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20111024 17:57:05< Jon2> Hi all, I have this revolutionary idea for simultaneous turn-based time-keeping. Anybody interested to chat up about it? I just posted it on forums too.
20111024 17:59:47< Jon2> hello? anybody?
20111024 17:59:51< Crendgrim> tbh, I don't really see how your assumptions fit with how Wesnoth works...
20111024 18:00:19< Crendgrim> I mean, I didn't read all
20111024 18:00:56< Crendgrim> but after the first paragraph I really wonder whether you wrote that post based on Wesnoth?
20111024 18:02:21< Crendgrim> 1. horses don't get the hit-and-run ability on leveling up; 2. you plan after the enemy moves (so the swordsman-horse-thing isn't clear to me)...
20111024 18:03:31< Crendgrim> Jon2: ^
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20111024 18:21:00< Jon2> yeah, i wrote it in response to Civ 5 issues. Sorry.
20111024 18:21:46< Crendgrim> so, do you want to create your own game?
20111024 18:22:01< Jon2> But still, the premise is the same for Wesnoth. Whether it be faster units chasing slower ones, or making units move/fight more realistically, it applies.
20111024 18:22:14< Jon2> Make my own? I'm hoping to contribute to Wesnoth.
20111024 18:23:05< Crendgrim> then please explain what exactly your idea is..
20111024 18:23:12< Crendgrim> I'm sorry, but I'm not really getting it :/
20111024 18:23:19< Jon2> I think i need to rewrite my post...
20111024 18:23:32< Crendgrim> do you want to allow players doing their turns at the same time?
20111024 18:23:49< Jon2> yes! But it's a planning phase. Then execution phase.
20111024 18:23:56< Jon2> I'm rewriting my dumb post as we speak...
20111024 18:23:58< Crendgrim> then you're too late :p
20111024 18:24:11< Crendgrim> in 1.9 there is a new mode implemented, called "Whiteboard"
20111024 18:24:11< Jon2> huh? it's been done? I can play it now? :)
20111024 18:24:34< Crendgrim> it's probably not exactly what you're looking for, but it allows you to plan your moves, recruits and all for multiple turns
20111024 18:24:42< Jon2> oh yeah! Is it what I have in mind? I plan, u plan, the execution phase moves our units to same hex to fight?
20111024 18:25:29< Jon2> oh. then it's not the same. The main difference is amply explained with 2 units in my post, one with speed 1 and another with speed 2.
20111024 18:25:30< Crendgrim> well, you may try out Wesnoth 1.9.9 (current development release) and see yourself
20111024 18:25:53< Jon2> Plus a 3rd unit to back up the swordsman. So, pikeman and swordsman on one side, and the horse on another player side.
20111024 18:25:59< Crendgrim> and that's exactly what I don't really understand... :/
20111024 18:26:08< Crendgrim> well, I'll probably wait until you rewrote the post
20111024 18:26:16< Jon2> ok ok, help me get my dumb thoughts straight. Which part is terribly vague?
20111024 18:26:25< Jon2> Oh.. ok, re-writing now...
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20111024 19:15:59< Jon2> hi Crendgrim. I rewrote my post properly.
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20111024 19:18:02< Crendgrim> your initial assumption is wrong
20111024 19:18:16< Jon2> oh... lemme see.
20111024 19:18:24< Jon2> oh, how so?
20111024 19:18:38< Crendgrim> I don't remember any scenario where one player had a unit and did not want to attack his opponent..
20111024 19:18:51< Crendgrim> because you don't have *one* unit, but *multiple* units
20111024 19:19:16< Crendgrim> so, the only cases where you don't attack is if you attack at another place, and don't have enough units to put pressure on both flanks
20111024 19:19:19< Jon2> Erm, but attack can only be done if a unit steps forward for me to hit it, right?
20111024 19:19:26< Crendgrim> yes
20111024 19:19:30< Crendgrim> and?
20111024 19:19:37< Crendgrim> it then will be covered by other units
20111024 19:19:44< Crendgrim> Wesnoth isn't about unit vs unit, but army vs army
20111024 19:19:56< Jon2> if I move forward first, then i will be hit. And archers behind have range of 2 only.
20111024 19:20:15< Crendgrim> eh
20111024 19:20:22< Crendgrim> did you actually play Wesnoth?
20111024 19:20:25< Jon2> ok ok, i admit, I'm not a grandmaster at Wesnoth tactics, but is the rest of my post valid enough?
20111024 19:20:57< Jon2> Yes, i played it a few times. First scenario, orcs and stuff. I didn't "count turns", so my soldiers ended up "moving forward to eat punches"
20111024 19:21:01< Crendgrim> I mean, you don't move on the same hex of another unit to attack it.. someone the first paragraph of "avoiding ..." seems to say that..
