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20111108 00:28:38< CIA-99> fendrin * r51925 /trunk/src/replay.cpp: Fix the second_unit support of recall actions during a replay.
20111108 00:36:08< anonymissimus> Espreon: how does one get around this "macro ref in translatable string" wmllint error
20111108 00:36:11< anonymissimus> message=_"Variable with name two has been multiplied by " {FACTOR} _" to value $two|."
20111108 00:36:33< anonymissimus> this is basically the sentence as it was in the AMLA_TOUGH macro
20111108 00:37:32< anonymissimus> IIRC you didn't aswer my question how this effect can be achieved, insertin macros in translatable strings (and in this case it is not in the string, notably)
20111108 00:38:18< anonymissimus> should I set an extra variable for this or what ?
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20111108 01:07:12< anonymissimus> Espreon: O'be made a thread for it: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=35417&p=512784#p512784
20111108 01:07:21< anonymissimus> I've""
20111108 01:07:32< anonymissimus> always wondered about that issues
20111108 01:15:02< Alarantalara> Progress Quest is much more fun than Uploading Wesnoth. More bars and they move faster.
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20111108 01:27:57< shadowm_laptop> anonymissimus: so, what's the actual question for the topic?
20111108 01:28:25< anonymissimus> how the case which was covered by AMLA_TOUGH should be handled
20111108 01:28:43< shadowm_laptop> you mean in regards to the translatable strings?
20111108 01:28:52< anonymissimus> I want to do that often
20111108 01:29:27< anonymissimus> not especially translatable ones, strings in general, and keeping wmllitn silent about them
20111108 01:29:39< shadowm_laptop> what AMLA_TOUGH did would be considered a headache for some translators because it concatenated a non-translatable string and a translatable string to another translatable string
20111108 01:30:04< shadowm_laptop> it's not always possible to keep the original English order and not sound awkward
20111108 01:31:49< Espreon> anonymissimus: Uh, yeah... that's just evil.
20111108 01:31:53< shadowm_laptop> as for wmllint, I personally find more productive to use # wmllint: ignore at the end of a line it can't understand
20111108 01:32:15< shadowm_laptop> or lines it insists on rearranging in creative ways
20111108 01:32:24< anonymissimus> shadowm_laptop: that directive actually works in this case yes
20111108 01:33:50 * anonymissimus wonders how shadowm_laptop distinguishes useful wmllint messages from the useless ones once that he runs wmllint on his addons (and I've seen him doing this!)
20111108 01:33:51< shadowm_laptop> uh... just in case we aren't in the same page, _"foo"+{TEXT}+_"bar" does not work in the same way as _"foo{TEXT}bar"
20111108 01:35:22< anonymissimus> ok so the reason for removing AMLA_TOUGH was because it's problematic for translators ?
20111108 01:35:45< anonymissimus> that still doesn't answer how the case shouldbe handled
20111108 01:35:54< Espreon> Well, too bad.®
20111108 01:36:00< shadowmaster> you are mixing up two different issues. I'm not going to refer to the reason for its removal because I don't know about it.
20111108 01:36:04< anonymissimus> and ih it was a variable I don't see much difference
20111108 01:37:21< shadowmaster> Also, if you read http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11445 you'd know what you are requesting is basically something you shouldn't do.
20111108 01:37:48< Espreon> Indeed.
20111108 01:38:16< anonymissimus> I read that topic yes, but I probably dont know enough languages to get it
20111108 01:38:38< anonymissimus> I know only German and English and these are apparently way to similar
20111108 01:39:16< anonymissimus> also it's unavoidable to query variables in such strings
20111108 01:39:22< shadowmaster> It's not too hard to generalize the examples and just assume that it's not a good idea to procedurally generate text in a natural language.
20111108 01:40:29< Espreon> anonymissimus: Please let me know before you start new add-ons in Wesnoth-UMC-Dev.
20111108 01:40:41< Espreon> ... from now on.
20111108 01:41:44< anonymissimus> Espreon: why ?
20111108 01:42:09< Espreon> Because I have to keep the registry up-to-date.
20111108 01:42:14< anonymissimus> and I think you knew it, at least I had asked about it
20111108 01:42:17< anonymissimus> ah ok
20111108 01:42:47< Espreon> Where did you ask about it?
