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20111023 00:04:59< ivanovic_pandora> for those reading the logs: other orgs agree with going for a dev room at fosdem!
20111023 00:05:20< ivanovic_pandora> application to fosdem folks was sent, results expected for 31st october
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20111023 00:22:15< AI0867> =)
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20111023 00:29:04< esr> fendrin: What's up?
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20111023 00:44:54< Espreon> esr: He was pointing you to this: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=510848#p510848 ... He suggested that you could help the artist with symbols and such.
20111023 00:56:07< anonymissimus> wesbot: seen thonsew
20111023 00:56:07< wesbot> anonymissimus: The person with the nick thonsew last spoke 23d 6h ago.  23d 6h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving
20111023 00:56:29< anonymissimus> hes got some unit map bugs to fix left
20111023 00:57:07< anonymissimus> ok 1 unit map and 1 color bug
20111023 00:58:52< shadowmaster> how likely is his return, anyway...
20111023 01:04:48-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 189 bugs, 335 feature requests, 15 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20111023 01:41:49< fendrin> esr: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=510848#p510848 The art thread for tHoT. The artists wants to know what symbol to put on the shields of masked dwarfs.
20111023 01:42:19< esr> fendrin: I have relied with suggestions.
20111023 01:42:39< fendrin> esr: I see.
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20111023 02:13:42< Alarantalara> anonymissimus: re bug 18701, I got it to work by making the scan for length optimistic, but that generates a new Lua error regarding a missing mandatory WML child
20111023 02:14:46< anonymissimus> yup thats not good
20111023 02:15:22< Alarantalara> it makes sense, since all the intervening children in the test case don't exist so trying to set the end result directly doesn't work
20111023 02:15:29< anonymissimus> missing mandatory wml childs are very bad; and to be honest, I don't feel motivated to fiddle with variables.cpp
20111023 02:16:05< Alarantalara> I do report the length as 0 correctly now though
20111023 02:16:06< anonymissimus> you should talk with Sapient, he's the primary author of that file
20111023 02:16:28< anonymissimus> IMHO we don't need to fix that bug, if he wants it fixed he shal do ti himself
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20111023 02:18:37< anonymissimus> and why you talk with me anyway ? I only deleted one line in variable.cpp thats all I understand of that file :)
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20111023 02:19:51< Alarantalara> I guess it was becuase you were the last perso to comment on it
20111023 02:20:03< Alarantalara> and I confused you with the original person to report the bug
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20111023 02:27:06< anonymissimus> remember that you will be held reponsible for any wml variable bugs caused by your changes^^
20111023 02:28:25< Alarantalara> You may have just scared me into submitting it as a patch rather than committing
20111023 02:28:43< Alarantalara> Though it now runs without errors in this case
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20111023 02:30:49< anonymissimus> well, you may post it as a patch in the bug thread
20111023 02:31:08< anonymissimus> I want Sapiant to do some work on his own ;)
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20111023 02:49:50< Alarantalara> anonymissimus: patch submitted. Someone else can tell me if I know what I'm doing
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20111023 03:00:39< Alarantalara> Oh yeah, I remember the other reason I asked you, anonymissimus
20111023 03:01:08< anonymissimus> Alarantalara: well the patch looks at least sooo much better than thonsew's revision
20111023 03:01:12< Alarantalara> It's possible to work around this in Lua by adding "or 0" in the case length returns nil
20111023 03:01:37< Alarantalara> since if the variable doesn't exist, append is equivalent to create
20111023 03:02:19< anonymissimus> may strcmp() instead of ==
20111023 03:02:44< Alarantalara> it's a std:string, so == is overloaded
20111023 03:03:26< anonymissimus> silene was preferable using strcmp() and char strings instead of std::strings
20111023 03:03:33< anonymissimus> the reason was that its faster IIRC
20111023 03:03:48< anonymissimus> char* pointers I mean
20111023 03:04:03< anonymissimus> however
20111023 03:05:11 * shadowmaster wishes Sirp was here.
20111023 03:06:17< anonymissimus> Alarantalara: what was the question now ?
