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20111015 00:10:34< Espreon> Actually, notes_string= doesn't seem to work at all.
20111015 00:14:07< anonymissimus> Espreon: zookeeper wrote that thing
20111015 00:14:22< anonymissimus> make a bug report and assign to him :)
20111015 00:14:49< Espreon> Actually, I think I might be overlooking something.
20111015 00:15:06< anonymissimus> I think...most of it may be by silene
20111015 00:15:35< Espreon> And we all know that silene is the Holy Frenchman.®
20111015 00:16:14< Espreon> Even holier than boucman and Lord Bob put together.™
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20111015 00:17:56< anonymissimus> I don't say he never made mistakes of course, I found quite a lot myself ;)
20111015 00:18:04< Espreon> I see.
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20111015 00:18:44< Espreon> Yeah, I was overlooking something.
20111015 00:18:46< Espreon> It works fine.
20111015 00:18:54< anonymissimus> but still, the more I understand the code he wrote, the more I see how thought-out this all is
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20111015 00:29:41< shadowmaster> well, this is something someone should take care of soon https://gna.org/bugs/?16571
20111015 00:30:49< Espreon> Indeed.
20111015 00:31:02< Espreon> It oughtta be a blocker...
20111015 00:32:06< shadowmaster> funnily enough silene was the one who assigned it to himself originally, and then he just stopped caring or something
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20111015 00:32:32< shadowmaster> because, yeah, Wesnoth rewriting WML behind people's backs is totally not a problem!
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20111015 00:46:40< CIA-64> espreon * r51480 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Dark_Forecast.cfg: Some improvements for Dark Forecast.
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20111015 00:49:45 * Espreon is really tempted to make that bug a blocker...
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20111015 00:57:25< anonymissimus> evil evil silene...
20111015 00:58:36< anonymissimus> there's a few other minor issues his config changes introduced; the [event]name=turn $var bug for instance
20111015 01:03:43< Espreon> It really should be done, since a certain someone does things like this: http://pastebin.com/AVVR89VZ
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20111015 01:05:18< Espreon> anonymissimus: What do you think?
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20111015 01:08:11< anonymissimus> is that me ? xD
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20111015 01:09:40< Espreon> ... No.
20111015 01:09:45< anonymissimus> you have a bug there btw, greater_than_equal_to
20111015 01:09:55< anonymissimus> i guess it qualifies as a blocker
20111015 01:09:57< Espreon> No.
20111015 01:10:16< Espreon> Well.
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20111015 01:10:46< Espreon> Basically, [release] is called when there the value of blockers is not above zero.
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20111015 01:11:05< Espreon> anonymissimus: If you meant in the [variable], then definitely not.
20111015 01:11:13< Espreon> *first [variable]
20111015 01:11:34< Espreon> As you can see we have bugs with severities of six.
20111015 01:11:36< anonymissimus> but bugs can have severety 6
20111015 01:11:40< Espreon> Yes.
20111015 01:11:45< Espreon> But releases still get made.
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20111015 01:14:45< shadowmaster> I wonder if it'd be a good idea to remove ana and the bug with severity 9 now that there's yet another asio-based replacement
20111015 01:15:05< Espreon> There is no severity 9.
20111015 01:15:09< Espreon> Only a priority 9.
20111015 01:15:19< shadowmaster> priority 9
20111015 01:15:27< shadowmaster> loonycyborg_: ^
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20111015 01:16:04< shadowmaster> I really dislike that it's a GSoC project where mentor and student time was invested for nothing
20111015 01:16:55< anonymissimus> does that bug only appear with ana ?
20111015 01:17:10< shadowmaster> I know it's not the first time it's happened, but still... (new lobby, python AI improvements)
20111015 01:21:11< Espreon> Actually, this is probably more accurate: http://pastebin.com/YwbxJHGy
20111015 01:22:23< Espreon> But whatever.
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20111015 01:24:03< anonymissimus> uh no that code is buggy
20111015 01:24:22< anonymissimus> first, you still haven't solved the bug with severetity 6
20111015 01:24:49< Espreon> ...
20111015 01:24:50< Espreon> Dude.
20111015 01:24:55< Espreon> You need to learn to listen.
