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20110816 01:05:30< Pholy> anyone here?
20110816 01:06:11< shadowmaster> it's better to ask the actual question and see if there's anyone available who can answer
20110816 01:06:34< Pholy> you play wesnoth?
20110816 01:07:33< Pholy> I downloaded the iphone version but having trouble using MP
20110816 01:07:49< Pholy> how do i find a MP game?
20110816 01:08:26< shadowmaster> the iPhone version uses the Wesnoth 1.6 MP server, and the current stable series is 1.8, so it's possible there won't be a lot of people using it
20110816 01:09:07< Pholy> I see. Is there any way to connect to a different server on iphone?
20110816 01:09:28< shadowmaster> no idea, and different stable series are not compatible between each other
20110816 01:09:59< shadowmaster> so if you managed to connect to the 1.8 server and bypass the redirect to 1.6 somehow, you'd be unable to play games without running into out-of-sync errors either way
20110816 01:09:59< Pholy> Is the PC version much different from the iphone version?
20110816 01:10:11< shadowmaster> it's better ;)
20110816 01:10:11< Pholy> I see^
20110816 01:10:35< Pholy> well.. kinda wish I hadn't spent 3.99 on it for iphone then
20110816 01:10:43< shadowmaster> the only downside is that some of the campaigns included in the iPhone version are add-ons in the PC version and not built-in, but that shouldn't be a huge deal
20110816 01:11:14< Pholy> i'm downloading the pc version right now
20110816 01:12:07< Pholy> I found a link to this mIRC client on the wesnoth website.. said I could find live help here. Guess they weren't lying. Thank you!
20110816 01:12:24< shadowmaster> no problem :)
20110816 01:12:35< Pholy> only issue was the website said the client is free and when I started it up it wanted me to pay 20$ to register
20110816 01:12:50< Pholy> or 30 day trial
20110816 01:13:05< shadowmaster> I wonder exactly where it says that; I thought we recommended freenode's webchat page instead
20110816 01:13:20< Pholy> what is freenode's webchat page?
20110816 01:13:45< shadowmaster> from http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Support#IRC,  http://webchat.freenode.net/
20110816 01:13:48< PolarPanda> Pholy: http://quassel-irc.org/downloads There you go, an awesome client and totally free.
20110816 01:14:14< PolarPanda> (get the monolithic client)
20110816 01:16:13< Pholy> ahhh I don't really want a client. The webchat sounds safer to me
20110816 01:16:25< PolarPanda> ...
20110816 01:16:28< PolarPanda> It does?
20110816 01:16:30< PolarPanda> Ok then.
20110816 01:16:47< Pholy> Would it not?
20110816 01:17:11< PolarPanda> I dislike the webchat personally, but then again, I'm just a simple user.
20110816 01:17:14< PolarPanda> :)
20110816 01:17:35< Pholy> I'm not the most tech-savvy guy although I feel i've got pretty good intuit in that area but alarms ring in my head when I have to click "unblock" from my firewall
20110816 01:17:56< Pholy> I don't want anyone remote accessing my computer...
20110816 01:18:24< PolarPanda> Heh...
20110816 01:18:44< enchilado> :]
20110816 01:18:48< Pholy> i'm off to install wesnoth ill be back on webchat in few minutes if i have any other quesitons..
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20110816 01:36:14< Gambit> Pfft shadowmaster skipped an opportunity to say
20110816 01:36:18< Gambit> I AM WESNOTH!
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20110816 02:56:29< aslkdjsad> hello?
20110816 02:56:47< shadowmaster> hi
20110816 02:57:55< aslkdjsad> I'm trying to save my game on ubuntu, but it says: could not autosave the game. PLease save the game manually.save_game_failed: Could not write to file 
20110816 02:58:33< aslkdjsad> any idea? I was thinking it was a permission issue, but i changed permissions on the main wesnoth folder so everything in it has read write access...
20110816 02:58:58< shadowmaster> this is going to sound incredibly dumb, but have you checked there's free space in the partition where the saves dir is?
20110816 02:59:56< aslkdjsad> i don't know where that dir would be!
20110816 03:00:22< shadowmaster> wesnoth will tell you on startup if you run it from a terminal
20110816 03:00:30< aslkdjsad> oh!
20110816 03:00:38< aslkdjsad> maybe just running it from the terminal would do it?
20110816 03:01:08< shadowmaster> right; either way it will be in your home dir
20110816 03:01:23< aslkdjsad> ok
20110816 03:01:59< aslkdjsad> sorry im a total ubuntu idiot
20110816 03:02:03< aslkdjsad> or linux idiot...
20110816 03:02:13< aslkdjsad> how do you open it from the terminal?
20110816 03:02:17< shadowmaster> also I assume that happens with any campaign/scenario, yes?
20110816 03:02:52< aslkdjsad> yes
20110816 03:02:58< aslkdjsad> unable to write anything to file
20110816 03:09:18< aslkdjsad> must be something really silly.,.,thanks for the help shadow
20110816 03:09:47< shadowmaster> you aren't running it (nor have you ever done that) as root with sudo or otherwise, right?
20110816 03:12:29< aslkdjsad> i installed it with the sudo command, but when i try to run it im logged in as admin?
20110816 03:12:41< aslkdjsad> how do i boot the game from the terminal?
20110816 03:12:51< shadowmaster> eh, right, you shouldn't be running wesnoth as root
20110816 03:13:10< shadowmaster> just run the command "wesnoth"
20110816 03:13:13< aslkdjsad> ok
20110816 03:13:38< aslkdjsad> same
20110816 03:13:55< shadowmaster> yeah, but what is the user configuration dir it is using? (it will be amongst the first lines of output)
20110816 03:15:18< aslkdjsad> 20110815 21:13:29 error filesystem: could not open or create preferences directory at /home/admin1/.wesnoth1.8
20110816 03:15:41< shadowmaster> ah, so a regular user with the name "admin1"
20110816 03:15:55< aslkdjsad> is it?
