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20111002 01:04:48-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 194 bugs, 332 feature requests, 17 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20111002 01:08:20< CIA-7> fendrin * r51354 /trunk/src/reports.cpp: Code cleanups.
20111002 01:10:12< CIA-7> fendrin * r51355 /trunk/data/themes/widescreen.cfg: Widescreen theme useing the right weapons widget.
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20111002 01:19:18< anonymissimus> ok this new bug report of mine will be the death of tokens, hopefully :)
20111002 01:19:31< Espreon> Good luck...
20111002 01:19:49< anonymissimus> you could tyr reproduing as well, Espreon 
20111002 01:20:03< anonymissimus> you have a completely different system
20111002 01:22:13< anonymissimus> that is, I'd be thankful if you can messure a slowdown as well
20111002 01:22:35< Espreon> Well, let's see what we get.
20111002 01:22:57< anonymissimus> such a slowdown is certainly not worth to accept against the speed increase in NR
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20111002 01:27:49< shadowmaster> speed... increase... in NR... what
20111002 01:27:56< shadowmaster> who cares about NR?
20111002 01:28:05< anonymissimus> thonsew
20111002 01:28:18< Espreon> Indeed.
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20111002 01:36:39< anonymissimus> and I just got a message from my OS hinting that we could have a memory leak...
20111002 01:38:21< Espreon> Not surprising.
20111002 01:43:23< AI0867> anonymissimus: #?
20111002 01:51:38< AI0867> ooh
20111002 01:52:33< Espreon> Hmm?
20111002 01:52:45< AI0867> the bug report
20111002 01:52:56< AI0867> wesnoth is now significantly slower than in 1.9.9
20111002 01:53:08< AI0867> anonymissimus: can you make a post to the mailinglist explaining what has happened since 1.9.9 (as thonsew still hasn't), how it currently isn't an improvement and how we should go from here?
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20111002 02:00:06< CIA-7> fendrin * r51356 /trunk/src/reports.cpp: The color of the "total damage" is now based on the "damage with effects" (like tod) instead on the "base damage".
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20111002 02:05:51< Espreon> anonymissimus: I guess it's a bit slower.
20111002 02:06:01< anonymissimus> AI0867: I want that slowdown to be reproduced by 1-2 others two
20111002 02:06:14< anonymissimus> maybe some people with slow harware
20111002 02:06:45< anonymissimus> AI0867: I don't feelm like opening such a ML thread...
20111002 02:07:08< shadowmaster> then we'll probably accomplish nothing
20111002 02:07:21< anonymissimus> actually, no, it is thonsew's task to explain what he did, why should I do his work ?
20111002 02:07:50< shadowmaster> it's not his task to explain why what he did should be reverted
20111002 02:08:56< AI0867> anonymissimus: sufficiently slow hardware that compiling 1.9.9 will take all day?
20111002 02:09:00< AI0867> I'm not kidding here
20111002 02:09:27< anonymissimus> is your hardware so slow ? well, we'll find enough testers I hope
20111002 02:09:31< AI0867> netbook
20111002 02:09:34< AI0867> 900 MHz celeron
20111002 02:09:43< AI0867> my phone is faster
20111002 02:09:55< AI0867> I have other computers here, but not always
20111002 02:11:25< fendrin> AI0867: Cross compiling?
20111002 02:12:41< AI0867> eh, my other laptop's binaries will run on it just fine
20111002 02:12:45< AI0867> they both run squeeze
20111002 02:14:14< AI0867> so it's not as big a problem as I made it out to be, as long as I'm at my parents' place
20111002 02:14:26< AI0867> which, most of the time, I'm not
20111002 02:14:29< anonymissimus> and I don't feel knowledgable enough to suggest a revert; I'm sure I couldn't have made such changes
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20111002 02:15:07< shadowmaster> I am not posting anything until I get to talk with thonsew
20111002 02:15:15< AI0867> good luck with that
20111002 02:15:32< shadowmaster> yeah, he seems to have started to disappear the moment I said I was looking for him
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20111002 02:19:32< AI0867> wesbot: !seen thonsew
20111002 02:19:32< wesbot> AI0867: The person with the nick thonsew last spoke 2d 8h ago.  2d 7h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving
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20111002 03:32:17< CIA-7> fendrin * r51357 /trunk/src/reports.cpp: The attack prediction stats displayed in the sidebars now represent the values for the hex field the attacker would attack from, not the hex field the attacker is currently occupying.