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20111023 03:07:59< Alarantalara> This: http://pastebin.com/MPu0NDHY also removes the Lua error by converting append to replace if the container doesn't exist
20111023 03:08:59< Alarantalara> It doesn't change the behaviour of the C++ (still returns nil), but it makes the tag work properly in all cases
20111023 03:09:43< Alarantalara> I was wondering if it might be a better solution than fixing the bug
20111023 03:10:43< Alarantalara> or be worth doing in addition to fixing the bug
20111023 03:11:50< anonymissimus> hm with teh C++ fix the returned lenght is now 0 ?
20111023 03:12:19< Alarantalara> yes
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20111023 03:12:49< Alarantalara> I think
20111023 03:13:46< anonymissimus> well I dont see need for a lua modification then
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20111023 03:15:09< Alarantalara> It does require the patch be applied though
20111023 03:15:32< Alarantalara> Perhaps I'll submit the Lua change, and revert it in the patch
20111023 03:15:36< Alarantalara> as no longer need
20111023 03:15:39< Alarantalara> ed
20111023 03:17:43< anonymissimus> the C++ fix is good; there are often cases where you'd need several checks for .length just to avoid some stderr messages
20111023 03:17:51< anonymissimus> this can be done with a single one now
20111023 03:18:24< anonymissimus> and for store_unit I wonder whether we should simply forbit passing such a variable name
20111023 03:19:32< anonymissimus> if the array doesnt existn at least I'd expect that to cause problems
20111023 03:19:33< Alarantalara> I don't like that option. What if the user was trying to store a list of units associated with each side separately
20111023 03:20:25< Alarantalara> Having to specify a store unit without append first so that the later append works would lead to more complicated WML
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20111023 09:41:46< mordante> servus
20111023 09:42:46< mordante> anonymissimus well I just wonder whether it can be reproduced without debug mode and lua command line
20111023 09:43:13< mordante> for example the unit debug command can also have units with more than their max XP
20111023 09:43:35< mordante> so some debug commands use different code paths
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20111023 09:49:40< mordante> Espreon, I'll have a look later
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20111023 09:54:11< mordante> alarantalara regarding r51588 please also update the changelog
20111023 09:54:47< mordante> nice to hear about the fosdem Ivanovic 
20111023 09:57:57< mordante> anonymissimus why would strcmp() be faster as std::string's operator== ?
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20111023 13:26:47-!- mordante changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 189 bugs, 335 feature requests, 15 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20111023 14:52:17< anonymissimus> mordante: bug #18829, updated
20111023 14:52:51< anonymissimus> (a bit unwise to not trust me that it can be reproduced without debug mode imho...)
20111023 14:53:29< anonymissimus> since I used that attribute quite a lot in my mp addon and it's very likely I would have noticed it
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20111023 15:57:16< AI0867> 09:43 < mordante> for example the unit debug command can also have units with more than their max XP <-- WML can do the same thing with [unstore_unit] advance=no
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20111023 17:13:58< CIA-64> alarantalara * r51589 /trunk/ (changelog data/lua/wml-tags.lua players_changelog): Update changelog re r51588
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20111023 17:35:17< anonymissimus> wesbot: patch 2213
20111023 17:35:18< wesbot> Patch #2213  Assigned to: Ignacio R. Morelle <shadowmaster>  Status: Done  Priority: 5 - Normal
20111023 17:35:21< wesbot> Summary: Spelling fixes in Wesnoth sourcecode
20111023 17:35:23< wesbot> Original submission: 
20111023 17:35:26< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/patch/?2213
20111023 17:35:28< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/patch/download.php?file_id=11277
20111023 17:40:09< CIA-64> alarantalara * r51591 /trunk/ (changelog src/variable.cpp): fix bug 18701
20111023 17:40:17< Alarantalara> anonymissimus: spaient made me do it
20111023 17:46:40< anonymissimus> wesbot: log 11366
20111023 17:46:41< wesbot> jhinrichs * r11366 : implements observer pattern for ai.cpp with these events:- user_interact- unit_recruited- unit_moved- enemy_attackedremoves dependency of ai.cpp on playturn.hppremoves playturn.cpp out of editor buildfixes bug #5845 (menu doesn't open on ai turn)
20111023 17:46:45< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=11366
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20111023 18:54:07< anonymissimus> ifa project builds fine after removing a function, is it sure that the function was unused ? could there be cases where it was called nonetheless, in an inheritance tree with casting and such ?
