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20111005 00:12:48< anonymissimus> timotei: maybe pastebin a screenshot of what plugins you've got installed; or show me a way to finc out which package I need to install depending on the "unresolved error", since it's probably caused by me having a different eclipse version
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20111005 00:31:41< anonymissimus> timotei: and note that xtext sdk is installed, only some stuff is unresolved...maybe its too old, are you using an updated eclipse version ?
20111005 00:31:56< anonymissimus> I give up on it for now
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20111005 01:04:48-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 199 bugs, 333 feature requests, 17 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20111005 01:05:44< AI0867> noy: sloccount? that's just a utility though.
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20111005 01:55:16< Gloudas> hey guys. I'm a programmer and I'm trying to start making some contributions to wesnoth -- I've been reading over the easy coding page at http://wiki.wesnoth.org/EasyCoding ... I'm wondering how up to date that page is?
20111005 02:04:39< Espreon> Gloudas: Just don't bother with anything FAI-related.
20111005 02:08:17< Gloudas> alright thanks. Other than browsing that page, would perusing the bugs list for manageable bugs be a good place to start?
20111005 02:08:55< Espreon> Yup.
20111005 02:09:33< Espreon> Gloudas: Maybe also look at some FRs.
20111005 02:11:16< Gloudas> Espreon: Alright, I imagine most would be beyond me without a better understanding of the whole codebase but I'll look for FR's I think I could do as well. If I'm having questions regarding a certain bug or feature fix I'm working on, is this IRC a good place to ask for help or would there be a better place?
20111005 02:12:08< Espreon> This'd be *the* place.
20111005 02:12:27< Alarantalara> Another possibility would be to fix up some of the In Progress patches so they work against trunk again
20111005 02:12:35< Espreon> Note that this channel is much more active when it's day in Europe.
20111005 02:15:16< Gloudas> Alarantalara: I thought the in progress patches were handled exclusively by the devs?
20111005 02:15:34< Espreon> Well, sometimes, they forget about them...
20111005 02:15:55< Espreon> ... and they get so neglected that they become unappliable.
20111005 02:17:04< Alarantalara> See the comments on this one for example: https://gna.org/patch/?1381
20111005 02:19:25< Gloudas> Alright I'll check those out at well -- what's the best indication that a patch has been "forgotten" about? Mainly the comments?
20111005 02:20:43< Espreon> And the dates...
20111005 02:23:37< Gloudas> Alright, I'll start looking through everything and try to tackle some stuff. Thanks for the help
20111005 02:25:58< Espreon> No prob.
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20111005 09:28:29< Ivanovic> moin
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20111005 17:56:58< oldtopmanserver> What do I have to edit to get BfW to play at 1024x525 fullscreen/windowed?
20111005 17:57:07< oldtopmanserver> It only goes to 800x600
20111005 17:58:56< loonycyborg> Are you passing --smallgui or something?
20111005 17:59:36< loonycyborg> By default it maximizes to any size.
20111005 17:59:58< loonycyborg> And 800x600 is the lowest res that can be set in preferences.
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20111005 18:22:48< CIA-7> anonymissimus * r51386 /trunk/data/lua/wml-tags.lua: (log message trimmed)
20111005 18:22:49< CIA-7> Add support to capture_village for [filter_side]#SSF.
20111005 18:22:49< CIA-7> Since capture_village already has an inline SLF, I don't want to add
20111005 18:22:49< CIA-7> a SSF at the same level since keys and tags could conflict in the future.
20111005 18:22:49< CIA-7> In case that both inline side= and [filter_side] are present,
20111005 18:22:50< CIA-7> emit an error.
20111005 18:22:50< CIA-7> Not sure whether inline side= should be deprecated; no need to break
20111005 18:23:02< CIA-7> anonymissimus * r51387 /trunk/changelog: changelog update
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20111005 18:25:35< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: btw is this ok/the preferred way to add/guard some debugging code, that is, C++ code which is only useful for some dev, as I did in r51370
20111005 18:26:49< anonymissimus> "enableable" by passing extra_flag_debug=DEBUG_LUA in scons for instance, and the complete code and include guarded by that define
20111005 18:27:30< loonycyborg> Sure. At least mordante done that in the past iirc.
