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20111030 00:26:31< CIA-64> fendrin * r51728 /trunk/src/actions.cpp: Changed the recruit list generation to be similar to the recall one.
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20111030 01:40:09< melinath> I've been looking into compiling wesnoth on mac os x lion, but I've been running into some issues.
20111030 01:40:27< melinath> The wiki page on compiling for mac has two options:
20111030 01:41:18< melinath> - Do it with XCode. This requires some sort of project file from Sithrandil which is supposed to be in the mac release
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20111030 01:41:22< melinath> but I can't find it.
20111030 01:42:13< evilshadowmaster> melinath: that's out of date; check projectfiles/Xcode/ in SVN trunk, it's maintained by the current packager (Alarantalara)
20111030 01:42:19< melinath> - Use scons or cmake. That would be great, but the instructions are actually for autotools, which was removed in 1.9.4
20111030 01:42:33< melinath> evilshadowmaster: kk, thanks.
20111030 01:43:35< evilshadowmaster> although it's out of date by less than 24 hours and you might need to add src/gui/dialogs/editor_uninstall_list.cpp to the project 
20111030 01:43:54< evilshadowmaster> I mean src/gui/dialogs/addon/uninstall_list.cpp
20111030 01:43:58< CIA-64> ai0867 * r51729 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/ (libsvn.py wescamp.py): Make libsvn's update() work as documented.
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20111030 02:03:15< anonymissimus> evilshadowmaster: why does code indentation in the forums nit support tabs ?
20111030 02:03:26< anonymissimus> thats been bothering me since ever
20111030 02:03:41< anonymissimus> whsn posting stuff in [code] tags
20111030 02:03:54< evilshadowmaster> it does support tabs
20111030 02:04:52< anonymissimus> but when I for example, mark some lines and then press tab nothing happens
20111030 02:05:04< anonymissimus> and this is firefox, should be no OS differences
20111030 02:05:09< evilshadowmaster> it won't preserve them, which is a different matter
20111030 02:05:28< evilshadowmaster> oh, please, do you think that in particular is within the forum software's reponsibility?
20111030 02:09:29< evilshadowmaster> I guess I'll make it clear then: web browsers already have a use for the Tab key, which is not inserting tabstops.
20111030 02:10:16< melinath> if you really want tabs, you should be able to copy and paste them.
20111030 02:10:21< anonymissimus> well, more precise: when I edit my posting in this "post a reply" form and press tab, it doesn't indent my writing or code
20111030 02:10:59< anonymissimus> but when I copy-paste somethign there it does; and I have no idea whether thats the forum software or firefox
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20111030 02:11:02< evilshadowmaster> yeah, it won't indent anything because, as I said, Tab has a different function in most web browsers, which is part of the keyboard navigation alternative
20111030 02:11:16< anonymissimus> not sure whether I've ever posted code in another forum
20111030 02:11:28< evilshadowmaster> no, that's Firefox preserving your tabstops from the clipboard buffer
20111030 02:11:46< evilshadowmaster> phpBB will not preserve them, however, and will convert them into &nbsp; and whitespace sequences for serialization
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20111030 02:27:06< melinath> evilshadowmaster: Well, I've got XCode mostly working... it seems determined to compile with clang, though, which is failing. Unclear if it's because it's clang.
20111030 02:27:21< melinath> but I know that I couldn't compile wesnoth with clang on linux in the past.
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20111030 02:39:37< evilshadowmaster> I don't know about that. You could ask Alarantalara when he's around.
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20111030 02:54:56< melinath> ok... getting there... just have to correct every single include. Fun!
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20111030 04:36:06< evilshadowmaster> So, there *is* a WML validation mechanism in mainline now? Where does it take schemata from?
20111030 04:36:36< evilshadowmaster> (I couldn't keep track of the GSoC project on WML validation this year.)
20111030 04:40:40< AI0867> same here
20111030 04:45:16< evilshadowmaster> Grr. There's a "null" theme for every single theme in mainline.
20111030 04:47:24< evilshadowmaster> As usual with theme WML and the supporting code, it's impossible to make the most natural assumptions and expect things to work, eh.
20111030 04:49:28< evilshadowmaster> Hm. No, I just missed a bang.
