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20111120 01:00:53< anonymissimus> pah...just to let you know...I attempted fixing bug #16299 and give up now...that doesnt really happen often
20111120 01:01:15< anonymissimus> most of what I gathered is in the bug thread
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20111120 01:17:57< AI0867> wesbot: bug #16299
20111120 01:17:58< wesbot> Bug #16299  Assigned to: None  Status: Confirmed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20111120 01:18:01< wesbot> Summary: changing control of a side right before it starts its turn misses side init
20111120 01:18:04< wesbot> Original submission: Hello.I have a weak connection and time to time I get
20111120 01:18:07< wesbot>  disconnected. Always I have to change the nick because the old one it is still 
20111120 01:18:07< AI0867> ah, that one
20111120 01:18:10< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?16299
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20111120 01:30:35< CIA-81> espreon * r52020 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-editor/ang@latin.po wesnoth-lib/ang@latin.po): Updated the Old English translation.
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20111120 01:48:12< AI0867> current networking system seems to support multiple threads. Do we ever use more than one?
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20111120 01:57:19< CIA-81> espreon * r52021 /trunk/po/wesnoth-dm/en_GB.po: Updated the British English translation.
20111120 01:57:45< AI0867> Soliton: i see two ways to fix the race condition:
20111120 01:58:00< AI0867> -add a 'flush' function to network_worker.cpp
20111120 01:58:28< AI0867> -always flush queued buffers when closing a socket, rather than just discarding them
20111120 01:58:51< AI0867> is there a reason the second isn't already the case?
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20111120 02:51:23< fabi> wesbot: seen crab_?
20111120 02:51:24< wesbot> fabi: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 22d 7h ago.  4d 3h ago they left with the message: Client Quit
20111120 02:55:16< AI0867> loonycyborg: which windows build system do you use? (and which others are known to work?)
20111120 03:06:51< fabi> Ivanovic: I think I can workaround bug #18984 for the release tomorrow. Still need to talk to crab for a final fix of the problem.
20111120 03:11:56< anonymissimus> AI0867: MSVC and Codeblocks/MinGw are known to work
20111120 03:12:21< anonymissimus> the description in projectfiles/codeblocks/readme should work out of the box
20111120 03:12:23< AI0867> even with translations? I heard some rumors that gettext didn't work with anything but mingw
20111120 03:12:48< anonymissimus> ah yes, teh translations arent built with these mehods
20111120 03:13:02< anonymissimus> I suppose loony is using scons on win
20111120 03:13:18< Espreon> anonymissimus: No, I was saying how you can't switch translations.
20111120 03:13:38< AI0867> I tried MSVC10 yesterday, but cmake refused to generate a solution for me
20111120 03:13:39< Espreon> Also, my CodeBlocks build couldn't handle "AM"/"PM" stuff right.
20111120 03:13:46< Espreon> It just displays "C".
20111120 03:13:57< anonymissimus> Espreon: you don't understand
20111120 03:14:01< anonymissimus> I think
20111120 03:14:10< anonymissimus> and cmake is outdated supposedly
20111120 03:14:19< anonymissimus> MSVC+cmake that is
20111120 03:14:32< Espreon> I know that the translations aren't built, but you said that when you moved the mo files to your MSVC build, you couldn't switch out of the German translation.
20111120 03:14:47< anonymissimus> i never said that
20111120 03:14:53< Espreon> Yeah, you did.
20111120 03:14:56< anonymissimus> and I move no mo files
20111120 03:15:03< Espreon> That's a lie.
20111120 03:15:13< Espreon> We had a long talk about it.
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20111120 03:15:44< anonymissimus> hm ok I strain to recall some problem like this
20111120 03:16:06< anonymissimus> I never used the MSVC binary for anything else than c++ coding since long
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20111120 03:18:58< anonymissimus> anyway what I mean is that these mo files aren't created on win if you don't use scons
20111120 03:19:22< Espreon> Yes, we know that.
20111120 03:19:43< anonymissimus> since I don't care about translations much I never bothered with scons on win so far
20111120 03:20:32< anonymissimus> cmake+MSVC wouldnt get you the mo files as well btw
20111120 03:20:50< Espreon> We know.
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20111120 03:26:26< Espreon> AI0867: To ensure that things work they way they should, loonycyborg's method for making release builds should be used.
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20111120 03:38:24< Espreon> Yeah, my CodeBlocks + MinGW build seems to handle everything fine.
20111120 03:38:38< Espreon> I dunno why "AM" and "PM" showed up correctly this time, though.
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20111120 04:31:55< shadowmaster> wesbot: log 50744
20111120 04:31:58< wesbot> grickit * r50744 : Added a variation of the windmill that functions as a village.
20111120 04:32:01< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=50744
20111120 04:32:07< shadowmaster> Gambit: shame on you for never adding this to the changelog
20111120 04:33:01< shadowmaster> it'd also be nice if you took the time to make a separate editor icon for the windmill village so people don't inadvertently mix both up in the same map
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20111120 04:56:00< CIA-81> fendrin * r52022 /trunk/src/replay.cpp: 
20111120 04:56:00< CIA-81> Don't try to add the leader specific recruit list from a null pointer.