20111108 01:43:51< anonymissimus> I highlighted you in this chan IIRC
20111108 01:44:28< shadowmaster> As for wmllint and my add-ons, I almost never run that thing on them. The few occasions on which I do, it's because their WML has gone stale after failing to keep track of mainline changes. Then I have to go over every single line wmllint edits or complains about and add directives to keep it happy wherever possible.
20111108 01:45:28< shadowmaster> Its failure to handle Lua is particularly hilarious; I had to insert fake WML comments into Lua comments once.
20111108 01:46:06< anonymissimus> thats probably because you put too much lua into wml
20111108 01:46:29< shadowmaster> I generally don't, actually.
20111108 01:46:55< anonymissimus> I handle lua so that the preprocessed lua is minimized and never had to do such thing
20111108 01:47:40< shadowmaster> Only AtS E1S5 uses embedded Lua because I didn't feel a need to move the code to a higher lvel.
20111108 01:47:44< anonymissimus> if there's only a wesnoth.dofile something wmllint sees almost nothing of lua, it only looks for *cfgs
20111108 01:48:13< shadowmaster> E1S6 also has a line of embedded Lua because I seem to have stumbled upon an [objectives] problem at some point.
20111108 01:48:57< anonymissimus> well I asked esr recently for a general  start ignoring - stop ignoring wmllint directive
20111108 01:49:11< anonymissimus> could be useful for you as well
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20111108 02:05:50< shadowmaster> It's not too annoying at the moment, anyway. I just finished a  small "cleanup" with two useful one-line commits, one useless [removeitem]->[remove_item] conversion in a comment block, and some image=wesnoth-icon.png fixes for narrator messages plus a # wmllint: ignore addition to prevent it from mistaking a character's message for ancient WML markup
20111108 02:07:01< shadowmaster> If it weren't for the "[side] without type attribute" warnings (caused by character definition macros), some confusion with commented-pout WML and an unused directory full of crap, it'd run clean: http://pastebin.com/PSuZkf9Z
20111108 02:07:49< shadowmaster> and the fact that I am too lazy to pay attention to the spellchecker output and try to find actual useful warnings amongst the false positives, and add spelling exceptions, etc.
20111108 02:08:10< anonymissimus> side without type is nasty
20111108 02:08:21< anonymissimus> dead water has that as well though
20111108 02:09:18< anonymissimus> let me know if you find out how to suppress it ^^
20111108 02:12:58< anonymissimus> ah hm if I interpret the line in wmllitn correctly it can be suppressed by not using anything else in [side] than the side macro
20111108 02:15:17< shadowmaster> that's not a viable option for me since I always need to set specific settings for each side for each scenario, including the offender (side 1)
20111108 02:19:17< anonymissimus> some scenarios in DW use validate-off/on
20111108 02:19:36< anonymissimus> that could help
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20111108 02:25:37< shadowmaster> nah, that has no effect. It's supposed to help with "unbalanced" WML node open/close tags.
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20111108 02:35:51< Alarantalara> Ivanovic: Mac OS X package uploaded
20111108 02:36:11< shadowmaster> hurray!
20111108 02:46:01< shadowmaster> esr: does wmllint always parse an add-on's root _main.cfg before descending the directory tree? it appears to be ignoring my spelling exceptions
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20111108 03:41:32< shadowmaster> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/trunk/players_changelog
20111108 03:41:56< shadowmaster> I imagine this little change in gna (hopefully unintended) will break a lot of links everywhere.
20111108 03:45:32< shadowmaster> I don't feel particularly inclined to using their support tracker since it seems mostly abandoned.
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20111108 03:51:42< shadowmaster> bleh. https://gna.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=2307
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20111108 03:57:30< CIA-99> espreon * r51926 /trunk/src/playsingle_controller.cpp: Converted remaining hyphen-minuses in the gold report dialog.
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20111108 08:08:59< YogiHH> good morning
20111108 08:09:34< Kolbur> moin
20111108 08:13:09< YogiHH> Ivanovic: ping
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20111108 10:46:33< Ivanovic> moin
20111108 10:46:38< Ivanovic> hi YogiHH
20111108 10:46:43< Ivanovic> how are you?
20111108 10:47:14< YogiHH> Ivanovic: Pretty fine actually :)
20111108 10:47:29< Ivanovic> haven't heard from you for a while
20111108 10:47:38< YogiHH> yeah, i know
20111108 10:47:59< YogiHH> have you got an idea already who is coming to FOSDEM this time?