20111015 01:24:56< loonycyborg_> shadowmaster: bug #16571 doesn't have much to do with ana if you mean it. 
20111015 01:25:07< Espreon> It doesn't matter if we have bugs that are of severity six.
20111015 01:25:24< anonymissimus> second, isn't enough for one of the conditions to be true to have no release ?
20111015 01:25:39< anonymissimus> why not ?
20111015 01:25:48< shadowmaster> loonycyborg_: that's not the priority 9 bug 
20111015 01:25:54< shadowmaster> loonycyborg_: https://gna.org/bugs/?17099
20111015 01:26:31< Espreon> anonymissimus: We already have severity six bugs, yet releases are still made.
20111015 01:26:51< Espreon> Also, I probably should have put [or] there, but I suck.
20111015 01:27:03< shadowmaster> this severity numbers bullshit is confusing me, why don't you use the "blocker" or "security" monikers instead?
20111015 01:27:18< loonycyborg_> shadowmaster: Its severity can be reduced since ana is no longer used by default
20111015 01:27:41< shadowmaster> yeah, but we could kill ana instead and mark the bug as Won't Fix!
20111015 01:27:57< Espreon> That'd bring joy to a certain someone!
20111015 01:28:06< shadowmaster> (assuming it's ana's fault and not wesnothd's)
20111015 01:28:39< loonycyborg_> The report says that it doesn't happen with ana disabled so definitely ana's.
20111015 01:29:00< shadowmaster> yeah, AI0867's comments points to a pure virtual method call
20111015 01:29:48< shadowmaster> anyway, that's something for yo to consider, since you are going to be known as the network code maintainer from now on
20111015 01:29:52< shadowmaster> you
20111015 01:30:25< Espreon> shadowmaster: Just like I'm now the CJKV line wrapping maintainer?
20111015 01:30:35< Espreon> ... or whatever.
20111015 01:31:43< shadowmaster> no, you are the "I am a pedant and I enforce rules regarding languages I can't even speak" guy for me
20111015 01:32:05< Espreon> Good.
20111015 01:32:15< shadowmaster> a faux-linguist, if you will
20111015 01:32:19< Espreon> Yup.
20111015 01:32:43< Espreon> Well, more like... a prescriptionist.
20111015 01:32:57< Espreon> ... prescriptivist?
20111015 01:32:58< shadowmaster> sigh.
20111015 01:32:59< Espreon> Screw it.
20111015 01:33:12< loonycyborg_> Actually I'm not even sure whether mark it fixed or won't fix :P
20111015 01:33:12< shadowmaster> I guess I know better than trying to troll you.
20111015 01:33:19< Espreon> Yup.
20111015 01:33:45< shadowmaster> but yeah, the faux-linguist show is pretty annoying since nobody else can tell whether you are right or not
20111015 01:34:06< Espreon> It's so delicious... and nutritious.
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20111015 01:39:54< anonymissimus> but if your code doesn't care about severety 6 bugs then why aout the 5 ones ?
20111015 01:40:19< anonymissimus> severety can be set by the bug poster so it doesnt matter anyway
20111015 01:40:44< Espreon> anonymissimus: Because I'm describing someone's actual process.
20111015 01:40:46< anonymissimus> frequently enough someone posts his useless anonymous report as a blocker
20111015 01:40:59< shadowmaster> and then we downgrade those
20111015 01:54:27< anonymissimus> ok Espreon who is that someone, Ivanovic before a stable release ?
20111015 01:55:16< Espreon> <crickets>
20111015 01:55:22< Espreon> Figure it out.
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20111015 06:31:35< CIA-64> espreon * r51481 /trunk/po/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Updated the Old English translation.
20111015 06:36:31< Espreon> Hmmm, not everything got in...
20111015 06:36:32< Espreon> Odd...
20111015 06:38:41< CIA-64> espreon * r51482 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Dark_Forecast.cfg: Improved a couple of strings in Dark Forecast.
20111015 06:39:22< CIA-64> espreon * r51483 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/ang@latin.po wesnoth-tutorial/ang@latin.po): Updated the Old English translation.
20111015 06:39:37< Espreon> Ah, flawed use of 'cp'.
