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20110809 02:59:37< fendrin> wesbot: seen crab_?
20110809 02:59:38< wesbot> fendrin: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 2d 5h ago.  3h 25m ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
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20110809 03:26:03< JordiGH> What are the current recommendations for making portraits? juilletrain here might do some. I found this, but it says it's outdated: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Making_portrait_art_in_vector
20110809 03:29:01< JordiGH> Oh, wait, there's this... http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Create_Art
20110809 03:29:36< Espreon> Well...
20110809 03:29:54< Espreon> If you wish to make art for mainline, just follow the mainline style.
20110809 03:30:08< Espreon> Yeah, most of the art tutorials on the wiki are outdated.
20110809 03:30:11< JordiGH> juilletrain: Zombies, right?
20110809 03:30:46< juilletrain> yes. they eat brains. 
20110809 03:30:59< JordiGH> Btw, why does Wesnoth not say the z-word? Homage to zombie films
20110809 03:30:59< JordiGH> ?
20110809 03:31:24< Espreon> Because we don't wish to do so?
20110809 03:31:37< JordiGH> I thought it was an in-joke.
20110809 03:31:52< Espreon> What joke?
20110809 03:32:06< Espreon> If you mean that absurd reference in DiD, yeah...
20110809 03:32:08< JordiGH> It's a law of zombies films. You can't say "zombie" in zombie films.
20110809 03:32:09< Espreon> That's been removed.
20110809 03:32:23< Espreon> Sigh...
20110809 03:32:50< shadowmaster> I think the Technical requirements for portraits topic in Art Contributions is the current must-read document (http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24555) and you may be able to get ideas from kitty's tutorial (http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=21138) as well
20110809 03:33:08< JordiGH> Espreon: What was in DiD?
20110809 03:34:24< Espreon> Oh, nothing.
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20110809 07:52:06< CIA-57> thonsew * r50662 /trunk/src/halo.cpp: Fix for bug #17292 Mage of Light Flash during melee combat. Added an unrender(), render() pair around changes in the location of the halo.
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20110809 08:40:28< CIA-57> thonsew * r50663 /trunk/src/ (unit_map.cpp unit_map.hpp): Fixed bug #18457 broken replay by partial reversion of unit_map speed up patch.
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20110809 09:44:01< Ivanovic> moin
20110809 09:46:35< sytyi> morning
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20110809 15:32:12< CIA-57> anonymissimus * r50664 /trunk/src/gamestatus.cpp: prevented some [side]key= attributes from being propagated to the leader creation (fix for bug #18455)
20110809 15:32:33< CIA-57> anonymissimus * r50665 /trunk/changelog: changelog entry which I forgot in r50649
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20110809 20:12:22< chrisoelmueller> Ivanovic: would you like your credits entry over at UH to read your real name, too? sometimes people only want their nicks there which is why I ask now :)
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20110809 20:46:10< Crab_> hi, fendrin - you were looking for me ?
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20110809 20:55:18< Espreon> anonymissimus: Since you seem to be addicting to fixing bugs right now, why not try fixing bug #18475 while keeping bug #17292 fixed?
20110809 21:01:08< CIA-57> timotei * r50667 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 
20110809 21:01:08< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Add a link to the data/core
20110809 21:01:08< CIA-57> directory for each project
20110809 21:01:29< CIA-57> timotei * r50668 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/changelog: eclipse plugin: Update the changelog
20110809 21:02:13< CIA-57> timotei * r50669 /trunk/utils/umc_dev/org.wesnoth/src/org/wesnoth/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 
20110809 21:02:13< CIA-57> eclipse plugin: Recreate the Core Library link if
20110809 21:02:13< CIA-57> we change the project's wesnoth install
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20110809 21:13:27< specing> Hello, is it possible for wesnoth to force a resolution upon the window manager?
20110809 21:13:58< specing> Im running it under a tiling WM
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20110809 21:39:58< anonymissimus> Espreon: just because I'm better at not introduing bugs in my commits he ? :P
20110809 21:40:13< anonymissimus> no thats thonsews task
20110809 21:40:44< anonymissimus> i feel rather attracted by bugs related to the wml or lua action engine
20110809 21:41:09< Espreon> My my, I'm sorry that I've smarted you.