20111030 04:51:12< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51730 /trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): 
20111030 04:51:12< CIA-64> Added [theme] hidden= attribute that makes a theme unavailable for selection in Preferences or :theme (defaults to no)
20111030 04:51:12< CIA-64> The many "null" themes, and the editor theme make use of this now.
20111030 04:51:12< CIA-64> This could be useful for campaign cutscene themes, for example, which
20111030 04:51:12< CIA-64> shouldn't be used by users for regular gameplay.
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20111030 05:19:49< melinath> should all files in the src directory be included in an XCode project for a mac build?
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20111030 05:21:54< evilshadowmaster> Not all of them are required to compile the game, and some could even cause conflicts. You could take a look at CMakeLists.txt or SConscript to get an idea of what is used and what is not
20111030 05:22:16< evilshadowmaster> *src/CMakeLists.txt or src/SConscript
20111030 05:22:56< melinath> evilshadowmaster: mk, thanks.
20111030 05:23:04< evilshadowmaster> mordante: is there any built-in mechanism to tell whether a dialog has finished running its pre_show() code at the moment?
20111030 05:28:45< evilshadowmaster> Um, reading tdialog::show's implementation, I guess there is not.
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20111030 05:39:42< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51731 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/ (editor_settings.cpp editor_settings.hpp): gui2/teditor_settings: Do not commit display changes before pre_show() finishes or after post_show() has finished
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20111030 08:07:13< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51732 /trunk/src/theme.cpp: 
20111030 08:07:13< CIA-64> Reduce severity of the "Theme contains no label called FOO" warning
20111030 08:07:13< CIA-64> It's harmless and it's only triggered by the clock panel updates.
20111030 08:07:13< CIA-64> Pretty much everyone working on custom themes will be able to tell if
20111030 08:07:13< CIA-64> their clock is missing. I also have a legitimate use case where the lack
20111030 08:07:14< CIA-64> of one is highly desirable.
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20111030 08:47:51< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51733 /trunk/changelog: Align changelog header
20111030 08:47:59< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51734 /trunk/changelog: Fix (apparently my own) grammar fail in the changelog
20111030 08:48:13< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51735 /trunk/src/display.cpp: 
20111030 08:48:13< CIA-64> Skip rendering the minimap offscreen on 0x0 surfaces
20111030 08:48:13< CIA-64> This happens when using a theme with no minimap panel, previously
20111030 08:48:13< CIA-64> resulting in a spurious "Create an empty image" warning in stderr (from
20111030 08:48:13< CIA-64> sdl_utils.cpp scale_surface() function). There's no need to waste time
20111030 08:48:14< CIA-64> doing math on an empty surface and getting in my way with user reports
20111030 08:48:15< CIA-64> about harmless warnings in my campaign.
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20111030 09:28:43< evilshadowmaster> Well, yay, one of my campaign's most critical scenarios breaks on 1.9.9+svn causing a massive loss of stored player units :/
20111030 09:32:18< evilshadowmaster> there seems to be something funny going on in 1.9.9 too resulting in a WML container array reporting .length of zero and .length of one in 1.9.9+svn; the difference being that the unstore_unit loop successfully unstores everyone in 1.9.9 but not in 1.9.9+svn
20111030 09:33:55< evilshadowmaster> the container is .length > 1, looking in :inspect.
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20111030 09:51:14< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51736 /trunk/ (changelog src/playsingle_controller.cpp): 
20111030 09:51:14< CIA-64> Fix a very rare theme GUI glitch causing menus and buttons to be temporarily visible as solid color rectangles at the start of a scenario start event
20111030 09:51:14< CIA-64> In mainline, it could be reproduced in Dead Water scenario 1 at least.
20111030 09:51:14< CIA-64> (I tried hard to find this in the bug tracker as I was sure it was filed
20111030 09:51:14< CIA-64> before, but I couldn't locate any relevant entries.)
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20111030 11:35:30< CIA-64> mordante * r51738 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20111030 11:35:30< CIA-64> Add the get_selected_terrain function.
20111030 11:35:31< CIA-64> Avoiding the report functions to directly access a not explicitly
20111030 11:35:31< CIA-64> exported variable. (The solution is not beautiful as well, but better
20111030 11:35:31< CIA-64> as the previous hack.)
