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20111018 00:01:39< CIA-64> espreon * r51529 /trunk/po/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Updated the British English translation.
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20111018 00:14:07< CIA-64> espreon * r51530 /trunk/po/wesnoth/la.po: Updated the Latin translation.
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20111018 02:27:36< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51531 /trunk/src/ (dialogs.cpp gui/dialogs/game_load.cpp): Fix inconsistent capitalization of "replay" in the Load Game dialog sidebar
20111018 02:32:07< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51532 /trunk/src/ (dialogs.cpp gui/dialogs/game_load.cpp): Give test scenario saves a proper internationalized (and properly capitalized) campaign type label
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20111018 02:42:43< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51533 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/game_save_oos.cfg: gui2: Set maximum dimensions for the OOS notification dialog so it looks better on wide screens
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20111018 03:03:31< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51534 /trunk/ (changelog data/scenario-test.cfg src/unit.cpp): Fixed "error parsing image modifications" message caused by subsequent image mod additions using the add attribute in [effect] apply_to=image_mod
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20111018 03:11:35< shadowmaster> wesbot: patch 2633
20111018 03:11:36< wesbot> Patch #2633  Assigned to: Jérémy Rosen <boucman>  Status: Done  Priority: 3 - Low
20111018 03:11:39< wesbot> Summary: Refactoring of the modification parsing code
20111018 03:11:41< wesbot> Original submission: While reading through image.cpp to prepare my proposal I 
20111018 03:11:44< wesbot> have noticed the ugly almoat 400 line long loop in the image::locator::load_imag
20111018 03:11:47< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/patch/?2633
20111018 03:11:50< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/patch/download.php?file_id=12883
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20111018 03:26:13< shadowmaster> webstopic
20111018 03:26:15< shadowmaster> wesbot: topic
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20111018 03:26:22< shadowmaster> \o/
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20111018 03:43:01< shadowmaster> Espreon: do you think it'd make sense to revert to sentence case for checkboxes?
20111018 03:43:24< shadowmaster> that affects Advanced Preferences entries, by proxy
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20111018 10:25:48< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: regarding r51533:
20111018 10:25:56< Ivanovic> what when using a resolution of 800x480?
20111018 10:26:05< Ivanovic> then this dialog might be too large, right?
20111018 10:26:55< Ivanovic> moin btw
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20111018 16:03:26< Rhonda> "enables the new campaign syntax parsing."
20111018 16:03:40< Rhonda> Is this a new syntax parsing for campaigns, or is this syntax parsing about new campaigns?
20111018 16:04:30< Rhonda> Also, parsing in what way? Checking and producing "check/fail" output, or is this internal parsing before using?
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20111018 16:54:25< anonymissimus> Rhonda: if you refer to the command line switch zaroth introduced, it's the ladder and the ladder
20111018 16:56:10< anonymissimus> um, clarify: it is a new syntax for existing campaigns which need to be rewritten wml-wise t match this new syntax and needs to be enabled engine-wise as well so that it matches the rewritten wml and gets then used after this new syntax parsing
20111018 16:57:17< anonymissimus> but this GSoC project stopped somewhere in the midth since zaroth couldn't continue; I hope it'll be continued, was very promising
20111018 17:14:08< AI0867> I really need to check up on what happened during GSOC. I missed most of it
20111018 17:14:17< AI0867> I didn't even know we had a new network layer
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20111018 17:34:24< anonymissimus> zaroth impressed me, he spent several weeks just by becoming familiar with the code and then made a few changes without introdugin any problems :)
20111018 17:37:15< Rhonda> anonymissimus: I
20111018 17:37:24< Rhonda> anonymissimus: I'm wondering translation wise for in the manpage, yes. :)
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20111018 17:43:48< anonymissimus> Rhonda: while I have no clue about the translations, I doubt that it is of any relevance
20111018 17:44:21< anonymissimus> since the project only affetcs "test_campaign"
20111018 17:44:49< anonymissimus> which doesnt need to be translated and will be removed for the stable series I guess
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20111018 17:47:04< Rhonda> It is of relevance because it's mentioned in the manpage with just that short catch phrase.
20111018 17:47:20< Rhonda> If that switch is of no relevance the texting in the manpage should be vastly get improved.
20111018 17:48:29 * Rhonda . o O ( and don't mind my stupid grammar, my brain is rephrasing the text in my mind while I type already, and you can see what comes out of that  %-/ )
20111018 17:49:04< AI0867> some languages are more conductive to that than others
20111018 17:50:30< AI0867> starting wesnoth with --new-syntax causes an immediate segfault for me
20111018 17:50:49< AI0867> but I agree that his code is very nicely contained
20111018 17:51:06< AI0867> and even in such a way that some changes I made recently are incorporated in both versions
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20111018 17:56:15< Rhonda> If the switch isn't of any use I suggest dropping its documentation from the manpage.