20110816 03:16:05< shadowmaster> yep, and that's the way it should be
20110816 03:16:11< aslkdjsad> hehe sorry again for my lack of savvy
20110816 03:16:12< aslkdjsad> ok
20110816 03:16:21< shadowmaster> (although the name choice isn't very good)
20110816 03:16:33< shadowmaster> either way, checked that there's free space on the disk?
20110816 03:16:36< aslkdjsad> there is no folder called .wesnoth-1.8 in admin1/
20110816 03:16:40< aslkdjsad> yes plenty
20110816 03:17:25< shadowmaster> what does "stat /home/shadowm | fgrep Uid" give in the terminal?
20110816 03:17:28< shadowmaster> er,
20110816 03:17:32< shadowmaster> replace shadowm with admin1 :p
20110816 03:18:22< aslkdjsad> Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: ( 1016/ UNKNOWN)   Gid: ( 1016/ UNKNOWN)
20110816 03:18:46< aslkdjsad> seems i'm missing w's there?
20110816 03:18:53< shadowmaster> hmmmm, have you done something weird with your system, like restoring from a backup or reinstalling?
20110816 03:19:01< shadowmaster> it looks like you aren't the owner of your own home dir
20110816 03:19:31< aslkdjsad> yea i added a distribution for music recording
20110816 03:21:11< aslkdjsad> xfce desltop environment
20110816 03:21:55< shadowmaster> so that means you installed two different Linux distributions on the same disk?
20110816 03:22:12< aslkdjsad> no it just upgraded it
20110816 03:22:23< aslkdjsad> i think..
20110816 03:22:24< aslkdjsad> hehe
20110816 03:22:44< shadowmaster> either way the problem with your home dir is that it looks like it belongs to an inexistent user
20110816 03:23:01< aslkdjsad> weird
20110816 03:23:16< shadowmaster> and it isn't world-writeable (it shouldn't be anyway), so you and Wesnoth can't create files on it
20110816 03:23:42< aslkdjsad> what a mess
20110816 03:23:51< aslkdjsad> what do you suggest?
20110816 03:24:48< shadowmaster> "sudo chown admin1:admin1 ~" should fix it, in theory
20110816 03:25:17< aslkdjsad> sudo chown admin1:admin1
20110816 03:25:20< aslkdjsad> er
20110816 03:25:25< aslkdjsad> chown: missing operand after `admin1:admin1'
20110816 03:25:32< shadowmaster> the tilde ~ at the end is necessary
20110816 03:25:56< shadowmaster> it is expanded to /home/<username>, in this case /home/admin1 assuming wesnoth got the right hint from the system
20110816 03:26:15< aslkdjsad> right, sorry again
20110816 03:26:53< aslkdjsad> it worked, you are a genius
20110816 03:27:30< aslkdjsad> have no clue what happened, but this is fantastic
20110816 03:27:32< shadowmaster> okay, no problem :)
20110816 03:27:49< aslkdjsad> thank you so much shadowmaster very kind of you
20110816 03:42:44< aslkdjsad> have a good one! 
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20110816 23:11:58< Keba> hi there
20110816 23:12:15< Keba> any tips for rebells vs drakes? except "stay in forests"
20110816 23:13:01< Crendgrim> Keba: not much information on the wiki, but maybe it'll help you nevertheless: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/How_to_play_Rebels#Rebels_vs_Drakes
20110816 23:13:05< shadowmaster> archers!
20110816 23:13:21< Keba> Crendgrim: read that, but thats not very informative
20110816 23:14:15< shadowmaster> seems exactly what I need myself, though
20110816 23:14:19< shadowmaster> *like what
20110816 23:14:27< Crendgrim> you need archers?
20110816 23:14:49< shadowmaster> Crendgrim: the link :)
20110816 23:14:59< Keba> hardest problem is that saurians are very good ad night, my mages can kill them… but mages are expensive and die to fast on day
20110816 23:15:15< shadowmaster> then again I'm more prone to ending up playing as drakes myself, not against them
20110816 23:15:28< Keba> shadowmaster: archers are nice but an army out of archers looses…
20110816 23:16:39< Crendgrim> I think you have to recruit very carefully
20110816 23:16:48< Keba> and shamans are useful, but fighters?
20110816 23:16:55< Crendgrim> more Drakes -> more Archers, more Saurians -> more .. well, no idea. Fighters?
20110816 23:17:16 * Crendgrim wishs he could play Wesnoth properly :(
20110816 23:17:17< shadowmaster> fighters should be good against burners who have a weaker melee attack
20110816 23:17:27< shadowmaster> and as cannon-fodder
20110816 23:17:49< shadowmaster> oh wait, I'm thinking SP. cannon-fodder in MP leads to level 2 enemies
20110816 23:18:04< Crendgrim> Keba: maybe you could go to youtube.com/brutalwesnoth and look for some elf / drake casts
20110816 23:18:29< Keba> theres a youtube channel?
20110816 23:18:30< Keba> very nice, thanks
20110816 23:18:42< shadowmaster> it's neki's channel IIRC
20110816 23:18:49< shadowmaster> most certainly not official either way
20110816 23:19:16< Crendgrim> no, not official
20110816 23:19:25< Crendgrim> but nevertheless I learned a lot from it
20110816 23:19:27< Crendgrim> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izNvhYAeKdo
20110816 23:19:32< Crendgrim> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awZiXdvf4kw
20110816 23:20:26 * Crendgrim goes off, see you tomorrow
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