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20111015 14:20:31< mordante> anonymissimus I think I found the crashing bug, at least found code that seems to happily write 'random' memory addresses
20111015 14:28:35< mordante> Soliton, Ivanovic was https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?18654 also due to the token stuff?
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20111015 14:30:30< mordante> anonymissimus can you test whether the crash disappears with this patch? http://paste.debian.net/136704/
20111015 14:30:47< mordante> it does for me, but I still have a hard time to reproduce the issue
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20111015 14:51:17< Ivanovic> no idea
20111015 14:51:20< Ivanovic> this was reported by me?
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20111015 14:56:36< mordante> Ivanovic, yes "This was reported by Soliton, Gabba and Ivanovic."
20111015 14:56:51< Ivanovic> yeah, i am surprised by this line
20111015 14:57:01< Ivanovic> since i can't remember me reporting anything like this around that time
20111015 14:58:13< mordante> ok, then I hope Soliton remembers it
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20111015 15:05:08< anonymissimus> mordante: seems to do it, yes
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20111015 15:10:20< mordante> ok thanks, it's not really the proper fix, but leave that for gabba
20111015 15:11:48< mordante> for me valgrind gave an invalid write of 4 bytes when "u_.movement_" was assigned to
20111015 15:14:44< anonymissimus> mordante: in a counter check after removing your patch, the debugegr crashes on first open/close already, yeah, really seems like it
20111015 15:15:09< Ivanovic> RFC: what do you think if going for a feature freeze with the next dev release "early" in november?
20111015 15:15:17< anonymissimus> now I wonder why all these functions are called despüite of wb being inactive
20111015 15:15:53< anonymissimus> could be the cause of quite some other bugs as well I guess
20111015 15:16:02< mordante> anonymissimus, no idea best as gabba
20111015 15:16:22< Ivanovic> AI0867, anonymissimus, crimson_penguin, elias, fendrin, loonycyborg, mordante, Rhonda, shadowmaster, Soliton, timotei, everyone else who cares: what do you think of starting the feature freeze to prepare for 1.10 with the next dev release at the beginning of november?
20111015 15:16:40< Ivanovic> meaning: after that release only bug fixes are welcome and strings should only be changed if this is *really* required
20111015 15:16:41< mordante> Ivanovic, I had hoped to find time to fix several GUI2 design issues, but realistically I won't have time for it soon
20111015 15:16:48< Ivanovic> zookeeper: sorry, forgot you in that list
20111015 15:17:05< mordante> so I don't object against a freeze
20111015 15:18:06< anonymissimus> fine with me...
20111015 15:20:08< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: When the freeze will end? That is when 1.10 will be released?
20111015 15:20:17< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: exactly
20111015 15:20:47< loonycyborg> Ugh. I mean at what date 1.10 is planned :P
20111015 15:20:49< Ivanovic> i'd say that things will be under feature freeze for at least 6 weeks
20111015 15:21:01< Ivanovic> so 1.10 might be done around the change of the year
20111015 15:22:52< Gambit> How long until the freeze?
20111015 15:23:09< Ivanovic> half a month
20111015 15:23:10< Gambit> I want to make merman villages not care about their base terrain.
20111015 15:24:38< anonymissimus> then quickly get your stuff half-backed so you can fix in during the freeze^^
20111015 15:24:49< timotei> Ivanovic: that applies just for the game right? I want to work a bit more on the plugin to release the 2.0 version in time with 1.10 :P
20111015 15:25:05< Ivanovic> timotei: yeah, it is meant for the game
20111015 15:25:16< Ivanovic> extra tools can and should of course continue being worked on
20111015 15:25:39< mordante> anonymissimus, I find that a particular bad advice :-|
20111015 15:25:54< Ivanovic> timotei: so having the wml editor as "2.0, compatible with wesnoth 1.10.x" sounds great to me!
20111015 15:26:19< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: regarding your question with stati of bug reports
20111015 15:26:43< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: of course devs are wanted to adjust the "ratings" of reports, so that only "real" blockers for a release are marked as such
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20111015 15:29:31< CIA-64> mordante * r51485 /trunk/src/whiteboard/mapbuilder.cpp: 
20111015 15:29:32< CIA-64> Add a work-round for bug #18534.
