--- Log opened Tue Aug 02 00:00:36 2011 20110802 00:16:19-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@emerch3.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 00:29:07-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 00:31:34-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 00:32:11-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@2E6B5DA6.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110802 00:32:31-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@2E6B5DA6.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 00:33:54-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20110802 00:36:47-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.82.163] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 00:36:47-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.82.163] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 00:36:47-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 00:43:59-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 00:58:22-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@2E6B5DA6.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 01:03:58-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 01:12:52-!- happygrue [~quassel@rrcs-50-75-61-76.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 01:12:52-!- happygrue [~quassel@rrcs-50-75-61-76.nys.biz.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 01:12:52-!- happygrue [~quassel@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 01:17:35< CIA-57> wintermute * r50539 /trunk/ (14 files in 3 dirs): 20110802 01:17:35< CIA-57> Updated Khalifate faction to include all current balance changes (many changes). 20110802 01:17:35< CIA-57> Removed khalifatelightfoot movetype (converted units to khalifatefoot movetype). 20110802 01:17:35< CIA-57> Updated changelog and players changelog. 20110802 01:19:14< happygrue> Ivanovic: ^ that is all of the current khalifate stuff (finally). I imagine that my changelog formatting might not be ideal, but given my limited net access I just wanted to get it up there. 20110802 01:19:40< shadowmaster> would be so much easier if the add-on in question was in wesnoth-umc-dev 20110802 01:19:43< happygrue> now I'd imagine not a lot of huge changes, and things to be much more in line with regular balancing (small tweaks) 20110802 01:21:13< happygrue> shadowmaster: I don't have a problem with that, is it worth putting it in now? 20110802 01:21:38< happygrue> I would imagine the addon being less and less useful as time goes on 20110802 01:21:45< happygrue> it was really just to get the basics fleshed out 20110802 01:23:33< shadowmaster> happygrue: it depends on whether you will exploit wesnoth-umc-dev for all its worth, in my opinion 20110802 01:23:58< shadowmaster> the thing is that if you used it to commit every tiny change you make to the faction's balance it'd be easier to generate diffs to apply on mainline trunk 20110802 01:24:31< shadowmaster> also if you committed every individual change you'd not have to be worried about internet connectivity because you could have someone else in charge of syncing with mainline 20110802 01:25:32< happygrue> I won't be doing any other balancing until I'm back witha real connection in a few weeks. 20110802 01:26:00< happygrue> in hindsight it would have been better to have the addon in umc-dev, but at this point I'm thinking it's probably not worth it 20110802 01:26:11< happygrue> I really don't know how much longer the addon will be useful anyway 20110802 01:26:43< happygrue> I plan to update things in tandom from now on anyway and there will be nothing like the past volume of changes 20110802 01:27:10< happygrue> likely just a few each release, though I could be wrong 20110802 01:27:17< happygrue> (development release that is) 20110802 01:27:59< happygrue> anyway, I've got to run. 20110802 01:28:16< happygrue> I'll check back when I can 20110802 01:28:20-!- happygrue [~quassel@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 01:30:44-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20110802 01:47:41-!- haudegen [~quassel@chello084114021195.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 01:48:39-!- haudegen [~quassel@chello084114021195.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 01:49:33-!- Upth [~ogmar@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 01:49:33-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20110802 02:00:49< CIA-57> shadowmaster * r50540 /trunk/changelog: Expanded tabs in changelog, reduced spacing 20110802 02:01:11< CIA-57> shadowmaster * r50541 /trunk/data/ (46 files in 13 dirs): Ran wmlindent in mainline except for data/gui 20110802 02:04:41-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110802 02:18:28-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 02:20:40< [Relic]> Hello :) 20110802 02:38:19< CIA-57> shadowmaster * r50542 /trunk/ (changelog data/tools/wmllint): 20110802 02:38:19< CIA-57> Teach wmllint to fix deprecated implicit side=1 in [store_gold] actions 20110802 02:38:19< CIA-57> This uses esr's rule from r50119 rather than patch #2666's. 20110802 02:38:39< CIA-57> shadowmaster * r50543 /trunk/ (7 files in 7 dirs): 20110802 02:38:39< CIA-57> wmllint: Handle deprecated implicit side=1 in more actions; run the new code in mainline 20110802 02:38:39< CIA-57> Shame on you, esr. 20110802 02:38:39< CIA-57> This commit handles [remove/place_shroud], [gold] and [modify_side/ai] 20110802 02:38:39< CIA-57> using modified code derived from patch #2666 20110802 02:46:48-!- enchilado [~enchilado@ppp118-208-136-212.