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20110922 01:25:05< janebot> Twitter: @WesnothOrg: The main 1.8 server is back online. Sorry it took so long! Only a few people here have the ability to restart it. Enjoy :) [ Sep-21-2011 23:23 ] [ http://tinyurl.com/3fyqwvf ]
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20110922 19:31:08< Static> I have an idea for a simple feature that would be very useful in certain circumstances, and would not affect anything drastically. Is this a good place to make suggestions?
20110922 19:33:04< Static> Basically, I was thinking to add the ability of adjacent units to be able to switch places, with a movement cost to both units
20110922 19:33:23< Static> This would help avoid an extra move in tight places
20110922 19:38:43< Crendgrim> it would break cave scenarios drastically, actually
20110922 19:38:54< Static> Break?
20110922 19:39:02< Crendgrim> well, "change"
20110922 19:39:20< Static> How so?
20110922 19:39:37< Crendgrim> as they are balanced for a lot of units on small space
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20110922 19:39:57< Crendgrim> and if you change the behavior, and allow adjacent units to switch places, this balancing would go away to a certain extent
20110922 19:40:32< Static> Actually, I think that most of the time it will just save a few extra mouse clicks
20110922 19:40:38< Crendgrim> well, I may be wrong, but my first assumption would be that nearly all cave scenarios would need to be rebalanced
20110922 19:41:01< Crendgrim> well, you've got way less movepoints the way it is now .. and you have to have much better unit placement
20110922 19:42:47< Crendgrim> and I think it would also affect the gameplay in situations where ZoC matters...
20110922 19:44:15< Static> Units allowed to move over each other, so why not switch places?
20110922 19:44:37< Static> and again, I can only see few situations where it can effect something
20110922 19:46:26< Crendgrim> hm, you may be right...
20110922 19:46:39< Static> I had a hilarious bug in UtBS when one of the undead killed the last human in the flooding cave :P
20110922 19:46:42< Crendgrim> the scenario I had in mind is totally wrong ... hehe
20110922 19:47:16< Static> Did you know bloated corpses can talk?
20110922 19:47:37< Static> I think I have a replay
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20110922 19:50:33< zookeeper> Static, not a new idea, there's quite a few threads somewhere on the forums about that.
20110922 19:52:02< zookeeper> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=22281
20110922 19:52:48< Static> I'm looking at it right now
20110922 19:54:09< Static> Ah, yes, that AI. Totally forgot about that.
20110922 19:54:57< Static>  I guess there's not much chance until someone implements it for others to test.
20110922 19:55:04< Static> I could give it a shot
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20110922 20:40:33< softcoder> hello there and devs here?
20110922 20:40:42< softcoder> any devs here?
20110922 20:43:12< Soliton> the devs are usually in #wesnoth-dev.
20110922 20:43:19< softcoder> thx
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20110922 20:54:58< Kursd> ?
20110922 20:54:59< Kursd> nvm
20110922 20:55:08< Kursd> anybody home
20110922 20:56:18< Soliton> try complete sentences.
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20110922 21:00:25< Kursd> testing testing
20110922 21:00:28< Kursd> cool
20110922 21:00:46< Kursd> is anybody here, i need help hopefully building for linux 11
20110922 21:01:18< Static> linux 11? :P
20110922 21:01:23< Static> do you mean Ubuntu?
20110922 21:01:46< Kursd> i guess, im new to the whole ubuntu linux thing
20110922 21:01:55< Kursd> im and xp and newly 7 guy
20110922 21:02:37< Kursd> hwell it says its linux mint 11
20110922 21:03:24< Static> You can just use the package manager, but it might not be the latest version
20110922 21:03:42< Kursd> is that on the wesnoth.org sit?
20110922 21:05:33< Static> If you open the package manager or the software manager in the main menu, search for wesnoth and just check it and install
20110922 21:05:45< Kursd> rgr that ty sir
20110922 21:08:13< Kursd> the dl is 1.8.5 is there any way to get it to .6 or is it a nogo
20110922 21:08:55< Static> You can try to find a binary online, or just compile from source
20110922 21:09:58< Kursd> ty, back to google i go ty again
20110922 21:10:15< Gambit> Kursd: wait
20110922 21:10:16< Static> I can help compile if you plan on doing so
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20110922 21:11:19< Gambit> Yeah compiling is actually really easy
20110922 21:11:22< Kursd> yes i do, my buds play it as 1.8.6
20110922 21:11:35< Static> Downloaded the source yet?