20111030 11:35:31< CIA-64> mordante * r51737 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20111030 11:35:31< CIA-64> Add the get_left_button_function function.
20111030 11:35:32< CIA-64> Avoiding the report functions to directly access a not explicitly
20111030 11:35:33< CIA-64> exported variable. (The solution is not beautiful as well, but better
20111030 11:35:33< CIA-64> as the previous hack.)
20111030 11:35:34< CIA-64> mordante * r51739 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Strip trailing whitespace.
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20111030 11:59:21< Ivanovic> moin
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20111030 14:04:19< CIA-64> mordante * r51740 /trunk/src/tests/gui/ (test_gui2.cpp visitor.cpp): 
20111030 14:04:19< CIA-64> Fix compilation in c++0x mode.
20111030 14:04:19< CIA-64> Replaces the deprecated std::auto_ptr with boost::scoped_ptr.
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20111030 16:41:23< alink> hi
20111030 16:41:48< fabi_> hi alink
20111030 16:42:55< Ivanovic> hi alink, nice to see you around again!
20111030 16:43:21< alink> yeah long time no see
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20111030 16:57:25< anonymissimus> alink :) :) :)
20111030 16:57:42< alink> anonymissimus: :)))
20111030 17:01:30< anonymissimus> alink: do you remember why you limited the select event to one's own units ? specifically, line line 614 in mouse_events.cpp, there's the condition
20111030 17:02:24< anonymissimus> that was a feature request someone asked me for and I couldn't find a reason for this limitation, however needed to assume you had one
20111030 17:04:00< alink> mmh I think I had one, or that it was supposed to work like that before I touch that code.
20111030 17:04:22 * alink is trying to remember
20111030 17:09:53< alink> select events were really annoying, but looking that code it maybe only prevent anim stuff
20111030 17:11:11< alink> at the time where we introduced selection animation, we were discussing sound/anim à la RTS where the unit react to your selection and prepare to obey
20111030 17:11:37< alink> obviously enemy unit must not do that
20111030 17:12:15< alink> and even now the sound and white flash act as a cue that you selected one of your unit
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20111030 17:18:55< alink> the tricky thing with select event is that some WML only want that you move a selected unit, that means checking that all UI actions (mouse click but also "next unit" and things like that) must trigger the event
20111030 17:19:57< alink> and it was sometimes a problem because you can do such action even at times when the engine is not ready to fire select event
20111030 17:21:01< alink> not sure if we ever handled all such cases but that was a goal when working with select event
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20111030 17:23:46< fendrin> wesbot: seen yogihh?
20111030 17:23:47< wesbot> fendrin: The person with the nick YogiHH 18h 26m ago they left with the message: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 7.0.1/20110928134238]
20111030 17:25:21< vultraz> wesbot: seen zaroth?
20111030 17:25:21< wesbot> vultraz: Sorry, I don't know of zaroth.
20111030 17:27:00< Crendgrim> alink: so there's basically very little hope to get the select event working correctly with enemy units?
20111030 17:28:24< alink> Crendgrim: no, it's easy to change (1 line to move) and probably safe, but that's a tricky event, so need to be cautious
20111030 17:29:15< alink> and of course, all old WML not checking side of select events will need to be updated
20111030 17:29:36< Crendgrim> I see.
20111030 17:29:52< Crendgrim> so, mostly what anonymissimus already guessed
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20111030 17:32:22< alink> yeah, i didn't follow wesnoth for months and I suspect that all the new stuff (like whiteboard) is already very relax about select event, so maybe no need to be cautious
20111030 17:45:08< alink> anonymissimus: seeing my old commit, it seems that I didn't introduced the limitation, the old behavior was only fire "select" for unit of the side currently active, meaning only allowing enemy selection during its turn (which was incorrect since user is spectator)
20111030 17:45:25< alink> wesbot: log r21485
20111030 17:45:27< wesbot> alink * r21485 : Reorganize/clean the code for selecting an unit.This fix various little inconsistencies between mouse-select and next-unit-select(directly update new foosteps, show attack options, select anim+sound...)Probably fixed a not-confirmed bug allowing to fire select event on enemy units(when observing its turn)PS : good thing, these new select anim+sound show you when you fire such events
20111030 17:45:33< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=21485
20111030 17:46:27< anonymissimus> alink: ok so ti seems the limitation is there for the set_selecting and play_sound stuff but doesn't make sense to limit the wml event as well ?
