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20111010 00:06:14< AI0867> gah
20111010 00:07:01< AI0867> looks like thonsew replaced silene's boost::variant work with his own implementation, using C-style bitfields
20111010 00:09:33< loonycyborg> Where exactly?
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20111010 00:19:31< AI0867> loonycyborg: config.hpp:200 or so
20111010 00:24:14< AI0867> he also has a habit of removing the usage of resources.hpp and converting functions back to using a huge list of arguments
20111010 00:25:23< AI0867> anyway, I'm compiling now
20111010 00:25:49< AI0867> if I'm reasonably lucky, I'll have a commitable 20k+ line revert coming up
20111010 00:26:15< shadowmaster>  \o/
20111010 00:26:42< shadowmaster> just as planned
20111010 00:29:03< anonymissimus> *thumbs up*
20111010 00:31:34< anonymissimus> how did you cope with the conflicts, such as the one with the event handler in game_events.cpp ?
20111010 00:31:53< loonycyborg> r51056 sure is gnarly.
20111010 00:33:16< loonycyborg> I think this guy is taking optimization way too far :P
20111010 00:35:50< anonymissimus> we'll need to check through the all the bugs as well...many will have never existed, some others are valid again probably
20111010 00:36:36< loonycyborg> From my simple tests 10000000 string comparisons of 10 letter strings are faster than 10000000 comparisons of boost::flyweight handles from them.
20111010 00:37:10< loonycyborg> So at least the suggestion to use flyweights instead from the ML seems ill-adviced.
20111010 00:37:58< loonycyborg> However flyweight handles give a win for vectors of strings.
20111010 00:39:31< loonycyborg> All in all operations on std::strings are *way* faster than one might think.
20111010 00:43:14< Ivanovic> strings are heavily used, so they *are* a target for optimization
20111010 00:44:31< Ivanovic> AI0867: it would be great if you could run an svn copy into branches before commiting your huge bunch of reverts
20111010 00:44:49< Ivanovic> this way thonsew has some place where to easily continue the stuff
20111010 00:45:13< shadowmaster> public (especially SVN) branches are pretty much worthless IME due to the lack of an easy mechanism to rebase them
20111010 00:45:41< Ivanovic> svn copy svn+ssh://USERNAME@svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/trunk svn+ssh://USERNAME@svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/branches/thonsew_optimization
20111010 00:45:53< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: yeah, but they are at least *some* place to work with
20111010 00:46:13< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: though for some hardcore refactoring like this there are probably no solutions working perfectly
20111010 00:46:28< shadowmaster> I have some reservations about his ability to help us in the first place, anyway
20111010 00:46:51< Ivanovic> anyway, time for me to get some sleep, n8
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20111010 00:51:17< AI0867> Ivanovic: you can specify a revision for those, no need to do it beforehand
20111010 00:52:28< AI0867> anonymissimus: lots of handwork
20111010 00:52:39< AI0867> I seem to also be reverting your set -> vector changes in there
20111010 00:52:48< AI0867> couldn't get a clean diff otherwise, sorry
20111010 00:53:26< AI0867> looks like I did the same thing for DBG_EH
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20111010 01:05:50< anonymissimus> AI0867: I wouldn't mind to re-work+commit some revisions if only we get this token stuff out of the engine
20111010 01:06:09< AI0867> anonymissimus: k, well, there may be mangled remains left =/
20111010 01:06:15< AI0867> of your work, that is
20111010 01:06:53< anonymissimus> maybe it would have been better to not make one giant revert revision ?
20111010 01:07:52< AI0867> the reverts weren't always clean, I don't think half of the intermediary states would have compiled
20111010 01:08:38< anonymissimus> um that doesnt sound too good :(
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20111010 01:09:41< anonymissimus> maybe better whenever you get a conflict, indentify the later revision which causes it, revert it too, and notify its author or so...