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: brb] 20110802 02:47:15-!- enchilado [~enchilado@ppp118-208-136-212.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 02:50:22-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@61.94.173.162] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 03:22:15-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 03:22:35-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 03:22:35-!- esr [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/esr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 03:44:36-!- Johannes13_ [~Johannes@91.7.240.170] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 03:44:42-!- Johannes13_ [~Johannes@91.7.240.170] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 03:44:42-!- Johannes13_ [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 03:47:45-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110802 03:51:15-!- Johannes13_ [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20110802 04:10:20-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2fafe.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 04:12:24-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20110802 04:14:16-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20110802 05:02:05-!- Upth [~ogmar@c-76-105-37-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 05:02:05-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20110802 05:18:16-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: GPU hung] 20110802 05:19:52-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 05:25:56-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 05:26:29-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 222 bugs, 323 feature requests, 24 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20110802 05:37:47-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110802 05:42:20-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 05:52:57-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: GPU hung *again*] 20110802 05:54:00-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 06:12:34-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@61.94.173.162] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 06:16:39-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@61.94.173.162] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 06:48:12-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@emerch3.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 07:26:53-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 07:55:38< CIA-57> shadowmaster * r50544 /trunk/changelog: Update changelog 20110802 07:55:52< CIA-57> shadowmaster * r50545 /trunk/players_changelog: Expanded tabs in players_changelog, reduced spacing 20110802 08:11:02-!- timotei [~Timo@193.34.190.70] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:11:02-!- timotei [~Timo@193.34.190.70] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 08:11:02-!- timotei [~Timo@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:17:06-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: ...] 20110802 08:20:07-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:30:37-!- atomicbomb_ [~quassel@125.160.85.183] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:30:50-!- EdB [~edb@89.82.194.231] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:32:54-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@61.94.173.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20110802 08:33:37-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:36:14-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@emerch3.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:42:32-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: reattaching] 20110802 08:43:34-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:45:24-!- thonsew [~thonsew__@gateway/tor-sasl/thonsew] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:45:34< boucman> hey thonsew 20110802 08:45:53< thonsew> hello back. I have a question about patch formatting 20110802 08:45:59< boucman> sure 20110802 08:46:36-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110802 08:47:08< thonsew> I generated my original patches with git diff since it seemed closest to the instructions on the SVN-GIT wiki page. Should I have used git format-patch? 20110802 08:47:57< boucman> it doesn't really matter, git format-patch is usefull whenusing git since it keeps your name in the commit log, but we can't do that with svn anyway, 20110802 08:48:08< boucman> and both are the same for me to apply 20110802 08:48:39< thonsew> What problems did you have with my unit_map patch? Thanks for working on all of my patches so quickly. 20110802 08:49:00< shadowmaster> why do we have so many open patches, anyway? 20110802 08:49:36< boucman> no 'problem' really, it's just that it doesn't apply cleanly anymore (trunk has changed) so simply regenerating it would save me lots of time 20110802 08:50:03< boucman> shadowmaster: I didn't bug people to deal with them for a long time and so they tend to accumulate... 20110802 08:50:23< boucman> crab and mordante are the main culprits, i'll try to bug them some more 20110802 08:50:33< shadowmaster> :) 20110802 08:51:25< thonsew> I ran git svn rebase, applied my original patch, compiled using scons -c[lean] and regenerated the patch. It was bitwise identical. So I imagine you will have the same problem and I did something wrong. 20110802 08:51:47< boucman> hmm 20110802 08:51:57< boucman> ok, i'll look into it and ping you after that 20110802 08:52:26< thonsew> Thanks 20110802 08:53:18< shadowmaster> where's the patch, out of curiosity? 