20110809 21:42:05< anonymissimus> what about you fixing http://gna.org/bugs/?18441 ?
20110809 21:42:38< Espreon> If it makes you happy, go ahead.
20110809 21:42:46< anonymissimus> if it's a stack overflow or such you probably have an infinite recursion which tend to be eady to fix
20110809 21:43:17< anonymissimus> and you already fiddled with that area ;)
20110809 21:43:28< Espreon> Lies.
20110809 21:43:29< anonymissimus> you can do it I'm sure ;) 
20110809 21:43:32< Espreon> Nope.
20110809 21:43:44< Espreon> I have a snowball's chance in Hell of fixing it.
20110809 21:45:22< Espreon> In the time it'd take me to fix it, I could have accomplished something far greater.
20110809 21:45:26< Espreon> .win 82
20110809 21:45:26< Espreon> Damn it.
20110809 21:46:08< anonymissimus> well but that is it; 80% or even more of a coder's time spent on coding should be bugfixing IMHO
20110809 21:46:30< Espreon> I see; however, there's a problem.
20110809 21:46:52< Espreon> ... I'm not a coder.
20110809 21:46:53< anonymissimus> thats the last 10% of a feature and they are always the hardest
20110809 21:47:12< anonymissimus> didnt you create a C++ patch lately
20110809 21:47:27< Espreon> Oh come on, any idiot could have done that.
20110809 21:47:33< anonymissimus> blabla you can do wml and lua
20110809 21:47:55< Espreon> WML doesn't count; I suck at Lua.
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20110809 21:49:58< anonymissimus> well that patch you made doesnt look trivial
20110809 21:50:15< Espreon> Believe me, it's quite trivial.
20110809 21:51:10< Espreon> anonymissimus: If that doesn't convince you, then I'll just tell you that 99% of the C++ I've ever read is sheer nonsense to me.
20110809 21:51:11< anonymissimus> what makes one a coder is not whether you know C++ syntax I think; it's rather about recognizin structures
20110809 21:51:41< anonymissimus> well guess what, for me too
20110809 21:52:38< Espreon> Well, I don't recognize 99% of the structures.
20110809 21:52:44< Espreon> There you go.
20110809 21:52:44< anonymissimus> although the problem with the wesnoth source is not so C++ syntax but rather that you have lots of calls to undocumented stuff which also calls lots of undocumented stuff and so forth
20110809 21:53:37< Espreon> And I don't wish to deal with that!
20110809 21:53:40< anonymissimus> and I'm going crazy trying to understand all the content of teh code where I'm currently at
20110809 21:55:21< Espreon> All right, become wood, but I shan't become wood by reading C++ or other nonsense.
20110809 21:55:35< anonymissimus> well, about that new bug you reported, just assign to thonsew since he introduced it :P
20110809 21:56:21< Espreon> All right, then stop convincing me I have abilities that I don't.
20110809 21:57:02< anonymissimus> well did you try ? just in case you succeed you'll get great satisfaction xD
20110809 21:57:23< Espreon> Try doing what?
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20110809 21:58:16< anonymissimus> fixing bug #18441
20110809 21:58:30< Espreon> Nope!
20110809 22:01:44< Espreon> Also, fixing that bug won't give me satisfaction, for noöne should be trying to do what's triggering it... Well, unless it affects more than I think it does.
20110809 22:02:53< anonymissimus> well, imagine you realizing that despite your expectation you could do it, wouldn't that be great ?
20110809 22:03:04< Espreon> Maybe.
20110809 22:03:18< Espreon> But, as you probably know, I have an add-on to develop.
20110809 22:03:36< anonymissimus> of course, me too
20110809 22:03:43< anonymissimus> i have several
20110809 22:04:58< Espreon> Ah, but mine is probably far more complex.
20110809 22:05:15< Espreon> And I care too much about quality.
20110809 22:05:31< anonymissimus> ">	Ah, but mine is probably far more complex"
20110809 22:05:48< anonymissimus> I have a hard time imgining something more complex than SoW
20110809 22:06:18< anonymissimus> its not so much code, but it turns the gamne 180° degree
20110809 22:06:38< Espreon> But, I have an elaborate multifloor system.
