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20110708 00:23:34< shadowmaster> No. If you do I'll travel to your city and kill you in the night.
20110708 00:24:06< shadowmaster> Forum bans are not contestable by definition, either.
20110708 00:24:37< shadowmaster> (The exception being misfired spambot bans.)
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20110708 00:31:08< Faris> I was mistaken for a bot
20110708 00:31:48< shadowmaster> Need more context.
20110708 00:35:46< Gambit> shadowmaster: Maybe he was the guy that got bunned.
20110708 00:36:32< shadowmaster> nope. This one's IP is from Africa (MA?), the spammer's was from Russia.
20110708 00:37:06< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, I was banned under regulation 4a, no?
20110708 00:37:08< Gambit> Joke fail. :(
20110708 00:37:31< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: yes, but if you continue you'll be banned under section 6.
20110708 00:37:39< Unnheulu> :/
20110708 00:37:46< Unnheulu> There is none
20110708 00:37:50< shadowmaster> I'll invent it.
20110708 00:38:01< Unnheulu> Anyway, all I'll say is I didn't complain in the post
20110708 00:38:08< shadowmaster> You did.
20110708 00:38:12< Unnheulu> Just a little paragraph noting my disappreciation
20110708 00:38:20< Unnheulu> That is not, where I come from, a complaint
20110708 00:38:30< shadowmaster> Sorry, we are not from Wales.
20110708 00:38:44< Unnheulu> Indeed
20110708 00:38:46< shadowmaster> Wesnoth.org is hosted in Connecticut, U.S.A.
20110708 00:38:50< Unnheulu> However, we are not all from Chile either
20110708 00:39:05< shadowmaster> Fortunately I don't have to deal with that because this is not a democracy. :)
20110708 00:39:15< Unnheulu> And all I'll say is that saying "I do not appreciate my posts being deleted" is not a complaint
20110708 00:39:17< shadowmaster> (in the words of Jetrel, not me)
20110708 00:39:42< Unnheulu> A complaint would be "Why was my post deleted, that is unacceptable and I am contacting my union"
20110708 00:39:58< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.ai0867.net/post8.png seemed to imply as much
20110708 00:40:27< Unnheulu> Implication is picked up on a personal level from the respondent
20110708 00:40:41< shadowmaster> Now I suggest you leave the case rest if you don't want me to take a hint from you and implement a retribution clause. :)
20110708 00:40:42< Unnheulu> It was not intentionally implied on my behalf and definitely not intended as a complaint
20110708 00:41:20< Unnheulu> Meh, I'll get back to coding my Android stuf
20110708 00:41:30< Unnheulu> *stuff
20110708 00:42:25< Unnheulu> Oh, and did you pick up what I said last night?
20110708 00:42:54< shadowmaster> The part where you admitted it was not a big deal because you don't post that much?
20110708 00:43:13< Unnheulu> Umm no
20110708 00:43:20< Unnheulu> Just before I left
20110708 00:43:26< shadowmaster> sadness, that was my favorite part
20110708 00:43:46< Unnheulu> :-)
20110708 00:43:50< Unnheulu> It's true
20110708 00:44:01< shadowmaster> so it's the "God bless" part?
20110708 00:44:04< Unnheulu> My iPod/Phone doesn't auto log in automatically
20110708 00:44:05< Unnheulu> Nope
20110708 00:44:08< Unnheulu> Before that >.>
20110708 00:44:23< Unnheulu> Don't contact me through the logs because I rarely read them - if ever
20110708 00:44:40< shadowmaster> Liar.
20110708 00:44:52< Unnheulu> Elaborate? :)
20110708 00:45:18< shadowmaster> Back in the day I'd speak shit after you leave the channel and you'd pop up for a few seconds with a temporary session to respond and leave.
20110708 00:45:24< shadowmaster> *left
20110708 00:45:32< Unnheulu> Back in the days
20110708 00:45:48< Unnheulu> And that's because I may leave in a fluster, decide to read the logs for a response and return
20110708 00:45:52< Unnheulu> I was rather like that...