20110802 08:54:04< thonsew> https://gna.org/patch/?2819 Updates the unit map to use unordered_map 20110802 08:56:00< shadowmaster> boucman: it applies without warnings or errors for me on r50545; are you sure you are using -p1 and not -p0? 20110802 08:56:22< boucman> yes, and my svn is clean... weird 20110802 08:56:25< shadowmaster> (haven't tried compiling yet though) 20110802 08:56:27-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@81.198.95.166] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 08:58:16< boucman> ok, applied it, compiling now 20110802 08:59:07< shadowmaster> thonsew: I wasn't aware that it was already in the tracker, so now I'm looking at it and I noticed one arguably unimportant thing: 20110802 08:59:10< shadowmaster> - size_t count(const map_location& loc) const { return lmap_.count(loc); } 20110802 08:59:14< shadowmaster> + size_t count(const map_location& loc) const { return (size_t) lmap_.count(loc); } 20110802 09:00:09< thonsew> I can change that to a static_cast. No problem. I wait and see if there are any further problems. 20110802 09:00:20< shadowmaster> ... yeah, I was about to explain that :p 20110802 09:01:19-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@180.246.154.110] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 09:02:21< shadowmaster> also I think I saw a bitwise operation somewhere there; those tend to give me headaches because I've never understood them besides their tendency to create bugs in platforms with different endianess (i.e. PPC is a supported big-endian target for Wesnoth). So... just reminding people that big-endian exists. :) 20110802 09:02:35-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20110802 09:02:50< boucman> src/unit_map.cpp: In member function ‘unit* unit_map::extract(const map_location&)’: 20110802 09:02:50< boucman> src/unit_map.cpp:179:8: error: ‘class unit_map::lmap’ has no member named ‘quick_erase’ 20110802 09:02:57< boucman> this is getting really weird 20110802 09:03:20-!- atomicbomb_ [~quassel@125.160.85.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110802 09:03:37-!- EdB [~edb@89.82.194.231] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 09:04:56< thonsew> What version of boost:: are you compiling with? What platform are you compiling with? I compiled on fedora with boost 1.44. unordered_map wasn't introduced until 1.36 20110802 09:05:12< boucman> well, it's not here http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_38_0/doc/html/boost/unordered_map.html 20110802 09:05:20< boucman> which is documenting 1.38 20110802 09:05:28< boucman> I'll check what I have installed 20110802 09:06:01< boucman> Version: 1.42.0.1ubuntu1 20110802 09:06:46< thonsew> quick_erase can be changed to erase which is just 'slower' since it looks for the next iterator and may have to scan all the containers. 20110802 09:07:36< boucman> thonsew: boost 1.43 changelog 20110802 09:07:39< boucman> Boost 1.43.0 Ticket 3966: erase_return_void is now quick_erase, which is the current forerunner for resolving the slow erase by iterator, although there's a strong possibility that this may change in the future. The old method name remains for backwards compatibility but is considered deprecated and will be removed in a future release. 20110802 09:08:16< boucman> ok, i'll change that to erase_return_void, then, and if it disapears someday we'll fix what doesn't compile 20110802 09:08:59< thonsew> Thanks. Have you also changed the (size_t) to a static_cast( 20110802 09:09:38< boucman> no yet 20110802 09:10:21< thonsew> I'll be happy when compiles on a machine not my own. How many developers around here compile and test on multiple OSs? 20110802 09:14:15< thonsew> shadowmaster, I've check the bitwise operation. It is the leftshift and XOR used to produce the hash_value of the map_location. It will work regardless of endianess. It does limit the size of the maps to 2^16 * 2^16 before weird stuff happens slowing down the unordered_maps. 20110802 09:23:06< boucman> ok, it compiled, testing now... 20110802 09:29:17< boucman> ok, all is good, comitting now 20110802 09:29:39< thonsew> Thanks. 20110802 09:29:43< boucman> thonsew: out of curiosity how many patches did you submit/got comitted ? 20110802 09:31:38< thonsew> I think that I did 4 C++ patches this week, 1 C++ graphics patch(which was rejected since it would eventually be fixed up stream) and several ~8 WML scenario fixes. 20110802 09:31:48< CIA-57> boucman * r50546 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): apply patch #2819 : Change unit_map to a faster implementation by thonsew 20110802 09:32:17-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-113-23.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 09:32:17-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-113-23.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 09:32:17-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 09:32:32< boucman> hmm 20110802 09:32:37< boucman> you're pretty active 20110802 09:33:53< thonsew> I'm fiddling with stuff now. I started trying to speed up the route finding. My current personal version is about 4 times faster (wall clock time) than the default version. So I decided to start submitting patches. 20110802 09:34:20< boucman> hmm 20110802 09:34:24< boucman> what else did you change ? 