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20111109 00:07:28< Soliton> Ivanovic: 1.9.9 blocked.
20111109 00:07:36< Ivanovic> Soliton: thanks!
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20111109 01:22:27< CIA-81> anonymissimus * r51930 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): delay/add variable substitution in unit::add_modification (fix for bug #18893)
20111109 01:23:45< anonymissimus> I'm unsure about the anove fix, comments welcome
20111109 01:24:00< anonymissimus> possibly adds some bugs in effect wml
20111109 01:29:02< anonymissimus> and also adds variable susbtitution to effect wml, as a side effect
20111109 01:36:09< shadowmaster> It won't break my add-ons, so I'm fine with that. I can't speak for the Crazy MP People and their wacky RPGish stuff, though.
20111109 01:40:25< anonymissimus>  I wonder wether it's a good idea to add variable substitution support to [unit_type][advancement] though
20111109 01:40:48< anonymissimus> the [object] call path had it so that one has it as well now
20111109 01:42:00< anonymissimus> wesbot: topic
20111109 01:42:02-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: String/feature-freeze active for trunk | 168 bugs, 325 feature requests, 11 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20111109 01:43:00< fendrin> anonymissimus: hi, how did you do it?
20111109 01:43:18< anonymissimus> fendrin: well look at the diff
20111109 01:43:37< anonymissimus> fendrin: you are welcome if you find somethign suspiscious with it
20111109 01:44:08< anonymissimus> I'm very unsure about this fix in comparison to usual
20111109 01:44:55< anonymissimus> and since there's so many cases under which this function is called and in which it can act...
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20111109 01:50:15< fendrin> anonymissimus: Yes, I know. I had a patch ready that I didn't dare to commit. Because of all the testcases.
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20111109 02:03:59< fendrin> anonymissimus: hmmm
20111109 02:06:07< fendrin> anonymissimus: Your goal was to delay all variable substitution?
20111109 02:06:20< anonymissimus> hm no
20111109 02:06:43< anonymissimus> I wanted to delay it as far as neccessary
20111109 02:07:29< anonymissimus> while keeping everything intact
20111109 02:08:09< anonymissimus> a very simply fix could have been to change the get_parsed_config call in game_events to get_config()
20111109 02:08:35< anonymissimus> but that would have removed existing variable susbtitution support from [object]
20111109 02:08:40< fendrin> yeah
20111109 02:10:25< fendrin> I used get_parsed_config everytime to make it better readable when substitution takes place. But beside this my patch was very much the same.
20111109 02:11:06< fendrin> anonymissimus: How far have you tested?
20111109 02:11:17< anonymissimus> hardly, TBH
20111109 02:11:45< fendrin> But you know that teleport tunnel now works in both, unit and [object]?
20111109 02:12:04< anonymissimus> there's an wesnoth.add_modification call in the test scenario I tested
20111109 02:13:00< anonymissimus> 		local ab_tele = wesnoth.get_variable("ab_tele")
20111109 02:13:02< anonymissimus> 		wml_actions.capture_village({ side = 1 })
20111109 02:13:04< anonymissimus> 		wml_actions.object({ silent = true, {"filter", { id = "Hamel" }}, {"effect", { apply_to="new_ability", {"abilities", ab_tele } }}})
20111109 02:13:16< anonymissimus> that was my base testcase pre-after
20111109 02:13:48< anonymissimus> ab_tele set in teh scenario wml from ABILITY_TELEPORT
20111109 02:14:07< anonymissimus> I almost always test stuff only from lua since it's so much faster
20111109 02:14:53< anonymissimus> especially when in the VS debugger and no crash happens so I can test changes in-depth without the need to reload wml
20111109 02:15:09< fendrin> I see. Knowing lua better is a big benefit in testing. I hope that there is no chance of WML only code failing.
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20111109 02:16:01< anonymissimus> thats very low, I've been testing all teh feature I added mostly onyl from lue
20111109 02:16:42< fendrin> very cool
20111109 02:17:02< fendrin> Is there a document telling me how to do it nicely. Or a forum post?
20111109 02:17:24< anonymissimus> you could look in one of my addons
20111109 02:17:30< anonymissimus> or in teh test scenario
20111109 02:18:36< anonymissimus> line 765ff
20111109 02:18:41< fendrin> Well, there is no reason to panic. The playtesters will find the bugs.