20111015 15:29:32< CIA-64> The destructor of the class restored the moment of the units. When a
20111015 15:29:32< CIA-64> unit no longer exists it overwrites random memory. The issue has been
20111015 15:29:32< CIA-64> found by valgrind.
20111015 15:29:32< CIA-64> anonymissimus tested the work-around since he was able to reproduce the
20111015 15:29:32< CIA-64> issue easily, while on my system it went well for a long time.
20111015 15:37:48< Gambit> still a security one open
20111015 15:39:47< Gambit> Also are delay shroud updates coming back now?
20111015 15:40:04< anonymissimus> yes, I demand it!
20111015 15:40:35< anonymissimus> crab promised to me if the DSU emulation doesnt come until 1.10 it'll be reenabled
20111015 15:41:12< anonymissimus> best we reenable it for 1.9.10 already then
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20111015 16:04:09< CIA-64> grickit * r51486 /trunk/data/core/terrain.cfg: Merfolk villages can now be placed on arbitrary base terrains like all the other villages.
20111015 16:08:10< CIA-64> grickit * r51487 /trunk/data/core/terrain.cfg: Forgot to set a default base now that Merfolk Villages are overlays.
20111015 16:14:15< zookeeper> Ivanovic, there's a lot of things i'd like to do for 1.10, but realistically it's very unlikely i'd find the time to in any case, so that's fine by me.
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20111015 17:25:28< Rhonda> Ivanovic: beginning of november gives me two weeks to complete the translation, doable. :)
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20111015 17:34:09< Alarantalara> Gambit: I've been thinking about doing that to the merfolk villages for some time. I just can't decide what a good alias would be
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20111015 17:52:22< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51488 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: 
20111015 17:52:22< CIA-64> Fixed usage of a reference in a commit of mine.
20111015 17:52:22< CIA-64> According to a comment by mordante in variable.hpp,
20111015 17:52:22< CIA-64> std::string& foo = vcfg["foo"] is unsafe, and silene appears to have always
20111015 17:52:22< CIA-64> used config::attribute_value foo = vcfg["foo"] (without reference).
20111015 17:54:13< fendrin> Ivanovic: That is fine with me. But it means that I need to remove the mp version of LoW if crab doesn't find the time to implement the support for it without hack in the remaining two weeks.
20111015 17:55:50< anonymissimus> mordante: regarding my latest revision, is that save/recommended ? mayve you should update the comment then; config::attribute_value something = cfg["something"] is really common, especially among new authors
20111015 17:56:21< anonymissimus> since implementing a new key or so is good for a first-time-patch
20111015 17:57:40< anonymissimus> fendrin: it also means you need to deal with the "JOYSTICK:" options ;)
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20111015 17:59:25< fendrin> anonymissimus: Yes, indeed.
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20111015 18:14:12< mordante> Rhonda, the feature freeze gives translators the time to work on translations ;-)
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20111015 18:19:06< mordante> anonymissimus, the issue is that the const reference is _also_ wrong
20111015 18:19:31< mordante> a const reference can normally bind a temporary, but that fails here
20111015 18:19:51< mordante> so the change is good
20111015 18:20:22< mordante> this issue has bitten the unwary quite often, and since it's UB it often tends to work
20111015 18:27:24< anonymissimus> ok...I still dont understand it but at least know it...
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20111015 18:28:51< mordante> which part do you not understand?
20111015 18:29:34< AI0867> anonymissimus: I believe you *can* refer to an attribute_value, just like you could refer to a t_string that way
20111015 18:30:01< AI0867> the problem if is you create a reference to a std::string that is cast from a t_string/attribute_value
20111015 18:30:20< AI0867> because that reference then refers to a member of the temporary
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20111015 18:30:32< AI0867> and as the temporary isn't bound to anything, it goes out of scope
20111015 18:30:49< AI0867> and your std::string& refers to a member of a destructed object
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20111015 18:36:23< mordante> that combined with the fact that the conversions are made implicit by us
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20111015 18:36:45< mordante> makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot
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20111015 18:37:27< anonymissimus> well, it would help understanding to cause, hit & investigate some bugs caused by it :)
20111015 18:37:28< AI0867> mordante: yes, I've looked at a way to fix that, about a year ago, but we'll need c++0a for that
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20111015 18:38:31< AI0867> other than the option of making the cast explicit
20111015 18:38:59< AI0867> or is it 0b now?