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20111005 18:29:01< anonymissimus> yep, I took inspiration from gui/widgets/debug.hpp/cpp
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20111005 18:39:37< anonymissimus> zookeeper: what ya say about such a change to capture village as in r51386; the way it's now has the advantage that I can maintain full backwards compatibility, however, the description of how to use the tag is pretty confusing...
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20111005 19:19:57< zookeeper> anonymissimus, looking...
20111005 19:20:11< zookeeper> wesbot, log 51386
20111005 19:20:12< wesbot> anonymissimus * r51386 : Add support to capture_village for [filter_side]#SSF.Since capture_village already has an inline SLF, I don't want to adda SSF at the same level since keys and tags could conflict in the future.In case that both inline side= and [filter_side] are present,emit an error.Not sure whether inline side= should be deprecated; no need to breakbackwards compatibility for now.
20111005 19:20:18< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=51386
20111005 19:21:49< zookeeper> anonymissimus, what's the point of that change?
20111005 19:22:14< zookeeper> oh, right
20111005 19:23:19< zookeeper> maybe i should read before asking
20111005 19:24:49< zookeeper> anyway, i think the new behaviour seems sensible. i don't have a problem with some tags being able to take _either_ side= or [filter_side]
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20111005 19:52:51< CIA-7> timotei * r51388 /trunk/src/game.cpp: Add the WESNOTH_VERSION define to the --preprocess option
20111005 19:52:56< timotei> anonymissimus: ^
20111005 19:52:57< timotei> :P
20111005 19:53:03< timotei> Please check and tell me if it works now
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20111005 20:01:52< timotei> anonymissimus: wrt to the plugin, yeah. You need xtext 2.0
20111005 20:02:28< timotei> And Eclipse Indigo :P
20111005 20:02:40< timotei> Hopefully I won't need to bump the reqs again ...
20111005 20:02:47< timotei> It's said everything in the dev_manual
20111005 20:03:10< timotei> make manual in utils/umc_dev
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20111005 20:07:15< CIA-7> espreon * r51389 /trunk/doc/manual/manual.txt: Added a couple of commas.
20111005 20:10:58< CIA-7> espreon * r51390 /trunk/doc/manual/manual.txt: Another comma...
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20111005 20:23:15< CIA-7> espreon * r51391 /trunk/Doxyfile: Updated project version number in Doxyfile.
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20111005 20:48:37< anonymissimus> zookeeper: alright
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20111005 20:49:37< anonymissimus> timotei: and what about the link to the readme on the project's homepage ? that one isnt updated yet I guess...uh I'm afraid of "making" something...
20111005 20:52:59< anonymissimus> timotei: the WESNOTH_VERSION thing wasn't me
20111005 20:53:18< timotei> anonymissimus: the homepage is still 1.3 :P
20111005 20:53:19< timotei> trunk is 2.0
20111005 20:53:44< timotei> anonymissimus: didn't you try to use that --preprocesses on the addon and got an error that WESNOTH_VERSION was not defined? :)
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20111005 21:02:28< shadowmaster> timotei: that was Crendgrim 
20111005 21:02:46< timotei> shadowmaster: ah... Yeah. Thanks
20111005 21:02:49< timotei> Crendgrim: ^^
20111005 21:02:58< Crendgrim> timotei: right
20111005 21:02:59< shadowmaster> where does --preprocess take its built-in define list from?
20111005 21:03:16< Crendgrim> ah, give me a minute to recompile
20111005 21:03:21< timotei> shadowmaster: well, just the WESNOTH_VERSION is hardcoded for now. THe rest is taken from data/core
20111005 21:03:42< timotei> I should enhance the --preprocess-defines to allow key=value pairs
20111005 21:04:24< shadowmaster> timotei: are you aware that you fixed a filed bug assigned to me?
20111005 21:04:36< timotei> shadowmaster: no?
20111005 21:04:46< shadowmaster> that's what you just did
20111005 21:04:52< timotei> I didn't even know about a bug :P
20111005 21:05:05< shadowmaster> it was in the same logs where you read the WESNOTH_VERSION thing
20111005 21:05:15< timotei> Ah...
20111005 21:05:18< timotei> I must have skipped it.