20111030 17:46:32< alink> and I see that my memory about the  link with anim was not far off
20111030 17:47:32< alink> well, depends what the wiki says, I only followed what the code already did (plus fixed the spectator bug)
20111030 17:47:36< anonymissimus> then we are fine by extending the event and making changelog entry that people nee dto update their select events
20111030 17:48:03< alink> but yeah seems to be an ok change
20111030 17:49:30< alink> at least it has potential to be useful, so any future bug(fix) may be worth it
20111030 17:50:16< anonymissimus> the existing wiki doc doesnt mention any limitation of the selected unit
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20111030 17:51:23< anonymissimus> this is also FR bug #18556 which I assigned to you btw
20111030 17:51:43< Espreon> fendrin: I am now.
20111030 17:51:57< zookeeper> sounds more like a question of how we define what selecting a unit means.
20111030 17:52:07< alink> oh I sill have bugs assigned to me? I need to clean that 
20111030 17:52:12< alink> s/sill/still
20111030 17:52:18< anonymissimus> only FRs
20111030 17:52:34< zookeeper> saying that you can only select your own units is what i think is the intuitive definition
20111030 17:53:02< anonymissimus> zookeeper: but that limits the event usefullness severely
20111030 17:53:11< anonymissimus> and any wml can easily make a filter
20111030 17:53:21< Espreon> alink: Oh, hi.
20111030 17:53:32< anonymissimus> side=$side_number
20111030 17:53:36< alink> zookeeper: i agree, depends if we want to give more power to WML i guess
20111030 17:53:41< alink> Espreon: hi
20111030 17:54:19< anonymissimus> despite, Crendgrim has a valid usecase for this
20111030 17:54:25< zookeeper> anonymissimus, sure, but that doesn't mean you have to change the current event. you can just as well add a new event type which works on any unit.
20111030 17:54:39< alink> anonymissimus: FYI , I didn't introduced select event
20111030 17:55:11< anonymissimus> zookeeper: ??? thats redundancy
20111030 17:55:19< Crendgrim> so, e.g. "select" and "selectunit"? That doesn't sound too intuitive either :/
20111030 17:56:13< Espreon> Ivanovic: Yeah, CVS is a rather common pharmacy chain. Also, tee hee hee.
20111030 17:56:15< anonymissimus> I wonder how many select events there are in mainline, I guess none ;)
20111030 17:56:49< Crendgrim> I expect the tutorial to use them a lot
20111030 17:57:43< alink> zookeeper has a point, it's not a real selection, maybe add a "click" event, you can even handle empty hex for special terrain stuff if you really want WML power
20111030 17:59:09< alink> in fact handling empty hex allow to create any hex-based game, assuming that you are a WML god
20111030 17:59:49< anonymissimus> there are some select events in mainline yes, in test scenario, tutorial and ai_controller
20111030 18:00:00< anonymissimus> none in campaigns and mp scenarios
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20111030 18:12:26< fendrin> Espreon: fixed your recalling bug.
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20111030 18:13:26< Espreon> Ah, cool.
20111030 18:13:30< Espreon> Thanks.
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20111030 18:14:05< fendrin> Espreon: Can you confirm the bug is fixed?
20111030 18:14:12< Espreon> Sure.
20111030 18:14:15< Espreon> Just lemme recompile.
20111030 18:17:07< Ivanovic> Espreon: you got no idea how happy i was yesterday in the morning to have decent rolls as breakfast
20111030 18:17:32< Ivanovic> rolls with mett and fresh onions!
20111030 18:17:34< Espreon> Note that we don't eat measely pastries for breakfast.
20111030 18:17:37< Ivanovic> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett
20111030 18:18:28< Ivanovic> and, the most important part: decent tea with (rock sugar) that is actually sweet
20111030 18:18:42< Ivanovic> not the "non sweetening" sugar that you basically find in the US...
20111030 18:18:59< Espreon> Here, there are two things: real sugar and artifical sweeteners.
20111030 18:19:05< Espreon> You probably took the latter.