20111109 02:20:29< anonymissimus> and in this main function enter arbitrary wml action code to test
20111109 02:20:35< fendrin> anonymissimus: Can you send me a windows binary including the fix? I would like to give it to a playtester.
20111109 02:20:41< anonymissimus> while leaving the scenario always open of course
20111109 02:21:29< anonymissimus> its probably too large
20111109 02:21:43< fendrin> A debug build?
20111109 02:22:05< anonymissimus> hm ~20mb
20111109 02:22:13< fendrin> I think the none debug build is only about 5mb.
20111109 02:22:26< fendrin> anonymissimus: I have a server you can upload to.
20111109 02:28:10< anonymissimus> fendrin: you should be able to build win binaries with MinGw an run them with wine
20111109 02:28:20< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: is doing that
20111109 02:33:06< fendrin> cool, but I guess the setup is hard?
20111109 02:45:53< fendrin> I will have a look at it.
20111109 02:51:56< AI0867> who builds the official windows binaries? and with which toolchain?
20111109 02:52:40< fendrin> AI0867: I think it is loonycyborg as well.
20111109 02:53:11< shadowmaster> that's correct
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20111109 03:08:50< anonymissimus> fendrin: http://www.mediafire.com/?l25v7huxualrlz3
20111109 03:09:26< anonymissimus> uploaded a win MinGw binary, r51930
20111109 03:09:40< anonymissimus> no warranty for any damage to one's PC etc
20111109 03:09:56< anonymissimus> or that it works at all
20111109 03:10:02< anonymissimus> bye
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20111109 03:28:22< Exasperation> anonymissimus: looks to me like helper.rand is slightly broken, do you get an error when you try to use it?
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20111109 04:00:59< Alarantalara> Regarding http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=35423#p512927, is there any problem if I rename the file in sourceforge (since I don't have access to the wesnoth download page)
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20111109 04:01:37< shadowmaster> Alarantalara: you can edit the download page in the wiki, I think, and I can edit the frontpage if it's necessary
20111109 04:02:13< Alarantalara> Yeah, I put a space in the filename when I uploaded it, so it doesn't quite match the format of last time
20111109 04:02:38< Alarantalara> But I can edit the wiki just as easily
20111109 04:05:51< Alarantalara> shadowmaster: The link in the wiki is fixed. If I could trouble you to copy it to the main page, that would be wonderful.
20111109 04:06:29< shadowmaster> so http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/wesnoth/wesnoth-1.9.10/Wesnoth%201.9.10.dmg/download it is?
20111109 04:06:55< shadowmaster> there's still a blank there (the %20 is a escaped ASCII whitespace)
20111109 04:07:03< Alarantalara> That would be it, yes
20111109 04:07:56< shadowmaster> although I wonder why it doesn't follow the same convention as the Windows and source downloads... anyway, done
20111109 04:08:28< Alarantalara> That would be me forgetting what the convention was when I created it this time :(
20111109 04:08:50< shadowmaster> ahh
20111109 04:11:00< Alarantalara> Thanks for changing it
20111109 04:12:40< shadowmaster> np
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20111109 09:26:34< Ivanovic> moin
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20111109 10:49:18< Rhonda> wtf
20111109 10:49:25< Rhonda> Subject: wesnoth-1.9_1.9.10-1_i386.changes REJECTED
20111109 10:49:42< Rhonda> bleeaaahhhh
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20111109 15:29:28< Rhonda> What is Pandora?
20111109 15:29:34< Rhonda> msgid "Pandora specific controls and hotkeys"
20111109 15:29:58< Rhonda> And what is D-Pad?
20111109 15:30:00< AI0867> linux handheld
20111109 15:30:06< Rhonda> GamingButtons?
20111109 15:30:12< AI0867> all that
20111109 15:30:20< AI0867> google openpandora
20111109 15:32:56< Rhonda> Ivanovic, you used it recently, do you know german terms for that, or shall I leave them "untranslated"?
20111109 15:33:15< AI0867> he even maintains it
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20111109 17:19:13< vultraz> um..why does the wesnoth homepage still say download 1.9.9 instead of 1.9.10? 