20110802 09:38:07< thonsew> 1. I used unordered_map and sets to cache a bunch of stuff, visibility, terrains, etc. 2. I created an interned token for the config and variable stuff to avoid lengthy string comparisons (still buggy) 3. I rewrote the interpolation parser, comma parser, and variable parser to use a lru cache (based on the unordered_map), 4. I re factored the cost_calculators to break them into individual calcs (fast, stable uggly) 5. I added a per unit 20110802 09:38:07< thonsew> type reachability calc to the pathfinding (v fast for the move_to_targets phase) 6. assorted stuff that I can't remember right now 20110802 09:39:24< boucman> sounds good, 20110802 09:39:25< thonsew> I almost forget my route finder only calculates differences when units move. 20110802 09:39:54< boucman> would you be interested in getting SVN write access ? 20110802 09:40:16< thonsew> What responsibilities go with SVN write access? 20110802 09:40:38< boucman> not screwing stuff too much :P 20110802 09:41:14< thonsew> I see. 20110802 09:41:30< boucman> technically I think you are a mod on the forums, but most devs don't use that priv and let the dedicated moderators do it, they do a better job 20110802 09:41:44< boucman> you have access to the mod forum, that's for sure 20110802 09:42:16< shadowmaster> whether the dedicated moderators do a better job is something I wonder every night, but sure! 20110802 09:42:31< boucman> :P 20110802 09:42:55< thonsew> How do you manage stepping on toes? It looks like no cares about pathfinding as long as it works. But fiddling with config, variable and the parser might tick people off? 20110802 09:43:28< boucman> thonsew: usually we each have our areas, but it's more or less informal, 20110802 09:44:02-!- Nephro [~Dmitry@81.198.95.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20110802 09:44:06< boucman> you have to be carefull not to break WML and some areas (like config and the parser) have a bad reputation in that area 20110802 09:44:13< boucman> so people are a bit nervous... 20110802 09:44:40< boucman> I don't know if we have someone that is working on the parser or the vars right now... 20110802 09:44:44-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2fafe.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 09:44:44-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 09:45:03< fabi> boucman: I think that was silene's region of code. 20110802 09:45:04< Ivanovic> moin 20110802 09:45:32< boucman> fabi: yes, but silene is not active anymore, is he ? 20110802 09:45:39< thonsew> My 2 cents. All of the parsers are hand coded state machines, which look to me to be fragile, explaining previous problems. I don't know how to fix that. 20110802 09:45:47< fabi> boucman: No, he left in rage. 20110802 09:46:15-!- timotei [~Timo@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20110802 09:46:31< boucman> thonsew: wesnoth is starting to have a long history and sometime it shows... 20110802 09:46:58< boucman> thonsew: you need to apply to the wesnoth project on gna to be a dev, I just told Ivanovic so he'll accept you 20110802 09:47:27< thonsew> pre approval. Gotta love that. 20110802 09:47:31< thonsew> Thanks. 20110802 09:48:12< boucman> thonsew: more like warning the admin to accelerate the process :P 20110802 09:48:34< shadowmaster> thonsew: do you have a forum account? 20110802 09:49:08< shadowmaster> also, I can't seem to find you in the game credits (data/core/about.cfg) 20110802 09:49:43< thonsew> I've seen thonsew somewhere below the fold from my previous commits. 20110802 09:50:52< boucman> I don't see you in the about.cfg 20110802 09:51:02< boucman> well, that will be your first commit I guess :P 20110802 09:51:04< boucman> shame on me 20110802 09:54:53< thonsew> You are right I don't see it now. I thought at one time it was under miscellaneous, but it appears I never submitted that file with any of my patches. 20110802 10:05:30-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20110802 10:07:08-!- hhyloc [~hhyloc@113.166.144.100] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 10:14:03< Ivanovic> thonsew: you're in 20110802 10:15:02< boucman> congratulation 20110802 10:15:20< thonsew> Thanks. How would you recommend I setup and do a test commit? 20110802 10:16:03< boucman> hmm, I'm not that good at git-svn... 20110802 10:16:53< thonsew> No worries. I'll pick a new bug and sort it out. Thanks again. 20110802 10:17:34< Ivanovic> thonsew: one of our GCI tasks was to create a git-svn howto 20110802 10:17:40< Ivanovic> thonsew: it is available in the wiki! 20110802 10:17:48< Ivanovic> stuff like commit access is explained there, too 20110802 10:18:17< thonsew> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GIT-SVN I assume? 20110802 10:18:30-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 10:18:58< Ivanovic> jepp 20110802 10:19:33< boucman> Ivanovic: I have been looking for something like that at work, thx for pointing it to me :P 20110802 10:19:36< shadowmaster> if you already have a git repository using git-svn you just need to edit a svn-remote section in the local config (.git/config) to reflect the changed repository URL 20110802 10:19:59< shadowmaster> but yeah, it does explain that in there 20110802 10:20:45< thonsew> First I have to generate and register my ssh key. 20110802 10:20:54-!- MeccaGod [~majs@host189-199.bornet.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 10:22:35-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-27-179.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 10:25:34< CIA-57> boucman * r50547 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): apply patch #2857 : Implemented sub= and divide= for weapon special codeblocks by Espreon 20110802 10:25:45-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-27-179.