20111010 01:09:53< AI0867> that was mainly thonsew's files, I somtimes had no idea what his commits were supposed to do, and no patience for figuring it out as the file would be deleted anyway
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20111010 04:43:48< CIA-7> ai0867 * r51426 /trunk/ (152 files in 24 dirs): Revert token t_token commits from r51053 on.
20111010 04:49:35< Espreon> AI0867: CMake's still looking for token.cpp
20111010 04:52:22< AI0867> lemme fix that
20111010 04:52:50< AI0867> looks like thonsew didn't make that change
20111010 04:52:55< AI0867> so my revert didn't catch it
20111010 04:54:05< CIA-7> ai0867 * r51427 /trunk/src/CMakeLists.txt: Remove token.cpp from cmake
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20111010 05:36:04< AI0867> the unit tests fail now, but that's because mordante re-enabled a networking test
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20111010 09:54:29< Ivanovic> moin
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20111010 11:19:54< CIA-64> elvish_hunter * r51428 /trunk/data/lua/wml-tags.lua: [harm_unit] cannot longer poison not living units
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20111010 12:23:01< CIA-64> ivanovic * r51430 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth/pt_BR.po): updated Portuguese (Brazil) translation
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20111010 14:27:40< CIA-64> espreon * r51431 /trunk/data/core/macros/utils.cfg: Fixed ATTACK_DEPTH4.
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20111010 16:53:59< anonymissimus> Espreon: the one-liner in r51426 in 02_Across_the_Harsh_Sands.cfg looks like an accidentally reverted innocent bugfix, have a look pls
20111010 17:22:37< AI0867> anonymissimus: looks like you're probably right
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20111010 17:35:44< anonymissimus> AI0867: good job overall probably; although you took quite some innocent commits away too :(
20111010 17:36:46< anonymissimus> I've gone through the bugs a bit until the token stuff was first introduced
20111010 17:39:34< anonymissimus> wesbot: topic
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20111010 18:57:51< timotei21> wesbot: log r51056
20111010 18:57:53< wesbot> thonsew * r51056 : Changed config and vconfig to use an token representation t_token in place of std::string.  t_token compares, copies, copy constructs and hashes in 1 operation instead of proportional to the length of the string.
20111010 18:57:57< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=51056
20111010 19:03:21< timotei21> 20111010 00:33:16< loonycyborg> I think this guy is taking optimization way too far :P
20111010 19:03:42< timotei21> nobody except anonymissimus, gabba and shadowmaster looked on thonsew's commits before? :P
20111010 19:03:48< timotei21> (before the revert, that is )
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20111010 19:04:03< timotei21> But anyway, hopefully trunk is stable again xD
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20111010 19:08:26< boucman> anonymissimus: around ?
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20111010 19:10:40< SigurdTheDragon> anonymissimus: It looks like your commits involving store_starting_location (r51377, 51373, others?) were affected by the revert, as [store_starting_location] isn't working for me now.
20111010 19:11:12< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51432 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/ (wesnoth.vcproj wesnothlib.vcproj): MSVC9 projectfiles update
20111010 19:11:25< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51433 /trunk/projectfiles/CodeBlocks/ (wesnoth.cbp wesnothd.cbp): CB projectfile update
20111010 19:11:41< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51434 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: add the side number to impl_side_get (again, merged)
20111010 19:11:57< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51435 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: remove duplicate implementation of store_starting_location
20111010 19:12:14< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51436 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: 
20111010 19:12:14< CIA-64> Reintroduce (again) (deprecated) support for [teleport]ignore_passability=,
20111010 19:12:14< CIA-64> check_passability= is ignored if present.
20111010 19:12:14< CIA-64> I changed that key in r48676 (shame on me...).