20110809 22:07:43 * anonymissimus attempts fixing bug #18441
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20110809 22:08:09 * Espreon chuckles
20110809 22:13:59< Ivanovic> Crab_, anonymissimus: so commit access for Elvish_Hunter is okay?
20110809 22:14:12< sytyi> mordante: I'm working with GUI WML markup now. 43 unique error now. Mostly about unknown type values and listbox, tree_view. I'd like to discuss it with you and also know, if I can commit validation code?
20110809 22:14:46< Ivanovic> specing: what do you mean with "force a resolution"?
20110809 22:15:21< Ivanovic> specing: while in windowed mode you can basically set the game to anything smaller than your window managers display resolution (and larger than 800x480!)
20110809 22:15:32< sytyi> mordante: ^  http://pastebin.com/B1ifLYGe 
20110809 22:15:54< Ivanovic> specing: in full screen mode you get the solutions to chose from that sdl thinks are valid (those are eg based on what the display driver tells sdl is allowed)
20110809 22:19:58< specing> Ivanovic: not resizable
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20110809 22:20:24< Ivanovic> specing: open the preferences, go to the display tab and there you should be able to select a different resolution
20110809 22:21:14< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: well, yes; note that he doesnt know C++ (but we have many such guys don't we)
20110809 22:21:34< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: yeah
20110809 22:22:01< anonymissimus> he is active in the wesnoth UMC repo sicne quite some time now too
20110809 22:22:52< specing> Ivanovic: I can change the resolution, but the problem is that my window manager can do that too, and it does that to e.g. 1440*200 or 400*900
20110809 22:23:17< anonymissimus> Espreon: does it make sense to supply anything else than >=1 for the [attacks]sub,divide,multiply,add= keys ? that could be a fix then
20110809 22:23:35< Ivanovic> specing: honestly, i don't understand exactly what you are talking about
20110809 22:23:38< Espreon> Eh, not sure. Lemme do some reading.
20110809 22:23:45< Ivanovic> especially what you mean regarding "tiling window manager"
20110809 22:23:58< Ivanovic> tiling is eg a technique used by the display driver to save bandwidth
20110809 22:24:28< Ivanovic> or it might be something done as part of compositing/whatever
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20110809 22:25:27< Ivanovic> i know that when using kde i can, while in windowed mode, either use the display preferences to change the resolution to fixed sizes depending on what xrandr provides or that i can go change the size of the window by using the window border
20110809 22:25:51< Ivanovic> when in fullscreen mode i can just change the resolution used for the display by setting a different value via the preferences
20110809 22:26:17< Ivanovic> (though you could also close wesnoth and manually alter the values for x and y size in the preferences file)
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20110809 22:28:01< specing> Ivanovic: this is what I mean: http://www.image-share.com/ipng-841-156.html
20110809 22:28:51< Ivanovic> specing: hmm, somehow this looks as if you are in some kind of full screen mode
20110809 22:29:03< Ivanovic> so you could try eg hitting ctfl+f
20110809 22:29:18< Ivanovic> or exit wesnoth and alter the preferences file
20110809 22:29:31< Ivanovic> though this seems to simply be something strange with your window manager
20110809 22:29:39< Ivanovic> and how it interacts with an sdl app
20110809 22:38:05< specing> Ivanovic: I have another SDL game (Globulation 2) and it overrides my window manager correctly
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20110809 22:38:32< specing> Also other OpenGL games do the same
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20110809 22:53:25< anonymissimus> Espreon: well, teh pronlem is the -
20110809 22:54:01< anonymissimus> the number of strikes is calculated to a negative value, resulting in an unsigned int overflow
20110809 22:54:29< anonymissimus> which is too much later on, resulting in an out of memory error
20110809 22:54:56< Espreon> Hmmm, I see.
20110809 22:55:42< anonymissimus> don't you think you could have found this out ? :P
20110809 22:55:54< anonymissimus> so I'm half-way to teh fix now
20110809 22:56:07< Espreon> The former, yes; the latter, no.
20110809 22:56:23< Espreon> But yeah, forbidding "-" in those for weapon specials should be fine.
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20110809 23:00:11< Ivanovic> specing: and the available space is larger than 800x480?
