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20110912 00:13:47< Crab___> Gambit: the problem is that it's not a recruting failure per se...
20110912 00:14:57< Crab___> Gambit: i.e. imagine a WML event which will teleport all recruited units to another place in the battlefield - in that case, the recruited unit does not appear at the recruit location, as well.
20110912 00:15:34< Crab___> Gambit: solving this in a proper way is not possible currently, so I'd try to find a WML workaround or extra precaution to the AIs recruiting routine
20110912 00:16:51< Gambit> Okay.
20110912 00:17:03< Gambit> Thank you.
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20110912 08:55:14< Espreon> wesbot: topic
20110912 08:55:16< wesbot> Espreon: Don't be impatient, wait until something changes...  *tsk*
20110912 08:55:19< Espreon> ...
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20110912 09:08:50< CIA-22> espreon * r51159 /trunk/data/campaigns/Liberty/scenarios/09_Epilogue.cfg: Use the new replay_save= key in Liberty's epilogue to prevent a useless replay save from being created; fixes bug #17222.
20110912 09:11:00< Espreon> wesbot: topic
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20110912 09:28:39< Espreon> esr: NR has a Trevor.
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20110912 09:32:57< Espreon> esr: Also, NR references the "AD" era.
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20110912 09:49:55< Ivanovic> moin
20110912 09:56:40< CIA-22> espreon * r51160 /trunk/data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/scenarios/05a_The_Pursuit.cfg: Prevented the possibility of seeing two Malifors; fixes bug #17295.
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20110912 10:08:30< Espreon> https://gna.org/bugs/?18639 ... Shit's serious.
20110912 10:08:47< Espreon> wesbot: bug 18639
20110912 10:08:47< wesbot> Bug #18639  Assigned to: None  Status: None  Priority: 5 - Normal
20110912 10:08:47< wesbot> Summary: Race names aren't translated in the sidebar
20110912 10:08:47< wesbot> Original submission: As said in the title, race names aren't translated in the
20110912 10:08:50< wesbot>  "sidebar" of the Create Dialog. As byspel, if this dialog were to be invoked wi
20110912 10:08:53< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?18639
20110912 10:09:43< Espreon> Yeah, I noticed that it now affects *the* sidebar.
20110912 10:10:00< Espreon> Well, it probably was the case in the first place.
20110912 10:12:02< Espreon> ... Odd... Sometimes it's translated... sometimes it isn't...
20110912 10:16:37< Espreon> zookeeper: Perhaps we should move the four difficulty versions of TURNS and such into core since at least two mainline campaigns use them?
20110912 10:17:10< zookeeper> sure, why not
20110912 10:17:42< Espreon> All right.
20110912 10:17:51< Espreon> I'll get right on that.
20110912 10:18:02< zookeeper> NR and...?
20110912 10:18:45< Espreon> DW.
20110912 10:18:52< zookeeper> right
20110912 10:19:10< zookeeper> yeah, go ahead. looks like the difficulty symbols are already the same between those two.
20110912 10:20:20< zookeeper> although that means you should add 4-level versions of a couple of other macros too IMO
20110912 10:20:28< zookeeper> QUANTITY and ON_DIFFICULTY at least
20110912 10:21:08< zookeeper> oh, right, NR already has QUANTITY4.
20110912 10:21:12< Espreon> QUANTITY4 already exists.
20110912 10:21:16< Espreon> Yeah.
20110912 10:28:23< CIA-22> espreon * r51161 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Moved the four-difficulty macros to core; wrote some new ones.
20110912 10:44:33< CIA-22> espreon * r51162 /trunk/data/core/macros/utils.cfg: Added comments to the four-difficulty macros so they'll get into the macro reference page.
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20110912 13:58:33< CIA-22> esr * r51163 /trunk/data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/scenarios/05a_The_Pursuit.cfg: 
20110912 13:58:33< CIA-22> Remove an AD reference.
20110912 13:58:33< CIA-22> In this sitiation the characters wouldn't be specifying calendar suffixes.
20110912 13:58:33< CIA-22> They haven't yet figured out they're on different calendars. Besides, it
20110912 13:58:33< CIA-22> simplifies things.
20110912 13:59:11< esr> I've fixed the AD reference.
20110912 13:59:34< Espreon> Hoorah.
20110912 14:01:14< Espreon> esr: And I suppose we'll let Trevor be?
20110912 14:15:08< esr> Thinking about it.
20110912 14:15:20< esr> Easy enough to change it.
20110912 14:15:45< Espreon> Yup.
20110912 14:22:31< elias> what would "AD" mean in Wesnoth?
20110912 14:26:56< Ivanovic> ancient date
20110912 14:27:00< Ivanovic> ^^
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20110912 14:30:50< CIA-22> esr * r51164 /trunk/data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/scenarios/05a_The_Pursuit.cfg: Fix a too-familiar name.
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20110912 18:46:49< CIA-22> anonymissimus * r51165 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/wesnoth.vcproj: vc9 projectfile update
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20110912 19:52:30< jonn_> hi, am completely new to wesnoth project and oss in general.  correct me on etiquette, feel free to scoff and refer to let-me-google-that-for-you with results that answer the question.
20110912 19:53:07< fendrin> hi jonn_
20110912 19:53:10< jonn_> i'm trying to build wesnoth in os x lion… i'm working on getting the pre-reqs and i'm stumped on how to get sdl 1.2.13 as recommended in the INSTALL doc.
20110912 19:53:45< jonn_> i used homebrew to get the other prereqs and that seemed to work fine.
