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20110901 09:17:54< Ivanovic> moin
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20110901 09:24:02< enchilado> moin
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20110901 10:03:52< hopman> https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androthsoft.battlefree
20110901 10:03:54< hopman> https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androthsoft.battle
20110901 10:03:57< hopman> :)
20110901 10:05:11< shadowmaster> I was going to shout "SPAMBOT!" but then I ntoiced your nickname.
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20110901 10:05:42< Cookie> omg thats perfect
20110901 10:05:46< Cookie> I have an android!
20110901 10:05:57< Cookie> hopman: can you get onto the mp server?
20110901 10:06:07< hopman> not yet
20110901 10:06:11< Cookie> :(
20110901 10:06:12< shadowmaster> I WANT ONE TOO NOW! (if that's what I think it is)
20110901 10:06:14< hopman> I mean, I can
20110901 10:06:20< hopman> but you can't
20110901 10:06:21< hopman> :)
20110901 10:06:28< Cookie> shadowmaster: DO you know what I WANT?
20110901 10:06:29< hopman> It should be available soon
20110901 10:06:34< hopman> for everyone
20110901 10:06:39 * Cookie glares
20110901 10:06:52< Cookie> hopman: make an connect to mp one ^^
20110901 10:07:13< shadowmaster> hopman: hm, what's this three scenario tutorial you mention?
20110901 10:07:23< hopman> Oh... type
20110901 10:07:27< hopman> s/type/typo
20110901 10:08:16< hopman> I just fixed it... not sure how long it takes to update though
20110901 10:08:34< shadowmaster> hopman: can you log into your nickserv account? I just want to make sure it's really you and not an impostor uploading crap since I don't know how the store works :]
20110901 10:08:58< vurtualruler98> doesn't the hostname tell you that?
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20110901 10:09:17< shadowmaster> I don't see that IP in the forum database
20110901 10:09:25< shadowmaster> cjhopman: ah, cool, thanks :)
20110901 10:09:50< vurtualruler98> that only raises further suspicions!
20110901 10:09:54< vurtualruler98> wait, why wouldn't you see the IP in the databse?
20110901 10:09:56< Cookie> lol
20110901 10:10:04< vurtualruler98> (also, why would you supposedly be able to, for the record)
20110901 10:10:22< cjhopman> lol... my desktop is being shipped back from CA right now... so I'm on my laptop that I never use
20110901 10:10:40< vurtualruler98> that wouldn't change an IP would it
20110901 10:10:47 * Cookie is downloading it
20110901 10:10:47< cjhopman> I'm using some webchat
20110901 10:10:57< vurtualruler98> unless your IP is already dynamic
20110901 10:11:30< Cookie> top botton on the right correct?
20110901 10:11:36< shadowmaster> vurtualruler98: because he's not posted ith it yet
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20110901 10:13:55< Cookie> why isnt it downloading
20110901 10:15:04< janebot> Twitter: WesnothOrg: Battle for Wesnoth for Android out! Full version: http://t.co/DBwrdWi Free demo: http://t.co/AuEjyHe [ Sep-01-2011 08:12 ] [ http://tinyurl.com/3tnwsyv ]
20110901 10:16:52< Cookie> nvm, 
20110901 10:27:35< Cookie> cjhopman: does the money version have mp on it RIGHT NOW?
20110901 10:27:47< Cookie> if it does you prolly just earned 3$
20110901 10:27:51< cjhopman> no.
20110901 10:27:57< Cookie> :(  too bad
20110901 10:28:52< cjhopman> :(
20110901 10:30:21< Cookie> cjhopman: tell me when it has mp :P
20110901 10:30:54< cjhopman> ok, I've just made a note to let you know
20110901 10:31:19< Cookie> cjhopman: you know in the first tutorial
20110901 10:31:23< Cookie> can she miss once ?
20110901 10:31:47< cjhopman> what do you mean?