20111030 18:19:26< Ivanovic> Espreon: the stuff i had there was marked as "real sugar", but it was actually not as sweet as the real stuff you got in germany
20111030 18:19:42< Ivanovic> i had some 5 packages of that stuff in my tea and it was not getting sweet at all
20111030 18:19:46< Espreon> Even then, not all brands od sugar ar equal.
20111030 18:19:53< Espreon> *of sugar are
20111030 18:20:13< Espreon> Also, you put sugar in your tea?
20111030 18:20:14< Espreon> Really?
20111030 18:20:26< Ivanovic> Espreon: but the sugar not beeing sweet explains why people think that european sweets are this sweet
20111030 18:20:36< Ivanovic> we just use "real" sugar that actually is sweet
20111030 18:20:38< Ivanovic> ;)
20111030 18:20:47< Ivanovic> Espreon: i put rock sugar as well as milk into my tea
20111030 18:20:53< Ivanovic> black tea that is
20111030 18:21:05< Espreon> Milk too?
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20111030 18:21:09< Ivanovic> (earl gray when at home / i can get it to be more precise
20111030 18:21:41< Espreon> I just brew my tea and drink it.
20111030 18:22:29< Ivanovic> get some earl gray, brew it, put some white rock sugar into it (i tend to put ~9 cubes of it into a can which takes about 1.6l of water/tea) and pour some milk in
20111030 18:22:34< Ivanovic> lovely as breakfast
20111030 18:22:42< Espreon> I will never put milk in my tea.
20111030 18:23:19< fendrin> black tea with milk and sugar is my favorite morning drink.
20111030 18:24:18< Ivanovic> fendrin: that is basically all the stuff that forms my usual breakfast
20111030 18:24:26< Ivanovic> unless there are fresh rolls and mett available...
20111030 18:24:28< Ivanovic> ;)
20111030 18:24:28< Espreon> You people are crazy.
20111030 18:27:06< Espreon> My tea need not be liquid candy.
20111030 18:27:32< Ivanovic> Espreon: it is not heavily sweetend
20111030 18:27:41< Espreon> Right...
20111030 18:27:45< Ivanovic> honestly, 9 cubes of rock sugar on about 8 cups
20111030 18:28:04< Ivanovic> (yeah, i tend to use those rather largish 200ml cups)
20111030 18:28:08< Espreon> Gasp.
20111030 18:28:39< Espreon> Nine cubes...
20111030 18:28:39 * anonymissimus thinks that Espreon should favor English breakfast style
20111030 18:29:09< anonymissimus> for staying in line ;)
20111030 18:29:32< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: personally i don't care much (at all) for the rest of the breakfast
20111030 18:29:44< Espreon> anonymissimus: LOL, wut?
20111030 18:29:55< Ivanovic> that is: when available i tend to eat some pastries or fruits, yeah (as well as the german "mettbrötchen") but thats basically it
20111030 18:30:43< zookeeper> when available, i eat proper real warm food for breakfast. everything else is just a weak substitute :/
20111030 18:31:26< Espreon> zookeeper: I'm with you.
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20111030 18:38:26< Espreon> fendrin: And it was fixed.
20111030 18:40:49< fendrin> Espreon: I hope so. The recruit recall things are complicated. I guess there are 30 more cases I didn't even think about.
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20111030 18:49:13< Crendgrim> I love the discussions in this channel.
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20111030 19:57:57< evilshadowmaster> Espreon: could you take care of updating the UI Style Guide, though?
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20111030 19:58:16< evilshadowmaster> basically, checkboxes should use Sentence case, and probably slider labels should as well
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20111030 20:42:12< CIA-64> alink * r51742 /trunk/data/themes/editor.cfg: 
20111030 20:42:12< CIA-64> Add a menu item to expose the "Refresh WML" (F5) in editor
20111030 20:42:12< CIA-64> This finally finish bug #16689
20111030 20:42:29< evilshadowmaster> alink! :D
20111030 20:43:23< alink> evilshadowmaster!!!