20110708 00:46:52< Unnheulu> It seems though that freenode have removed there online connection thing
20110708 00:46:59< Unnheulu> Which meant I had to buy colloway -.-
20110708 00:47:09< Unnheulu> Anyways, as I said, I'm off
20110708 00:47:18< shadowmaster> webchat works for me.
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20110708 00:48:30< Unnheulu_> Meh
20110708 00:48:36< Unnheulu_> They must've just disabled it for a while then
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20110708 01:05:57< Unnheulu> Aethaeryn, if IRC is "not a chatroom", why is the word chat part of the acronym? :)
20110708 01:07:52< enchilado> I can chat to people in real life
20110708 01:09:30 * shadowmaster . O o (IRC servers host chatrooms called channels!)
20110708 01:10:08< Unnheulu> Fail :)
20110708 01:10:22< Aethaeryn> Unnheulu: IRC does not have chat "rooms", it has channels.
20110708 01:10:33< Aethaeryn> But what I really mean is that the very nature of IRC is different than a typical Internet chatroom.
20110708 01:10:43< Aethaeryn> Typically chatrooms are full of constant speaking, with almost everyone there active.
20110708 01:10:53< Aethaeryn> On IRC, however, most people don't speak, and there are often dead moments, even in very large channels.
20110708 01:11:01< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: I think you are overgeneralizing.
20110708 01:11:02< Aethaeryn> The nature of IRC is to idle.
20110708 01:11:09< shadowmaster> It depends on the network and the channel.
20110708 01:11:20< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: I'm talking mostly about the chatrooms that people are familiar with, e.g. IM chatrooms
20110708 01:11:23< Aethaeryn> Vs. Freenode.
20110708 01:11:33< Aethaeryn> I have been in channels of < 100 people more active than most Freenode channels.
20110708 01:11:38< shadowmaster> freenode is not one of the original IRC networks.
20110708 01:11:44< Aethaeryn> Games tend to do that, if much of the game politics is carried out on IRC.
20110708 01:11:45< shadowmaster> try EFnet.
20110708 01:12:20< Aethaeryn> The vast majority of IRC channels, regardless of networks, are < 10 people and not very active :-P
20110708 01:12:33< Aethaeryn> Unless the network has some kind of purge or no-new-channel policy
20110708 01:12:35< shadowmaster> 100 people speaking at the same time make a very hard to read log.
20110708 01:12:43< Aethaeryn> Oh...
20110708 01:12:44< shadowmaster> not sure if that's what you want.
20110708 01:12:52< Aethaeryn> Some games around "war" time are absolute chaos.
20110708 01:12:55< Aethaeryn> On IRC.
20110708 01:13:04< shadowmaster> (really any > 5 people conversation becomes hard to read
20110708 01:13:06< shadowmaster> )
20110708 01:13:38< enchilado> So you're having a conversation on IRC about having conversations on IRC?
20110708 01:13:42< shadowmaster> also remember that freenode is not your average IRC network.
20110708 01:13:43< enchilado> What's the point? :/
20110708 01:14:06< shadowmaster> people here are usually more er "educated" than in larger networks
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20110708 01:14:15< enchilado> Not me
20110708 01:14:22< shadowmaster> so who aren't quickly find themselves banned or K-Lined
20110708 01:14:34< shadowmaster> *those
20110708 01:14:38 * enchilado swallows nervously
20110708 01:14:50< Aethaeryn> enchilado: It's called meta-IRC.
20110708 01:14:58< Aethaeryn> It's Internet Relay Chat about Internet Relay Chat
20110708 01:15:41< Aethaeryn> enchilado: and now we're experiencing meta-meta-IRC since we are talking about meta-IRC
20110708 01:15:43< joo> Aethaeryn, you've just turned it into meta-meta-IRC, and I've turned it into meta-meta-meta...
20110708 01:15:49< joo> ehe
20110708 01:15:59< enchilado> Aethaeryn: meta-meta-meta-IRC, ooh, that sounds interesting...
20110708 01:16:05< Aethaeryn> oh shi-
20110708 01:16:10< Aethaeryn> now we're at meta-meta-meta-meta-IRC
20110708 01:16:17< joo> And so forth.
20110708 01:16:30< shadowmaster> and then Aethaeryn's brain crashed due to stack overflow.