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20111002 03:51:08< AI0867> fendrin: what happened to implementing liminal in WML?
20111002 03:54:47< fendrin> AI0867: The custom alignment system?
20111002 04:00:43< AI0867> yeah
20111002 04:01:29< fendrin> liminal is very nicely implemented in c++ now.
20111002 04:01:36< AI0867> true
20111002 04:01:40< Espreon> A custom alignment system would still be nice.
20111002 04:01:49< AI0867> but I thought that was your plan
20111002 04:03:29< fendrin> First, we would need some [effect] like wml that is not applied once but considerated in each situation.
20111002 04:05:38< fendrin> The wml syntax needs to be defined.
20111002 04:05:59< fendrin> It's a larger task than I first thought. 
20111002 04:08:06< AI0867> yeah, you need an N*M table in some way
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20111002 04:16:33< fendrin> AI0867: n*m table?
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20111002 04:17:56< AI0867> times of day * alignments
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20111002 04:22:58< fendrin> AI0867: I thought more of applying a filter whenever a unit's value is asked that is effected by an [effect]. If that is too slow the filtering needs to be cached somehow.
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20111002 04:31:48< AI0867> the effect would still need up to the entire list of ToDs
20111002 04:31:55< AI0867> so you're just distributing the table
20111002 04:34:37< fendrin> AI0867: Sorry, I am too tired this morning. I like to talk about the custom alignment feature again.
20111002 04:34:44< fendrin> later
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20111002 04:39:59< CIA-7> fendrin * r51358 /trunk/src/reports.cpp: Formated the hp distribution somehow. Still not perfect but I don't know how to make it better.
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20111002 05:41:30< Espreon> Sirp: Hello. What brings you here on this fine eventide?
20111002 05:41:53< un214> electrons?
20111002 05:41:55< Sirp> Espreon: originally to find out that deal with wesnoth.org ... but I do like to check in here now and again. :)
20111002 05:43:42< Espreon> Oh, we're just having DNS issues.
20111002 05:44:13< Sirp> yes, yes.
20111002 05:44:53< shadowmaster> I believe the same thing happened last year at this same time because cyrilb didn't renew the registration
20111002 05:45:17< shadowmaster> in time
20111002 05:45:57< Sirp> ahhh
20111002 05:46:05< Sirp> we cannot have it renewed for multiple years?
20111002 05:46:28< shadowmaster> I have no idea since I barely know who this cyrilb character *is*
20111002 05:47:01< shadowmaster> the last time I saw him was in 2007
20111002 05:48:38< shadowmaster> in fact I wonder why wesnoth.org seems to depend on a donated DNS provider registration instead of having one of the current admins or our legal counterparts (looking at you, right now) manage that
20111002 05:49:18< Sirp> yes, it would be ideal to transfer control of that away from cyrilb.
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20111002 07:28:36< Espreon> shadowmaster: http://imagebin.org/177060 ... Do you think that's fine, or should I make the element a bit smaller?
20111002 07:29:08< Espreon> And yes, it allows as many digits as it did before.
20111002 07:32:13< Espreon> Hmmm, it doesn't really need expansion...
20111002 07:32:20< Espreon> I only expanded it from 80 to 85.
20111002 07:34:11< Espreon> Unexpanded: http://imagebin.org/177061
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20111002 07:37:00 * shadowmaster doesn't know.
20111002 07:37:39< Espreon> Meh, I guess I'll wait for other responses.
20111002 07:38:06< Espreon> I don't feel like dealing with this right now.
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20111002 09:36:32< Ivanovic> moin
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20111002 11:15:56< CIA-7> ivanovic * r51359 /trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): updated Japanese translation
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20111002 11:54:35< Crendgrim> how do you use the -p command?
20111002 11:57:04< Ivanovic> Crendgrim: have you already asked wesnoth --help?
20111002 11:57:07< Ivanovic> or the manpage?