20110922 21:11:36< Kursd> and im damn near.. lost
20110922 21:11:48< Kursd> almost
20110922 21:11:51< Gambit> download the source code from wesnoth.org
20110922 21:12:07< Kursd> what is the name of this code
20110922 21:12:17< Kursd> im at 40%
20110922 21:12:29< Gambit> On the homepage where it says "source"
20110922 21:12:42< Kursd> HAHAHHA im a dummass
20110922 21:13:15< Soliton> 1.8.5 and 1.8.6 are compatible. no real need to update.
20110922 21:13:37< Kursd> 1,8,6tar.bz2 downloaded
20110922 21:13:41< Kursd> oh they are
20110922 21:13:44< Kursd> saweeet
20110922 21:13:48< Kursd> well
20110922 21:14:08< Static> Compiling is still a good thing to know how to do on linux
20110922 21:14:21< Gambit> Okay now you want to extract it
20110922 21:14:27< Kursd> shit bats dead
20110922 21:14:30< Soliton> not if you call it linux 11. :-P
20110922 21:14:44< Kursd> incase i die ty
20110922 21:14:52< Kursd> lol
20110922 21:14:56< Kursd> unbuntu
20110922 21:15:08< Soliton> but if you insist on compiling be sure to do "apte-get build-dep wesnoth" before hand.
20110922 21:15:09< Gambit> Soliton: Maybe he's from the future :o
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20110922 21:15:19< Soliton> apt-get*
20110922 21:15:25< Kursd> yeah i got linux so i can mod etc
20110922 21:15:27< Gambit> Since they're apparently doing major version numbers based on time now.
20110922 21:15:30< Kursd> mad hax
20110922 21:15:33< Kursd> lol jk nohax
20110922 21:15:52< Static> Do you know what a terminal is?
20110922 21:16:07< Kursd> negative
20110922 21:16:20< Kursd> im 8 hours old to Linux UBUNTU
20110922 21:16:40< Gambit> :<
20110922 21:16:48< Kursd> i warned ya
20110922 21:16:50< Kursd> :P
20110922 21:16:51< Gambit> I thought you said you had minte?
20110922 21:16:53< Gambit> *mint
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20110922 21:16:56< Kursd> yes
20110922 21:17:00< Kursd> mint
20110922 21:17:08< Kursd> linux mint
20110922 21:17:17< Kursd> not linux 11?
20110922 21:17:26< Static> Kursd: http://www.linuxmint.com/documentation.php
20110922 21:17:26< Kursd> thought mint was 11
20110922 21:17:30< Gambit> Ubuntu and Mint are these things called "distributions" of linux.
20110922 21:17:56< Kursd> AWESOME i tried to find this earlier
20110922 21:18:02< Gambit> A distribution basically takes Linux and packs in some programs and settings that they prefer with it.
20110922 21:18:33< Gambit> There's lots and lots and lots of other distributions too
20110922 21:19:20< Gambit> The 11 you keep referencing is the 11th version of Mint
20110922 21:19:41< Kursd> yeah, i was reading up on it earlier but i wasnt in a comprehensive state of mind
20110922 21:19:52< Kursd> oooooooh ic
20110922 21:19:57< Static> Linux is the kernel for the record
20110922 21:20:02< Kursd> rgr
20110922 21:21:26< Kursd> took me long enough last night finding a program to make my usb disk bootable, then finding out why t F it wouldnt boot, come to find out the xp i had wouldnt work so i said f it linux it is, cant be that hard unless you lr 3/4 retarded no offense to none of yall
20110922 21:21:47< Kursd> plus microft is failing me lateley
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20110922 21:23:00< Kursd> well i need to swap batteries, ty for the help
20110922 21:23:14< Kursd> i shall be on here every so often now that i know this is here
20110922 21:23:31< Gambit> Okay...
20110922 21:23:38< Kursd> its working now
20110922 21:23:44< Gambit> Let us know when you want to finish compili- o_O
20110922 21:23:46< Gambit> Huh?
20110922 21:23:53< Gambit> What's working now?
20110922 21:23:59< Kursd> wesnoth
20110922 21:24:04< Kursd> i found a dl on manager
20110922 21:24:30< Kursd> well ill come back in 5 i have to switch batteries im on a laptop
20110922 21:24:42< Gambit> Yeah that's probably better until you get more experience with Linux.
20110922 21:24:46< Gambit> See you.
20110922 21:24:52< Kursd> thank you again again
20110922 21:25:54< Kursd> yeha im half hungover still buzzing, ill get the hang of linux and bug yall when i get the directions and etc down for linux, its not too hard but windows to this is learing a whole new language
20110922 21:26:18< Kursd> very much appreciated, very very much
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20110922 21:27:29< Gambit> We're getting some strange folks around here lately. :)
20110922 21:44:56< Crendgrim> quite entertaining, actually
20110922 21:46:51< KaKiLa> :D
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