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20110713 01:39:02< Faris> fo wat
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20110713 03:03:48< oldtopmanserver> someone to help me
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20110713 03:55:59< SupermanCyclops> shadowmaster: I am here
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20110713 06:06:02< shadowmaster> SupermanCyclops: yes, hello
20110713 06:06:29< SupermanCyclops> you wanted to know what my avatar is from
20110713 06:06:40< shadowmaster> I did?
20110713 06:06:54< SupermanCyclops> yeah
20110713 06:07:40< shadowmaster> do tell, then
20110713 06:07:54< SupermanCyclops> it's a character named Otenko
20110713 06:08:03< SupermanCyclops> from a GBA game called The Sun is in Your hands
20110713 06:09:07< SupermanCyclops> that is all
20110713 06:09:15< shadowmaster> ok
20110713 06:10:09< SupermanCyclops> why did you want to know?
20110713 06:10:42< shadowmaster> I don't remember
20110713 06:12:02< SupermanCyclops> -_-
20110713 06:12:33< SupermanCyclops> anyways gonna sleep now
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20110713 07:18:37< scot> hey sorry....I run ubuntu and I remember one of the graphics programs that wesnoth uses is broken for wesnoth, but i can't remember which one that is...Wesnoth works in full screen, but when windowed the mouse doesn't clickthrough to the wesnoth application....do any of you know which app it is...I just need to downgrade it to the stable version, I just need to remember which one...thanks
20110713 07:20:01< scot> Let me try that again
20110713 07:20:10< scot> hey sorry....I run ubuntu and I remember one of the graphics programs that wesnoth uses is broken for wesnoth, but i can't remember which one that is
20110713 07:20:21< scot> Wesnoth works in full screen, but when windowed the mouse doesn't clickthrough to the wesnoth application....do any of you know which app it is...I just need to downgrade it to the stable version, I just need to remember which one...thanks
20110713 07:24:10< shadowmaster> the SDL library; however, current Debian and Ubuntu versions have a patched version that doesn't exhibit that bug
20110713 07:24:36< scot> really? I wonder if I have the fixed version then
20110713 07:24:56< scot> I haven't run the game in a while because of this problem, but I feel like playing
20110713 07:25:09< scot> and I multiscreen so fullscreening the game is not an option
20110713 07:27:11< scot> Wow, it works
20110713 07:27:28< scot> Geez, I never guessed ubuntu would fix it
20110713 07:27:54< shadowmaster> I don't think the bug ever made it to an Ubuntu release, actually.
20110713 07:28:03< scot> It most certainly did
20110713 07:28:16< scot> I have had to fix it before
20110713 07:28:41< scot> I just couldn't remember which package it was that needed to be downgraded back to stable version
20110713 07:29:56< scot> thanks very much though, I wouldn't have bothered checking it in default....
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20110713 08:25:38< Soliton> oldtopmanserver: compile wesnothd with libana disabled.
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20110713 10:22:27< Ivanovic> moin
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20110713 10:42:22< enchilado> moin
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20110713 12:33:43< enchilado> Mildly amusing spambot: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=33626&start=30
20110713 12:34:34< enchilado> Actually, okay, that's quite an amusing spambot, as spambots go.
20110713 12:35:01< enchilado> It should be left undeleted.
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20110713 12:41:44< joo> What spambot, enchilado?
20110713 12:42:01< joo> On that page, I can only see posts that appear to be made by humans.
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20110713 12:43:50< zookeeper> joo, probably got deleted already.
20110713 12:44:04< enchilado> yeah, it did
20110713 12:44:05< enchilado> :(
20110713 12:44:19< enchilado> It was funny because of the thread it's in.
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20110713 12:44:46< enchilado> http://ustre.am/emyj
20110713 12:44:54< enchilado> (DUHH drawing live)
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20110713 17:57:37< oldtopmanserver> Soliton: How do I do that?
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20110713 19:02:24< Soliton> oldtopmanserver: depends on the build system you use. it's documented either way.
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20110713 19:17:16< dta> Sup.
20110713 19:17:35< Betacrow> Yo
20110713 19:17:54< dta> Any mods home?
20110713 19:18:35< Soliton> if you have a question just ask.
20110713 19:18:53< dta> Well, I don't want to ask if no one responds. That'd be awkward, now wouldn't it?
20110713 19:19:03< Soliton> no.
20110713 19:19:22< dta> Anyways, question is. I got banned like a year ago, and I was wondering if Noy was over being butthurt, so I could be unbanned.
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20110713 19:22:06 * dta Awkward silence. Thanks Soliton_m
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20110713 19:28:17< Ivanovic> dta: calling a moderator "butthurt" does not help your case in any way
20110713 19:28:42< dta> Ivanovic, I'm stating that a specific mod is "butthurt" not every mod. I don't care what mod unbans me.
20110713 19:29:24< Soliton> you also don't care about getting unbanned so there isn't anything to respond really.
20110713 19:30:03< dta> Thanks for judging me Soliton. But actually I like this game. I missed multilayer very much. So I'd like unbanned. I'm just being honest.
20110713 19:30:22< dta> I can understand if that isn't welcome here. Sorry I'm not used to the politics surrounding Noy in here. But I promise I can adapt.
