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20110709 04:50:11< viethius> holy cow wesnoth got big
20110709 04:51:15< Gambit> It prefers the phrase "large boned"
20110709 04:51:17< Gambit> :(
20110709 04:51:23< Gambit> You're going to make it feel bad.
20110709 04:51:35< viethius> it used to not be so big..
20110709 04:51:56< Gambit> It's genetic!
20110709 04:52:26< viethius> lol
20110709 04:52:28< Gambit> All Wesnoth's family members got large boned when they got older.
20110709 04:52:33< viethius> must be that much better
20110709 04:53:12< viethius> awww dont call sirp far
20110709 04:53:13< viethius> fat
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20110709 05:34:26< Rhonda> Iäm not interested in Gambit's large boner.
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20110709 06:09:18< Gambit> wtf Rhonda?
20110709 06:09:26< Gambit> I mean... why not?
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20110709 06:13:36< Gambit> Fine. Be a jerk. I didn't want to talk to you anyway.
20110709 06:13:41 * Gambit pout
20110709 06:14:06< shadowmaster> What did I say about not being rude to people, Gambit?
20110709 06:14:40< Gambit> That it's for squares.
20110709 06:15:21< shadowmaster> No, I did not say that.
20110709 06:15:23< Gambit> shadowmaster: She brought my penis into this.
20110709 06:15:25< Gambit> That's…
20110709 06:15:27 * Gambit sunglasses
20110709 06:15:28< Gambit> Below the belt.
20110709 06:15:42< shadowmaster> Okay, I'm sure you can resolve it by PM.
20110709 06:16:05< Gambit> Oh. You think I'm seriously upset? Whoops.
20110709 06:16:18< Gambit> No, I don't actually think Rhonda's a jerk.
20110709 06:16:26< Gambit> Good night.
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20110709 06:33:23 * Ardonik blinks.
20110709 06:33:31< Ardonik> You forgot the YEEEAAAH!.
20110709 06:39:29< shadowmaster> He did it in my channel while I was not looking.
20110709 06:41:53< Ardonik> Oh, that's alright then.
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20110709 10:17:31< enchilado> What percentage of user-made campaigns/factions are good? 1?
20110709 10:18:30< shadowmaster> Let's put it like this, right now there's a single mainline-quality add-on the 1.8 server and that one is already in trunk.
20110709 10:21:12< enchilado> :S
20110709 10:22:21< enchilado> Though some of the not-mainline-quality ones might be good, but incorporate elements that Wesnoth is not supposed to incorporate.
20110709 10:22:40< Ardonik> shadowmaster: Which ones, I wonder?
20110709 10:25:49< enchilado> Also: trying to draw a new new version of the Royal Guard... http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8611/royalguardv1.png
20110709 10:26:44< shadowmaster> Ardonik: Dead Water
20110709 10:27:22< Ardonik> Oh, I played that.  The Merman campaign.
20110709 10:27:49< shadowmaster> It should've been obvious.
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20110709 10:28:37< Ardonik> There are other pretty elaborate campaigns out there, like the "Arabian" one for the Era of Magic.
20110709 10:28:45< Ardonik> Its art was fairly impressive.
20110709 10:29:07< shadowmaster> It's called To Lands Unknown and I know about it.
20110709 10:29:17< shadowmaster> The art is impressive but not quite mainline-quality.
20110709 10:29:50< Ardonik> It does some things with images that I haven't seen any other campaign do--simulating giant buildings and such.
20110709 10:30:05< enchilado> I think I saw its thread on the forums.
20110709 10:30:34< enchilado> Interesting idea, but I prefer the more symbolic traditional style.
20110709 10:31:57< Ardonik> The traditional style is great, too.  I just liked the creativity in that other art style.
20110709 10:32:14< enchilado> Creativity is always (well, usually) good.
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20110709 10:41:54< Ardonik> enchilado: It should look good when it's shaded.
20110709 10:42:10< Ardonik> Me, I can hardly pixel up a cube.