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20110802 10:27:55< boucman> ok, afk for now... 20110802 10:28:15< thonsew> bye 20110802 10:31:51< CIA-57> espreon * r50548 /trunk/changelog: Updated the changelog. 20110802 10:36:28-!- hhyloc [~hhyloc@113.166.144.100] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 20110802 10:39:41-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@emerch3.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20110802 11:03:06-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 11:03:36-!- alkenrinnstet [~alkenrinn@bb119-74-221-179.singnet.com.sg] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 11:04:06-!- alkenrinnstet [~alkenrinn@bb119-74-221-179.singnet.com.sg] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20110802 11:05:00-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-254-233-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 11:21:22-!- fabi [~fabi@88-134-20-121-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 11:21:38-!- thonsew [~thonsew__@gateway/tor-sasl/thonsew] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20110802 11:26:29-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 222 bugs, 323 feature requests, 22 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20110802 11:31:26-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB9E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 11:34:55-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-20-121-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 11:55:11< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50549 /trunk/src/ (actions.cpp whiteboard/manager.hpp): Eliminated a function. 20110802 12:01:30-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@c-76-105-37-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110802 12:05:31-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110802 12:05:57-!- Upth [~ogmar@c-76-105-37-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:05:57-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20110802 12:06:15-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110802 12:07:08-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:08:06-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.234.208] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:08:06-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.234.208] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 12:08:06-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:08:58-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@180.246.154.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 12:11:45< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50550 /trunk/src/ (arrow.cpp arrow.hpp): Added hide() to class arrow. (whiteboard) 20110802 12:12:12< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50551 /trunk/src/arrow.hpp: 20110802 12:12:12< CIA-57> Made arrow noncopyable because it's an RAII object now. 20110802 12:12:12< CIA-57> Constructor adds it to the screen, destructor removes it. 20110802 12:12:40< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50552 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (13 files): Added wb::action::hide(). 20110802 12:13:12< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50553 /trunk/src/whiteboard/attack.hpp: Changed indentation. 20110802 12:13:40< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50554 /trunk/src/whiteboard/manager.cpp: Removed debug chat msg on whiteboard activation. 20110802 12:14:04-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.82.163] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:14:04-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.82.163] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 12:14:04-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:14:07< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50555 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (side_actions.cpp side_actions.hpp): Added fcn side_actions::safe_clear(). 20110802 12:14:35< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50556 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (side_actions.cpp side_actions.hpp): Added wb::side_actions::make_net_cmd_refresh(). 20110802 12:15:03< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50557 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (side_actions.cpp side_actions.hpp): Added wb::side_actions::hide(). 20110802 12:15:30< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50558 /trunk/src/whiteboard/manager.cpp: Made whiteboard action numbers team-colored. 20110802 12:15:48-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110802 12:16:03-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.82.163] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:16:03-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.82.163] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 12:16:03-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:16:03< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50559 /trunk/src/whiteboard/manager.cpp: Changed indentation. 20110802 12:16:25< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50560 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (4 files): 20110802 12:16:25< CIA-57> Changed wb::manager::net_buffer_. 20110802 12:16:25< CIA-57> Instead of just one buffer for all network data, there is now one separate buffer for each team's whiteboard network data. 20110802 12:16:54< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50561 /trunk/src/whiteboard/highlight_visitor.cpp: Alphabetized #includes. 