20111015 18:39:01< mordante> anonymissimus, hitting the bug is kind of hard, it often goes well
20111015 18:39:37< Gambit> Alarantalara: what do you mean?
20111015 18:39:44< mordante> AI0867, it has been officially released as C++11
20111015 18:39:55< mordante> s/released/published
20111015 18:40:01< mordante> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/
20111015 18:40:24< AI0867> it's not the final draft any more?
20111015 18:40:29< mordante> AI0867, I think somebody tried to make the cast explicit and caused a lot of things to be fixed
20111015 18:41:11< AI0867> I'll take a look at what breaks
20111015 18:41:11< mordante> no has been approved on August 12th(?) and published on the 10th of October
20111015 18:41:20< AI0867> =)
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20111015 18:41:30< Alarantalara> Gambit: The simplest way to do it, is to allow it to be placed on anything, but that means that it needs to have reasonable values for this like flat terrain and sand as well as any water terrain
20111015 18:41:31< AI0867> when can we expect reasonably full gcc support?
20111015 18:41:45< mordante> but we want to stick with C++03 for a while
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20111015 18:41:58< anonymissimus> AI0867: for that matter, look at r51336, where thonsew seems to have fixed such asn issue as well
20111015 18:41:58< Alarantalara> At the moment I'm think of of best defense of base and shallow water, but worst movement of same
20111015 18:42:32< mordante> gcc-4.7 will have very reasonable support, MSVC will be a bigger concern
20111015 18:42:43< mordante> http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html
20111015 18:42:57< Alarantalara> Otherwise it's a lot of terrains like the current mess with forests
20111015 18:44:17< CIA-64> ai0867 * r51489 /trunk/src/addon/manager.cpp: Restore r51336 by thonsew: Fixed a std::string & bound to a temporary rvalue.
20111015 18:44:36< Gambit> I still don't understand.
20111015 18:44:50< Gambit> Why should it be any different than the other villages?
20111015 18:45:13< Alarantalara> Because it doesn't use village defense values
20111015 18:45:40< AI0867> Gambit: it's an underwater village, so humans shouldn't get 60% def there
20111015 18:45:55< AI0867> er, not 1 move
20111015 18:45:59< Gambit> It aliases to its base and the village type
20111015 18:46:04< Gambit> Defense should be the same as before
20111015 18:46:23< Alarantalara> defense and movement come from the village type
20111015 18:46:25< Gambit> I tested with trolls anyway.
20111015 18:47:54< Gambit> err hmmm
20111015 18:48:00< Gambit> I swear I tested with troll whelp :s
20111015 18:48:53< Alarantalara> my problem is: aliasing to base, shallow changes a few units in swamp
20111015 18:49:11< Alarantalara> and making an exception for swamp, while possible, it a bit strange
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20111015 18:49:55< Gambit> What do you mean by "shallow changes a few units in swamp" ?
20111015 18:50:37< Alarantalara> there are a couple units whose movement and defense are not the same in swamp and shallow water
20111015 18:50:53< Alarantalara> I know the sea serpent is in the list
20111015 18:50:59< Gambit> aliasof=_bas makes it whatever the base terrain is doesn't it?
20111015 18:51:15< Alarantalara> yes
20111015 18:51:27< AI0867> Alarantalara: looking at the previous version, the swamp version was alias of swamp and village, while shallow version was alias of shallow alone
20111015 18:51:31< Gambit> So that would do the shallow water and swamp
20111015 18:51:34< AI0867> I'd just say make it alias of _bas alone
20111015 18:51:35< Alarantalara> I'm considering aliasof=_bas,Ww
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20111015 18:52:13< AI0867> or I misread the swamp version
20111015 18:52:22< AI0867> both were just an alias of the base
20111015 18:52:26< Alarantalara> _bas alone changes no behaviour
20111015 18:52:32< Alarantalara> so yes that's accurate
20111015 18:53:20< Alarantalara> I guess I'm concerned about people putting them on land
20111015 18:53:42< AI0867> "it hurts when I shoot myself in the foot"
20111015 18:53:45< Gambit> Part of the map designers responsibility is weeding out strange behavior
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20111015 18:55:15< CIA-64> grickit * r51490 /trunk/data/core/terrain.cfg: Merfolk Village should only aliasof the base terrain. Not the village terrain type.