20111005 21:05:19< timotei> This? https://gna.org/bugs/?18777
20111005 21:05:20< shadowmaster> now it's your task to add a changelog entry and mark it as fixed
20111005 21:05:31< timotei> ok...
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20111005 21:06:02< timotei> bug fixes go in the player_changelog?
20111005 21:06:04< shadowmaster> and assign it to yourself
20111005 21:06:07< timotei> Or just changelo
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20111005 21:06:36< shadowmaster> the bug number does in the changelog as you can see from previous examples, and if the bug fix is significant enough for *players* (rather that content creators), its description goes into p_c too
20111005 21:06:42< shadowmaster> s/does/goes/
20111005 21:06:51< timotei> ok thanks
20111005 21:07:09< shadowmaster> I can tell you have never used the changelogs before.
20111005 21:07:48< timotei> I have used :P But I'm not sure of the player vs non-player differentation ;)
20111005 21:08:09< timotei> (cf: utils/umc_dev/changelog
20111005 21:08:54< shadowmaster> I don't use the IDE nor its changelogs
20111005 21:13:46< timotei> Crendgrim: just let me know if it works, so I can update the changelog
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20111005 21:16:30< Crendgrim> timotei: yes, it works now
20111005 21:16:36< timotei> Ok. Good
20111005 21:16:40< Crendgrim> thanks a lot :)
20111005 21:16:46< timotei> YW
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20111005 21:18:57< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: I'm not sure whether we should include bugfixes in the changelog...
20111005 21:19:17< shadowmaster> I am not sure whether you have ever read the changelog either.
20111005 21:19:31< anonymissimus> I have
20111005 21:19:37< timotei> anonymissimus: the changelog *should* contain bug fixes. But I didn't know about the player one :P
20111005 21:19:40< timotei> player's*
20111005 21:20:15< anonymissimus> I mean, putting every little bugfix there can make it unreadable
20111005 21:20:18< shadowmaster> players who only read the p_c will be glad to know that some bug causing random enemy Yetis to spawn in Morituri was fixed.
20111005 21:20:30< shadowmaster> I said "significant enough" above, for that matter
20111005 21:20:36< timotei> Yeah 
20111005 21:20:42< anonymissimus> yes, thats probably sort of a bug I would put there
20111005 21:20:45< shadowmaster> now, the main changelog? that's supposed to be more difficult to read on purpose
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20111005 21:21:25< shadowmaster> as a WML content maker I'd certainly appreciate to know some bug causing custom color ranges to always be parsed as pink,pink,pink,pnik was fixed
20111005 21:21:32< CIA-7> timotei * r51392 /trunk/changelog: Update the changelog with "Fix bug #18777"
20111005 21:21:33< shadowmaster> *pink
20111005 21:23:59< timotei> Well.. I'm out to resize the windows partition
20111005 21:24:00< timotei> later
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20111005 21:24:32< shadowmaster> thats suicide, I tell you, suicide!
20111005 21:24:47< Espreon> Yeah.
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20111005 21:32:06< Gambit> It's not...
20111005 21:32:15< Gambit> as long as you defrag first, and reboot into Windows afterwards.
20111005 21:34:37< shadowmaster> I don't think the defragging is strictly necessary anymore, but I consider it suicidal to resize a partition rather than kill it in general because there's so much that can go wrong in the process.
20111005 21:34:45< shadowmaster> like a blackout.
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20111005 21:39:24< Gambit> It's more necessary than ever.
20111005 21:39:52< Gambit> In an effort to stop you from shrinking the partition and installing other OS's, they've started placing system files in the middle of the partition.
20111005 21:40:06< Gambit> And they
20111005 21:40:09< shadowmaster> nuh-huh
20111005 21:40:24< Gambit> And they've castrated their built in defragging tools to not fix that.
20111005 21:40:29< shadowmaster> the pagefile has always had that uncanny tendency to be allocated in middle of the partition 
20111005 21:40:51< shadowmaster> well, always since Windows 95 anyway
20111005 21:40:56< Gambit> Right. My second statement was the recent development.
20111005 21:41:05< shadowmaster> it's not recent either.
