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20110726 00:04:07< CIA-57> espreon * r50402 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/ANL_utils/ (ANL_leader_options.cfg ANL_research_options.cfg): Added Pango markup that should have been added awhile ago; removed some TODOs.
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20110726 00:27:27< CIA-57> espreon * r50403 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/ANL_utils/ANL_leader_options.cfg: Use the transparent portraits.
20110726 00:37:03< boucman> night all
20110726 00:38:12< Espreon> Goodnight.
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20110726 01:34:19< CIA-57> espreon * r50404 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/ (6 files): Unhyphenate words such as 'South-East'.
20110726 01:36:35< CIA-57> espreon * r50405 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/ (4 files): Unhyphenated more directional words.
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20110726 02:05:35< CIA-57> espreon * r50406 /branches/1.8/ (57 files in 3 dirs): Ported r50401 to 1.8, thus fixing bug #16477 in 1.8.
20110726 02:09:31< CIA-57> espreon * r50407 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Updated the changelogs.
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20110726 08:21:48< tschmitz> AI0867: Thanks for fixing that warning
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20110726 12:11:53< neph> Hello Crab_ 
20110726 12:12:15< Crab_> hi, neph
20110726 12:12:42< neph> Have you seen my latest commits?
20110726 12:13:03< neph> I've somewhat made the persistence part we were talkking about
20110726 12:13:10< neph> but I left some notes right in the code
20110726 12:13:30< Crab_> no, will take a look at them now
20110726 12:15:49< neph> And we still didn't get to discuss the earlier parts
20110726 12:16:05< Crab_> do you have time today in 2-3 hours ?
20110726 12:16:24< neph> That is about 2 gmt
20110726 12:16:25< neph> ?
20110726 12:16:31< Crab_> yes
20110726 12:16:40< neph> I do yes
20110726 12:17:02< Crab_> then, let's talk today
20110726 12:17:15< neph> ok
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20110726 13:10:36< CIA-57> ivanovic * r50408 /trunk/ (10 files in 8 dirs): updated Galician and Russian translation
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20110726 14:50:50< CIA-57> ivanovic * r50409 /branches/1.8/po/ (5 files in 5 dirs): updated Estonian translation
20110726 14:51:04< CIA-57> ivanovic * r50410 /trunk/ (7 files in 6 dirs): updated Estonian translation
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20110726 15:05:27< neph_> Ok, Crab_ I'm here
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20110726 15:22:09< Crab_> neph_: I'll almost here... a few minutes
20110726 15:33:36< Crab_> neph_: so, I've taken a look at your persistence implementation
20110726 15:36:23< Crab_> neph_: and there's a problem - the approach is ok, but the storage place is not good - you store the data in a global, so if there are multiple lua ai's, the data ends up shared.
20110726 15:36:51< Crab_> neph_: instead, you should store it in context (note what context_.load() does to get from global state to our specific context for this side)
20110726 15:38:18< neph_> Crab_, yes, I think I left a note about the storage place, I thought it was not right
20110726 15:38:31< neph_> but decided to implement it anyways, since moving would be easier
20110726 15:39:11< Crab_> no, no note there. but you're right, it's easy to move
20110726 15:39:52< Crab_> now about the parts that are missing
20110726 15:41:11< Crab_> you need to expose the AI targets to lua (allow to get/modify them, thus allowing for lua-based goals). bonus points for reworking the target system to allow multiple targets of different/same type on same square.
20110726 15:41:41< Crab_> the terminology here is as follows: there are AI goals, goal is part of composite AI. each goal is a factory for targets.
20110726 15:45:24< neph_> Meaning, I have to do something very similar I did with aspects?
20110726 15:47:00< Crab_> yes
20110726 15:47:07< Crab_> but easier, since there's no mess there
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20110726 15:47:17< Crab_> each target is a 'transient marker on a map location', like 'this village at (3,4) is a target of type VILLAGE with value of 3.5'
20110726 15:47:57< Crab_> see src/ai/composite/goal.hpp
20110726 15:48:13< Crab_> there are some c++ goals there, and the generic goal interface
20110726 15:48:46< Crab_> ->      virtual void add_targets(std::back_insert_iterator< std::vector< target > > target_list);
20110726 15:49:23< Crab_> as usual, the lua engine has to override 	virtual void do_parse_engine_from_config( const config &cfg, std::back_insert_iterator<std::vector< engine_ptr > > b );
20110726 15:50:31< Crab_> s/do_parse_engine_from_config/do_parse_goal_from_config
20110726 15:50:39< neph_> of course, yes
20110726 15:52:18< neph_> that shouldn't be a problem, I think I got the approach well enough
20110726 15:52:43< Crab_> great. then, the persistence part would need to be finished (not much to do there, only move the storage location)
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20110726 15:53:58< Crab_> then, you will need to provide examples and proper documentation for all the work on aspects and goals and candidate actions that you've done. examples should be inside wesnoth's data dir, as an example lua-including ai.