20111015 18:58:43< CIA-64> alarantalara * r51491 /trunk/data/core/ (29 files in 2 dirs): Use tile image that matches default base
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20111015 18:59:10< Alarantalara> bah, bad commit
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20111015 19:03:40< CIA-64> alarantalara * r51492 /trunk/data/core/ (29 files in 2 dirs): revert previous incomplete commit
20111015 19:04:56< Ivanovic> Rhonda: nah, beginning of november is not the release of 1.10
20111015 19:05:04< Ivanovic> but the start of the stabilization time
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20111015 19:11:15< chrisoelmueller> Ivanovic: heya. got some questions about the manpower you put into gci :)
20111015 19:11:51< chrisoelmueller> that is, i'm not asking the team whether applying sounds sane tomorrow if the scale is larger than soc
20111015 19:18:06< Ivanovic> honestly i am not sure at all if wesnoth should apply again simply because we need *many* tasks
20111015 19:18:37< Ivanovic> you need really many tasks that can be done in some hours
20111015 19:20:11< Ivanovic> the manpower: not sure
20111015 19:20:19< Ivanovic> crab_ was the one doing most stuff last year
20111015 19:20:37< mordante> wesbot, seen gabba
20111015 19:20:37< wesbot> mordante: The person with the nick gabba last spoke 11d 13h ago.  11d 12h ago person left:
20111015 19:20:37< Ivanovic> at least you need to write a whole lot more, since you got to add each task in the google tracker seperately
20111015 19:20:49< mordante> wesbot, seen tschmitz
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20111015 19:20:59< mordante> :-(
20111015 19:23:37< AI0867> grep -E 'std::string.*&.*=.*\[.*\]' src/*|wc -l <-- this gives 139 results. There are some false positives, but most are real
20111015 19:25:50< mordante> AI0867, you left out the recursive switch on purpose?
20111015 19:26:39< mordante> IIRC the operation is save on a cfg, but not 100% sure
20111015 19:27:26< AI0867> I think you're right
20111015 19:27:43< AI0867> which means my grep doesn't mean very much =/
20111015 19:29:35< mordante> just that we only need to verify about 188 cases
20111015 19:31:20< mordante> and of course we can change them blindly, it might give some overhead, but won't hurt
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20111015 19:39:52< anonymissimus> "IIRC the operation is save on a cfg, but not 100% sure". meaning that it's save with config btu nto vconfig ?
20111015 19:41:38< mordante> yes that's what I remember
20111015 19:42:10< mordante> which makes the stuff even trickier since often both a config and vconfig use the cfg variable name
20111015 19:43:02 * mordante almost starts to advocate the Hungarian notation
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20111015 19:49:39< tschmitz> mordante: ping
20111015 19:51:17< AI0867> there's actually a sane version of hungarian notation (invented by application programmers within microsoft), but other programmers failed to see the point and used it somewhat differently, which was then enshrined by microsoft as the windows programming way
20111015 19:51:57< mordante> tschmitz, pong
20111015 19:52:23< tschmitz> mordante: wesbot said you were looking for me
20111015 19:52:32< tschmitz> and I noticed there seemed to be some trouble with the whiteboard
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20111015 19:52:59< mordante> tschmitz, true, already committed an issue earlier today and assigned to bug to gabba
20111015 19:54:12< mordante> tschmitz, this one https://gna.org/bugs/?18534
20111015 19:54:38< mordante> tschmitz, while investigating the bug I ran into a lot of singular iterator issues in WB
20111015 19:55:03< mordante> tschmitz, so I like to commit an assert that triggers when it happens
20111015 19:55:30< tschmitz> mordante: Sounds like that would be good
20111015 19:55:49< mordante> tschmitz, that will probably result in several bug reports, so either you or gabba needs to have time to fix them
20111015 19:56:18< mordante> the other option is that I send you the patch and you can test what breaks before the patch hits mainline
20111015 19:56:28< mordante> the latter obviously has my preference
20111015 19:58:38< tschmitz> mordante: I can try to test it -- any idea what types of things I would do to try to trigger the assert?