20110802 12:17:22< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50562 /trunk/src/whiteboard/visitor.hpp: Added class template visitor_base. 20110802 12:17:51< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50563 /trunk/ (12 files in 3 dirs): 20110802 12:17:51< CIA-57> Reimplemented a lot of iteration code using the new visitor_base template. 20110802 12:17:51< CIA-57> Removed visitor.cpp because all the code is in visitor.hpp now. 20110802 12:18:24< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50564 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Partly fixed whiteboard issue with droiding and player-switching. 20110802 12:19:02< Espreon> My my... 20110802 12:26:37< Espreon> tschmitz: OMGWHATHAVEYOUDONE? WARNINGS GALORE! http://pastebin.com/ndQyYUuP 20110802 12:27:01< Espreon> tschmitz: If you want me to get the warnings again with -j1, I'll do so. 20110802 12:29:11-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@222.124.85.36] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:32:23-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20110802 12:41:55< CIA-57> loonycyborg * r50565 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (manager.cpp visitor.hpp): Fixed compile warnings. 20110802 12:42:09< loonycyborg> Espreon: ^ 20110802 12:43:00< Espreon> Thank you. 20110802 12:44:47-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 12:45:03< fendrin> wesbot: seen mordante? 20110802 12:45:03< wesbot> fendrin: The person with the nick mordante last spoke 1d 14h ago. 1d 14h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-de with the message: Quit: Leaving 20110802 12:47:31-!- atomicbomb [~quassel@222.124.85.36] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110802 13:00:26-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 13:04:15-!- Genesis [~genesis@ACaen-552-1-87-85.w92-144.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 13:16:33-!- enchilado [~enchilado@ppp118-208-136-212.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: brb] 20110802 13:16:55-!- enchilado [~enchilado@ppp118-208-136-212.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 13:23:42< Genesis> hello 20110802 13:23:56< Genesis> does wesnothd depends on libsdl with X and video support ? 20110802 13:24:45< Genesis> i think it's a little mistake in the gentoo ebuild with dedicated use flag. 20110802 13:45:32-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 14:28:27< Rhonda> Actually no, I *think* the framebuffer driver of sdl should be sufficient. 20110802 14:28:35< Rhonda> I never really have tried it though. 20110802 14:36:04< loonycyborg> libsdl is absolutely necessary because SDL_net depends on it. 20110802 14:36:59< Genesis> yeap but libsdl can be build without X and video support 20110802 14:37:18< Genesis> i just have to try when i find time 20110802 14:37:21< Genesis> thanks for help 20110802 14:39:44< Rhonda> Oh, wait. You spoke of wesnothd. 20110802 14:39:53< Rhonda> No, that definitely doesn't require X and video support. :) 20110802 14:40:27< Genesis> oki thanks. 20110802 14:41:17< loonycyborg> Unless some shared code used by wesnothd depends on it. 20110802 14:42:58< loonycyborg> There's one place I know where X api is used directly, but probably it's not in wesnothd. 20110802 14:45:02< Rhonda> loonycyborg: I would consider it a bug if wesnothd would use X code. 20110802 14:45:12< Genesis> me too 20110802 14:45:15< Rhonda> A server binary has no need for X 20110802 14:46:31< elias> a common bug though 20110802 14:46:43< elias> i think half of the things in my crontab have to run in xfvb to work 20110802 14:47:19< fendrin> I have a strange problem with cmake and the generated eclipse project. 20110802 14:48:04< fendrin> During the compile it can't find the needed makefiles because it adds the current build target to the location where it executes make. 20110802 14:49:14< fendrin> meaning it tries to execute make in 20110802 14:49:16< fendrin> Description Resource Path Location Type 20110802 14:49:17< fendrin> make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/wesnothd.dir/all] Error 2 Project-Debug@trunk_build C/C++ Problem 20110802 14:49:39< fendrin> The "all" directory does not exist. 20110802 15:07:50-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 15:59:01< fendrin> tschmitz: Building wesnoth fails here: error: ‘void wb::print_to_chat(const std::string&, const std::string&)’ defined but not used 20110802 16:59:35-!- hhyloc [~hhyloc@113.166.146.226] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 17:00:08-!- timotei [~Timo@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 17:13:02-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110802 17:24:48-!- yenloc [~hhyloc@113.166.146.226] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 17:28:34-!- hhyloc [~hhyloc@113.166.146.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20110802 17:44:20-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Quit: crimson_penguin] 20110802 17:56:41-!- yenloc [~hhyloc@113.166.146.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20110802 17:59:14-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 18:05:19-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB9E.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20110802 18:06:26-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB9E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 18:17:11-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110802 18:17:16-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@p5B07D718.