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20110726 15:55:20< Crab_> this should (provided that no bugs pop in) end the mandatory part of the project
20110726 15:55:39< Crab_> afterwards, there'll be some time for testing it all out, and there, as you've already worked with the system for several months, I'd like to hear how your earlier ideas about the 'brain' have changed/evolved
20110726 15:59:05< Crab_> neph_: also, note : feather:/wesnoth/src%fgrep -Rni 'fai' ../data/campaigns/ | grep engine        ../data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/16_The_Chief_Must_Die.cfg:227:                engine=fai              ../data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/03_Kalian_under_Attack.cfg:160:                    engine=fai
20110726 15:59:23< Crab_> I'd like those two places to be re-coded using lua instead of formula AI.
20110726 15:59:40< Crab_> the first is patrol, so your existing patrol generation function will help
20110726 16:00:15< Crab_> the second (in 03_Kalian_under_Attack.cfg ) is simpler, but in the process of coding it, you'll notice that you have some more things missing
20110726 16:00:50< Crab_> afair, it's the next_hop function = 'what is the next location to move this turn if I want to move from X to Y ?'
20110726 16:01:28< neph_> ok, to sum up: (1) tweak the persistence code (2) expose goals (3) finish the docs and provide a working example (4) test (5) refactor parts of LoW  (6) discuss[probably rework the existing docs] my idea
20110726 16:02:55< Crab_> yes. (5)will require some support stuff to be coded, as well
20110726 16:03:31< Crab_> I think that it's all quite doable in the time that's left
20110726 16:03:48< Crab_> without too much hurrying (provided that no annoying bugs show up during testing :) )
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20110726 16:32:42< neph_> ok then that's that. When can I catch you here, Crab_, if I run into trouble?
20110726 16:33:42< Crab_> if I'm not here, just mail me, I'll get the mail on my mobile phone, so, in most cases, I'll be able to answer almost immediately.
20110726 16:34:16< Crab_> starting from next week, I won't be online here too much because of all the funny issues w/ relocation
20110726 16:34:27< Crab_> but I will read the logs, in any case
20110726 16:36:07< neph_> alright, cya then. I'll mail if there's a need to
20110726 16:36:29< Crab_> or if there are questions, I'll be glad to answer.
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20110726 17:03:30< esr> Is target_language_name a legitimate attribute?  It only occurs in ANL.
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20110726 17:06:32< timotei21> hmm
20110726 17:06:37< timotei21> internet!
20110726 17:06:42< timotei21> and somebody uses my nick
20110726 17:06:43< timotei21> grrr
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20110726 17:08:21< timotei> fendrin, I'm back :D, even if my notebook is broken
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20110726 17:14:35< fendrin> timotei: cool
20110726 17:14:56< fendrin> timotei: I am going to play d&d soon.
20110726 17:15:08< timotei> fendrin, take your time. I'm still setting up the old computer
20110726 17:15:15< timotei> to work on it while the notebook is in service
20110726 17:15:33< timotei> and I need to flush all local commits. Thanks God the HDD didn't had any problems :P
20110726 17:15:33< fendrin> timotei: We can work tomorrow all day on the plugin.