20111002 11:57:36< Ivanovic> sounds rather clear to me
20111002 11:58:05< Crendgrim> --help says "wesnoth -p <file/folder> <output directory>"
20111002 11:58:41< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/zT66F6a6
20111002 11:58:47< Ivanovic> that is what --help of trunk says over here
20111002 11:58:49< Crendgrim> but that doesn't place any files into <output directory> :/
20111002 11:59:07< Crendgrim> right
20111002 12:00:37< Crendgrim> ah, calling it with 1.9.9 gives me some error about "Undefined macro in #ifver/#ifnver first argument" and places two empty files into the target dir...
20111002 12:01:15< Ivanovic> Crendgrim: works nicely over here when trying to do so for two brothers using trunk
20111002 12:01:24< Crendgrim> huh... now it does the same in trunk...
20111002 12:02:05< Crendgrim> why doesn't it know about {WESNOTH_VERSION}?
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20111002 12:05:04< Ivanovic> no idea how this macro should be used
20111002 12:05:12< Ivanovic> you might just be using it in a bad way
20111002 12:05:21< Crendgrim> not really
20111002 12:05:41< Crendgrim> it's the way as described by shadowmaster when he created it
20111002 12:05:42< Ivanovic> changelog:   * Added an engine-defined WESNOTH_VERSION macro that expands to the Wesnoth
20111002 12:05:43< Ivanovic> changelog:     version numbers as in '#ifver WESNOTH_VERSION >= 1.9.5'.
20111002 12:05:51< Crendgrim> and that's exactly as I do it :/
20111002 12:06:08< Ivanovic> then you might ask shadowmaster if something could be broken there
20111002 12:06:10< Crendgrim> and that's working for Wesnoth itself, but it doesn't seem to work for the -p command
20111002 12:06:19< Ivanovic> AHHHHH
20111002 12:06:41< Ivanovic> then write a bug report for this specific case including a sample
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20111002 12:06:59< Crendgrim> alright..
20111002 12:07:20< Ivanovic> it might as well be a case of differing behaviour
20111002 12:08:01< Ivanovic> i think the -p option was implemented by timotei during his first gsoc
20111002 12:09:09< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen timotei
20111002 12:09:10< wesbot> Ivanovic: The person with the nick timotei last spoke 2d 15h ago.  2d 15h ago they left with the message: Quit: SIGKILL
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20111002 13:56:52< fendrin> hello
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20111002 13:57:58< quesadilla>  @fendrin hello
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20111002 14:21:18< fendrin> quesadilla: hi
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20111002 14:31:05< CIA-7> fendrin * r51360 /trunk/src/reports.cpp: Fixed "damage with effect" was calculated for the defender with the position and und unit values (alignment for example) of the attacker.
20111002 14:31:44< fendrin> s/and und/and
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20111002 16:02:26< Crendgrim> wow, I just discovered the .ign file format for Wesnoth ... I wonder why there are no references to it in the manuals. It's a really great feature, actually...
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20111002 16:04:12< Crendgrim> oh, there are references, but rather hidden
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20111002 16:12:33< ulidtko> what's the progress of android multiplayer support?
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20111002 16:34:35< fendrin> ulidtko: It is ready when it is ready :-)
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20111002 16:34:53< ulidtko> :)
20111002 16:35:17< ulidtko> fendrin: is testing public?
20111002 16:36:10< anonymissimus> Crendgrim: can you confirm that leaving out the select event works for your crash ?
20111002 16:36:14< fendrin> ulidtko: I don't know. The android port is not an "official" project of the Wesnoth community.
20111002 16:36:40< ulidtko> oh
20111002 16:36:45< Crendgrim> anonymissimus: see the current version of my campaign, it seems to work now, yes
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20111002 16:38:47< fendrin> ulidtko: cjhopman might answer your questions.
20111002 16:39:09< fendrin> hi zookeeper
20111002 16:39:20< zookeeper> hi
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20111002 17:15:30< AI0867> cjhopman: what is the ../SetEnvironment.sh mentioned in AndroidBuild.sh?
20111002 17:18:44< AI0867> cjhopman: or the java wrapper for that part
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20111002 17:58:37< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: can I add custom defines when compiling with scons; like "scons --extra-defines=SOMETHING" or similar ?
