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20110710 00:13:17< tschmitz> anonymissimus: yeah I didn't have to mess with putty at all to get it to work on my (dad's) Windows 7 machine
20110710 00:14:36< tschmitz> didn't seem to help here on my Windows XP, either. So oh well.
20110710 00:18:19< enchilado> WINDOZE LOL
20110710 00:21:28< enchilado> Erm. Actually, I like Windows. The term "windoze" annoys me.
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20110710 00:47:05< fendrin> enchilado: You like Windows? That annoys me :-)
20110710 00:53:33< anonymissimus> fendrin: name me a Linux distribution which is both as stable as debian btu at teh same time as user friendly as ubuntu
20110710 00:54:20< anonymissimus> no matter on which machine I installed a Linux, I always have problems with a certain hardware object not getting to work no matter what I do
20110710 00:54:45< anonymissimus> despite trying xxx solutions foudn by google
20110710 00:54:55< anonymissimus> thats the problem about Linux
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20110710 00:55:50< fendrin> anonymissimus: You need to buy the hardware with Linux in mind. That is working for me since ages.
20110710 00:56:33< anonymissimus> afaik not in particular the Linux devs' fault though; the hardware manufacturers seem to not make their specs available to them
20110710 00:56:35< fendrin> anonymissimus: I switched to Linux in 1998, at that time the situation was much worse, still I had no problems.
20110710 00:56:48< fendrin> anonymissimus: Yeah, that is too true.
20110710 00:57:21< anonymissimus> and I did buy with Linux in mind btw, no luck anyway
20110710 00:59:58< fendrin> The ubuntu long term support versions are both, user friendly and stable.
20110710 01:01:47< zookeeper> i'd happily move to ubuntu or something if not for some key windows-only apps
20110710 01:04:05< fendrin> zookeeper: Sure, I see the need to use Windows in some cases as well. I was only joking with enchilado, I hope their is no bad blood yet. I can understand that one needs to use Windows, but linking it is another question.
20110710 01:06:07< enchilado> fendrin: I prefer Linux, but I like Windows too.
20110710 01:06:28< zookeeper> if someone would reassure me that it's feasible to set things up so that i could run windows virtualized from linux, then that'd be a tempting option, but i seriously doubt it's a light enough ordeal to want to go through.
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20110710 01:08:13< shadowmaster> It is possible to virtualize Windows on Linux (even better if your CPU supports hardware-assisted vritualization), but at least in VirtualBox's case, the OpenGL and Direct3D acceleration support is really lacking.
20110710 01:08:14< enchilado> Also just to clarify, the term "windoze" annoys me because it's stupid, not because I like Windows.
20110710 01:08:20< shadowmaster> at least for Windows guests on Linux hosts.
20110710 01:08:41< shadowmaster> enchilado: ok, so why bring it up in the first place?
20110710 01:09:36< zookeeper> shadowmaster, well, yeah, i'd need either one of those
20110710 01:09:40< enchilado> shadowmaster: I don't know.
20110710 01:09:48< enchilado> shadowmaster: sometimes I just say stuff.
20110710 01:10:44< shadowmaster> trust me, it was fairly noisy in here when I was random like that.
20110710 01:10:57< enchilado> :S
20110710 01:11:25 * zookeeper seconds that
20110710 01:11:38< enchilado> I'm erratic and impulsive.
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20110710 01:13:17< fendrin> zookeeper: VMWare works well for me, out of the box. Isn't such a big deal.
20110710 01:14:20< fendrin> okay, I am off. Bye :-9
20110710 01:14:22< fendrin> :-)
20110710 01:14:32< shadowmaster> only VMWare's paid versions support software-only virtualization.
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20110710 01:15:31< shadowmaster> and VirtualBox, of course. Then again, most modern CPUs have hardware virtualization support unless they are those locked-down mobile models.
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20110710 01:18:43< zookeeper> well, vmware player sure sounds more attractive than virtualbox.
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20110710 03:54:46< enchilado> What do I do if I see a problem with art that's posted in the Restricted section?
20110710 03:58:44< shadowmaster> PM the author
20110710 03:59:35< enchilado> He might not agree with me, though... but okay
20110710 04:00:00< shadowmaster> PM Jetrel as a last resort, but odds are you don't need to do that.
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20110710 04:01:41< enchilado> It's not a clear problem like pillow-shading or anything, just a few things that are strange/could be improved
20110710 04:01:57< enchilado> I'll PM Sleepwalker and see what he says/if he replies
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20110710 09:06:21< CIA-85> jetryl * r50256 /trunk/data/core/ (85 files in 3 dirs): New animations for the horseman.
20110710 09:07:50< CIA-85> espreon * r50257 /trunk/data/core/images/units/human-loyalists/ (79 files): Ran umcpropfix.
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20110710 12:32:17< CIA-85> beetlenaut * r50258 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/scenarios/12_Revenge.cfg: Fixed bug causing enemy to recruit too many Chocobones on EASY
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20110710 14:25:10< Soliton> esr: see r50258; looks like wmllint doesn't check LIMIT_RECRUITS usage. maybe that would be easy to add?
20110710 14:26:00< esr> Soliton: I'll investigate.
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20110710 18:58:05< mordante> servus
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20110710 19:21:21< Sytyi> mordante: hi!
20110710 19:21:41< mordante> hi Sytyi 
20110710 19:23:32< Sytyi> mordante: Prototype is working. about 10 % as stand alone util. Now implementing work with links and super tags. Nearly end - debugging.