20111005 21:41:25< Gambit> I had buy a third party tool and it ran for nearly two days solid :(
20111005 21:41:26< shadowmaster> the built-in defraggers have never been gifted with the ability to move the pagefile.
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20111005 21:41:49< shadowmaster> not even the Windows 95 defrag tool.
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20111005 21:42:21< shadowmaster> I believe your third party tool is one of those that need to run in native mode before Win32 is started
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20111005 22:04:40< oldtopmanserver> loonycyborg: Sorry for the late reply, but I'm trying to run this on a tablet with a rather small screen.
20111005 22:05:08< oldtopmanserver> Every time I resize it to 1024x525 in the command line, it changes it to 800x600
20111005 22:05:48< loonycyborg> The resolution of that small screen is 1024x525?
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20111005 22:07:43< oldtopmanserver> Technically, its larger, but the onscreen keyboard (which cannot be removed) eats the bottom of the screen.
20111005 22:07:44< oldtopmanserver> :S
20111005 22:09:10< oldtopmanserver> I heard I could edit default.cfg in /data/themes, but I cannot find that folder.
20111005 22:09:15 * oldtopmanserver is using debian
20111005 22:09:20< oldtopmanserver> loonycyborg:
20111005 22:09:51< loonycyborg> Anyway, on my desktop I can resize it however I can.
20111005 22:10:18< oldtopmanserver> What version?
20111005 22:10:27< loonycyborg> trunk
20111005 22:10:34< oldtopmanserver> erm
20111005 22:10:43< oldtopmanserver> that would be latest/nightly IIRC
20111005 22:11:21< oldtopmanserver> So you can get it to 1024x525?
20111005 22:11:40< oldtopmanserver> And it won't complain about settings and revert to 800x600?
20111005 22:11:52< loonycyborg> Yes.
20111005 22:12:03< oldtopmanserver> :S
20111005 22:12:07< loonycyborg> What exactly is its message?
20111005 22:12:15< oldtopmanserver> let me fetch that for ya.
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20111005 22:19:38< oldtopman> sorreh to leave you waiting
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20111005 22:21:48< oldtopman> loonycyborg, Here is the error
20111005 22:22:16< oldtopman> "checking video mode 1024x600x32"
20111005 22:22:39< oldtopman> "setting mode to 1024x600x32"
20111005 22:23:09< oldtopman> The options I used are "wesnoth -r 1024x525
20111005 22:23:15< oldtopman> ideas?
20111005 22:24:39< loonycyborg> It says 'setting mode to 1024x525x32' for me:P
20111005 22:25:05< oldtopman> :s
20111005 22:26:32< loonycyborg> And you tried both with -w and -f?
20111005 22:27:01< oldtopman> no -f, but its windoed already
20111005 22:27:08< oldtopman> windowed*
20111005 22:27:55< oldtopman> Unless you can compile an ARM version for me, it looks like it's over :<
20111005 22:28:02< loonycyborg> Maybe in fullscreen it will be better?
20111005 22:28:31< oldtopman> okay
20111005 22:28:44< oldtopman> complainjng ahout ..bpp 0
20111005 22:28:51< oldtopman> going to try that
20111005 22:30:53< oldtopman> hrm
20111005 22:31:43< noy> wesbot: seen crab?
20111005 22:31:43< oldtopman> loonycyborg, It goes through the modes and says that 800x600x0 isn-t supported. Zit then asks me to use --windowed
20111005 22:31:44< wesbot> noy: Sorry, I don't know of crab.
20111005 22:31:50< noy> wesbot: seen crab_?
20111005 22:31:51< wesbot> noy: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 19d 1h ago.  18d 19h ago they left with the message: Quit: Do it for joy and you can do it forever
20111005 22:31:59< noy> crud
20111005 22:32:05 * oldtopman rage at the lousy touchscreen keyhoard
20111005 22:32:27< oldtopman> noy: whowas?
20111005 22:33:11< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen crab__
20111005 22:33:11< wesbot> shadowmaster: Sorry, I don't know of crab__.
20111005 22:33:26< noy> shadowmaster: 19 days seems about right
20111005 22:33:46< shadowmaster> he was yesterday as Crab___, actually
20111005 22:34:00< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen Crab___
20111005 22:34:00< noy> wesbot: seen Crab__
20111005 22:34:00< wesbot> shadowmaster: The person with the nick Crab___ 21h 25m ago they left with the message: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
20111005 22:34:03< wesbot> noy: Sorry, I don't know of Crab__.