20110809 23:00:40< Ivanovic> that is: with 1.8.x you need to use a param like --small-gui (not 100% sure about the exact spelling) to allow 800x480 as smallest res
20110809 23:00:53< Ivanovic> in 1.8.x you need at least 800x600 as minimum resolution
20110809 23:01:00< Ivanovic> anythin below simply can't work
20110809 23:04:32< specing> Ivanovic: I will give you the glob2 screenshot for reference
20110809 23:05:47< Ivanovic> specing: some information about the resolution you allow wesnoth, like eg the stdcout/cerr output would be more helpful!
20110809 23:06:17< Ivanovic> especially the output when trying to set a different resolution using the preferences menu
20110809 23:06:24< specing> Ivanovic: http://www.image-share.com/ipng-841-172.html
20110809 23:06:54< Ivanovic> and this is sdl "software mode" or is it an opengl canvas?
20110809 23:07:02< Ivanovic> (since wesnoth is *NOT* opengl!)
20110809 23:07:58< chrisoelmueller> specing: can't you just tag wesnoth to always behave like Float mode in your rc.lua?
20110809 23:08:31< specing> Ivanovic: Im not quite sure about that, it does link to both libSDL and libGL
20110809 23:09:06< specing> (and so does wesnoth)
20110809 23:09:41< specing> chrisoelmueller: that sounds more like a workaround than a solution
20110809 23:09:59< Ivanovic> [23:05:47] <Ivanovic> specing: some information about the resolution you allow wesnoth, like eg the stdcout/cerr output would be more helpful!
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20110809 23:10:34< specing> wesnoth outputs this: (when run in configuration on the image)
20110809 23:10:36< specing> Checking video mode: 1016x620x32...
20110809 23:10:37< specing> setting mode to 1016x620x32
20110809 23:14:11< Ivanovic> specing: and now please check how much space is available in the tile you assigned wesnoth to
20110809 23:14:20< Ivanovic> this looks to be significantly smaller
20110809 23:14:40< Ivanovic> as if eg the wesnoth window was *behind* the other stuff
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20110809 23:15:22< Ivanovic> somehow i fear that it might be some kind of libsdl issue
20110809 23:16:36< anonymissimus> Espreon: putting that return statement there was a bad idea; if teh value is inappropriate that wapon specail should just get ingored
20110809 23:16:54< anonymissimus> but possible other modifications must get calculated
20110809 23:16:55< Ivanovic> specing: that is: glob2 is an opengl app
20110809 23:17:43< anonymissimus> think I have it fixed now :)
20110809 23:18:23< Espreon> anonymissimus: Hear this: that was my first C++ patch and my last one.
20110809 23:18:28< Espreon> But, yah.
20110809 23:18:31< Espreon> *yay
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20110809 23:18:48< anonymissimus> no, you have potential ;)
20110809 23:20:09< Espreon> No, I don't.
20110809 23:20:25< anonymissimus> but you followed the given patterns
20110809 23:20:40< anonymissimus> that's 90% of the work
20110809 23:20:42< Espreon> Anyone could have done that.
20110809 23:20:48< Espreon> Uh, wha?
20110809 23:20:57< anonymissimus> well, yes
20110809 23:21:00< Espreon> It was just simple searching.
20110809 23:21:12< Espreon> I used freakin' Kate to find where that shit was located.
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20110809 23:22:14< Espreon> Or are you talking about something else I'm not getting?
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20110809 23:29:14< gabba> Hey tschmitz
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20110809 23:29:25< gabba> how are things moving along?
20110809 23:29:46< tschmitz> gabba: Fairly badly
20110809 23:29:55< gabba> uh oh
20110809 23:30:07< tschmitz> The existing setup seems unfriendly to multi-turn moves
20110809 23:30:35< gabba> In what way?
20110809 23:30:49< tschmitz> Hm, let's see
20110809 23:31:00< o11c> Hi. http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GIT-SVN mentions a tarball (normally I'd just do a git svn clone ... I'm assuming this is for performance reasons?). URL please?
20110809 23:31:22< Espreon> Heh, no.
20110809 23:31:26< Espreon> That thing's massive.
20110809 23:32:12< o11c> Well fetching all the individual bits is bound to be slower than all at once ...