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20110726 17:26:12< CIA-57> timotei * r50411 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
20110726 17:26:12< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Create a simple wml parser that
20110726 17:26:12< CIA-57> parses the xtext's resource of a cfg file into a WMLConfig
20110726 17:26:12< CIA-57> structure
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20110726 17:27:28< CIA-57> timotei * r50412 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
20110726 17:27:28< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Switch over to using a Multimap
20110726 17:27:28< CIA-57> for storing the variables in each WML Config fil
20110726 17:28:02< CIA-57> timotei * r50413 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (4 files in 3 dirs): eclipse plugin: Implement the adding of new found variables
20110726 17:28:13< CIA-57> timotei * r50414 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
20110726 17:28:13< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Make the variables reside in the
20110726 17:28:13< CIA-57> project cache instead of the file
20110726 17:28:54< CIA-57> timotei * r50415 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
20110726 17:28:54< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Get rid of the WMLSaxHandler
20110726 17:28:54< CIA-57> and replace it with the SimpleWMLParser
20110726 17:29:08< CIA-57> timotei * r50416 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
20110726 17:29:08< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Add the parsed variables to the
20110726 17:29:08< CIA-57> variables proposal list
20110726 17:29:08< CIA-57> timotei * r50417 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/changelog: eclipse plugin: fix a typo in the changelog
20110726 17:29:27< CIA-57> timotei * r50418 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth.ui/src/org/wesnoth/ui/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
20110726 17:29:28< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Re-implement the start-end tag
20110726 17:29:28< CIA-57> matching since the previous one made the CPU to
20110726 17:29:28< CIA-57> stay on 100% and keep spawning threads for the
20110726 17:29:28< CIA-57> modified xtext resource model
20110726 17:29:41< CIA-57> timotei * r50419 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth.ui/src/org/wesnoth/ui/editor/WMLAbstractDirtyEditorCallback.java: eclipse plugin: Add a clarifying comment
20110726 17:29:57< CIA-57> timotei * r50420 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/wml/core/SimpleWMLParser.java: 
20110726 17:29:58< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: fix the logic for handling the
20110726 17:29:58< CIA-57> 'configOnly' boolean parameter, and add cases
20110726 17:29:58< CIA-57> for handling removed variables
20110726 17:30:16< CIA-57> timotei * r50421 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/builder/WesnothProjectBuilder.java: eclipse plugin: Remove an obsolete method
20110726 17:30:32< CIA-57> timotei * r50422 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (11 files in 6 dirs): 
20110726 17:30:32< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Major overhaul for the ProjectCache.
20110726 17:30:32< CIA-57> Use the java's built-in serialize/deserialize mechanism
20110726 17:30:32< CIA-57> instead of manually doing save/loading.
20110726 17:30:50< CIA-57> timotei * r50423 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/wml/core/WMLVariable.java: eclipse plugin: Fix a NullPointerException
20110726 17:31:07< CIA-57> timotei * r50424 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
20110726 17:31:07< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Refactor a bit the deserialization
20110726 17:31:07< CIA-57> to deserialize properly the DependencyListBuilder
20110726 17:31:28< CIA-57> timotei * r50425 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth.ui/src/org/wesnoth/ui/folding/WMLFoldingRegionProvider.java: eclipse plugin: Fix a NPE exception
20110726 17:31:40< CIA-57> timotei * r50426 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
20110726 17:31:40< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Refactored the whole variable
20110726 17:31:40< CIA-57> scoping code. Now it is properly shown in the content
20110726 17:31:40< CIA-57> assist only if the current scope if found in the
20110726 17:31:41< CIA-57> variable's list.
20110726 17:32:07< CIA-57> timotei * r50427 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20110726 17:32:07< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Use a separate log file for the
20110726 17:32:07< CIA-57> invoked tools
20110726 17:32:15< CIA-57> timotei * r50428 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
20110726 17:32:15< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Add support for custom events
20110726 17:32:15< CIA-57> in the content assist
20110726 17:32:33< CIA-57> timotei * r50429 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
20110726 17:32:33< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Refactor a bit the SimpleWMLParser
20110726 17:32:33< CIA-57> to make it more concrete on what it can do
20110726 17:32:49< CIA-57> timotei * r50430 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (6 files in 5 dirs): 
20110726 17:32:49< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Add a simple lua parser that parses
20110726 17:32:49< CIA-57> the tags from lua code.
20110726 17:33:07< CIA-57> timotei * r50431 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/wml/core/SimpleLuaParser.java: 
20110726 17:33:07< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Implement parsing of the lua
20110726 17:33:07< CIA-57> tag's children attributes
20110726 17:33:33< CIA-57> timotei * r50432 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/ (9 files in 4 dirs): 
20110726 17:33:33< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Start working on merging the current
20110726 17:33:33< CIA-57> grammar generated models with the already existing in
20110726 17:33:33< CIA-57> the schema package.