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20111030 20:46:51< timotei> hi there alink  :)
20111030 20:46:52< timotei> welcome back
20111030 20:47:07< alink> hi timotei
20111030 20:47:48< alink> well not fully back, but I plan to at least fix few things
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20111030 21:11:06< anonymissimus> alink: we are ~1 week before 1.10 feature freeze FYI
20111030 21:11:56< alink> anonymissimus: thanks, that's about what I had in mind. Short time
20111030 21:16:37< evilshadowmaster> ooooo, the hideous listbox_text toggle_button is used in the language selection dialog.
20111030 21:16:45< evilshadowmaster> how quaint
20111030 21:17:36< evilshadowmaster> Because I have been using default labels and queries for the currently selected row number to achieve that instead.
20111030 21:28:08< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51743 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gui2: Converted instances of Title Case in checkbox labels to Sentence case per upcoming UI Style Guide change
20111030 21:28:31< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51744 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/editor_settings.cfg: gui2: Converted slider label from Title Case to Sentence case
20111030 21:30:41< timotei> anonymissimus: but if there's something which needs to be done, can't it be delayed a bit? :P
20111030 21:31:27< anonymissimus> timotei: sure, but is there something ?
20111030 21:31:41< anonymissimus> or I think it can
20111030 21:31:56 * anonymissimus is not the one who decides this
20111030 21:31:59< timotei> anonymissimus: I was saying that just related to whether alink has enough time or not to implement what he thought of :P
20111030 21:32:25< anonymissimus> well, alink was away for 1 year
20111030 21:32:35< anonymissimus> he's got to catch up a lot
20111030 21:33:39< alink> wow so long!
20111030 21:33:45< timotei> :P
20111030 21:35:05< SigurdFireDragon> anonymissimus: I've been looking into #18868, I think I could write a patch, thought I'll have a question or two about it tomorrow
20111030 21:35:48< timotei> Ok... so Mac OS is ... cooler than Windows
20111030 21:36:00< timotei> and better
20111030 21:36:01< timotei> xD
20111030 21:36:15< evilshadowmaster> I guess you mean Mac OS X.
20111030 21:36:17< timotei> and more user-friendly than any linux friendly
20111030 21:36:25< timotei> any Mac OS :)
20111030 21:36:45< alink> what wesnoth is affected by qwerty issue? As an azerty user, I am sad.
20111030 21:36:58< timotei> But yeah... probably because I tested just Lion, that's only Mac OS X
20111030 21:37:01< evilshadowmaster> timotei: ah, so you have used Mac OS 9?
20111030 21:37:28< evilshadowmaster> I like to remind people that Mac OS X is very different to the "classic" Mac OS
20111030 21:37:31< Gambit> I have!
20111030 21:37:33< timotei> Yeah
20111030 21:38:16< Gambit> They had those for a year at school and then they realized how difficult it would be to find people to service all X hundred
20111030 21:38:18< timotei> evilshadowmaster: and yeah, I've used Mac OS 9 too ;)
20111030 21:38:21< timotei> on a PSP
20111030 21:38:54< timotei> Anyway, a better experience so far than on Windows/Linux
20111030 21:39:08< timotei> But it's hard to get acustomed to the "it just works" way
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20111030 21:44:46< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51745 /trunk/ (src/game_preferences_display.cpp utils/pofix.py): Preferences: Converted instances of Title Case in checkbox and slider labels to Sentence case per upcoming UI Style Guide change
20111030 21:49:10< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51746 /trunk/src/game_preferences_display.cpp: Preferences: Missing conversion in previous commit that was added to pofix
20111030 21:52:21< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51747 /trunk/ (src/multiplayer_lobby.cpp utils/pofix.py): Lobby: Converted instances of Title Case in checkbox labels to Sentence case per upcoming UI Style Guide change
20111030 21:54:40< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51748 /trunk/utils/pofix.py: pofix: Oops, removed empty rules
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20111030 21:59:13< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51749 /trunk/ (src/mapgen_dialog.cpp utils/pofix.py): Map generator: Converted instances of Title Case in checkbox and slider labels to Sentence case per upcoming UI Style Guide change
20111030 22:00:42< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51750 /trunk/utils/pofix.py: pofix: Reconcile conflicting rules
20111030 22:08:54< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: Sure.