20111010 19:12:28< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51437 /trunk/src/gamestatus.hpp: fix a MSVC warning about inconsistent variable type declaration
20111010 19:12:44< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51438 /trunk/projectfiles/VC10/ (wesnoth.vcxproj wesnoth.vcxproj.filters): MSVC10 projectfile update
20111010 19:13:02< anonymissimus> boucman: yes
20111010 19:13:20< anonymissimus> SigurdTheDragon: update pls and compile
20111010 19:13:30< boucman> anonymissimus: you marked bug 18792 as fixed... I didn't fix that, what happened 
20111010 19:13:35< SigurdTheDragon> :D will do
20111010 19:13:35< boucman> (making sure it isn't a mistake)
20111010 19:14:34< anonymissimus> boucman: no mistake
20111010 19:15:00< anonymissimus> you need to re-fix the other bug probably instead
20111010 19:15:10< boucman> ok, make sense...
20111010 19:15:28< boucman> so that bug was caused by thonesnew's change ? seems suprising...
20111010 19:16:11< anonymissimus> well no, I'm guessing that it was caused by your bugfix, but since ai needed clean diffs ge probably reverted your bugfix
20111010 19:17:11< boucman> ok, interesting... i'll add a comment in the open bug about that
20111010 19:18:47< anonymissimus> AI0867: ok, win builds run fine, I've looked through my commits since the token stuff got introduced; I need to re-fix the event handler stuff (but I know what to do now), other than that it's fine
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20111010 19:41:17< fabi> Hello
20111010 19:41:49< fabi> I have made some progress on the widescreen theme: http://imagebin.org/178352
20111010 19:49:36< boucman> fabi: that looks good
20111010 19:49:53< boucman> note that on the right panel hp and xp overwrite other stuff
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20111010 19:50:31< fabi> boucman: Yes, the right sidebar is broken at the moment. I thought I could already show the screenshot since the right will just be like the left one.
20111010 19:50:41< boucman> k, great
20111010 19:51:04< fabi> boucman: I plan to feature 2 minimaps. One that acts like our current one, except that it will highlight the selected unit, placed on the left.
20111010 19:51:25< boucman> i don't really see the point.... but ok
20111010 19:51:39< fabi> boucman: The right one will feature the "Best Enemy Move" data.
20111010 19:51:58< fabi> The point is that you can see if your frontline holds (considering zoc) at all times.
20111010 19:52:02< boucman> that sounds good, though I don't know if it's that usefull on the minimap
20111010 19:53:05< fabi> Yes, I will need to see if it is useful.
20111010 19:54:59< Ivanovic> fabi: that feature might only make sense by *not* showing the normal terrain colors
20111010 19:55:18< Ivanovic> but by displaying colors regarding who can reach areas
20111010 19:55:30< Ivanovic> should probably be 4 different colors:
20111010 19:55:41< Ivanovic> 1) unreachable area
20111010 19:55:51< Ivanovic> 2) reachable by my (allied) units
20111010 19:55:58< Ivanovic> 3) reachable by my enemies
20111010 19:56:07< Ivanovic> 4) reachable by both me *and* the enemy
20111010 19:56:13< fabi> Ivanovic: You copy my thoughts.
20111010 19:56:45< Ivanovic> hey, i am *good* in copying things that work!
20111010 19:56:50< timotei> fabi: will there be 2 ... sidebars? because that's ugly
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20111010 19:56:56< fabi> :-)
20111010 19:58:37< zookeeper> i'm still very convinced that two unit panels aren't a good idea.
20111010 19:59:38< zookeeper> if you'd use only one wide side panel, you could still have enough space to display the CtH stuff side-by-side
20111010 19:59:49< timotei> Cth?
20111010 19:59:54< zookeeper> chance to hit
20111010 20:01:24< zookeeper> it'd be much more comfortable if you'd see both your and the enemy's CtH stats next to each other, instead of having to move your eyes across the whole screen if you want to compare them
20111010 20:01:45< fabi> timotei: Yes, there will be two sidebars.
20111010 20:02:45< fabi> zookeeper: I have already answered to that in the forums thread. I do not see a reason why there can't be another theme more like you like it to be. Let me finish this one and then come back to me, let's then see what we can do.
