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20111006 09:47:34< Ivanovic> moin
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20111006 16:36:46< Espreon> Drakefriend: Hello.
20111006 16:37:07< Drakefriend> Hallo
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20111006 16:38:00< Espreon> Drakefriend: Do you have really extensive knowledge of German... including archaic stuff?
20111006 16:38:16< Drakefriend> Oh yes
20111006 16:38:34< Espreon> Drakefriend: Well, how would you translate "sceptre of fire" into German? I'm curious.
20111006 16:44:26< Drakefriend> I would probably use Feuriges Szepter. First, Szepter is the original spelling, while Zepter, the version used nowadays, is a germanised version of the original greek word. Second, I think using a capitalised adjective sounds better than simple "des Feuers."
20111006 16:44:59< Espreon> Ah, so you'd use the genetive case.
20111006 16:45:03< Espreon> Excellent.
20111006 16:45:48< Ivanovic> *but* it is not clear how the "of" should be used in german
20111006 16:46:14< Ivanovic> in fact it could also mean that is (at least partly) consists of fire, so "Feuriges" might be *really* far off...
20111006 16:46:15< Ivanovic> ;)
20111006 16:46:40< Espreon> I was asking because I'm dealing with things that probably don't have genetive "of".
20111006 16:47:13< Drakefriend> No, I said I would use the adjective, feurig, and capitalized because it is  a set term.
20111006 16:48:01< Espreon> Oh.
20111006 16:48:23< Ivanovic> in fact "feurig" ist a term i would not use in that context
20111006 16:48:59< Drakefriend> Well, in German, the corresponding construction "Y von X" sounds stupid, and it would denote X is made of Y.
20111006 16:51:42< Ivanovic> that is why the term used in the german translation is what comes closest to the "original" meaning without sounding completely wrong like "feurig"
20111006 16:51:48< Drakefriend> I think "Flammen" would sound better than "Feuer". In this case, I would prefer "Flammenszepter" to "Szepter der Flammen".
20111006 16:52:17< Ivanovic> a dance can be "feurig", the same for some spicy food, but an item being feurig is wrong IMO
20111006 16:53:31< Drakefriend> And yes, "of X" is best (easiest) to translate as a genetive.
20111006 16:53:36< Ivanovic> Flammendes Szepter, Entflammtes Szepter, Entflammendes Szepter and stuff like this sounds/fits better (though especially "Entflammtes" assums that it actually *is* burning at that time, which it can be but does not have to be)
20111006 16:53:53< Drakefriend> A
20111006 16:54:43< Drakefriend> Oops. Yes, I think Entflammendes Szepter sounds quite good.
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20111006 20:17:50< mordante> servus
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