20111030 22:10:19< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51751 /trunk/ (src/multiplayer_create.cpp utils/pofix.py): MP game setup: Converted instances of Title Case in checkbox and slider labels to Sentence case per upcoming UI Style Guide change
20111030 22:10:29< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: "Hz" should still be "Hz"
20111030 22:10:33< evilshadowmaster> foo
20111030 22:11:47< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51752 /trunk/ (src/game_preferences_display.cpp utils/pofix.py): Preferences: According to Espreon, Hz (abbrev. of Hertz) should stay capitalized
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20111030 22:21:10< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: And ydone. Now I have to do shoveling... yay...
20111030 22:21:54< evilshadowmaster> thanks
20111030 22:21:59< Espreon> No prob.
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20111030 22:22:48< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: I hope you didn't add gratuitous rules. Of course, the rules are useless if what is being changed isn't in the po/pot files.
20111030 22:23:04< Espreon> Then again, we probably have so many gratuitous rules, so... blargh.
20111030 22:23:14< Espreon> Now to actually run pofix.
20111030 22:23:33< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: Only wesnoth and wesnoth-lib, yes?
20111030 22:23:53< evilshadowmaster> Espreon: please wait until I'm finished
20111030 22:24:00< Espreon> Oh, OK.
20111030 22:24:07< Espreon> Please ping me when you're done.
20111030 22:24:08< evilshadowmaster> and what do you mean by "gratuitous rules"?
20111030 22:24:22< evilshadowmaster> of course everything that's being changed is queried via gettext, because they are UI elements
20111030 22:24:28< Espreon> Rules that change stuff that aren't actually in the po/pot files.
20111030 22:24:29< evilshadowmaster> if something *isn't*, then that should be fixed ASAP
20111030 22:24:46< evilshadowmaster> all UI elements are supposed to be translatable!
20111030 22:25:01< Espreon> Yeah, but maybe you changed stuff after the last pot-update.
20111030 22:26:17< evilshadowmaster> I think all the changes after the last pot-update were semantic changes
20111030 22:26:21< evilshadowmaster> I'm not adding those to pofix
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20111030 22:26:48< Espreon> Well, of course.
20111030 22:26:55< Espreon> ... you shouldn't add those.
20111030 22:27:04< Espreon> Eh, don't worry about it.
20111030 22:27:23< Espreon> I'll see what happens.
20111030 22:27:26< evilshadowmaster> I know it doesn't make sense to add those.
20111030 22:27:29< Espreon> ... and deal with it.
20111030 22:27:29< evilshadowmaster> <.<
20111030 22:27:34< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51753 /trunk/ (data/advanced_preferences.cfg utils/pofix.py): Advanced Preferences: Converted instances of Title Case in checkbox and slider labels to Sentence case per upcoming UI Style Guide change
20111030 22:27:39< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: I wasn't talking about those, though.
20111030 22:27:54< evilshadowmaster> okay, then I don't know
20111030 22:28:05< Espreon> As I said, don't worry.
20111030 22:28:10< Espreon> I'll see what happens and deal with it.
20111030 22:28:23< evilshadowmaster> I *think* I'm finished, but I'm not sure.
20111030 22:28:34< Espreon> Well, I have to shovel... so yeah.
20111030 22:28:38< Espreon> Bye for now.
20111030 22:31:14< evilshadowmaster> ah, there's some hardcoded strings hiding amongst the GUI2 dialogs' C++
20111030 22:35:33< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51754 /trunk/ (src/dialogs.cpp src/gui/dialogs/game_load.cpp utils/pofix.py): 
20111030 22:35:33< CIA-64> Load Game: convert "Scenario start" savegame designation to use Sentence case as the recently introduced "Test scenario" already does
20111030 22:35:33< CIA-64> Also added pofix rule for the two textdomains where this appears.
20111030 22:37:57< evilshadowmaster> Espreon: is "Fog of War" supposed to be capitalized as such in Sentence case?
20111030 22:38:43< evilshadowmaster> apparently the Wikipedia article doesn't capitalize it at all. Hilariously enough, there's a Wesnoth screenshot in it too.