20111018 17:57:08< Rhonda> Or add a boilerplate along the lines of "WARNING - if you use this switch it might eat your mother. And father. And grandparents. You've be warned."
20111018 17:58:17< Gambit> You are likely to be eaten by happygrue.
20111018 17:58:39< Gambit> Oh whoops he's here. (sorry for pinging you)
20111018 18:01:55< anonymissimus> hm maybe disable the switch for the stable series ?
20111018 18:02:41< anonymissimus> the project was left in its unfinished state since zaroth disappeared and was never decided what to do with it
20111018 18:03:02< Gambit> I hope Zaroth comes back. He was really cool.
20111018 18:03:31< anonymissimus> you are translating the wesnoth --help output or something ?
20111018 18:04:08< anonymissimus> yeah, would be cool if he continued his project
20111018 18:05:11< Rhonda> I'm translating wesnoth-manpages/de.po
20111018 18:09:26< AI0867> of course the grue is happy: my terminal background is black
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20111018 18:16:24< fendrin> wesbot: seen crab_ ?
20111018 18:16:25< wesbot> fendrin: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 1d 19h ago.  10h 40m ago they left with the message: Client Quit
20111018 18:16:29< fendrin> damn
20111018 18:16:32< fendrin> always miss him
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20111018 20:02:25< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: max, not min
20111018 20:07:43< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.ai0867.net/oos.png
20111018 20:11:28< AI0867> pango markup not working?
20111018 20:11:47< AI0867> is that a GUI2 dialog?
20111018 20:11:49< shadowmaster> that was there before
20111018 20:12:41< shadowmaster> it is, or my commit wouldn't have been necessary.
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20111018 20:15:15< shadowmaster> I'm not really sure why there's pango markup in that label in the first place. That's supposed to be an error log, and if the markup in question was working, it'd not look like such
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20111018 20:55:19< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: yeah, and 600px vertically are still more than the 480 available
20111018 20:55:24< Ivanovic> re, btw
20111018 20:58:54< shadowmaster> I don't think GUI2 is as dumb as you are suggesting, but people can always file reports against that and the other dialogs that use a max dimension.
20111018 20:59:53< shadowmaster> at least the campaign menu seems to prefer the minimum between the screen height and the maximum dialog height
20111018 21:00:07< anonymissimus> AI0867: lol, the healable->unhealable rename is about the moset senseless deprecation
20111018 21:00:38< anonymissimus> thats just because it makes the code easier on the engine side but putting work and confusion on wml authors
20111018 21:01:18< anonymissimus> about as bad as colour -> color
20111018 21:02:54< shadowmaster> there's nothing wrong with colour->color since it's just a consistency measure. Wesnoth is supposed to speak U.S. English, not U.K. English
20111018 21:03:54< anonymissimus> well, it is just breaking backwards compat for wml and lua without a valid enough reason imho
20111018 21:04:42< shadowmaster> consistency is a valid reason
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20111018 21:26:56< anonymissimus> what technical advantage do we get from this consistency ?
20111018 21:29:24< Soliton> are you asking why consistency is a good thing or are you trying to make a point?
20111018 21:29:30< anonymissimus> other than some ease of programming, but as AI0867 say, ease of programming is not the reason
20111018 21:31:08< anonymissimus> well I ask whether there's something which I dont know or understand about consistency...
20111018 21:37:15< CIA-64> ivanovic * r51535 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-nr/sk.po): updated Slovak translation
20111018 21:37:40< CIA-64> ivanovic * r51536 /branches/1.8/ (4 files in 3 dirs): updated Slovak translation
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20111018 22:23:45< Crab_> hi, fendrin - you were looking for me?
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20111018 22:52:35< Espreon> anonymissimus: Think about it...
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20111018 23:12:48< Alarantalara> anonymissimus: regarding unhealable, it has a functional impact. See http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=35136&p=510598#p510598 for an example
20111018 23:15:52< Alarantalara> call it an example of how consistency can make things work in unexpected places
20111018 23:15:56< anonymissimus> what about apply_to=status remove=healable ?
20111018 23:16:12< anonymissimus> in 1.8
20111018 23:16:26< Alarantalara> I'll test. Just a second
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20111018 23:17:58< Alarantalara> doesn't work
20111018 23:19:16< Alarantalara> :inspect implies that the status is removed from the list and not having it implies healable in this case
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20111018 23:50:40< fendrin> hi Crab_
20111018 23:50:54< fendrin> Crab_: Give me a minute, just arrived, please.
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20111018 23:57:58< fendrin> Crab_: Still around?
20111018 23:59:38< fendrin> Crab_: Anyway, I hope you read this. Ivanovic is aiming for a release with feature freeze in about ~2 weeks. That means we need either find a solution for MP campaigns or remove LoW MP from trunk. I am fine with either, just need to know how to proceed soon.
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