20111108 10:48:47< Ivanovic> YogiHH: i don't know yet who will be there though i know that chrber most likely won't be there
20111108 10:49:12< Ivanovic> though i submitted a proposal for an open source game dev room together with some other games (that were in gsoc)
20111108 10:49:36< Ivanovic> no idea when the results for this will finally be out
20111108 10:50:47< YogiHH> Ivanovic: My son is interested in drawing and he would love to see one of the artists work, so i thought that might be a good chance to make it happen
20111108 10:51:12< Ivanovic> TSI mentioned that he would like to join in but is not 100% sure if he can actually manage it
20111108 10:52:56< YogiHH> that would be cool
20111108 10:54:05< Ivanovic> yeah
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20111108 13:51:05< Rhonda> huhm, 325 mb …
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20111108 14:44:04< Ivanovic> Rhonda: yeah, it got this small because of the removal of the khalifate!
20111108 14:44:21< Rhonda> small??
20111108 14:44:43< Ivanovic> it would be larger with the khalifate...
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20111108 17:36:24< AI0867> Elvish_Pillager: what git userinfo (name (real and/or otherwise) + email) would you want your wescamp userid to be converted to?
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20111108 18:25:53< CIA-81> anonymissimus * r51927 /trunk/changelog: re-add changelog note about [recall][secondary_unit]
20111108 18:26:03< CIA-81> anonymissimus * r51928 /trunk/data/ (2 files in 2 dirs): some wmllint fixes (the ones I feel confident about)
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20111108 21:11:24< timotei> 20111106 01:29:34< anonymissimus> and we really need some win 7 dev, none of the currently active devs is using win 7 to dev wesnoth
20111108 21:11:24< timotei> 20111106 01:29:51< anonymissimus> even more for Mac though
20111108 21:11:29< timotei> I use both Win7 and Mac :P
20111108 21:11:43< timotei> and I'll be back in bussiness soon.
20111108 21:12:03< Ivanovic> hui!
20111108 21:12:25< Ivanovic> you are the minority among the minorities, combining both seldom operating systems in one house...
20111108 21:12:32< timotei> xD
20111108 21:12:48< timotei> and... I see we have a bot here with us
20111108 21:12:58< timotei> a fare search one 
20111108 21:13:08< timotei> Are we a fare company lately?
20111108 21:14:37< AI0867> I'll have a computer with windows 7 soon, I may even leave it on there
20111108 21:14:59< shadowmaster> FARE-SEARCH_COM: who are you and what's your purpose here?
20111108 21:15:39< timotei> hmm... maybe a new bot of Gambit ? :P
20111108 21:15:45< shadowmaster> no
20111108 21:15:52< AI0867> looks like spam
20111108 21:15:57< timotei> yeah
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20111108 21:16:37-!- FARE-SEARCH_COM was kicked from #wesnoth-dev by Ivanovic [killall users!]
20111108 21:16:51<@Ivanovic> lets see if it has autojoin active
20111108 21:17:13< shadowmaster> it claims to be a mIRC user
20111108 21:17:31< shadowmaster> not that means much given mIRC's scripting capabilities
20111108 21:18:12<@Ivanovic> it joined on the 6th and has not said a single line since then
20111108 21:18:17<@Ivanovic> and seems to also have a static ip
20111108 21:19:42< grzywacz> #staff? ;-)
20111108 21:20:24< shadowmaster> network staff won't K:line a user/bot that's just idling in a channel, no
20111108 21:21:15<@Ivanovic> the only spam so far is/was the username and IIRC there is no rule against usernames being (similar to) an url?
20111108 21:21:21<@Ivanovic> s/?/!
20111108 21:22:38< grzywacz> not that I can see, which of course makes a lot of sense ;)
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20111108 21:38:15< anonymissimus> timotei: I don't count you as an "active wesnoth dev" for this matter, since you seem to be working actively only on your eclipse plugin
20111108 21:38:37< anonymissimus> you don't compile the C++ source in debug mode and such
20111108 21:38:48< timotei> :P
20111108 21:38:52< timotei> I do compile them.
20111108 21:38:55< shadowmaster> I almost never compile the C++ sourc in debug mode...
20111108 21:39:14< timotei> But yeah, debug mode is too nasty most of the time. Too ... hogging down
20111108 21:39:15< anonymissimus> yes, but in release, and then you use that
20111108 21:39:25< timotei> Maybe some debug symbols only
20111108 21:40:02< timotei> and now... some use case diagrams...