20111030 22:40:07< ancestral> Shouldn't be capitalized. Unless it's trademarked by Blizzard Entertainment…
20111030 22:41:00< evilshadowmaster> "The term is ascribed to the Prussian military analyst Carl von Clausewitz"
20111030 22:41:52< evilshadowmaster> interesting
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20111030 22:42:53< ancestral> Paradox Interactive uses a gaming engine called Clausewitz
20111030 22:44:46< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51755 /trunk/ (data/gui/default/window/mp_create_game.cfg utils/pofix.py): gui2/tmp_create_game: Converted instances of Title Case in checkbox and slider labels to Sentence case per upcoming UI Style Guide change
20111030 22:47:02< evilshadowmaster> Espreon: now it should be finished
20111030 22:47:06< Espreon> OK.
20111030 22:47:41< evilshadowmaster> Espreon: wait wait
20111030 22:47:54< evilshadowmaster> "Checkbox labels use sentence case and are followed by a colon." no no no no no no
20111030 22:48:01< evilshadowmaster> checkbox labels aren't always followed by a colon
20111030 22:48:04< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: To explain what I meant earlier, I meant a scenario like this: Ivanovic runs pot-update, you change capitalization in a string, and then you change it again and base the rule off of your earlier change.
20111030 22:48:17< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: I didn't put it there. Guess I'll kill it.
20111030 22:48:17< evilshadowmaster> they only are if they are adjacent to the left of a control that's governed by their status
20111030 22:48:41< evilshadowmaster> the ASCII drawings below are also utterly wrong and don't reflect GUI1 or GUI2 at all
20111030 22:49:16< Espreon> I'm not an ASCII artist. You change those.
20111030 22:49:19< evilshadowmaster> Espreon: I think I still don't understand. Your scenario is too much for my little caveman mind.
20111030 22:49:36< evilshadowmaster> Espreon: come on, just move the _X_ to the left and remove the colons
20111030 22:49:54< Espreon> And now I have to fetch my brothers. So, you change it.
20111030 22:50:42< evilshadowmaster> ¬_¬
20111030 22:52:21< alink> evilshadowmaster: I also have this http://pastebin.com/TdGjrg9v  how did you solved it ?
20111030 22:52:47< alink> (sometimes google is scary)
20111030 22:53:09< evilshadowmaster> Hm, I don't know. Pretty much no-one touches src/lua since we didn't write that code.
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20111030 22:54:07< alink> ok, it worked earlier today, probably something stupid with my IDE
20111030 22:54:57< evilshadowmaster> oh, I created that paste? :)
20111030 22:55:05< alink> yes :)
20111030 22:55:24< alink> maybe warning should be disabled for /lua
20111030 22:56:28< evilshadowmaster> I don't see that being a problem unless using strict compilation, but perhaps that's already disabled in cmake and scons for that dir.
20111030 23:00:20< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: OK, I'm back.
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20111030 23:00:23< Espreon> Did you change it?
20111030 23:00:28< evilshadowmaster> yes
20111030 23:00:39< Espreon> All right. Sorry about that.
20111030 23:01:00< Espreon> evilshadowmaster: You're done now, yes?
20111030 23:01:19< evilshadowmaster> I *think* so. If anything else comes up you should report it to me ASAP.
20111030 23:01:27< Espreon> OK.
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20111030 23:19:27< CIA-64> shadowmaster * r51756 /trunk/changelog: Spelling fix in the 1.9.9 changelog: [end_level] is still [endlevel]
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20111030 23:24:09< evilshadowmaster> anonymissimus: is the variable .length bug completely fixed yet?
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20111030 23:34:21< anonymissimus> evilshadowmaster: no idea, you need to ask Alarantalara 
20111030 23:34:38< anonymissimus> I have nothing to do with it
20111030 23:34:54< evilshadowmaster> Alarantalara: anonymissimus says I should ask you whether the .length bug is completely fixed.
20111030 23:35:49< Alarantalara> It works for all cases I've been able to come up with, but I don't promise it's completely tested
20111030 23:37:02< evilshadowmaster> Okay, I think I have a case where it doesn't. I'll isolate the problematic code later.
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20111030 23:45:42< alink> so, i fixed my lua build error. It was because I switched CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE from Debug to Release. Switch back to Debug fixed that.
20111030 23:46:12< alink> well, at least it looks like it was that.
20111030 23:46:45< alink> (error was in luaK_exp2RK for records)
20111030 23:49:09< CIA-64> fendrin * r51757 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter1/03_Kalian_under_Attack.cfg: LoW 03: Redone unit setup.
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