20110901 10:31:49< Cookie> or is it auto hit everything because i didnt see any missing
20110901 10:31:55< Cookie> Isar or whats her name
20110901 10:32:03< cjhopman> she can miss
20110901 10:32:47< Cookie> really? she looked like she had 99% hit :P
20110901 10:32:54< Cookie> anyways i shall wait for mp to be out
20110901 10:33:06< cjhopman> I hope your wait won't be long
20110901 10:33:12< shadowmaster> Li'sar
20110901 10:33:31< shadowmaster> and no, the S is not capitalized.
20110901 10:34:02< Cookie> i dont play campaigns, how do you expect me to remember her.
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20110901 12:19:51< elias> omg, so wesnoth for android is out
20110901 12:20:34 * elias buys
20110901 12:21:26< shadowmaster> psssh, you are buying the game you contribute to.
20110901 12:21:28< elias> hm, forgot to enable 3g networks... now it will take a while to download :P
20110901 12:22:51< elias> "for a risk free trial, download the tutorial..." - if it doesn't work i can just refund anyway i guess :)
20110901 12:25:08< elias> shadowmaster: well, i'd consider the $3 to be just for the android porting work - so didn't really contribute
20110901 12:25:37< elias> train rides from now on should be a lot less boring :)
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20110901 12:27:28< shadowmaster> wow, that's really cheap
20110901 12:27:36< elias> oh, refund is only 15 minutes after purchase... i won't be able to download that fast :P
20110901 12:27:51< shadowmaster> $1,856 chilean pesos. Now if I only had an android phone! :/
20110901 12:27:54< elias> shadowmaster: yeah, pay more when i get a coffee
20110901 12:28:29< elias> actually, in USD it's probably more than that
20110901 12:28:34< elias> $4 maybe
20110901 12:28:52< shadowmaster> actually a coffee for me would be about 40% of that
20110901 12:29:27< shadowmaster> a cheap lonely cup of coffee.
20110901 12:29:38< elias> yeha, that's EUR 2.50 here
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20110901 12:30:43< elias> it's done downloading *exited*
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20110901 12:31:23< Ivanovic> hmm, sadly the ebook reader "nook" only has android 2.1...
20110901 12:31:30< elias> hm, extracting (downloading?) music now
20110901 12:31:35< Ivanovic> otherwise it would be really cool to get a nook, root it and install wesnoth
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20110901 12:33:40< elias> heh, the refund period really should be longer than 15 minutes
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20110901 12:34:26< elias> it seems to take 2 minutes of extraction time per song... so starting will be even longer than downloading
20110901 12:34:28< enchilado> Ivanovic: $249 for a nook just to play Wesnoth?
20110901 12:34:46< Ivanovic> enchilado: why are you talking about 250$?
20110901 12:34:57< Ivanovic> regarding bestbuy they are available for 130$
20110901 12:35:01< Ivanovic> plus taxes
20110901 12:35:26< Ivanovic> if i went for an ereader i would not go for a "normal" tablet with lcd display
20110901 12:35:29< enchilado> For the colour or e-ink version?
20110901 12:36:15< enchilado> I don't think you could play Wesnoth on the e-ink one... don't e-ink screens invert every time they change?
20110901 12:36:36< elias> elfish-theme.ogg is done, now vengeful.ogg
20110901 12:36:39 * elias can't wait
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20110901 12:40:40< elias> heh, the initial download was 11MB, now I'm over 30MB
20110901 12:40:57< elias> 37MB now
20110901 12:41:10< Ivanovic> enchilado: ingame you can basically disable all the animations
20110901 12:41:10< elias> if it's as big as the desktop version, this will take *long*
20110901 12:41:15< Ivanovic> and without animations it should be possible
20110901 12:41:17< elias> and i will run over my monthly quota :P
20110901 12:41:24< shadowmaster> hm.
20110901 12:41:28< elias> maybe i'll have to do this at home over wireless
20110901 12:41:29< shadowmaster> elias: did it actually ask before doing all that?
20110901 12:41:48< enchilado> Ivanovic: what about when units move?