20110708 01:16:34< Aethaeryn> Our shields can't repel meta of that magnitude
20110708 01:16:38< shadowmaster> and there was much rejoice.
20110708 01:17:10< joo> The big brain am winning again!
20110708 01:17:25< Aethaeryn> This reminds me of the time that I ran vim in emacs through M-x term at a LUG event.
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20110708 01:17:31< Aethaeryn> Someone then, in that vim, ran emacs.
20110708 01:17:41< joo> Hah!
20110708 01:17:41< Aethaeryn> And it went on until nothing free was visible in that terminal
20110708 01:18:25< enchilado> haha
20110708 01:18:40< Gambit> Yo dawg I heard you like virtualization
20110708 01:19:11< Aethaeryn> so that's an even larger recursion, essentially f(g(f(g(f(g(f(g(...))))))))
20110708 01:19:59< Aethaeryn> here we only really did meta(meta(meta(meta(meta("IRC")))))
20110708 01:20:09< Aethaeryn> Of course, every time we bring it up we effectively call meta(...) on it.
20110708 01:20:19< Aethaeryn> And that is the devious trap.
20110708 01:20:28< Unnheulu> Aethaeryn, I take it you are not familiar the ludumdares channel then? :)
20110708 01:20:43< Gambit> Thread Locked for infinite recursion.
20110708 01:21:03< Aethaeryn> Gambit: Ah, but in mentioning the recursion, you continued the recursion.
20110708 01:21:25< Gambit> You just started a meta thread. Banned.
20110708 01:21:57< Aethaeryn> Ah, but you just continued the meta. Who bans the ban man?
20110708 01:22:09< Gambit> My powers… they aren't working here!?
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20110708 01:24:27< joo> meta^n(IRC)
20110708 01:24:48< joo> Let's just skip to Lim_{n->oo} meta^n(IRC)
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20110708 01:26:00< Aethaeryn> joo: but what is the limit?
20110708 01:26:22< Gambit> The sky :D
20110708 01:26:26< joo> I'm not sure whether or not it exists
20110708 01:26:37< joo> But if it does, it is probably us all twitching face down on our keyboards
20110708 01:42:15< Tomsik> It's turtles all the way down, really
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20110708 01:47:23< Gambit> This is awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QepgKVOVfZ8
20110708 01:48:23< Gambit> I would totally go to a protest of my own movie. xD
20110708 01:48:34< Gambit> If I were awesome enough to make a movie like that…
20110708 01:51:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: http://shadowm.ai0867.net/yt-cosmicpanda.png
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20110708 01:51:49< Gambit> What is that?
20110708 01:53:22< shadowmaster> Gambit: http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2011/07/check-out-cosmic-panda-new-experimental.html
20110708 01:54:09< shadowmaster> I'm suspicious about the initial suggestions after actvating it.
20110708 01:54:30< shadowmaster> They don't match my homepage suggestions, so that would mean they are not dynamic, which would call for a case of:
20110708 01:54:39< shadowmaster> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AscendedMeme
20110708 01:57:06< Gambit> hmmm
20110708 01:57:09< Gambit> it's interesting.
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20110708 02:09:52< Gambit> Cosmic panda is flash though.
20110708 02:09:53< Gambit> Sadness.
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20110708 03:38:03< obnoxius-man> Hello Everyone.
20110708 03:38:29< enchilado> Hello.
20110708 03:39:04< obnoxius-man> Wow this sounds stupidly formal.
20110708 03:39:07< enchilado> BTW, 'obnoxious' has three Os. :S
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20110708 03:39:38< obnoxius-man> Yeah, I made that username a long time ago, adn decided to keep it.
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20110708 03:40:27< enchilado> Well, I need to go :>
20110708 03:40:28< enchilado> Bye :P
20110708 03:40:35< obnoxius-man> See ya.
20110708 03:41:49< obnoxius-man> Question for all: Have you tried my campaign, The Brotherhood of Wesnoth?
20110708 03:41:56< obnoxius-man> I need feedback
20110708 03:43:52< joo> I haven't. What is it about?