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20111023 19:08:46< mordante> anonymissimus, I didn't know you used it more often, hence the question. In general bug reported in debug mode are looked at a bit skeptical
20111023 19:09:00< mordante> so I just asked to be sure
20111023 19:09:33< mordante> AI0867, I know IIRC I even added the key ;-)
20111023 19:10:44< mordante> anonymissimus, an inherited virtual function can be removed and the code used the virtual function of its base class
20111023 19:11:27< mordante> (and of course a function might be ifdef'ed out due to certain build options)
20111023 19:12:10< anonymissimus> ah yes, but the ifdef thing is unlikely
20111023 19:12:37< anonymissimus> I back myself up with 2 build systems and before important dcommit I also make a Linux built
20111023 19:12:58< mordante> we don't use it often, that's why I put it between parens
20111023 19:13:40< mordante> but the devdoc can be an aid for inheritance, for example http://devdocs.wesnoth.org/classgui2_1_1tlabel.html#a830d7448745c8f2e32925172e4898341
20111023 19:14:46< mordante> the Reimplemented line is generated by doxygen, the "Inherited from" was just comment in the source
20111023 19:15:15< mordante> s/"Inherited from twidget"
20111023 19:18:42< anonymissimus> mordante: well, in paritcular I noticed that playsingle_controller::handle_generic_event and some related stuff is unused; but it's part of a larger framework which I don't understand
20111023 19:18:55< anonymissimus> it's from 2006
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20111023 19:26:45< mordante> I'm also not familiar with that area
20111023 19:27:29< anonymissimus> it is used at other places though, mainly in teh ai area
20111023 19:28:34< anonymissimus> i let it in until I may understand it better
20111023 19:32:41< mordante> maybe you can ask yohihh for more information regarding the code
20111023 19:35:37< anonymissimus> his last commit was from, uh ? thats how it goes, authors disappear at some spot and then nobody knows the code they had written :(
20111023 19:36:03< mordante> yeah that's why proper documentation is so important
20111023 19:36:32< anonymissimus> ah ok 10.02.2011
20111023 19:36:41< anonymissimus> not as bad ;)
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20111023 19:49:10< CIA-64> mordante * r51593 /trunk/ (changelog src/reports.cpp src/text.cpp src/text.hpp): 
20111023 19:49:10< CIA-64> Disable pango formatting of unit names.
20111023 19:49:10< CIA-64> Since the markup is used it does so by escaping the markup characters in
20111023 19:49:10< CIA-64> the unit name. (Fixes bug #17788).
20111023 19:49:12< CIA-64> mordante * r51592 /trunk/src/whiteboard/manager.cpp: 
20111023 19:49:12< CIA-64> Avoid copying a singular iterator.
20111023 19:49:12< CIA-64> Gabba, tschitz please review whether the code is correct. It fixes some
20111023 19:49:12< CIA-64> abortions of Wesnoth when using the gcc debug containers due to
20111023 19:49:13< CIA-64> undefined behaviour.
20111023 19:49:13< CIA-64> mordante * r51594 /trunk/ (changelog src/ai/manager.cpp): 
20111023 19:49:14< CIA-64> Fixed display of AI values.
20111023 19:49:14< CIA-64> The display of recruitment_ignore_bad_combat and
20111023 19:49:15< CIA-64> recruitment_ignore_bad_movement is no longer swapped. Fixes bug #18839.
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20111023 20:02:07< iwontbecreative> Hi
20111023 20:02:28< iwontbecreative> Mordante: Any help needed atm with the python files?
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20111023 20:44:28< iwontbecreative> Hmmm
20111023 20:44:42< iwontbecreative> It looks like there's an issue with units.wesnoth.org
20111023 20:44:54< iwontbecreative> when looking at trunk
20111023 20:45:31< iwontbecreative> and clicking campagins, there's a lot of [MULTIPART_CAMPAIGN] [PART_1_OF_CAMPAIGN] rows
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20111023 20:47:36< ancestral> elias ^
20111023 20:48:43< stikonas> esr: Can I ask you a question on one Wesnoth name that I am translating?