20110709 10:42:58< enchilado> Cubes are difficult.
20110709 10:43:12< enchilado> 3D rectangles are easy, but cubes... they're a pain.
20110709 10:43:49< enchilado> Ardonik: I don't think it's too bad, but I'm not happy with the chest at all... it doesn't look armoury, and I can't make it.
20110709 10:44:21< enchilado> The shoulder armour things look like they're stuck on over the top, but shading should improve that..
20110709 10:44:54< Ardonik> I would not have found any of those things.
20110709 10:45:06< Ardonik> Artists are the harshest of all art critics!
20110709 10:48:44< enchilado> They are. I'm the art leader for a small MMORPG project and sometimes I wonder, when I'm trying to help people improve their art contributions, what the point is.
20110709 10:49:27< enchilado> 99% of the players won't care if the saturation is too high or it's pillow-shaded or it has 5-pixel thick anti-aliasing.
20110709 10:51:39< Ardonik> But then, later on, you read people saying that Wesnoth has professional-quality graphics.
20110709 10:51:48< Ardonik> The attention to detail pays off eventually!
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20110709 10:52:53< enchilado> If only the same could be said of TMW :(
20110709 10:56:22< enchilado> Oh well, I need to go, I suppose.
20110709 10:56:30< enchilado> 'night all. :)
20110709 10:56:31< Ardonik> Adieu!
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20110709 13:35:55< Rhonda> Gambit: Well, if you come back half an hour later and expect me to still be around …
20110709 13:36:47 * Cookiee hugs Rhonda and clings onto her/his left leg
20110709 13:36:47< Gambit> Oh, totally.
20110709 13:39:04< Rhonda> Gambit: Then you are the jerk, not me :)
20110709 13:39:15< Rhonda> .. especially when I have to get up at that ungodly time
20110709 13:39:44< Cookiee> 5am?
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20110709 13:40:30< Rhonda> yep
20110709 13:40:45< Cookiee> hahah. sounds fun... >.> 
20110709 13:40:50< Cookiee> and cold. 
20110709 13:41:35< Rhonda> Cookiee, northern hemisphere is summer. It's only cold down under.
20110709 13:42:11< Cookiee> :(
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20110709 13:55:37< Necrosporus>  If an army of cyborgs and tanks from Warzone 2100 will engage into combat with an army of skeletons, ghosts and zombies from Battle for Wesnoth, which side would have better chances to win?
20110709 13:56:10< Gambit> Totally the Wesnoth undead.
20110709 13:56:33< Necrosporus> Why?
20110709 13:56:41< Gambit> Because this is #wesnoth
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20110709 14:07:07< Tomsik> Tanks deal impact damage as they drive through skeletons.
20110709 14:07:15< Tomsik> It's like no fight at all
20110709 14:07:34< joo> Maybe if we had adepts
20110709 14:09:38< Tomsik> I don't think they can do well against bayonets
20110709 14:09:56< Tomsik> And flamethrowers
20110709 14:45:49< Cookiee> Tomsik: why ask a stupid question?
20110709 14:45:56 * Cookiee facepalms and leaves
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20110709 14:57:25< Tomsik> Cookiee: ask yourself.
20110709 14:57:33< Cookiee> how*
20110709 14:57:54< Cookiee> whoops, and no thanks. I dont like acting like a paranoid idiot. :L
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20110709 15:23:02< Tomsik> It's not being a paranoid idiot, it's being a zen-flopping-master!
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20110709 15:48:37< Cookiee> Tomsik: Did I insult you?
20110709 15:49:20< Cookiee> Apparently I crossed the line and was 'rude' to you. Could you tell me if this is right or not with no outside influences please? Thanks 
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20110709 15:54:08< Tomsik> No, you said something that was not in any way understandable
20110709 15:54:31< Tomsik> There's at least one word missing in your message there
20110709 15:55:00< Cookiee> Gambit: ^ there. 
20110709 15:55:17< Cookiee> thank you Tomsik you have helped slightly.