20111005 22:34:10< noy> hm
20111005 22:34:19< oldtopman> xD
20111005 22:34:39< oldtopman> Where is /data/themes in wesnoth?
20111005 22:35:08< shadowmaster> in the read-only data directory
20111005 22:35:22< oldtopman> >.<
20111005 22:35:34< shadowmaster> check the first "Data directory:" in the Wesnoth console output during startup
20111005 22:35:37< oldtopman> which is...
20111005 22:35:43< oldtopman> ah
20111005 22:39:14< oldtopman> hrm
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20111005 22:53:23< loonycyborg> oldtopman: http://sdl.beuc.net/sdl.wiki/SDL_VideoModeOK <- this is the sdl call that creates trouble for you :P
20111005 22:55:07< oldtopman> loonycyborg, how do I fix it?
20111005 22:56:18< loonycyborg> Does it even print 'checking video mode 1024x525x32' for you?
20111005 22:57:02< oldtopman> it prints "checking vicdeo mode 1024x600x32"
20111005 22:57:34< loonycyborg> Unless I'm missing something it should at least try to check  1024x525x32 in current trunk.
20111005 22:57:59< loonycyborg> Maybe worked differently in your version of wesnoth..
20111005 22:58:31 * oldtopman is running w.8
20111005 22:58:38< oldtopman> er 1.8
20111005 23:00:07< loonycyborg> detect_video_settings() seems to be the same in 1.8+svn
20111005 23:01:13< loonycyborg> No idea why would it suddenly use 1024x600x32 instead of -r setting
20111005 23:01:48< loonycyborg> Though that evokes deja vu feeling somehow.
20111005 23:02:03< loonycyborg> Maybe something about that was on the dev ML?
20111005 23:02:38< oldtopman> hrm
20111005 23:02:49< oldtopman> I don"t 
20111005 23:03:15< oldtopman> suppose you could buile me an arm wesnoth ;)
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20111005 23:06:03< oldtopman> loonycyborg, Cojld you send me your default.cfg?
20111005 23:08:49< oldtopman> loonycyborg?
20111005 23:10:34< oldtopman> noooooooo
20111005 23:15:28< oldtopman> hrm
20111005 23:15:46< oldtopman> I'll wager thats the problem
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20111005 23:19:10< lansiir> loonycyborg: Just tried it on my desktop, it went to 1024x768 rather than 1024x525
20111005 23:19:22< lansiir> CLI and everything said 1024x768 :S
20111005 23:23:09< loonycyborg> And what exact version was that?
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20111005 23:26:32< loonycyborg> No idea which default.cfg you mean.. There are lots of them :P
20111005 23:26:53< loonycyborg> Anyway, I'm pretty sure there aren't any changes compared to svn.
20111005 23:26:55< loonycyborg> afk again
20111005 23:31:38< lansiir> The default.cfg in data/themes
20111005 23:31:58< lansiir> My desktop runs...1.9.7
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20111005 23:53:09< anonymissimus> wesbot: seen thonsew
20111005 23:53:09< wesbot> anonymissimus: The person with the nick thonsew last spoke 6d 5h ago.  6d 5h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving
20111005 23:53:57< anonymissimus> I played with git and how we could best get rid of the token stuff...am tired of resolving merge conflicts now ;)
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20111005 23:55:23< anonymissimus> branching at the latest stable revision and every author porting his own revisions appears feasible for me; there's too many revisions which interact with thonsew's changes it seems...
20111005 23:56:06< anonymissimus> and too many different authors, just reverting all of thonsew's revisions is way not enough
20111005 23:56:47< shadowmaster> A certain person I talked with seemed to have a revert plan already.
20111005 23:57:35< anonymissimus> I hope you don't mean me :|
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20111005 23:58:00< shadowmaster> no
20111005 23:58:13< anonymissimus> good :)
20111005 23:59:56< anonymissimus> I wonder why i get such a lot of unneccessary conflicts in teh changelog though, and git seems way not as intelligent as I'd like it to be
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