20111109 17:19:31< AI0867> poke shadowmaster 
20111109 17:19:47< AI0867> or better, ctrl+r
20111109 17:19:51< AI0867> your cache is stale
20111109 17:20:11< fendrin> hi
20111109 17:21:32< vultraz> ahhh works now
20111109 17:21:40< vultraz> @ AI0867 thanks 
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20111109 18:04:49-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: String/feature-freeze active for trunk | 171 bugs, 326 feature requests, 13 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20111109 18:17:23< anonymissimus> exasperation: I dunno, works for me, how do you call it ? make a bug report
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20111109 18:41:52< vultraz> I'm not sure if this is a bug, but wesnoth removes teh finished camp thingy from around AOI
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20111109 18:46:41< anonymissimus> fendrin: btw one should avoid calling get_parsed_config where possible
20111109 18:47:30< anonymissimus> the call is costly; silene created the __shallow_parsed field exactly for this, so that only toplevel-attributes are variable-susbtituted
20111109 18:52:56< fendrin> anonymissimus: Thanks for the info. Btw, if you consider Eclipse cdt there are some tips I can give you.
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20111109 19:16:54< fendrin> hi boucman
20111109 19:16:59< boucman> hey
20111109 19:17:45< Espreon> wesbot: bug #18883
20111109 19:17:45< wesbot> Bug #18883  Assigned to: Lukasz Dobrogowski <zaroth>  Status: Postponed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20111109 19:17:48< wesbot> Summary: [snapshot], [multiplayer], [replay_start] not supported at scenario toplevel
20111109 19:17:51< wesbot> Original submission: Invalid WML found: [snapshot], [multiplayer], [replay_sta
20111109 19:17:54< wesbot> rt] not supported at scenario toplevelGuests and observers get this message 
20111109 19:17:58< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?18883
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20111109 19:52:27< shadowmaster> freemem
20111109 19:52:30< shadowmaster> oops
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20111109 22:02:37< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: have you updated your win release compiler to tdm-gcc-4.6.1 yet ?
20111109 22:02:51< loonycyborg> No.
20111109 22:03:15< anonymissimus> okay then you'll probably hit the problem epsreon showed us once you do
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20111109 22:57:56< anonymissimus> SigurdFireDragon: have you tried a full rebuilt after compiler switching ?
20111109 22:58:25< SigurdFireDragon> don't remember
20111109 22:58:26< anonymissimus> often some stuff lingers around and confuses compilers&linkers
20111109 23:02:28< SigurdFireDragon> trying it now with a debug bulid using 4.6.1...
20111109 23:03:53< anonymissimus> loonycyborg: your minimized program builts fine
20111109 23:04:18< anonymissimus> (after some syntax correction hehe)
20111109 23:06:41< loonycyborg> Probably there's a redundant lib linked against. Or boost needs to be rebuilt with the new version too.
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20111109 23:18:13< AI0867> noy: when are you planning to release the khalifa add-on?
20111109 23:18:39< noy> I'm not too sure
20111109 23:18:49< noy> I think its certain to reappear in 1.11.1
20111109 23:18:53< AI0867> that lon?
20111109 23:18:58< AI0867> s/lon/long
20111109 23:19:09< noy> well it just can't go into 1.10
20111109 23:19:13< AI0867> why not now?
20111109 23:19:20< noy> because of the liminal change
20111109 23:19:31< AI0867> no, I mean the add-on, not merging back
20111109 23:19:36< noy> the faction is completely unbalanced
20111109 23:19:47< noy> oh, you mean the new faction?
20111109 23:20:02< noy> I think once 1.9.10 comes out a new version will be released
20111109 23:20:08< AI0867> it's out
20111109 23:20:15< AI0867> released yesterday
20111109 23:20:21< noy> well sometime in the next few weeks
20111109 23:20:24< AI0867> and the WTT people are wondering what to do
20111109 23:20:45< noy> I'd suggest to them that they play the old version
20111109 23:20:52< noy> use the download already existing
20111109 23:21:11< noy> seriously, not a single game has been played since we changed them over to liminal
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20111109 23:21:22< AI0867> true
20111109 23:21:38< AI0867> so get the add-on out and see some games ;)
20111109 23:23:20< SigurdFireDragon> anonymissimus: got 4 errors on the build, same as in the win codeblock compile forum thread
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