20110713 19:30:46< Soliton> you couldn't before it's unlikely you can in the future.
20110713 19:30:59< Ivanovic> dta: it is a matter of politeness not to call someone "butthurt"
20110713 19:31:01< dta> Again with your judging.
20110713 19:31:28< Soliton> you're welcome.
20110713 19:31:29< dta> Ivanovic, That's very true. Even if Noy has wronged me, I should take the high road and be polite to him.
20110713 19:33:04< dta> My formal apologizes for calling you "butthurt" noy.
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20110713 22:57:53< oldtopmanserver> Someone can be banned o-o
20110713 22:58:04< oldtopmanserver> From wesnoth in general, or the forums?
20110713 23:01:59< Gambit> Both.
20110713 23:02:01< Gambit> Either.
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20110713 23:08:31< oldtopmanserver> How do you get banned from wesnoth in general?
20110713 23:09:06< dta> I'll let noy field this one.
20110713 23:10:18 * oldtopmanserver pokes this "noy" character
20110713 23:10:25 * dta hits the deck
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20110713 23:12:33< zookeeper> oldtopmanserver, by being a particularly obnoxious troublemaker... repeatedly.
20110713 23:13:32< dta> zookeeper, are you speaking generally?
20110713 23:13:57< zookeeper> yes
20110713 23:14:14< dta> Speaking on my case without understanding the circumstances then?
20110713 23:14:17< oldtopmanserver> zookeeper: Well, I didn't think you could deactivate someone's FOSS game.
20110713 23:15:01< dta> oldtopmanserver, The server is privately owned.
20110713 23:15:05< zookeeper> oldtopmanserver, banned == banned from the MP server, forums, wiki, add-on server. but i doubt anyone's ever been banned from all of those.
20110713 23:15:18< zookeeper> mostly people get banned from the MP server.
20110713 23:15:28< oldtopmanserver> oic
20110713 23:15:34< oldtopmanserver> makes more sense now
20110713 23:15:35< enchilado> Even the add-on server? Harsh D:
20110713 23:15:45< oldtopmanserver> DDOS = ban I suppose
20110713 23:15:57< oldtopmanserver> What did he do?
20110713 23:16:09 * oldtopmanserver enjoys watching trolls get banned
20110713 23:16:10 * dta Is sitting right here.
20110713 23:16:12< zookeeper> err, DDOS != ban
20110713 23:16:14< enchilado> but... you don't need to log in for the add-on or MP server
20110713 23:16:21< dta> DDOS = legal action.
20110713 23:16:30< oldtopmanserver> ban an IP IIRC
20110713 23:16:57< enchilado> So you ban their family as well? :\
20110713 23:16:59< zookeeper> enchilado, they'll get banned by IP
20110713 23:17:01< zookeeper> yes
20110713 23:17:12< enchilado> I had better tell my brothers not to do anything stupid then
20110713 23:17:31< dta> zookeeper, They banned a large range of IPs for me. So, even neighbors were banned.
20110713 23:17:45< zookeeper> i'm not sure if it's possible to ban an IP range but still allow a specific registered user from that range to login.
20110713 23:17:48< enchilado> Ban their ISP
20110713 23:18:10< dta> zookeeper, It's possible. You just make an exception in the rule list.
20110713 23:18:19 * oldtopmanserver tells his neighbors not to be assholes
20110713 23:18:49< enchilado> I only know one person near me who plays, but I will make sure to tell him :O
20110713 23:18:58 * enchilado doesn't want to get banned by an idiotic neighbour
20110713 23:19:10< dta> oldtopmanserver, you were wondering why I was banned? Who were you asking, the answers vary dramatically.
20110713 23:19:32< oldtopmanserver> dta: The answer varies from banee, to banned, and banner
20110713 23:19:42< oldtopmanserver> But sure, what did you do?
20110713 23:19:51< oldtopmanserver> (PM me if it will cause issues here)
20110713 23:19:57< zookeeper> it's unfortunate that neighbours can basically get you banned (at least until you ask the mods to resolve it somehow), but there's little choice if someone keeps logging in with changing IP's and spams the MP lobby with obscenities, for example.
20110713 23:20:02< dta> oldtopmanserver, it boils down to making someone in power angry.
20110713 23:20:32< dta> zookeeper, my case was quite mild and was contained to mostly 1-1 conversations.
20110713 23:20:42< dta> Which ended in a permanent ban.
20110713 23:21:37< oldtopmanserver> I presume there are no logs of the event.
20110713 23:21:48< dta> Yea, there were logs. But I dunno if they kept them.
20110713 23:22:00< oldtopmanserver> classic, ofc
20110713 23:22:10< dta> This was like a year ago.
20110713 23:23:44< dta> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=31342&p=452027&hilit=dta#p452027
20110713 23:23:54< dta> shadowm nicely locked the thread for me.
20110713 23:24:15< oldtopmanserver> XD
20110713 23:24:21< oldtopmanserver> mod name is a spoiler
20110713 23:24:27< dta> Yea, I was having some fun.
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20110713 23:25:07< oldtopmanserver> dta: All the link says is that you were banend
20110713 23:25:31< dta> Yea, I don't have many traces of what happened. But this is the only fossil record I can find.
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