20110708 03:46:35< obnoxius-man> A guy named Edry is honoring an alliance with the Dwarves, and the say that the humans killed their king.
20110708 03:47:18< obnoxius-man> You have to fight of multiple killing forces coming from Trolls, Dwarves, Orcs, and help the elves.
20110708 03:47:30< obnoxius-man> Then find out who has been killing the kings
20110708 03:49:26< obnoxius-man> I need feedback, because I have had none. At all.
20110708 03:56:39< joo> I'll let you know if I play it.
20110708 03:58:17< obnoxius-man> Thanks
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20110708 05:54:46< shadowmaster> thanks for warning us
20110708 05:55:11< joo> loolol
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20110708 08:37:07< Aelaris> Hello.
20110708 08:38:29< Aelaris> I have a friend who doesn't want to play against me in multiplayer--she's not as good, and doesn't like losing--but she's pretty good (i.e. better than me) at campaigns.
20110708 08:38:53< Aelaris> Without trying to test them all out by myself, are any multiplayer campaigns recommended?
20110708 08:39:37< Aelaris> (Since... can't really tell much from the add-ons page, and don't know about playing them by myself.  [Which would leave me knowing more than my ally.])
20110708 08:40:29< Aelaris> Is anyone there?
20110708 08:48:18< zookeeper> there's not much multiplayer campaigns to begin with. have you tried legend of wesmere?
20110708 08:49:14< zookeeper> it's the mainline one.
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20110708 09:23:17< Aelaris> I tried the single-player one, but I'm lousy at campaigns.
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20110708 09:30:30< Aelaris> Well, that's Zookeeper.
20110708 09:30:32< Aelaris> *thanks
20110708 09:30:35< Aelaris> Bye!
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20110708 10:28:44< Ivanovic> moin
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20110708 14:12:28< Blarumyrran> !seen happygrue
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20110708 14:12:39< Blarumyrran> ,seen happygrue
20110708 14:13:01< Blarumyrran> wesbot: seen happygrue
20110708 14:13:01< wesbot> Blarumyrran: The person with the nick happygrue 10h 28m ago they were seen quitting on the channel #wesnoth-dev with the message: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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20110708 20:22:23< jpi80> Hi all, sorry for insisting, but please consider the CFP for the WAVi conference. I think this is a great opportunity.
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20110708 20:23:40< jpi80> zookeeper, what would you say?
20110708 20:40:03< zookeeper> nothing, since i don't know what CFP or WAVi are.
20110708 20:42:13< jpi80> zookeeper: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=34251&sid=b100b98d74a5487b7f0f240536cf65b9
20110708 20:44:56< zookeeper> well, i'm not a dev who gets involved in those sort of things, so there's nothing really for me to say about it
20110708 20:47:11< zookeeper> did you send a mail to the developer mailing list about it?
20110708 20:49:23< zookeeper> looks like you did
20110708 21:15:05< jpi80> zookeeper: I think so, but I do not know if it was accepted. I got the e-mail saying that the administrator will check.
20110708 21:21:21< zookeeper> no, it got through just fine
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20110708 21:37:01< jpi80> zookeeper: do you think anybody in wesnoth will submit something?
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20110708 21:42:01< zookeeper> jpi80, i don't know. to me that sounds unlikely based on the lack of responses so far, but i guess you never know. i wouldn't think people would mind if you sent one more reminder to the mailing list at some point.
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20110708 21:42:58< jpi80> zookeeper: that is a good idea I will do it soon
20110708 21:44:10< jpi80> zookeeper: thanks. I think is a nice chance to add academic visibility for wesnoth. It happened to Xpilot, Startcraft and now Bitfighter. Academics (specially AI) use the platform to test new algorithms and ideas.
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20110708 23:00:04< Sully_> Afternoon, how's it going?
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20110708 23:02:02< Jovai> Quiet in here.
20110708 23:19:56< jpi80> Jovai: very quiet...
20110708 23:20:26< Jovai> Sorry, have only dabbled in Wesnoth a little.  Thought I'd drop in and see how active the playerbase is.
20110708 23:20:55< enchilado> Fairly, they're just not on IRC.
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20110708 23:23:39< Jovai> Ah
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