20110901 12:42:05< Ivanovic> would be interesting to see is/how that works on the eink screen
20110901 12:42:07< elias> shadowmaster: not sure, didn't read the description text and backgrounded it
20110901 12:42:20< Ivanovic> at least it would be *really* cool to just *have* a "hardcore game" on the eink device
20110901 12:43:05< enchilado> It would be cool. Even if it didn't work well.
20110901 12:43:11< Ivanovic> jepp
20110901 12:43:29< Ivanovic> and you could reduce the space requirements by removing all audio related files, too
20110901 12:43:42< Ivanovic> (since there is no audio capability on this specific eink device)
20110901 12:43:57< Cookie> shadowmaster: how much is an android phone there?
20110901 12:44:00< elias> 55MB now
20110901 12:44:13< shadowmaster> let me ask my ever friendly ISP. give me a couple of mins.
20110901 12:44:45< shadowmaster> (yes, it's also my phone provider)
20110901 12:45:04< Cookie> it doesnt take that long to download, it only took 3 minutes
20110901 12:45:43< elias> Cookie: the initial download, or the in-game one?
20110901 12:45:44< shadowmaster> over $200,000 chilean pesos
20110901 12:45:59< elias> 65MB here now... over 2G that would have taken hours already
20110901 12:46:00< shadowmaster> I could buy at least three printers with that money
20110901 12:46:12< shadowmaster> and 80% of a cheap laptop
20110901 12:46:31< shadowmaster> iPhones are over $500,000
20110901 12:46:46< Cookie> :S
20110901 12:47:24< Cookie> shadowmaster: so you guys get like 700,000 pesos when working right?
20110901 12:47:34< Cookie> its not like ... 500 pesos >.> or that o.O
20110901 12:47:48 * Cookie wonders how society is like
20110901 12:47:53< shadowmaster> Cookie: salaries can be as low as $90,000 pesos
20110901 12:48:01< shadowmaster> IIRC.
20110901 12:48:16< shadowmaster> I've met people with even lower salaries and I'm not sure if that's legal or not.
20110901 12:48:27< Cookie> :S
20110901 12:48:49< Cookie> shadowmaster: come australia, you can get a iphone after 1 week working :L
20110901 12:49:28< shadowmaster> I don't know how to walk upside-down. ._.
20110901 12:49:52< Cookie> too bad :(
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20110901 12:52:13< elias> 100MB... so did anyone else here install the android version? is this expected behavior?
20110901 12:54:06< Cookie> i downloaded it
20110901 12:54:17< Cookie> but im connected to a proper wireless connection
20110901 12:55:11< elias> how long did it take to start the first time?
20110901 12:55:37< elias> my wireless is slower than 3g, so if it loads 200MB that still should take a while
20110901 12:56:11< Cookie> the first time, it was had to get it to start.
20110901 12:56:17< Cookie> it just wouldnt download 
20110901 12:56:26< Cookie> on the fifth try, it started
20110901 12:56:30< elias> oh, i see
20110901 12:56:34< elias> guess the server is overloaded now
20110901 12:56:40< Cookie> hard*
20110901 12:56:41< elias> 1000ds of people starting it the first time
20110901 12:57:21< elias> too bad i didn't root my phone yet
20110901 12:57:34< elias> now i can't see which IP it's downloading from
20110901 13:00:15< Cookie> what phone do you have ?
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20110901 13:00:51< elias> nexus s
20110901 13:00:58< Cookie> omg me too
20110901 13:01:06< elias> :)
20110901 13:01:16< Cookie> by chance, are you on vodaphone?
20110901 13:01:24< elias> no
20110901 13:01:28< Cookie> :L
20110901 13:02:16< elias> i'm with the only phone company who even provides service here out in the mountains :/
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20110901 13:11:44< elias> hm, 200MB now
20110901 13:11:52< elias> and all the excitement gone, for now :P
20110901 13:12:26< shadowmaster> :(
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20110901 13:13:26< elias> wonder why cjhopman did it this way
20110901 13:13:43< elias> there may be something like a 100MB limit for android apps, so maybe he had no choice
20110901 13:14:06< shadowmaster> I do think something like music should be optional, even more so for a phone app.