20111002 17:58:55< anonymissimus> should just be passed through to the c++ compiler
20111002 18:00:04< loonycyborg> anonymissimus: extra_flags_release=-Dsomething
20111002 18:02:24< loonycyborg> That will be passed only for release build variant. This meant for tweaks like -march and the like.
20111002 18:13:34< neph> Hi, guys! Whilst sitting home without internet, decided to have fun and develop a small textbased rpg. Built my stuff with make. Question, why would I want to use something like cmake or scons? Tried reading their docs, but it all still looks like some heavy overhead for make
20111002 18:14:09< neph> Btw, I'll get my broadband on the 12th, and will start tackling bugs and teach the AI to defend
20111002 18:16:52< AI0867> if make itself is manageable, that's fine
20111002 18:17:22< loonycyborg> scons is just like make, only with some higher level functionality like header scanning, and different notation.
20111002 18:17:22< AI0867> but when you get to the point where you'd need autotools, you should definitely move
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20111002 18:31:55< anonymissimus> fendrin: btw I'm getting "could not initialize joystick" in my stderr even though I have joystick support disabled
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20111002 18:32:29< fendrin> anonymissimus: stderr? not stdout?
20111002 18:33:08< anonymissimus> yep stderr
20111002 18:33:16< anonymissimus> stderr.txt
20111002 18:33:34< fendrin> anonymissimus: tx, I will fix it.
20111002 18:35:03< anonymissimus> though the bug is that I get such message at all, not where it is
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20111002 18:39:39< fendrin> Who are the experts on the whiteboard? Gabba and ?
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20111002 18:41:23< CIA-7> fendrin * r51361 /trunk/src/game.cpp: Fixed error on stderr when joystick support is disabled.
20111002 18:41:24< fendrin> anonymissimus: ^
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20111002 18:59:39< anonymissimus> anyone: what would be the equivalent to lua's string.format in C++ ? I recall such functions for Microsoft's string classes; std::string lacks it it seems
20111002 19:04:39< Sirp> anonymissimus: stringstreams
20111002 19:05:00< anonymissimus> uh hi Dave, and thx
20111002 19:05:32< anonymissimus> maybe you want to look at some revent changes by thonsew xD
20111002 19:10:20< AI0867> sprintf
20111002 19:10:20< AI0867> mostly
20111002 19:10:20< AI0867> but that's for character arrays
20111002 19:11:27< AI0867> wow that was laggy
20111002 19:11:36< AI0867> I actually answered before I saw sirp's
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20111002 19:16:29< fendrin> hi boucman
20111002 19:16:35< boucman> hey fendrin
20111002 19:16:38< boucman> what's up ?
20111002 19:17:28< fendrin> boucman: My current projects? The most active one is: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=35079
20111002 19:17:45< boucman> damn you dns
20111002 19:18:03< AI0867> shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/204-Wesnoth.org-DNS-issues.html
20111002 19:18:24< AI0867> so far my iceweasel has sucessfully buffered everything
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20111002 19:21:05< shadowmaster> Crendgrim: so it doesn't work with -p only, right?
20111002 19:21:15< Crendgrim> right
20111002 19:21:19< shadowmaster> I guess I'll need to ask timotei how that thing works
20111002 19:21:35< boucman> fendrin: so, what is it in a few word ? :)
20111002 19:23:49< fendrin> boucman: I have added a second sidebar to the left of the screen (it looks to narrow on none widesreens but fits okay on mine which is only 16:10)
20111002 19:23:58< fendrin> boucman: http://imagebin.org/177141
20111002 19:24:03< boucman> is it in trunk ?
20111002 19:24:07< fendrin> boucman: yes
20111002 19:24:11< boucman> looking....
20111002 19:24:23< fendrin> boucman: notice the damage prediction available at toplevel gui.
20111002 19:24:52< boucman> does it disapear when not selecting an ennemy unit ?
20111002 19:25:02< fendrin> yes
20111002 19:25:29< fendrin> The left sidebar is currently the selected unit, the right one is like we are used to.
20111002 19:25:30< shadowmaster> anonymissimus: you could check in src/formatter.hpp if you need something like that for a single line
20111002 19:26:15< boucman> fendrin: that looks great... what happens when you attack a unit at the left border, is it hidden by the panel or does the view scroll ?
20111002 19:26:22< boucman> and if it scrolls what happens to the mouse ?