20110726 17:33:47< CIA-57> timotei * r50433 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (13 files in 5 dirs): 
20110726 17:33:47< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Set the default for EString attributes
20110726 17:33:47< CIA-57> to the empty string instead of null
20110726 17:34:06< CIA-57> timotei * r50434 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (schema/SchemaParser.java utils/WMLUtils.java): 
20110726 17:34:06< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Transform the SchemaParser's
20110726 17:34:06< CIA-57> getOutput method to a general utility method
20110726 17:34:23< CIA-57> timotei * r50435 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/ (13 files in 5 dirs): 
20110726 17:34:23< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Add the rest of old Tag and
20110726 17:34:23< CIA-57> TagKey classes attributes to the Grammar ones
20110726 17:34:43< CIA-57> timotei * r50436 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/wml/ (WmlFactory2.java impl/ impl/WmlFactory2Impl.java): 
20110726 17:34:43< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Enhance the existing WMLFactory
20110726 17:34:43< CIA-57> with some methods
20110726 17:35:00< CIA-57> timotei * r50437 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/ (7 files in 4 dirs): 
20110726 17:35:00< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Add convenience methods in the
20110726 17:35:00< CIA-57> generated grammar classes for converting
20110726 17:35:00< CIA-57> the WMLExpression to WMLTag/Key
20110726 17:35:19< CIA-57> timotei * r50438 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/ (9 files in 4 dirs): 
20110726 17:35:19< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: The cardinality operations should be
20110726 17:35:19< CIA-57> available on every WMLExpression
20110726 17:35:52< CIA-57> timotei * r50439 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (14 files in 9 dirs): 
20110726 17:35:52< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Refactor the whole generated schema.
20110726 17:35:52< CIA-57> Now it bases on the same classes the grammar model
20110726 17:35:52< CIA-57> uses.
20110726 17:36:17< CIA-57> timotei * r50440 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (schema/SchemaParser.java utils/StringUtils.java): eclipse plugin: Trim the quotes when adding a new primitive
20110726 17:36:59< CIA-57> timotei * r50441 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (29 files in 16 dirs): 
20110726 17:36:59< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Rework a bit the grammar to
20110726 17:36:59< CIA-57> remove pure DataTypes grammar elements
20110726 17:37:33< CIA-57> timotei * r50442 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src-gen/org/wesnoth/wml/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 
20110726 17:37:33< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Oops. Forgot to commit some files
20110726 17:37:33< CIA-57> in the previous commit
20110726 17:37:51< CIA-57> timotei * r50443 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (12 files in 6 dirs): 
20110726 17:37:51< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Move the .wml.core classes into .wml
20110726 17:37:51< CIA-57> and remove the debug information
20110726 17:38:15< CIA-57> timotei * r50444 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF: 
20110726 17:38:15< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Delete the just removed package
20110726 17:38:15< CIA-57> from the export list
20110726 17:38:36< CIA-57> timotei * r50445 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (10 files in 8 dirs): 
20110726 17:38:36< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Create the 'getWMLTags' and 'getWMLKeys'
20110726 17:38:36< CIA-57> methods and attach them to the WMLTag class instead
20110726 17:38:36< CIA-57> of using the WMLUtils class
20110726 17:39:14< CIA-57> timotei * r50446 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/wml/SimpleLuaParser.java: 
20110726 17:39:14< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: The parsed tag's keys should be
20110726 17:39:14< CIA-57> required
20110726 17:40:27< CIA-57> timotei * r50447 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (12 files in 10 dirs): 
20110726 17:40:27< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Implement the suggesting of
20110726 17:40:27< CIA-57> parsed lua tags & keys :D
20110726 17:41:52< CIA-57> timotei * r50448 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (45 files in 12 dirs): 
20110726 17:41:52< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Make the whole WML Grammar implement
20110726 17:41:52< CIA-57> java.io.Serializable
20110726 17:42:34< CIA-57> timotei * r50449 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/tests/ (4 files in 2 dirs): eclipse plugin: Reorganize a bit the tests
20110726 17:42:58< CIA-57> timotei * r50450 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/ (15 files in 8 dirs): 
20110726 17:42:58< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Fix the grammar, so now the eol
20110726 17:42:58< CIA-57> tokens will be part of the last grammar element
20110726 17:43:24< CIA-57> timotei * r50451 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/tests/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
20110726 17:43:24< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Create a Test Suite to handle all tests
20110726 17:43:24< CIA-57> and add the tests for data/ directory
20110726 17:43:49< CIA-57> timotei * r50452 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/manual/dev_manual.tex: 
20110726 17:43:49< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Document the process neccessarry for
20110726 17:43:49< CIA-57> running the test suite.