20110901 13:15:31< elias> yeah, but that would mean an extra "get music" button in game
20110901 13:15:59< elias> just having it as a 300MB download in the market place would have been fine to me
20110901 13:16:20< elias> then i get the usual download bar and so on and see how long it takes
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20110901 13:18:17< elias> ah, it's done. so about 200MB it is. :)
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20110901 13:21:01< elias> working great :)
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20110901 13:39:18< elias> oh, now there's a note warning about the 200MB... i could swear that wasn't there before
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20110901 13:50:47< cjhopman> elias, it wasn't
20110901 13:51:35< elias> cjhopman: was 211 MB too big to just put it on the market?
20110901 13:51:43< cjhopman> yeah
20110901 13:51:48< elias> i see
20110901 13:51:49< cjhopman> I also just responded on the forums
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20110901 15:45:35< Unnheulu_> Elvish_Sovereign! :D
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20110901 17:32:07< hugormluis> hi anyone here?
20110901 17:32:16< KaKiLa> me here
20110901 17:32:50< hugormluis> hi :)
20110901 17:33:13< hugormluis> I have a problem with my wesnoth game XP
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20110901 17:33:56< hugormluis> I have the 1.4 version and I dunno how to update it. it doesn't matter. The point is that I can only enter at this server: wenoth.debian.net:15000
20110901 17:34:13< hugormluis> sorry for my bad english XP
20110901 17:34:39< hugormluis> but I never see anyone there in that server... XS
20110901 17:37:44< KaKiLa> probably the servers have changed sine 1.4. I meet lots of people using 1.8
20110901 17:37:57< KaKiLa> to update you can just go to the website and get the installers
20110901 17:38:18< hugormluis> can you send me some servers so I can try them and see if works?
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20110901 17:41:10< KaKiLa> server.wesnoth.org:15000
20110901 17:41:34< KaKiLa> let me know if it works
20110901 17:41:38< KaKiLa> lots of people there
20110901 17:41:52< KaKiLa> janebot: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=34020&p=505085#p505085
20110901 17:41:58< janebot> KaKiLa: title: Battle for Wesnoth &bull; View topic - [Timeline] Interactive time line
20110901 17:42:20< KaKiLa> guys, I would appreciate comments on that post, thanks!
20110901 17:43:21< hugormluis> doesn't work XS it says: Invalid WML received: failed to uncompress
20110901 17:43:43< KaKiLa> I am sure that is because of the version of your client
20110901 17:43:44< KaKiLa> it is to old
20110901 17:43:46< KaKiLa> update to 1.8
20110901 17:43:49< KaKiLa> 1.8.5
20110901 17:44:51< hugormluis> yes it's because of that... XD I use linux. and I dunno how to install the newest version... LOL
20110901 17:45:05< hugormluis> I gotta change to windows..
20110901 17:45:56< hugormluis> but try to enter in this server just take a doubt :)
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20110901 17:46:35< hugormluis> wesnoth.debian.net:15000
20110901 17:46:52< KaKiLa> hugormluis: in linux is even easier
20110901 17:47:09< KaKiLa> just do "apt-get install wesnoth"
20110901 17:47:15< KaKiLa> well..which lin do you have?
20110901 17:47:25< hugormluis> I dunno... lol
20110901 17:47:34< hugormluis> how can I see that?
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20110901 17:50:07< KaKiLa> hugormluis: uname -a
20110901 17:50:11< KaKiLa> in the command line
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20110901 17:52:15< hugormluis> it appears this: Linux localhost 2.6.24.7-desktop-1xcm #1 SMP Sat Sep 20 01:42:16 WEST 2008 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T3400  @ 2.16GHz GNU/Linux
20110901 17:54:29< KaKiLa> ok, you got kind of an old kernel also, but anyway, try "sudo apt-get install wesnoth"
20110901 17:55:23< hugormluis> yes i tried and it asks for a password
20110901 17:55:29< hugormluis> my password? XP
20110901 17:55:38< KaKiLa> sure, is it your computer?