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20110912 20:07:07< anonymissimus> fendrin: I very much doubt that it makes gameplay-wise sense to have 1 time of day to fight and then 2 where you should better not
20110912 20:07:31< anonymissimus> that is too short a cycle to do a normal push-retreat I mean
20110912 20:08:11< anonymissimus> it becomes a rather static fight, much to the disadvantage of the liminal units
20110912 20:08:43< anonymissimus> think I wouldnt want to play UtbS with that...
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20110912 20:09:29< Crab___> jonn_: not many of the devs are on Mac OS X, but some of them definitely are.
20110912 20:09:56< Crab___> it might be that no one of them is around now
20110912 20:10:25< jonn_> no worries.
20110912 20:10:56< Crab___> jonn_: look at http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34333&start=15#p504456 and try to contact Alarantalara via PM
20110912 20:11:32< jonn_> thanks Crab
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20110912 20:12:30< shadowmaster> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CompilingWesnothOnMacOSX
20110912 20:13:14< shadowmaster> I imagine Alarantalara may want to check if that's up to date too
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20110912 20:20:25< CIA-22> fendrin * r51169 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/ (scenarios/03_Stirring_in_the_Night.cfg utils/time.cfg): UtBS: New time schedule for "After the fall".
20110912 20:25:38< Soliton> anonymissimus: if only there was a way to verify that doubt.
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20110912 20:29:45< fendrin> anonymissimus: I do not really get what you talk about. Which time of day schedule are you referring to?
20110912 20:32:44< shadowmaster> fendrin: so all the changes for liminal to be useful in UtBS ARE COMMITTED ALREADY?
20110912 20:32:53< shadowmaster> oops, pretend everything after "UtBS" is lowercase :p
20110912 20:33:46< fendrin> shadowmaster: No, not really. The changes have made the faction weaker.
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20110912 20:34:20< shadowmaster> ok, ping me when you feel it's playable again[4~[4~[4~[4~[4~[4~[4~
20110912 20:34:41< Soliton> how is it not playable now? what else is planned?
20110912 20:35:53< fendrin> Soliton: The whole faction is in progress of redesign.
20110912 20:36:43< fendrin> Soliton: I think it is playable. It is just harder now.
20110912 20:37:11< fendrin> I do not know if it makes any sense to playtest the campaign with the old broken faction.
20110912 20:37:41< Soliton> so what's the plan?
20110912 20:39:31< fendrin> I do not know. Espreon is the maintainer of UtBS. I have just commited that part of my work Espreon wanted to have. I do not know the state of the current faction.
20110912 20:41:35< shadowmaster> fendrin: when changing the time schedule you checked that there weren't in-dialogue/WML references to the previous schedule? IIRC the characters made mention of specific times of the day in a few occasions, especially in scenario 2 where there's also some fixed WML logic that spawns and despawns enemies according to the time of the day based on a formula
20110912 20:44:36< fendrin> shadowmaster: No I did not. Espreon will need to know that.
20110912 20:46:03< fendrin> shadowmaster: In fact I think that whole scenario 2 and 3 need some major redesign with the changes.
20110912 20:46:12< fendrin> At least those.
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20110912 21:20:46< fendrin> anonymissimus: Did you code the [harm_unit] action wml tag? 
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20110912 21:33:18< anonymissimus> fendrin: harm_unit was coded by Elvish_Hunter
20110912 21:33:59< fendrin> anonymissimus: Thank you
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20110912 21:41:34< CIA-74> fendrin * r51170 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/utils/dehydration-utils.cfg: UtBS 02: Reduced the effects of dehydration.
20110912 21:42:09< fendrin> Espreon: ^
20110912 21:43:31< Espreon> Thanks.
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20110912 21:56:03< CIA-74> thonsew * r51171 /trunk/src/ (config.cpp serialization/parser.cpp): Changed config::hash() to an attribute order independent hash to correspond with the unordered attributes as a fix to bug #18632
20110912 21:56:06< CIA-74> thonsew * r51172 /trunk/src/server/server.cpp: Changed the default number of wesnothd server threads to 1, to prevent memory corruption due to the second thread. This makes the multiplayer game playable in spite of bug #18654. This is not a permanent fix.
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20110912 21:59:51< Soliton> the first hunk of r51171 looks like accidentally left in debug code.
20110912 22:21:27< CIA-74> thonsew * r51173 /trunk/src/config.cpp: Removed debugging code from config.cpp
20110912 22:22:48< thonsew> Soliton: I looked all over the place for the second bug, before I realized turning off threading fixed the problem.  And no I still don't understand exactly what the problem is.
20110912 22:22:56< CIA-74> espreon * r51174 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/12_The_Final_Confrontation.cfg: Rewrote various things in The Final Confrontation to use [harm_unit].
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20110912 22:30:26< Ivanovic> thonsew: you should possibly mark this change with a comment in code that setting it to '1' is a temporary work around for bug #
20110912 22:31:25< thonsew> I will put a todo there.  
20110912 22:35:07< CIA-74> espreon * r51175 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/elves/Corrupted_Elf.cfg: Have the Corrupted Elf use the elf hit sounds.
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20110912 23:30:18< CIA-74> thonsew * r51176 /trunk/src/ (exceptions.cpp formula_string_utils_backend.cpp variable.cpp): 
20110912 23:30:18< CIA-74> Moved wml formatting error messages from std::cerr to the wesnoth console, as per discussion with Espreon. See bug #18627
20110912 23:30:18< CIA-74> Marked error messages as translatable.
20110912 23:30:28< CIA-74> thonsew * r51177 /trunk/src/server/server.cpp: Added todo comment to restore threading to wesnothd once #bug 18654 is fixed
20110912 23:33:53< Espreon> thonsew: Perhaps you could look into the translation bugs?
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20110912 23:35:41< thonsew> Espreon:  I think more people are bothered by the Mandatory WML child bugs.  So I will have a look at those first.
20110912 23:35:58< Espreon> Yeah, please do.
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