20110726 17:44:07< CIA-57> timotei * r50453 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (7 files in 4 dirs): eclipse plugin: Add tests for parsing the configs
20110726 17:50:12< Crendgrim> I wonder when CIA gets banned because of channel flooding... :>
20110726 17:53:50< Gambit> Crendgrim: that's not how flood kicks work.
20110726 17:54:05< Gambit> It's a server wide messages over time rate.
20110726 17:54:52< Gambit> Note the delays of up to a whole second between messages.
20110726 17:56:45< Crab_> so, it's riding on the edge of the ban :)
20110726 18:00:10< Gambit> This can sometimes lead to post-net-split flood kicks as all of your messages hit a reconnecting server at once :(
20110726 18:01:16< Gambit> Though that's much rarer.
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20110726 18:32:04< Crendgrim> Gambit: that's why I said *when*. So, when timotei would start to commit even faster ;)
20110726 18:33:10< timotei> Gambit, Crendgrim CIA-57 is lucky since I am on a very slow PC
20110726 18:33:16< timotei> so commits aren't as fast as normal
20110726 18:33:35< timotei> but don't be mad at time. It's a 3 days work in thoses commits combined with no internet :P
20110726 18:33:53< Crendgrim> :D
20110726 18:33:55< timotei> I was so scared when the notebook stopped working. I though all work has gone :(
20110726 18:33:59< timotei> but I got it back :D
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20110726 18:37:18< timotei> hmmm
20110726 18:37:27< timotei> haven't seen zaroth for a looong time :-S
20110726 18:38:54< Gambit> Crendgrim: CIA probably matches the throttle regardless of commit time.
20110726 18:39:28< Crendgrim> ... yeah
20110726 18:39:31< timotei> oh and yeah. Google Code accepts git from now on :D
20110726 18:39:31< timotei> yay
20110726 18:39:38< timotei> http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/07/announcing-git-support-for-google-code.html
20110726 18:39:55< Gambit> hmmmm
20110726 18:40:10< Gambit> github has been pretty good to me, but… Google is google.
20110726 18:40:39< timotei> Gambit, 4gigas for free :P
20110726 18:40:50< timotei> I think we could move to git now :D
20110726 18:40:52< Crendgrim> timotei: http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=2454#c43
20110726 18:40:55< timotei> since wesnoth < 4 gb
20110726 18:41:07< Crendgrim> you're a bit back in time... :p
20110726 18:41:14< Gambit> timotei: Well github has no hard limits.
20110726 18:41:34< Gambit> You start with a limit, and once you reach it, you ask for more and they make sure you're not abusing github to host porn, and then they give it to you.
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20110726 18:42:45< timotei> Crendgrim, well, my internet was back in time :P
20110726 18:42:52< Crendgrim> ;)
20110726 18:43:06< timotei> Crendgrim, I've read the blogpost in that very day, but forgot to "announce" it
20110726 18:43:29< timotei> Gambit, ah, didn't really know. So you can "ask for more" :))
20110726 18:43:30< timotei> nice
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20110726 18:51:13< Gambit> timotei: Yeah and they're comfortable saying that because like 90% of projects will never hit the limit.
20110726 18:51:37< Gambit> For starters a lot of them are just forks of other projects.
20110726 18:51:42< Gambit> And then most projects are purely code.
20110726 18:52:02< Gambit> Only games with their big music collections will really hit it.
20110726 19:10:46< Crendgrim> and I doubt that they won't give more space to big, good games
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20110726 20:14:39< mordante> servus
20110726 20:17:11< mordante> wesbot seen Sytyi
20110726 20:17:11< wesbot> mordante: The person with the nick Sytyi 15h 41m ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
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20110726 20:33:50< mordante> hi Sytyi 
20110726 20:34:04< mordante> Sytyi, how are things going?
20110726 20:35:26< Sytyi> mordante: hi! Not bad.
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20110726 20:36:36< Sytyi> mordante: want you say anything about validator patch?