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20110709 15:56:09< Tomsik> Heh, I still have no idea what is going on here
20110709 15:57:51< Cookiee> Not much. Just bias opinions and much annoyance. 
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20110709 16:00:33< Cookiee> so Tomsik, I was not rude? Just to get this clear?
20110709 16:00:44< Cookiee> Apparently he doesnt get the message.
20110709 16:01:10< Gambit> My lord just stop already.
20110709 16:01:19< Tomsik> Well, I certainly did not ask a question, even more a stupid one
20110709 16:01:19< Cookiee> SO you get it?
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20110709 16:46:01< Cookiee> thats not going to help. 
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20110709 17:14:15< matthewt> kind of annoying you can't see all the higher-level units in the help file, but you can find them very easily on the website
20110709 17:16:40< Crendgrim> matthewt: use the :discover command
20110709 17:17:47< Crendgrim> (start a game, press : and then type "discover")
20110709 17:18:05< Crendgrim> that'll reveal all units in the ingame help
20110709 17:18:28< matthewt> ah cool. thanks
20110709 17:19:56< Crendgrim> you're welcome
20110709 17:20:27< VurtualRuler98> you could try "unlocking" them through arduous play and then have a sense of superiority
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20110709 17:27:44< Gambit> I still don't understand the pokedex feature.
20110709 17:28:23< VurtualRuler98> Wesnoth, despite being a mature and well-developed game, is severely lacking in the "progression" category.
20110709 17:28:35< VurtualRuler98> it has independent, dump-of-lists campaigns, and then the... pokedex feature.
20110709 17:30:49< joo> lol @ pokedex
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20110709 17:31:26< Tomsik> pokedex, exactly
20110709 17:32:59< VurtualRuler98> would you like to give a name to captured swordsman?
20110709 17:33:32< zookeeper> it's strange that no one has done a pokenoth add-on yet.
20110709 17:34:22< VurtualRuler98> wait wait awit
20110709 17:34:33< VurtualRuler98> didn't we just have this thing where if you did anything involving a copyrighted work, someone yelled at you in seconds?
20110709 17:34:54< zookeeper> yes, but it hasn't prevented people from trying.
20110709 17:34:58< Gambit> Wesmon
20110709 17:35:01< VurtualRuler98> that's awfully defeatist
20110709 17:35:11< Gambit> The problem is art.
20110709 17:35:26< VurtualRuler98> yeah making an art is hard
20110709 17:35:47< matthewt> what if you only play the mod with your friends
20110709 17:36:10< zookeeper> what art would pokenoth need? you'd go around a big random map searching for units and capture them. no art needed.
20110709 17:36:20< Gambit> Maybe neorice would let us use: http://neoriceisgood.deviantart.com/gallery/2083531#/d120fcw
20110709 17:36:22< VurtualRuler98> ohhh as a "the name is fair use" type thing
20110709 17:36:27< zookeeper> halberdier, i choose you!
20110709 17:36:29< VurtualRuler98> and then you just have wesnoth units
20110709 17:36:47< Gambit> zookeeper: The fun of pokemon is collecting all the funny looking monsters
20110709 17:37:18< VurtualRuler98> give each unit more dynamic stats and then some customization and you'd be set, really
20110709 17:37:21< zookeeper> wesnoth units aren't funny-looking enough?
20110709 17:37:43< Gambit> Eh
20110709 17:37:51< VurtualRuler98> they'd need to have improbably colored bodies and patterns
20110709 17:38:08< VurtualRuler98> or be in really low, miildly distorted resolution.
20110709 17:38:53< zookeeper> you could collaborate with markm; you could be playing a tourist who has arrived to wesnoth to collect units.
20110709 17:39:36< matthewt> i'd like to make a Suikoden add-on
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20110709 22:56:50< enchilado> shadowmaster: the xkcd comic on your blog is lacking mouseover text.
20110709 22:57:19< shadowmaster> intentional
20110709 22:58:39< enchilado> :O
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