20111002 19:27:15< fendrin> boucman: hmmm, it is all like ever. I mean the scrollbehaviour on the left is similar to the one on the right.
20111002 19:27:31< boucman> no, i mean...
20111002 19:27:46< boucman> suppose I want to attack a unit which is at the left border of the map...
20111002 19:28:06< boucman> IIUC when my cursor arrives over the ennemy unit, the left panel appears
20111002 19:28:43< boucman> but that would hide the actual unit I want to select under the panel, since the unit is at the left of the viewport
20111002 19:29:12< fendrin> boucman: Ah no. The unit sidebar panels are static. 
20111002 19:29:36< fendrin> boucman: I misunderstood your question where you asked if it disappears. 
20111002 19:29:39< boucman> ok, so they are empty when no secondary unit is selected ?
20111002 19:30:02< fendrin> The left one is empty if no primary unit is selected. And the right one is like ever.
20111002 19:30:16< fendrin> But that may not be the final setup.
20111002 19:32:57< boucman> ok, real-estate is quite precious, so best to spend it wisely... probably keep the left panelrs for some resolutions only (16:10 or wider)
20111002 19:33:20< boucman> and if there is anything usefull to add on the left side, to avoid having it empty too often, taht would be great
20111002 19:34:30< shadowmaster> Crendgrim: meanwhile submit a bug and assign it to me
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20111002 19:34:52< shadowmaster> oh, forgot normal users can't assign bugs. Submit a bug and link me to it so I can assign it to myself
20111002 19:36:22< Crendgrim> shadowmaster: should I prepare a testcase or is it enough to describe it in this case?
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20111002 19:37:08< shadowmaster> just describe it. I'm not that demanding and it's just a reminder for me anyway.
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20111002 19:38:42< AI0867> fendrin: something very strange is happening with the shyde's portrait in the test scenario
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20111002 19:38:53< fendrin> AI0867: I have noticed.
20111002 19:39:03< fendrin> AI0867: There is gold over her head.
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20111002 19:40:15< fendrin> AI0867: "profile="portraits/elves/shyde.png~BLIT(items/gold-coins-large.png)"
20111002 19:40:20< AI0867> ah
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20111002 19:42:15< fendrin> boucman: The old gui0/gui1 systems do not support the recognition of wide/not_wide.
20111002 19:43:12< fendrin> boucman: It is just another theme so people with widescreens can try it. The default theme will be unmodified.
20111002 19:44:12< boucman> I thought theme wml could recognise resolutions... wouldn't hardcoding the most common ones be enough ?
20111002 19:44:32< shadowmaster> anonymissimus: re http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/204-Wesnoth.org-DNS-issues.html#c162, that's precisely why I said Notepad
20111002 19:45:23< shadowmaster> mind you, Kate on Linux is smart enough to not mess with the EOL format of preexisting files and it can also write new files in foreign formats
20111002 19:45:47< CIA-7> espreon * r51362 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Replaced hyphen-minus with the Unicode minus in the in-game income element.
20111002 19:46:09< fendrin> boucman: It can ... But not the proportion. So I can say every screen above 1280 will have a second sidebar. But that is not necessarily a widescreen. And it's not that pretty on non widescreens.
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20111002 19:46:40< boucman> fendrin: would it be hard to add ? i'm not sure who has a good knowledge of themewml
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20111002 19:47:05< shadowmaster> nobody, atm
20111002 19:48:31< fendrin> boucman: I am firm in using it but not on the c++ backside. Anyway I do not think that is a good idea. Mordante will make the whole game gui2 one day and until then the separate theme is fine enough for my feelings.
20111002 19:49:11< boucman> ok, fair enough
20111002 19:49:14< shadowmaster> I think you shouldn't let that stop you since "one day" will probably be in two to six years
20111002 19:49:55< shadowmaster> (TBH I don't see how GUI2 is suited for the gamemap view right now, either. Perhaps you should add an extra year to that estimate.)
20111002 19:50:34< Espreon> fendrin: In your widescreen theme, if the selected unit doesn't have a portrait, the sprite in the portrait view doesn't get TCed.