20111108 21:40:03< anonymissimus> for your plugin and to test stuff
20111108 21:40:03< timotei> gah
20111108 21:40:36< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: how you are getting the line numbers in backtraces then
20111108 21:41:00< shadowmaster> I did say "almost"
20111108 21:41:06< timotei> :))
20111108 21:41:29< anonymissimus> and anyway, to find out about complex bug relations debugger-step-step is mandatory
20111108 21:41:42< anonymissimus> imho
20111108 21:42:14< anonymissimus> well for lua and wml I also compile in release of course
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20111108 22:49:38<@Ivanovic> 1.9.10 release announcement post: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=35423
20111108 22:49:54<@Ivanovic> fendrin: you might want to directly comment asking for feedback regarding the looks of the end turn button
20111108 22:50:09<@Ivanovic> since the "always highlighted as if selected" looks, uhm, a little strange to the eyes
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20111108 22:55:03< Smar> line numbers are for weak!
20111108 22:55:51< Ivanovic> Rhonda: are the debian binaries ready?
20111108 22:58:23< CIA-81> ivanovic * r51929 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: empty release notes now that 1.9.10 is done
20111108 22:58:40< Ivanovic> Rhonda: ahh, i just assume that they are done since you already mentioned the size
20111108 22:59:01-!- shadowmaster changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: String/feature-freeze active for trunk | 168 bugs, 325 feature requests, 11 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20111108 22:59:11< Ivanovic> thx shadowmaster
20111108 22:59:24< shadowmaster> boucman: hi, got some time?
20111108 22:59:33 * Ivanovic updated the frontpage, too
20111108 23:00:32< boucman> not really... if it's just for anserwing question I could...
20111108 23:01:06< shadowmaster> hm, alright then
20111108 23:07:35< Gambit> Ivanovic: have you begun work on the 1.10 equivilant of: http://www.wesnoth.org/start/1.8/ yet?
20111108 23:07:42< Ivanovic> Gambit: nope
20111108 23:07:46< Ivanovic> help is welcome though!
20111108 23:08:38< Gambit> Okay
20111108 23:08:39< Ivanovic> that is: i create the barebone files (copies from 1.8) a long time ago
20111108 23:08:48< Ivanovic> you just need to fill them with content
20111108 23:09:05< Ivanovic> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/website/start/1.10/
20111108 23:09:21< Ivanovic> please edit template.html, the rest will later on happen "automatically"
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20111108 23:14:25< Ivanovic> Soliton: have you already blocked 1.9.9 on the mp server?
20111108 23:14:43< Ivanovic> Soliton: the idea (as always) is to try to be compatible between all beta releases and the final 1.10 series
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20111108 23:22:46< Ivanovic> and i also sent a mail to the i18n list announcing that the string freeze is active
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20111108 23:23:54< _jay> is the wiki maintainer around? there is a spammy link in one of the pages
20111108 23:24:55< _jay> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Designing_weapons_and_armour    The art tutorials link at the bottom is bad
20111108 23:25:34< shadowmaster> on it
20111108 23:27:07< shadowmaster> fixed
20111108 23:27:23< _jay> great thanks
20111108 23:28:02< Ivanovic> thanks for the report!
20111108 23:28:12< _jay> btw  invasion from the unknown is brutal :)
20111108 23:28:28< _jay> no problem
20111108 23:28:32< AI0867> Ivanovic: if 1.9.10 is out, is the add-on server cleared?
20111108 23:28:48< Ivanovic> AI0867: i decided not to clear it but just leave the 1.9 server to be used with 1.10
20111108 23:29:08< shadowmaster> then you may want to get rid of the one add-on that uses WML markup to highlight itself in red in the list
20111108 23:29:19< shadowmaster> just type # in the filter box and you'll see it
20111108 23:29:50< AI0867> also, the link in your email is bad
20111108 23:30:04< AI0867> it has i18n concatenated to the TLD
20111108 23:30:23< Ivanovic> argh
20111108 23:30:59< _jay> another bad link: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/tags/1.9.10/players_changelog  
20111108 23:31:09< _jay> 403 forbidden
20111108 23:31:10< Ivanovic> _jay: yeah, some problems at gna
20111108 23:31:17< _jay> ah ok
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