20110809 23:32:19< Espreon> Yup.
20110809 23:32:46< Espreon> Well, it's not really my call, but we don't have infinite resources.
20110809 23:33:23< Espreon> I suppose if someone like Soliton gives it to you, then fine.
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20110809 23:34:00< tschmitz> gabba: I'm not exactly sure. Perhaps I'm just "having trouble" with it
20110809 23:34:22< o11c> I'm not really planning to participate in wesnoth development, but I do want the history, which in SVN sucks
20110809 23:34:55< Espreon> Oh, well... then I guess your chances of getting it are far slimmer.
20110809 23:35:01< gabba> tschmitz: its something pretty ambitious to achieve in a short time frame
20110809 23:35:05< specing> Sorry, I ran out of RAM :(, again :(
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20110809 23:36:16< tschmitz> gabba: The existing code just doesn't feel very flexible
20110809 23:36:42< Ivanovic> specing: the last thing i wrote: [23:16:55] <Ivanovic> specing: that is: glob2 is an opengl app
20110809 23:37:06< Ivanovic> o11c: pasted you the url in a query
20110809 23:37:22< tschmitz> gabba: I can't say whether or not our side_actions container is going to be salvageable now that we want to organize actions differently
20110809 23:37:26< Ivanovic> o11c: and yeah, it is *considerably* faster to just get the tarball, otherwise you will likely wait for days
20110809 23:37:36< Ivanovic> (50,000 revisions take their time!)
20110809 23:38:12< gabba> tschmitz: aren't you planning to use one container per side per turn?
20110809 23:39:09< tschmitz> gabba: In general terms, yes
20110809 23:39:41< gabba> tschmitz: I'm surprised you feel limited by that, I thought the interface for multi-turn move creation and perhaps the building of the unit map in stages would be the hardest
20110809 23:39:54< tschmitz> gabba: So do I give each team a container of side_actions's? Or change the side_actions container to contain a container of action_queues?
20110809 23:39:57< specing> Ivanovic: ok
20110809 23:40:13< Ivanovic> specing: so it might likely be some libdl issue
20110809 23:40:13< specing> Ivanovic: the tile is smaller, yes
20110809 23:40:20< o11c> (funny, wget is switching between saying 1h 40m and 99m, before increasing to over 2h)
20110809 23:40:28< specing> It should be 720px
20110809 23:40:33< specing> horizontal
20110809 23:40:44< specing> and ~450 px vertical
20110809 23:40:55< tschmitz> gabba: building the unit map in stages *properly* will be difficult, but for now it will merely involve changing the iteration code to match whatever the new "containment" scheme ends up being
20110809 23:40:57< Ivanovic> 720px vertical might be the reason that you have problems
20110809 23:41:08< Ivanovic> anything below 800px vertical is *NOT* supported
20110809 23:41:24< Ivanovic> s/vertical/horizontal
20110809 23:41:32< gabba> tschmitz: giving each team one side_actions per turn makes the most sense
20110809 23:41:44< Ivanovic> and anything below 600px vertical requires the use of the commandline parameter --small-gui
20110809 23:41:47< gabba> tschmitz: you're already iterating over several side_actions
20110809 23:41:59< Ivanovic> *but* you still have to be at at least 480px
20110809 23:42:32< Ivanovic> so this might simply be the reason for your problems, the tile you provide is smaller than 800x600 and sdl does not take a canvas of its own
20110809 23:42:39< gabba> tschmitz: essentially it's the same as if there were "infinite teams" whose actions you must iterate over :P
20110809 23:43:14< tschmitz> gabba: The thing that's bothering me, I think, is that a multi-turn move is different from a sequence of individual single-turn moves
20110809 23:43:58< gabba> tschmitz: it sure is, since the various parts of the the multi-turn move end up in various containers
20110809 23:44:09< o11c> this discussion is quite interesting, it's kind of like something I've been wondering about ...
20110809 23:44:34< CIA-57> anonymissimus * r50670 /trunk/src/unit_abilities.cpp: Check for multiply= >=0 and divide= >0 in weapon specials. (fix for bug #18441)
20110809 23:44:44< o11c> namely, is it possible to overcome the "side-based" and "turn-based" aspects of wesnoth?