20111015 20:00:08< mordante> about everything that tries to copy the null iterator
20111015 20:00:41< mordante> the WB functions callers should test whether there is some something to do before getting the iterator range
20111015 20:03:22< tschmitz> Ah, ok I understand the problem now -- my whiteboard iterators are not safely copyable because they might contain a null iterator
20111015 20:03:32< mordante> yup
20111015 20:03:56< tschmitz> Do you think that's what's causing some of these bugs?
20111015 20:04:10< tschmitz> Or is it separate from those issues?
20111015 20:04:35< chrisoelmueller> Ivanovic: okay, that's about what i expected
20111015 20:04:46< mordante> tschmitz, probably not, but it's undefined behaviour so might
20111015 20:04:57< chrisoelmueller> unless there is somebody with like weeks of spare time, i guess we'll not be able to apply
20111015 20:05:20< mordante> tschmitz, it at least breaks when running gcc with debug containers, which I do often
20111015 20:06:07< mordante> tschmitz, I'll be afk soon, this is the patch, not yet complete but I expect it to trigger some issues
20111015 20:06:10< mordante> http://paste.debian.net/136805/
20111015 20:06:28< mordante> commits on top of my latest commits
20111015 20:06:33< CIA-64> mordante * r51496 /trunk/src/ (unit_map.cpp unit_map.hpp): 
20111015 20:06:33< CIA-64> Removing trailing underscores of public members.
20111015 20:06:33< CIA-64> Trailing underscores are used for _private_ members.
20111015 20:06:33< CIA-64> mordante * r51495 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: Remove whitespace.
20111015 20:06:34< CIA-64> mordante * r51493 /trunk/src/ (unit_map.cpp unit_map.hpp): 
20111015 20:06:34< CIA-64> Add unit_map::has_unit().
20111015 20:06:34< CIA-64> This allows to check whether a unit exists in the map.
20111015 20:06:35< mordante> applies
20111015 20:06:36< tschmitz> mordante: OK I'll snoop around.
20111015 20:06:36< CIA-64> mordante * r51494 /trunk/src/ (unit.cpp unit.hpp): 
20111015 20:06:36< CIA-64> Harden unit_movement_resetter class.
20111015 20:06:36< CIA-64> Add a warning regarding its usage and test whether the unit exists
20111015 20:06:37< CIA-64> before assigning to it. (Still a bit experimental, but initial tests
20111015 20:06:37< CIA-64> show no regressions.)
20111015 20:06:38< CIA-64> mordante * r51497 /trunk/src/whiteboard/side_actions.hpp: Add some extra validation before deferring.
20111015 20:06:46< CIA-64> mordante * r51498 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Strip trailing whitespace.
20111015 20:06:46< CIA-64> mordante * r51499 /trunk/src/tests/gui/iterator.cpp: Remove an old-style-cast.
20111015 20:06:49< CIA-64> mordante * r51500 /trunk/src/tests/gui/test_gui2.cpp: Remove an old-style-cast.
20111015 20:06:49< CIA-64> mordante * r51501 /trunk/src/tests/gui/fire_event.cpp: Remove an old-style-cast.
20111015 20:06:51< CIA-64> mordante * r51502 /trunk/src/tests/gui/visitor.cpp: Remove some old-style-casts.
20111015 20:06:54< CIA-64> mordante * r51503 /trunk/src/arrow.cpp: Remove some old-style-casts.