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20110726 20:36:54< mordante> good
20110726 20:37:18< Sytyi> mordante: There still are some markup errors but their number decreased greately - from 1000 to 182
20110726 20:37:24< mordante> no just wondered since you wanted to discuss some things and I expected an email
20110726 20:39:52< Sytyi> mordante: I remember. I think such way: We can let validator change config object, but this is under control of user - if you don't want to change anything - then write your validator in such a way, or write configurable validator, and initialize it properly. 
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20110726 20:41:14< mordante> Sytyi, we need to decide what we want to do for this validator
20110726 20:41:42< mordante> we really need to have a working version at the end of GSoC
20110726 20:41:50< Sytyi> mordante: Let it be configurable. 
20110726 20:42:01< Sytyi> mordante: It will be working.
20110726 20:44:19< mordante> IMO we need to decide a policy and implement that
20110726 20:44:32< mordante> if there is enough time left we can make it configurable
20110726 20:44:52< mordante> otherwise I fear we will run out of time
20110726 20:45:13< mordante> in my experience the second half of GSoC feels much shorter as the first half
20110726 20:46:44< noy> Remember Sytyi the project needs tangible results for us to say you passed
20110726 20:46:57< Sytyi> mordante: First i want to get a non-changing working validation
20110726 20:47:07< Sytyi> mordante: with a lot of warnings
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20110726 20:47:15< noy> I would consider a working system the barest of minimums
20110726 20:47:38< mordante> Sytyi, ok good, just curious what are the motivations for that choice?
20110726 20:48:22< Sytyi> mordante: We will need all "checking code" both in non-changing and changing versions
20110726 20:49:36< Sytyi> mordante: After that (full checking) I think about two things - "config changing" validation and WML files with schema inside them
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20110726 20:52:22< mordante> Sytyi, ok
20110726 20:52:46< Sytyi> mordante: There are some questions from me
20110726 20:53:27< Sytyi> mordante: Please review abstract validator patch - let "const config &" for now
20110726 20:53:41< Sytyi> mordante: And maybe I need svn access
20110726 20:56:51< Sytyi> mordante: Cause I found some possible undocumented keys in Wiki macros. I feel there will be a lot of merging conflicts, if you document them
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20110726 20:59:59< Espreon> esr: It's a made-up attribute. Then again, so is current_target.
20110726 21:01:09< esr> Espreon: Should wmllint recognize it?
20110726 21:01:36< mordante> Sytyi, do the log things really need to be in a header? The are not used at all at the moment
20110726 21:01:40< Espreon> esr: Maybe.
20110726 21:01:57< Sytyi> mordante: They are used in my validator.
20110726 21:02:17< mordante> Sytyi, in a header or in an implementation?
20110726 21:02:25< Sytyi> I supposed that log to be used by each validator.
20110726 21:02:35< Sytyi> mordante: Implementation
20110726 21:02:51< mordante> true, but the config log is also used at several places and not in a header
20110726 21:03:33< mordante> I only do it in the gui since I use several a lot, but therefore I added a special log header
20110726 21:03:55< mordante> the pure virtuals still have their default values
20110726 21:05:13< Espreon> esr: It would be better to use directives to get wmllint to shut up aboutit.
20110726 21:05:17< Espreon> *about it
20110726 21:05:38< Espreon> And I hate how my only way to have this thing connect to the Internet makes it lock up.
20110726 21:05:38< esr> Hmmm.
20110726 21:05:55< mordante> Sytyi, no other remarks about the validator
20110726 21:06:05< mordante> brb
20110726 21:07:45< Sytyi> mordante: Don't understand what to do to make correct. Can you make as you thibk will be better and commit?
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20110726 21:21:58< mordante> Sytyi, I'll do that
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20110726 21:52:25< mordante> Sytyi, I'll remove the log stuff
20110726 21:52:33< Sytyi> mordante: ok.
20110726 21:52:42< mordante> (btw it won't work since you didn't modify the build systems)
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20110726 22:01:20< CIA-57> mordante * r50454 /trunk/src/serialization/ (parser.cpp parser.hpp validator.cpp validator.hpp): 
20110726 22:01:20< CIA-57> Add initial validator structure.
20110726 22:01:20< CIA-57> Applies a slightly modified patch #2815.
20110726 22:01:28< mordante> Sytyi, ^
20110726 22:02:56< Sytyi> mordante: thanks
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20110726 22:13:57< mordante> I'm off night
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