20110809 23:44:59< tschmitz> gabba: even so, if I make a multi-turn move, I don't care about reaching any of the intermediate destinations, but if I make a sequence of single-turn moves, then I do
20110809 23:45:37< o11c> I was thinking side-based could be overcome by swapping sides a lot ... can turns be jumped-to out of order?
20110809 23:46:25< gabba> o11c, depends on your proficiency in C++ and the number of years you're willing to spend
20110809 23:46:26< Crab_> o11c: well, at any particular time,there's 1 'active' side. but jumping is easy to get.
20110809 23:46:47< Crab_> s/years/hours :)
20110809 23:46:56< o11c> I like to think I'm quite proficient ...
20110809 23:48:06< anonymissimus> I know of 2 addons which implement side-jumping by jumping over side turns
20110809 23:48:20< anonymissimus> using [end_turn]
20110809 23:48:56< gabba> tschmitz: sure but I don't see how that's a problem
20110809 23:49:02< o11c> as for time ... I've kind of taken on some responsibility that will take up a few months ... thats what I said a few months ago and I haven't even gotten the first 90% yet
20110809 23:49:23< o11c> anonymissimus: nice, do you recall the names?
20110809 23:49:34< anonymissimus> ATBX and SoW
20110809 23:49:56< anonymissimus> on the 1.9 addons server, Settlers of Wesnoth is mine, ATBX by Exasperation
20110809 23:50:34< anonymissimus> basically, you end the turns of every side you come to until you reach teh target side, which can be in teh next game turn then
20110809 23:50:53< anonymissimus> sounds simple, but isn't xD
20110809 23:51:25< o11c> minor user experience penalty, since the turn number will be jumping up a lot
20110809 23:51:29< anonymissimus> Espreon: I've fixed it :)
20110809 23:51:56< anonymissimus> o11c: yes, although the visible turn number can be changed
20110809 23:52:06< o11c> ooh
20110809 23:52:20< o11c> though I imagine possible problems with autosaves ...
20110809 23:52:22< Espreon> anonymissimus: Yay...
20110809 23:52:46< o11c> but that could be why you said "visible"
20110809 23:52:59< Crab_> well, it's rather easy to hack the code to allow for turn/side jump via a new wml tag
20110809 23:53:22< tschmitz> gabba: So do I make them the same?
20110809 23:53:26< Crab_> that can, supposedly, deal with autosaves as well
20110809 23:54:06< negusnyul_> how can I enable debug options when compiling wesnoth? (I'm using cmake)
20110809 23:54:35< negusnyul_> I use gdb and want to get a nice backtrace
20110809 23:54:46< negusnyul_> But I don't really know cmake
20110809 23:55:10< gabba> tschmitz: sorry, again I'm not sure what you mean
20110809 23:55:39< gabba> tschmitz: if you want I can summarize how I think the whole thing should work, from interface to backend
20110809 23:56:48< o11c> negusnyul_: I'm guessing "cmake -D CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug ." - though I am only familiar with cmake through other projects, it looks like it might be generic
20110809 23:57:09< o11c> check in CMakeCache.txt
20110809 23:57:14< anonymissimus> Espreon: and thx for these test cases btw, I wish every bug would include one
20110809 23:57:23< anonymissimus> those are really good
20110809 23:57:31< tschmitz> gabba: Do I get the same thing (if I plan a multi-turn move for a certain destination) as (if I plan a sequence of single turn moves that ends at that destination)?
20110809 23:57:36< anonymissimus> gn8
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20110809 23:58:21< gabba> tschmitz: yes, if you select precisely the same waypoints to stop at when planning manually
20110809 23:58:36< tschmitz> gabba: Also, I would be thrilled if you proposed a design
20110809 23:59:13< gabba> tschmitz: Ok, here it goes
20110809 23:59:42< gabba> tschmitz: You have two use cases, one where the user is in plannning mode, the other when he's not
20110809 23:59:53< gabba> 1 - He's not in planning mode
20110809 23:59:53< tschmitz> gabba: But it won't be possible to delete a single multi-turn-move in a single go, and it won't recalculate the *whole* path if an enemy gets in the way of a piece of it
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