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 18:17:16-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@p5B07D718.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 18:17:16-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 18:34:13-!- timotei [~Timo@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110802 18:38:20-!- dtiger [~dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-46-53-165-225.telecom.by] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 18:39:42-!- timotei [~Timo@193.34.190.70] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 18:39:45-!- timotei [~Timo@193.34.190.70] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 18:39:45-!- timotei [~Timo@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 19:04:17-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-20-121-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110802 19:08:44-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@184.71.170.250] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 19:08:44-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@184.71.170.250] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 19:08:44-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 19:34:11-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 19:45:52< CIA-57> tschmitz * r50566 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (manager.cpp visitor.hpp): More cleanup. 20110802 20:04:49-!- monochromatic [~monochrom@pool-74-109-66-254.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20110802 20:09:56-!- monochromatic [~monochrom@pool-74-109-66-254.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 20:13:03-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 20:25:10-!- esr [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/esr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 20:40:40-!- deekay [~dk@89-79-35-236.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 20:40:40-!- deekay [~dk@89-79-35-236.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 20:40:40-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 20:45:56< chrisoelmueller> Ivanovic: heya, got some minutes for a query? 20110802 20:46:17< Ivanovic> chrisoelmueller: topic? 20110802 20:46:34< chrisoelmueller> mentor summit stuff, kind of 20110802 20:46:39< Ivanovic> sure, ask 20110802 20:46:42< timotei> loonycyborg, hi. around? 20110802 20:47:09< Ivanovic> chrisoelmueller: though if it is payment stuff related bust talk to noy when he is around 20110802 20:47:17< timotei> loonycyborg, I'm trying to write my first sconstruct file for the umc pluin 20110802 20:47:31< timotei> and I've seen you use the "env.Command" thingy 20110802 20:47:42< timotei> could you tell me what arguments it has? or give me a link where I can read more? 20110802 20:47:50< timotei> I've searched on the scons wiki but couldn't find anything :( 20110802 20:50:42< timotei> for example: env.Command("wesnoth-deps.png", "wesnoth-deps.dot", 20110802 20:50:42< timotei> "dot -Tpng -o ${TARGET} ${SOURCE}") 20110802 20:50:56< timotei> the first 2 things are a mystery for me 20110802 20:53:15< loonycyborg> timotei: Those are filenames: target and source. 20110802 20:53:30< timotei> ah. and if I just want to run a command, can I? 20110802 20:53:34< timotei> let's say: java --version 20110802 20:53:42< timotei> env.Command( "", "", "java --version" ) 20110802 20:53:45< timotei> this doesn't work :( 20110802 20:54:06< loonycyborg> Execute("java --version") is one way. 20110802 20:54:25< loonycyborg> But if you just want to execute things you can use plain python :P 20110802 20:54:44< timotei> ah. 20110802 20:54:46< timotei> good idea 20110802 20:55:36< loonycyborg> timotei: http://www.scons.org/doc/latest/HTML/scons-man.html <- that's the reference I generally use 20110802 20:55:55< timotei> loonycyborg, thanks! 20110802 21:18:46-!- tschmitz [18827665@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.130.118.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110802 21:22:47-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110802 21:24:23-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-113-23.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 21:24:23-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-113-23.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20110802 21:24:23-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 21:31:55-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-046-005-024-090.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 21:34:31< CIA-57> timotei * r50567 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/projects/ProjectUtils.java: save the install name when creating the project 20110802 21:34:49< CIA-57> timotei * r50568 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/action/RunWMLLintOnPreprocFile.java: eclipse plugin: Remove unused class 20110802 21:35:04-!- timotei [~Timo@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20110802 21:35:14< CIA-57> timotei * r50569 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 20110802 21:35:14< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Add a new parameter for install name 20110802 21:35:14< CIA-57> for the wml tools 20110802 21:35:35< CIA-57> timotei * r50570 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth.ui/src/org/wesnoth/ui/navigation/WMLHyperlinkHelper.java: 20110802 21:35:35< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Fix the map opener hyperlink creator 20110802 21:35:35< CIA-57> code 20110802 21:36:03< CIA-57> timotei * r50571 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/org.wesnoth.product: eclipse plugin: Remove some useless fragment dependencies 20110802 21:36:14< CIA-57> timotei * r50572 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/build/ (SConstruct build.cmd build.sh): 20110802 21:36:14< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Replace the 2 shell scripts with 20110802 21:36:14< CIA-57> a Scons script 20110802 21:37:20-!