20111015 20:06:59< CIA-64> alarantalara * r51504 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/walls/ (52 files): Make stone wall interior match cave wall interior
20111015 20:10:33< mordante> tschmitz, the patch ommits the assignment operator, but I think this already should find a lot (if not all) issues
20111015 20:10:53< mordante> I'm afk now, will be back in a few hours
20111015 20:11:26< tschmitz> OK
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20111015 20:21:25< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: I thought more people would prefer the freeze to begin after 1.9.11 rather than 1.9.10, but it's fine with me either way since I haven't found the motivation to continue working on some user interface issues I wanted to address before 1.10
20111015 20:22:43< shadowmaster> the add-ons manager interface being the primary one
20111015 20:23:03< anonymissimus> tschmitz: as for bug #18534, I also wondered why that stuff is called at all with teh wb deactivated...
20111015 20:23:23< shadowmaster> however, I think Crab_ hasn't forward-ported the GUI2 chat log dialog yet, and that's probably something that should be done before any feature or string freeze takes place
20111015 20:24:33< tschmitz> anonymissimus: Some whiteboard code is still called while it's off
20111015 20:25:21< tschmitz> If one, for example, turns the wb on, makes some plans, and turns it off, then the plans will still be displayed and used even though it's currently off
20111015 20:27:41< AI0867> now that the other security-level bug has been fixed, can someone take a look at and test my patch for #17535?
20111015 20:33:11< shadowmaster> AI0867: it rejects further login attempts for 1 hour?
20111015 20:34:41< shadowmaster> from the same IP, hm
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20111015 20:56:09< anonymissimus> mordante: re r51494; did you call apply_shroud_changes ? sctions.cpp:2849, the movement resetter is apllied to a unit not in the unit_map afaik
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20111015 21:07:05< Rhonda> Ivanovic: I know what you said. Still, it is a good time aim to get working on the translation.
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20111015 21:25:26< Ivanovic> :)
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20111015 21:50:25< shadowm_laptop> mordante: why haven't you been able to fix the blur effect on GUI2 dialogs with interactive controls, btw?
20111015 21:51:50< anonymissimus> mordante: hm yes, it triggers an assert :)
20111015 21:52:15< anonymissimus> I don't know whether it's a good idea to limit usage of this class to unit-map units
20111015 21:52:20< shadowmaster> that is, it would be nice to restore the blur effect on the titlescreen panels and the WML dialogs
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20111015 23:05:13< CIA-64> anonymissimus * r51505 /trunk/data/lua/wml-tags.lua: made scope of this_unit variable in modify_unit local (bug #18811)
20111015 23:09:19< mordante> AI0867, I glossed over the patch, no time to test it now
20111015 23:09:49< mordante> AI0867, wouldn't it be a good idea to always delay a failed attempt for about a second
20111015 23:10:18< mordante> it has little impact on a human, but will greatly delay the amount of attempts to be made
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20111015 23:11:58< shadowmaster> AI0867: yeah, about https://gna.org/bugs/?17535#comment1 , perhaps Soliton would like to check it 
20111015 23:12:30< mordante> shadowm_laptop, lack of time and not entirely sure how to best fix it yet
20111015 23:12:49< mordante> anonymissimus, if the assert triggers incorrectly feel free to remove it
20111015 23:12:51< shadowmaster> mordante: :( :( :(
20111015 23:13:02< mordante> like I said not entirely sure whether it was safe
20111015 23:23:52< anonymissimus> mordante: well, the unit_movement_resetter is used on a copy of a unit_map unit in that code so of course the assert triggers...
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20111015 23:24:20< AI0867> mordante: the server is single-threaded, so adding a delay will be some work
20111015 23:24:34< anonymissimus> we also have, in teh lua interface for instance, unit objects which aren't in the unit map
20111015 23:25:08< anonymissimus> which someone might want to use this class on...
20111015 23:26:38< mordante> AI0867, I hope we can make it multi-threaded soon again
20111015 23:27:15< mordante> anonymissimus, like I wrote in the commit message I gave it some light testing and seemed to work fine
20111015 23:27:22< mordante> I'll revert it
20111015 23:36:54< CIA-64> mordante * r51506 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: 
20111015 23:36:54< CIA-64> Remove the assert introduced in r51494.
20111015 23:36:54< CIA-64> anonymissimus found some valid cases which now assert. Changed it in a
20111015 23:36:54< CIA-64> debug warning, mainly to have hint that it might be the cause of an
20111015 23:36:54< CIA-64> issue.
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