20110901 17:56:01< KaKiLa> try with the password you used to login
20110901 17:57:50< hugormluis> yes. but i can't write... lol
20110901 17:58:14< KaKiLa> you do not see your input but you are wrinting, just type in your pass and hit enter
20110901 17:58:44< hugormluis> done
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20110901 17:58:56< hugormluis> and now?
20110901 18:00:48< KaKiLa> did it install wesnoth=?
20110901 18:01:35< hugormluis> loool i didn't downloaded it yet cuz I don't know the version that I have to download... XP
20110901 18:01:50< KaKiLa> aren't you using linux?
20110901 18:02:05< hugormluis> yes
20110901 18:02:29< KaKiLa> it should install automatically form the repository
20110901 18:02:34< KaKiLa> what the comman ddo?
20110901 18:03:12< hugormluis> Reading Package Lists... DonenBuilding Dependency Tree... Donenwesnoth is already the newest version.n0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 218 not upgraded.
20110901 18:03:50< hugormluis> http://www.wesnoth.org/   I should download it from here?
20110901 18:04:21< KaKiLa> ok, the problme is that for linux versio 1.4 is in the repositories. The easies thing to od is to update your linux to the newwest version. Then you will get wesnoth 1.8.5. Otherwise ids to go to the wesnoth site and download the latest stable and install it
20110901 18:06:08< hugormluis> ok thanks for the help :)
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20110901 18:08:06< KaKiLa> hi Crendgrim
20110901 18:08:13< Crendgrim> hi KaKiLa
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20110901 18:10:53< KaKiLa> Crendgrim: Would you cooment sometihng from here http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=34020&p=505085#p505085
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20110901 18:15:56< Crendgrim> KaKiLa: let me first read the forums, then I'll have a look
20110901 18:16:08< KaKiLa> Crendgrim: sure, thank you! :D
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20110901 18:34:54< Crendgrim> KaKiLa: link?
20110901 18:35:06< KaKiLa> Crendgrim: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=34020&p=505085#p505085
20110901 18:35:42< Crendgrim> no, from the timeline itself
20110901 18:36:12< KaKiLa> Crendgrim: sorry, http://www.angelgris.com/wesnoth/
20110901 18:37:04< Crendgrim> thanks
20110901 18:39:25< Crendgrim> looks nice
20110901 18:39:46< KaKiLa> yeah, but I am stuck! I do not know what to improve first and how to do it
20110901 18:39:46< Crendgrim> though if you add all events, you may want to make the timeline bar dragable, so you only see the events in a certain period..
20110901 18:39:57< Crendgrim> "Image here"
20110901 18:40:13< KaKiLa> good idea, I will add t to the post
20110901 18:40:59< Crendgrim> you may also change the links to point to TimelineOfWesnoth instead of MainlineCampaigns
20110901 18:41:59< KaKiLa> yes, but the timeline is in bad shape. Not only info is missing but also there are no anchors to point to specific events... what can be done?
20110901 18:43:52< KaKiLa> Crendgrim: I was thniking of using wesnoth icons to mark the evetns. What do you think?
20110901 18:46:11< Crendgrim> nice idea
20110901 18:46:51< KaKiLa> Crendgrim: Do you know if they are online somewhere or I just upload form the source?
20110901 18:47:26< Crendgrim> they are in the source repository, but apart from that — no idea. Better upload them yourself.
20110901 18:47:43< KaKiLa> Crendgrim: Ok,sure, I will do that
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20110901 19:06:36< pbunbun> So android app out, gg
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20110901 21:22:28< Soliton> cjhopman: "get revenge on the orcs by utilising the foul art of necromancy…"
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20110901 21:22:53< cjhopman> That is from one of our pages... is it not accurate?
20110901 21:23:15< Soliton> s/or/of/
20110901 21:23:23< Soliton> where is it from?
20110901 21:23:25< cjhopman> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Description
20110901 21:23:56< Soliton> yeah, should be fixed there as well.
20110901 21:26:18< cjhopman> Ok, fixed the market and the wiki
20110901 21:26:28< Soliton> thanks.
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