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20110725 02:55:55< CIA-57> ai0867 * r50399 /trunk/src/whiteboard/side_actions.cpp: Fix a warning
20110725 02:55:56< AI0867> tschmitz: ^
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20110725 09:17:10< Nephro> wesbot, seen Crab_
20110725 09:17:10< wesbot> Nephro: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 6d 21h ago.  14h 21m ago they left with the message: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
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20110725 14:07:22< yieldthought> Hi all! Does anyone have a moment to help me with modify_active_ai_for_side in ai/manager.hpp? I'm trying to modify known aspects in the AI from cpp code inside the wesnoth executable (rather than with WML).
20110725 14:08:26< yieldthought> For example, modifying the aggression known aspect. I'm trying to create a config and pass it to modify_active_ai_for_side, but when I call ai::manager::to_config to check, the modification has been ignored. Anyone have any idea what goes on here / what I *should* be doing instead?
20110725 14:10:19< zookeeper> Crab_ should know, but i don't know at what times he tends to be online.
20110725 14:13:39< yieldthought> Thanks, now I wish this webclient had pounce / online notifications; maybe I'll make a forum post
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20110725 14:57:58< Crab_> yieldthought: what you're doing should work, if you pass a proper config..
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20110725 16:09:10< yieldthought> Ah, hi Crab_! Zookeeper told me to look out for you earlier - I'm having some problems with modify_active_side_for_ai
20110725 16:09:44< Crab_> yes, I've seen it in the logs, and left an answer for you
20110725 16:10:20< yieldthought> Wow, I'm impressed, I didn't think you'd actually check the logs; now I shall do the same
20110725 16:11:10< yieldthought> Ok, thanks. Yes, I think forming a proper config is what I'm having trouble with
20110725 16:11:22< Crab_> can you pastebin the code ?
20110725 16:11:41< yieldthought> Sure, although the forum post has the gist of it; I'm trying new variations all the time
20110725 16:12:55< yieldthought> My latest attempt to unrestand the format required: http://pastebin.com/PN4QecCY
20110725 16:13:42< yieldthought> Sorry, just realized I didn't link tot he forum post ehre either: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=34503
20110725 16:14:24< yieldthought> logging with ai/mod just tells me: info ai/mod: [modify_ai] change failed 
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20110725 16:17:44< Crab_> I see.
20110725 16:17:55< Crab_> reason: config is wrong
20110725 16:18:07< Crab_> as of now, you should change one of facets of aggression aspect
20110725 16:18:54< yieldthought> so in the config dump, I only see [aspect]...id=aggression...[default]...value=0.4[/default][/aspect]
20110725 16:19:05< yieldthought> is default a facet name? Or should I be adding a new facet?
20110725 16:19:50< Crab_> as of now, the usual way is to do like macros in data/core/macros/ai.cfg do
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20110725 16:20:56< Crab_> see the MODIFY_AI_ADD_ASPECT macro
20110725 16:21:28< Crab_> expand {MODIFY_AI_ADD_ASPECT 1 aggression (id=always value=0.5)}
20110725 16:21:53< Crab_> this will give you a more-or-less correct config
20110725 16:21:59< yieldthought> id=always is part of the facet WML?
20110725 16:22:06< Crab_> yes
20110725 16:22:20< Crab_> those things will be somewhat simpified once the lua-based GSOC is done
20110725 16:23:07< yieldthought> info ai/mod: [modify_ai] add success - Thank-you!!
20110725 16:25:15< Crab_> great. verify with :inspect
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20110725 19:23:10< CIA-57> ivanovic * r50400 /trunk/ (16 files in 15 dirs): updated Russian translation
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20110725 23:10:52< Espreon> Ivanovic: I have a fix for bug 16477. You don't care if I add pofix rules to update variable uses, do you? And yes, I wish to apply this fix to 1.8; it won't add any new strings.
20110725 23:11:22< Ivanovic> wesbot: but 16477
20110725 23:11:27< Ivanovic> wesbot: bug #16477
20110725 23:11:28< wesbot> Bug #16477  Assigned to: None  Status: None  Priority: 5 - Normal
20110725 23:11:28< wesbot> Summary: Research bug in "4p - A New Land"
20110725 23:11:28< wesbot> Original submission: My locale is "ja_JP.utf8" (Japanese).1, cannot view t
20110725 23:11:31< wesbot> ranslated messageWhen Mage begins researching, default research is 'agricultur
20110725 23:11:34< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?16477
20110725 23:11:37< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=9908
20110725 23:11:47< Espreon> Wait, pofix won't take care of the msgstrs.
20110725 23:11:50< Espreon> Bah.
20110725 23:12:15< Espreon> Meh, lemme test.
20110725 23:19:36< Espreon> Ivanovic: OK, it does apply changes to the msgstrs.
20110725 23:19:40< Espreon> Should I go for it?
20110725 23:20:19< Ivanovic> Espreon: sounds like a case of a wrong usage of a variable
20110725 23:20:36< Ivanovic> IMO it is better if translators are aware of this part themselves, so that it possibly does not happen again
20110725 23:20:59< Ivanovic> so maybe better send an explaining mail to the i18n list including the "as is" vs "as it should be" diff
20110725 23:21:13< Espreon> Uh, it's not changing to a variable that already exists.
20110725 23:21:36< Espreon> It's changing to a variable that I added locally.
20110725 23:21:52 * Ivanovic is clueless regarding what you want to change/fix exactly
20110725 23:22:02< Ivanovic> some example/diff/whatever would be helpful#
20110725 23:22:08< Espreon> Yeah.
20110725 23:23:06< Espreon> Ivanovic: http://pastebin.com/L5qa4QvJ
20110725 23:23:23< Espreon> I want to use pofix to update the translations to use the new variable.
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20110725 23:24:58< Ivanovic> hmm, the fix itself looks fine to me
20110725 23:25:14< Ivanovic> though i'd say: yeah, use pofix to apply it once to all langs, but don't add it as permanent rule
20110725 23:25:30< Espreon> OK.
20110725 23:25:56< Ivanovic> you know, having this as permanent rule possibly sounds too dangerous to me
20110725 23:26:18< Espreon> And why's that?
20110725 23:26:21< Ivanovic> (since var replacement can result to strange things if the same vars are used elsewhere, too)
20110725 23:27:09< Espreon> I doubt it is.
20110725 23:29:10< Ivanovic> n8
20110725 23:31:44< CIA-57> espreon * r50401 /trunk/ (58 files in 2 dirs): Fixed bug #16477.
20110725 23:37:44< Espreon> And I think we shouldn't care about the second point of the bug.
20110725 23:38:04< Espreon> The dialog says that they are studying agriculture, so... yeah.
20110725 23:38:27< Espreon> Oh wait... hmmm...
20110725 23:38:49< Espreon> Ah, he was saying that it wasn't being counted.
20110725 23:38:51< Espreon> Well, it is now.
20110725 23:38:53< Espreon> So... yeah./
20110725 23:40:50< Espreon> And it isn't in 1.8.
20110725 23:40:53< Espreon> Hmmm...
20110725 23:41:16< Soliton> 1.8 is dead.
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20110725 23:42:40< Espreon> I'm pretty sure I've read that another 1.8 release would be considered if there were enough translation updates and bug fixes.
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20110725 23:43:31< Soliton> tschmitz: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?18414  can that be related to the whiteboard?
20110725 23:44:17< Soliton> Espreon: i think more like security issues but i wasn't too serious anyway.
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