20111002 19:50:36< Crendgrim> shadowmaster: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?18777
20111002 19:51:35< shadowmaster> Crendgrim: thanks
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20111002 20:08:52< fendrin> Espreon: please show me a screenshot :-)
20111002 20:09:08< Espreon> OK.
20111002 20:09:14< Espreon> Just a min'.
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20111002 20:10:07< CIA-7> espreon * r51363 /trunk/src/reports.cpp: Replace hyphen-minus with Unicode minus when the text is to be greyed.
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20111002 20:11:07 * shadowmaster ...
20111002 20:11:47< Gambit> Espreon's commits are my favorite.
20111002 20:12:11< Espreon> Gambit: Awwww...
20111002 20:15:27< Espreon> fendrin: http://imagebin.org/177147
20111002 20:17:19< fendrin> Espreon: Thanks.
20111002 20:17:26< Espreon> No prob.
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20111002 20:47:59< beetlenaut> test
20111002 20:50:49< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: well, I once messed up my boot.ini that way without a chance to revert...luckily, I had a backup ;)
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20111002 21:06:13< anonymissimus> Espreon: are you sure you have the neccessary knowledge for such a C++ commit ? :P
20111002 21:06:34< Espreon> Yes.
20111002 21:07:00< Espreon> All other things are scary as hell.
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20111002 21:24:52< CIA-7> elvish_hunter * r51364 /trunk/data/lua/wml-tags.lua: [find_path]: ignore_visibility -> check_visibility; ignore_units -> check_zoc; ignore_teleport -> check_teleport
20111002 21:25:26< Espreon> Elvish_Hunter: Ciao.
20111002 21:25:50< Elvish_Hunter> Espreon (and everyone else): ciao!
20111002 21:25:59< Elvish_Hunter> Seen my commit above?
20111002 21:26:26< Espreon> I saw it.
20111002 21:26:34< Elvish_Hunter> Now I should update the wiki, but how? wesnoth.org still gives me an error...
20111002 21:26:55< Espreon> Elvish_Hunter: http://is.gd/3nmXJp
20111002 21:27:09< Espreon> I'll be back in a bit.
20111002 21:30:00< Elvish_Hunter> IMHO, it's better if I wait until said issue is solved, to edit the wiki.
20111002 21:30:30< shadowmaster> it's solved already
20111002 21:31:06< Elvish_Hunter> shadowmaster: nope, at least with my ISP.
20111002 21:31:08< shadowmaster> it will still take some time for the new DNS records to propagate across the globe, of course
20111002 21:31:41< shadowmaster> but the registration has been renewed, which is really the only thing that matters
20111002 21:31:43< Elvish_Hunter> Yeah, I read the IRC logs. For a moment, I thought of using OpenDNS...
20111002 21:32:31< Elvish_Hunter> True. By the way, any news about the [harm_unit] bug?
20111002 21:33:02< shadowmaster> the news is that I can't reproduce it, I'm not interested on reproducing it either, and the screenshot Espreon passed around was not meant to be turned into a bug report
20111002 21:33:29< Elvish_Hunter> OK. Thanks.
20111002 21:34:27< Elvish_Hunter> I was asking because I'm intentioned to add support for $this_unit to [harm_unit], and I already managed to do this for the amount= key.
20111002 21:35:08< shadowmaster> what's $this_unit?
20111002 21:35:35< Elvish_Hunter> A special variable that refers to the filtered unit.
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20111002 21:36:37< Elvish_Hunter> For example, if you want to harm Galas to 1 HP, you may write "$($this_unit.hitpoints)-1" - untested.
20111002 21:36:40< shadowmaster> sounds like syntactic sugar to me, of the dangerous kind
20111002 21:37:12< shadowmaster> wait, but harming him by his current HP with kill=no is supposed to leave him at 1 HP too
20111002 21:37:19< Elvish_Hunter> It's just FAI syntax, and [modify_unit] already supports this.
20111002 21:37:46< Elvish_Hunter> If you want to drop every unit to 10 HP this may be useful.
20111002 21:38:00< Espreon> Back.
20111002 21:38:01< shadowmaster> I presume $this_unit isn't implemented as a FAI-only element
20111002 21:38:18< Elvish_Hunter> By the way, nobody is enforced to use it. Backward compltibility will be kept.