- dtiger [~dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-46-53-165-225.telecom.by] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 21:48:39< anonymissimus> Espreon: well my campaign is using the wolf units (not only since you added them) so i kind of have a right to edit these files :P 20110802 21:49:13< loonycyborg> Which one is that? 20110802 21:50:35< anonymissimus> actually I got a unit id collision so I was forced to fix it and removing the custom unit made most sense 20110802 21:51:35< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: the campaign ? 20110802 21:51:41< loonycyborg> Yes. 20110802 21:52:02< anonymissimus> it's called The Earth's Gut on the 1.9 server 20110802 21:52:17-!- monochro1atic [~monochrom@pool-108-2-81-108.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 21:52:17< loonycyborg> Given that you show up here often I at least should check out your umc :P 20110802 21:53:41< anonymissimus> Espreon: and I definitely want an advancement tree since these wolves/great wolves appear together 20110802 21:54:27-!- monochromatic [~monochrom@pool-74-109-66-254.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110802 21:55:30< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: ok thanks; you have a hard time checking out the addons of everyone who enters the channel :P 20110802 21:56:17< anonymissimus> it's my first wesnoth works which I leraned wml with and still unfinished; development "infamously slow" (shadowmaster) 20110802 21:58:05< anonymissimus> and shadowmaster : thanks for applying the patch :), looks good 20110802 22:02:49-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@c-76-105-37-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110802 22:08:23< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen gabba 20110802 22:08:23< wesbot> Ivanovic: The person with the nick gabba last spoke 1d 13h ago. 1d 13h ago person left: 20110802 22:18:13< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: btw I also have a mp addon which is definitely worth trying 20110802 22:18:45< anonymissimus> settlers of wesnoth on the 1.9 server 20110802 22:19:02< anonymissimus> a computer version of settlers of catan 20110802 22:21:53< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: You should really consult esr to improve your prose :P 20110802 22:22:15< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: of course yes thats my weak part 20110802 22:22:42< anonymissimus> although many of the dialogs got partially rewritten so far 20110802 22:23:13< anonymissimus> however, what's good about my addon is that it simply works 20110802 22:23:48< anonymissimus> meven though it's quite complex, but you won't find bugs that hinder playing 20110802 22:24:04< anonymissimus> like in the usual UMC 20110802 22:24:39< anonymissimus> and I use both addons to learn about the C++ engine and help its development 20110802 22:25:24-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB9E.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20110802 22:26:04-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB9E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 22:27:09-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB9E.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 22:27:34-!- Grimling [~FKint@91.181.165.90] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 22:29:21-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB9E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 22:31:11< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: also, esr is sort of enforcing his standards on others; this affects not only indentation but also the prose 20110802 22:31:29< anonymissimus> for instance, "elimination fo earth names" 20110802 22:31:48< anonymissimus> thats useless trouble 20110802 22:32:43< anonymissimus> so I wouldnt really like to consult esr, and I never wanted my UMC to become mainline anyway 20110802 22:37:44< loonycyborg> Nonetheless he's the only one who would want to tutor you who comes to mind. 20110802 22:41:57< CIA-57> anonymissimus * r50573 /trunk/projectfiles/CodeBlocks/wesnoth.cbp: cb projectfile update 20110802 22:56:29-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110802 23:03:27-!- Upth [~ogmar@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 23:03:27-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20110802 23:29:18-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20110802 23:31:22-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: ...] 20110802 23:40:15-!- Grimling [~FKint@91.181.165.90] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20110802 23:42:56-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110802 23:43:32-!- Crendgrim [~crend@77-22-254-233-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: well, see you tomorrow :)] 20110802 23:45:51-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20110802 23:55:16-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-046-005-024-090.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316074819]] --- Log closed Wed Aug 03 00:00:16 2011