20110710 19:23:57< mordante> ok good
20110710 19:24:43< Sytyi> mordante: But I have two problems and some solutions. Need your help to choose.
20110710 19:26:05< Sytyi> mordante: Firstly - the interface of config class allows to get a list of all children only by const. I can not change anything while validation config, only generate warnings.
20110710 19:26:48< Sytyi> mordante: The solution is to make validator a friend of config :-), but I don't know friends so much
20110710 19:36:41< mordante> maybe we should then only warn for the initial version and not set defaults
20110710 19:37:01< mordante> looking at the code I don't directly see a clean solution
20110710 19:38:34< Sytyi> mordante: the second problem is much more deeper. 
20110710 19:39:16< Sytyi> mordante: Good warning schould contain filename and line number at least.
20110710 19:40:03< mordante> brb
20110710 19:41:35< Sytyi> mordante: But config object just dont have that information. The solution is to position error by parent tag recursively (i.e. tag gui/window/background/draw/vircle is not allowed in this context) or to put validation inside parsing stream.
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20110710 19:42:29< Sytyi> mordante: I'm reading parsing code right now to understand how it works, but it will take a bit of time  
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20110710 20:15:05< mordante> Sytyi, I also wonder whether you should validate after reading or during the reading
20110710 20:15:16< mordante> at least during you still have the line number
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20110710 20:29:36< Sytyi> mordante: good. Then I will think more and then tell how I will include validation inside parser.
20110710 20:29:56< Sytyi> mordante: Have you worked on schema markup? 
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20110710 20:32:54< mordante> you mean the patch?
20110710 20:34:53< Sytyi> mordante: yes. That would be good to have right markup, before testing validation. 
20110710 20:35:33< Sytyi> mordante: But If you have no time, I'll do it while validating. :-)
20110710 20:37:17< mordante> that patch has a lot more as only schema validation
20110710 20:37:40< mordante> so is there a specific part I have to look at, or can you pastebin the relevant part
20110710 20:41:37< Sytyi> mordante: I mean https://gna.org/patch/?2629 
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20110710 20:42:00< Sytyi> mordante: That would be great if you checked it,
20110710 20:42:24< Sytyi> mordante: or I can pastebin you my current schema.cfg, you're right
20110710 20:47:49< mordante> please pastebin it
20110710 20:51:09< Sytyi> mordante: http://pastebin.com/vyrcHcnR
20110710 20:51:37< Sytyi> mordante: there are little problem with types, but that - later. 
20110710 21:01:05< mordante> Sytyi, why do you have an extra closing double quote error or intentional?
20110710 21:01:32< Sytyi> mordante: that was gue to greedy regex  .....   .+"? .....
20110710 21:01:57< Sytyi> replaced with ... \^.+\$"?
20110710 21:02:06< Sytyi> *gue=due
20110710 21:03:32< mordante> I for example mean »"^true|false|yes|no$""«
20110710 21:04:13< mordante> also think you need more brace there eg »"^(true|false|yes|no)$"«
20110710 21:05:01< Sytyi> mordante: maybe , but I need only to match value, 
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20110710 21:05:23< mordante> also the f_xxx types can contain a formula, which is matched by »\(.*\)«
20110710 21:05:51< mordante> or better »\(.+\)«
20110710 21:06:33< mordante> your initial match only needs true at the start of line, false anywhere, yes anywhere or no at the end
20110710 21:07:21< mordante> maybe the ^ and $ should be implicit... but not sure whether that gives other issue
20110710 21:07:25< mordante> issues*
20110710 21:07:51< Sytyi> mordante: I put that types only to stop SG complaining about unknown types. When their time come, we will do them together. Now the hierarchy is more interesting to me. Is that hierarchy right or not? 
20110710 21:08:07< mordante> ah ok
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20110710 21:10:40< mordante> I think it looks fine, no real comments. I'm curious how well the super and the link will work
20110710 21:11:41< Sytyi> mordante: Right now I'm debugging to catch segmentation fault while expanding all "inherited" tag
20110710 21:11:53< mordante> ok
20110710 21:12:01< Sytyi> where expanding means copying keys etc
20110710 21:12:30< Sytyi> mordante: And I have realized work with link like with real tags :-)
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20110710 21:13:22< Sytyi> mordante: super is harder to implement like this, so I decided to expand it before saving the output of SG. 
20110710 21:14:02< Sytyi> mordante: later expanding can be done inside validator to make schema.cfg smaller.
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20110710 21:16:13< mordante> ok
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20110710 21:22:28< mordante> Sytyi, do you have more questions at the moment?
20110710 21:22:35< Sytyi> mordante: no.
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20110710 21:22:47< mordante> ok then see you later
20110710 21:22:50< tschmitz> is zoomed-out mode anywhere in the preferences menu?
20110710 21:22:52< mordante> I'm off bye
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20110710 23:26:10< vultraz> OK this is somewhat trivial, but I noticed that in AOI scen6.cfg turns= and next_scenario= appear at the bottom of the file, right before [/scenario] instead of at the top like in 1-5. Also in scen7.cfg turns appears at the bottom.
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20110710 23:38:03< tschmitz> In the code that handles undo and redo ... when you undo a move action, the "undo_action" object is transferred from the undo list to the redo list *after* the move animation completes rather than before it starts
20110710 23:38:39< tschmitz> I was thinking about changing that so that it happens before the move animation starts
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20110710 23:40:05< tschmitz> is that going to be OK?
20110710 23:41:16< shadowmaster> vultraz: that makes no difference for the game engine.
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