20111002 21:38:27< Elvish_Hunter> *compatibility
20111002 21:38:37< shadowmaster> that's not what concerns me, actually
20111002 21:39:08< shadowmaster> it's just that last time I checked (1.7.x?) auto-stored variables were implemented in a really messy way and some memory corruption bugs popped up from time to time
20111002 21:39:17< Elvish_Hunter> OK.
20111002 21:40:01< shadowmaster> of course that doesn't concern me directly anymore since the lua fanatics took over that ... uh...so... yeah
20111002 21:40:19< Elvish_Hunter> I suppose that this shouldn't happen in Lua, as I'll use just wml_actions.store_unit ...
20111002 21:42:43< Elvish_Hunter> And of course, I won't commit this immediatly, as I want to test it for good.
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20111002 21:52:36< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: hm, the $this_unit in modify_unit etc have probably little to do with auto-stored wml variables in C++ code
20111002 21:53:05< anonymissimus> it solely relies on wesnoth.set_variable
20111002 21:57:59< AI0867> it used to be autostored variables
20111002 21:58:07< AI0867> but then the tag was moved from C++ to lua
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20111002 21:59:40< anonymissimus> it was never moved, I wrote modify_unit in lua from the start
20111002 22:01:39< AI0867> oh, right, it used to be MODIFY_UNIT
20111002 22:01:46< AI0867> I must be remembering some other tag
20111002 22:01:58< fendrin> Espreon: hi
20111002 22:03:42< Espreon> fendrin: Hello.
20111002 22:04:40< Elvish_Hunter> I just started HttT on Hard, and I got this: Invalid WML found: [item] missing required image= and halo= attributes.
20111002 22:05:00< Elvish_Hunter> 1.9.9 svn, 51293M.
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20111002 22:05:37< anonymissimus> aha maybe that was the reason thonsew modified that tag
20111002 22:06:04< anonymissimus> but anyway, these attributes are required (one of them)
20111002 22:06:11< AI0867> yeah, he simply removed that error
20111002 22:06:18< anonymissimus> if its not passed there's a bug somewhere else
20111002 22:06:21< AI0867> in a completely unrelated commit of course
20111002 22:06:32< anonymissimus> exactly
20111002 22:07:10< anonymissimus> I suspect that some of his bugfixes may paper over the real bugs as well
20111002 22:10:25< anonymissimus> Elvish_Hunter: well, it seems that some of the [item] calls in HIGHLIGHTE_IMAGE do no longer work like they should
20111002 22:10:39< anonymissimus> probably due to the token stuff
20111002 22:11:12< Elvish_Hunter> Well, currently I cannot check, as I'm preparing another report.
20111002 22:12:08< anonymissimus> omg really, how can he even dare to change some code at an unrelated spot to paper over a bug introduced by something else ???
20111002 22:12:39< Elvish_Hunter> anonymissimus: I posted this: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?18778
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20111002 22:25:57< anonymissimus> ok this item issue is the worst thing I've by a coder since long
20111002 22:26:22< anonymissimus> good that I reverted it so we caught himi "naked" another time
20111002 22:27:08< anonymissimus> his new config code seems to not recognize attributes  correclty if they come from a macro attribute expansion
20111002 22:27:31< anonymissimus> the old code passedan empty string later to lua, the new one passed nil
20111002 22:28:18< anonymissimus> this can of course break any existing custom tag out there, but what does he do ? ne hides the bug by modifying [item], instead of fixing the config code
20111002 22:28:34< AI0867> so revert it
20111002 22:28:43< anonymissimus> I already reverted it
20111002 22:29:05< anonymissimus> thats why Elvish_Hunter noticed it now
20111002 22:30:38< AI0867> I'm not referring to the coverup, but the bug
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20111002 22:32:28< anonymissimus> I want shadowmaster to talk with him and post first, then I will reply
20111002 22:32:59< anonymissimus> he will come for 20 mins and dcommit his stuff, you need to be quick ;)
20111002 22:34:01< anonymissimus> but this issue is so bad that I can describe it as an example; I dont think he did that really "untentionally" however
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20111002 23:13:31< anonymissimus> strange enough, I con't seem to reproduce the [item] bug consistently
20111002 23:14:03< anonymissimus> Elvish_Hunter: pls post it, and I can add a coment about papering over the real bug
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