20111023 20:48:57< elias> oh yeah, some addon campaign
20111023 20:49:34< stikonas> esr: a few months ago you have renamed Bjarn to Baran. But in Lithuanian language Baran would have strong assotiations with sheep.
20111023 20:49:58< stikonas> does something like Baren sound Wesnothish?
20111023 20:50:52< stikonas> (and I'm not suggesting to change English version)
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20111023 21:05:37< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: did you actually not know this with the public binary path ?
20111023 21:06:28< anonymissimus> you may have said it to use it as a shortcut however, but it's still bad to do it
20111023 21:07:23< anonymissimus> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=511038#p511038
20111023 21:13:32< esr> stikonas: "Baren" would fit Wesnothian OK.
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20111023 21:15:10< boucman_mobile> ivanovic_pandora, where are you ?
20111023 21:15:20< ivanovic_pandora> patent talk
20111023 21:15:25< ivanovic_pandora> now in lobby
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20111023 21:18:14< shadowmaster> anonymissimus: I vaguely recall silene babbling about something :)
20111023 21:20:31< shadowmaster> I like to see full paths as an alternative to consistency
20111023 21:20:39< shadowmaster> hence I almost never use them
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20111023 21:35:34< iwontbecreative> shadowmaster: Damn you changed terrain.cfg format
20111023 21:35:53< iwontbecreative> Updating terrain2wiki accordingly
20111023 21:36:02< shadowmaster> I did?
20111023 21:37:58< iwontbecreative> r50047 and r50048
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20111023 21:38:05< iwontbecreative> Not really a change in format
20111023 21:38:26< iwontbecreative> Just a change between name and editor_name if I understood well
20111023 21:38:30< iwontbecreative> Should be easy to fix
20111023 21:42:37< CIA-64> iwontbecreative * r51595 /trunk/data/tools/terrain2wiki.py: r50047 and r50048 changed terrain2wiki.py output. Fixing terrain2wiki.py to work with the terrain.cfg changes..
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20111023 21:49:36< CIA-64> iwontbecreative * r51596 /trunk/data/tools/terrain2wiki.py: Fixed an issue where terrain2wiki.py would not remove # wmllint: ignore from output
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20111023 21:50:56< shadowmaster> ah right, and I am still unsure what the correct syntax and in-game presentation should be
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20111023 22:10:02< iwontbecreative_> shadowmaster: if you change anythign and for some reason I don't see it, it's generally quite easy to edit terrain2wiki.py
20111023 22:10:12< iwontbecreative_> Was a one line change to fix it
20111023 22:10:24< shadowm_tty> who runs that and how often?
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20111023 22:11:34< CIA-64> iwontbecreative * r51597 /trunk/data/tools/terrain2wiki.py: Made terrain2wiki.py also show a picture of the terrain, looks better now.
20111023 22:12:15< iwontbecreative_> The chnges make the page a little more usefull http://wiki.wesnoth.org/TerrainCodeTableWML
20111023 22:12:31< iwontbecreative_> Not sure if there's still something that you want me to add
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20111023 22:13:09< shadowm_tty> I don't have anything in mind right now and I'm a little busy
20111023 22:17:58< mordante> iwontbecreative_, I don't have anything at the moment, maybe somebody else has, but not sure
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20111023 22:21:22< iwontbecreative_> mordante: Ok, I made some changes to terrain2wiki.py
20111023 22:22:02< iwontbecreative_> I think you asked for them a while ago and I had no idea how to do it
20111023 22:22:55< mordante> I can't remember but might be
20111023 22:23:12< CIA-64> iwontbecreative * r51598 /trunk/data/tools/terrain2wiki.py: Fix the picture for some special cases.
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20111023 22:31:31< mordante> wesbot tschmitz
20111023 22:31:39< mordante> wesbot seen tschmitz
20111023 22:31:39< wesbot> mordante: The person with the nick tschmitz last spoke 6d 1h ago.  5d 18h ago they left with the message: Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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20111023 23:00:22< ivanovic_pandora> mordante: should i find and ask gabba?
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20111023 23:58:18< mordante> ivanovic_pandora, would be nice
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