20111024 19:21:11< Crendgrim> s/someone/somehow/
20111024 19:21:41< Jon2> Oh no, that first paragraph deals with an existing and debilitating problem that my suggested "simultaneous turn-based" time-keeping has.
20111024 19:21:45< Crendgrim> ahhh
20111024 19:21:48< Crendgrim> now I get it, sorry
20111024 19:22:01< Jon2> it's ok. I'm just glad I make sense and didn't yet bore you.
20111024 19:23:21< Crendgrim> I'm currently struggling to understand what your idea is..
20111024 19:23:35< Crendgrim> do you want to have a different implementation of a turn-based game?
20111024 19:23:39< Jon2> rewriting section 1. Try starting from section 2?
20111024 19:23:55< Jon2> yep yep, Each turn is executed as Plan-Execute phases.
20111024 19:24:03< Crendgrim> with two separated phases, one planning phase (both players) and one execution phase (where both players' units move)?
20111024 19:24:18< VurtualRuler98> how about full desktop wesnoth on android
20111024 19:24:21< Jon2> yes!
20111024 19:24:29< Crendgrim> VurtualRuler98: :D
20111024 19:24:38< Crendgrim> so, yeah, Jon2 ... that would be a totally different game
20111024 19:24:56< VurtualRuler98> like, seriously
20111024 19:25:09< Crendgrim> thus it's very, very, very, very ... very [think of a few very's inbetween] unlikely that this is going to happen with Wesnoth.
20111024 19:25:09< VurtualRuler98> phones are out there that can run it, quake 3 runs on phones... but quake 3 runs on everything so
20111024 19:25:18< Jon2> And, is it viable (reading rest of my post)? Or just plain silly and full of holes?
20111024 19:25:33< Crendgrim> I mean, you try to create another game
20111024 19:25:38< Jon2> I can do it in VassalEngine easily, though. But I thought I'd contribute to Wesnoth.
20111024 19:25:49< Crendgrim> a game definitely worth a try
20111024 19:25:55< Jon2> but first, i need to know that my idea isn't full of holes.
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20111024 19:26:02< Crendgrim> but nothing that could be done in Wesnoth, i think..
20111024 19:26:09< Crendgrim> it would break just everything
20111024 19:26:39< Jon2> Hmm. I'm willing to fork a Wesnoth branch, and fully support re-integration into trunk. But I do need help getting started.
20111024 19:27:07< Jon2> actually, I thought of copying and reinventing Civ 5 first. Hmm. But that'll mean zero AI to begin with.
20111024 19:28:37< Crendgrim> well
20111024 19:28:51< Crendgrim> it would break a) the engine, b) the campaigns, c) all tactics and d) all usermade stuff
20111024 19:29:29< zookeeper> umm, yeah, that's like if you wanted to use squares instead of hexes.
20111024 19:30:07< Jon2> but... but... it'll bring so much realism and tactics into turn-based....
20111024 19:30:15< Crendgrim> of course it would
20111024 19:30:24< Crendgrim> as I said: As a stand-alone game, I'd be very happy to try it
20111024 19:30:35< Crendgrim> but it won't happen to Wesnoth, I guess.
20111024 19:30:47< Jon2> Can i fork Wesnoth for this?
20111024 19:31:22< VurtualRuler98> how about fork wesnoth into a 1:1 port of at least 1.8 onto android
20111024 19:31:42< zookeeper> of course you can fork wesnoth for that
20111024 19:31:44< Gambit> Jon2: Just go check the GPL and make sure to abide by it
20111024 19:31:44< VurtualRuler98> optionally: copy the menu from the mobile version, optionally 2: doubletap castle to recruit
20111024 19:32:05< Jon2> That's a limiting exercise. Quite some engineering involved. Smaller platform.
20111024 19:32:31< Jon2> Ok. I will. At some point, I hope to pour it back into Wesnoth.
20111024 19:32:39< VurtualRuler98> The power is there(unless wesnoth is even more power-hungry than I thought), the one input is there, and playing over VNC is(probably) possible
20111024 19:33:19< VurtualRuler98> excuse me while I remember that my laptop has a lock against VNC on it
20111024 19:38:01< Jon2> Crendgrim: Any resource to help me learn Wesnoth coding quicker?
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20111024 19:56:58< Crendgrim> Jon2: I guess you mean modifying the engine. In this case, you'll better ask someone else, as I didn't ever look at Wesnoth's source code
20111024 19:59:39< Jon2> I've rewritten the post. If you will read through it, and see that the idea works, you can help to make it visible.
20111024 20:00:18< Jon2> Currently, I have the ability to do it in Vassal or in Wesnoth or even FreeCiv. I'll implement this wherever there are more playtesters.
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20111024 20:30:46< VurtualRuler98> ok confirmed
20111024 20:30:56< VurtualRuler98> wesnoth over VNC > wesnoth for android
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20111024 20:32:02< VurtualRuler98> and that's NOT just because I find 64-color displays nice-looking
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