20111010 20:02:45< boucman> i'd tend to agree with zookeeper, maybe moving both sidebars on the same side would be more comfortable....
20111010 20:03:30< zookeeper> fabi, sure, i don't think i've been following the thread much
20111010 20:04:39< shadowmaster> I do not see a reason why we should provide alternate subpar themes as part of mainline.
20111010 20:06:02< shadowmaster> people are generally free to do whatever they want in add-ons, but if there's a user interface option in mainline it should be on par with the default one
20111010 20:06:55< boucman> shadowmaster: I think this has potential to be on par with our current theme eventually, remember it will be for wide screen only, so lateral real estate is ok to use
20111010 20:07:31< shadowmaster> yes, I know I'm the only person who finds it distracting to have two sidebars at the same time displaying information about two different entities
20111010 20:07:48< fabi> shadowmaster: No, zookeeper shares your opinion.
20111010 20:07:56< fabi> and timotei
20111010 20:08:04< shadowmaster> that was sarcasm. I can read.
20111010 20:09:05< fabi> You can't pleasure all of the people for all of the time.
20111010 20:09:08< boucman> well, I'm not agains the two sidebars, and i think displaying cth on the main window is great, UI-wise... not sure how to do it in another way... worth thinking about...
20111010 20:09:22< shadowmaster> no, but you can probably try to appeal to the LCD
20111010 20:18:27< fabi> LCD = lowest common divisor? That is exactly what I try to avoid, too many people involved means that the mixture of all thoughts is most likely not the best solution. Remember the discussion about UtBS there was nothing to do when every voice was to be considered.
20111010 20:19:26< shadowmaster> The UtBS issue is a completely different problem and you know it. :)
20111010 20:20:22< fabi> If you insist.
20111010 20:21:25< shadowmaster> IMO artists are generally more competent than coders at interface design. You could ask Eleazar or Jetrel for feedback.
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20111010 20:24:12< mordante> servus
20111010 20:24:53< mordante> nice job AI0867 
20111010 20:33:22< mordante> AI0867, the network testing fails for you? When I reenabled it it worked for me
20111010 20:33:45< mordante> can't test at the moment, compiling Wesnoth takes a fair bit of time
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20111010 20:38:29< mordante> fabi, screenshot looks nice to me
20111010 20:38:42< mordante> fabi, only somehow the location of the minimap feels odd
20111010 20:38:54< mordante> (and time of day as well)
20111010 20:42:40< fabi> I thought some graphical separator can do the trick. (A line like in the default theme). Or do you have a suggestion how to arrange the items?
20111010 20:43:08< mordante> personally I expect a minimap somewhere on the top not at the bottom
20111010 20:43:35< mordante> I also have the most important things on my desktop on top, so might be a bit biased
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20111010 21:03:16< boucman> minimaps are conventionally on top in most strategy games
20111010 21:03:44< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51439 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: manually redo r51289 and r51311 (DBG_EH log domain and messages)
20111010 21:03:51< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51440 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: 
20111010 21:03:51< CIA-64> manually redo r51290, r51291 and 51292 (event handler bug)
20111010 21:03:51< CIA-64> (fix for bug #18695 and bug #17527)
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20111010 21:14:52< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51441 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: convert line endings from my previous revision to LF (sry)
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20111010 21:19:57< anonymissimus> sooo...now it will be more fun again, hopefully
20111010 21:20:34< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: pls check whether your non-working scenario does again
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20111010 21:23:34< anonymissimus> wesbot: topic
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20111010 21:33:35< CIA-64> ivanovic * r51442 /trunk/ (21 files in 20 dirs): updated Lithuanian translation
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20111010 21:41:36< mordante> I'm off bye
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20111010 22:50:02< Ivanovic> just sent a mail to the wesnoth-dev ml about going for a gaming dev room at fosdem2012
20111010 22:50:18< Ivanovic> please reply if you want to support this or if you don't want to have to do anything with this!
20111010 22:50:28< Ivanovic> (yeah, lets actually make use of the ML for this)
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