23:54:55< Crab_> your removal code (commented) can be easily improved
20110708 23:55:10< Crab_> just make 1 loop to collect all the IDs of CAs that want to be removed
20110708 23:55:18< Crab_> then, another loop over those ids to remove them
20110708 23:56:02< Crab_> (afk for around 20 minutes)
20110708 23:57:18< neph> I'll be leaving now, too
20110708 23:57:25< neph> That's somewhat the way I've done it
20110708 23:58:01< neph> This part seems to be done, what should I tackle till you complete your evaluation?
20110708 23:58:12< neph> I'll read the log
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