20111120 04:56:00< CIA-81> Workaround for bug #18984
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20111120 09:08:37< CIA-81> gabba * r52024 /trunk/src/whiteboard/mapbuilder.cpp: 
20111120 09:08:37< CIA-81> Revert revision #52012 "add workaround for bug #18992"
20111120 09:08:37< CIA-81> Fixes bug#17277 again.
20111120 09:08:40< CIA-81> gabba * r52023 /trunk/src/whiteboard/manager.cpp: 
20111120 09:08:40< CIA-81> Don't build planned unit map if whiteboard is disabled. (Really) Fixes bug#18992.
20111120 09:08:40< CIA-81> Relatively minor side effects if you plan an action then toggle out of planning mode:
20111120 09:08:40< CIA-81> - for moves the location that displays the unit in the sidebar will switch from future to current position
20111120 09:08:41< CIA-81> - for recruit/recall, your real current money will be displayed (could actually be considered a feature, you can switch between real/projected money with tab)
20111120 09:08:42< CIA-81> gabba * r52025 /trunk/src/mouse_events.cpp: 
20111120 09:08:42< CIA-81> Ensure future unit map isn't active while "select" event is being fired.
20111120 09:08:42< CIA-81> The map was being modified before the whiteboard got the occasion to restore the game state.
20111120 09:08:43< CIA-81> Fixes bug #18534
20111120 09:08:50< CIA-81> gabba * r52026 /trunk/src/ (game_events.cpp whiteboard/manager.cpp): Added asserts to ensure game events and other gamestate-changing stuff never happen while future unit map is active.
20111120 09:08:56< CIA-81> gabba * r52027 /trunk/src/whiteboard/mapbuilder.cpp: Revert revision #51485 "Add a work-round for bug #18534." since bug #18534 is now fixed.
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20111120 10:27:48< Ivanovic> moin
20111120 10:36:23< boucman> moin
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20111120 10:39:08< Polarina> Greetings!
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20111120 11:23:59< Soliton> AI0867: we use 32 threads for stable versions. flush sounds good, maybe only if it's a forced disconnect. i don't think there is a specific reason why it wasn't done yet.
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20111120 11:31:50< loonycyborg> AI0867: I use scons to build windows release.
20111120 11:33:08< loonycyborg> I've made a special target to handle nsis etc so on release I only run "scons windows-installer"
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20111120 13:01:14< fendrin> Ivanovic: moin
20111120 13:01:21< Ivanovic> hi fendrin
20111120 13:01:32< Ivanovic> so what is the status of the bug? is at least a workaround in place?
20111120 13:01:41< fendrin> Ivanovic: yes
20111120 13:01:42< Ivanovic> and. does this break the backwards compatibility?
20111120 13:01:47< fendrin> hmmm
20111120 13:01:56< fendrin> no, I don't think so.
20111120 13:02:08< Ivanovic> great!
20111120 13:02:25< fendrin> But I don't know the exact test case anonymous used.
20111120 13:02:40< fendrin> So I can't say for sure that the workaround holds.
20111120 13:02:50< Ivanovic> okay
20111120 13:04:46< fendrin> The remaining problem is: leader specific recruit lists do not work for the ai, meaning the game will crash then (in multiplayer).
20111120 13:05:04< fendrin> Or go out of sync 
20111120 13:05:25< fendrin> I think that is not that important since no one uses them so far.
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20111120 13:05:51< Kolbur> moin
20111120 13:06:40< Ivanovic> okay
20111120 13:08:45< Ivanovic> boucman, fendrin, mordante, ...: if you have an idea for a session you could hold in the fosdem game dev room, please make sure to send a message with the info to the mailing list
20111120 13:10:50< boucman> ok
20111120 13:10:54< fendrin> Ivanovic: I have learned that ordering posters online will be cheaper than using my old connection since they no longer own a device for producing small margins. Still I think having them would be a nice idea.
20111120 13:11:27< Ivanovic> fendrin: okay, good to know
20111120 13:27:14< vultraz> I've noticed [terrain]'s effect doesn't kick in until the end of the even in which it is used. Is that a bug or deliberate?
20111120 13:37:36< zookeeper> neither really, AFAIK
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20111120 13:43:56< shadowmaster> vultraz: redraw was meant to force gamemap refreshes at one point IIRC
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20111120 14:58:34< mordante> servus
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20111120 15:02:53< mordante> fendrin, anonymissimus, shadowm_laptop indeed my tests normally don't involve memory leaks, valgrind runs too slow
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20111120 15:13:24< mordante> AI0867, IIRC the server switched to one thread recently to work around some config class changes, not sure whether reverted
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20111120 16:00:41< anonymissimus> gabba: you are sure about that assert in game_events ?
20111120 16:01:00< anonymissimus> game events can be raised way before they fire
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20111120 16:04:15< anonymissimus> Gabba: I don't think we need more than one thread per bug thats why I didnt mark in progress instead
20111120 16:05:05< CIA-81> elias * r52028 /trunk/data/tools/ (unit_tree/animations.py unit_tree/helpers.py wmlunits): [wmlunits] Fixed forest tile picture. Fixed inclusion of addon campaigns with only shared units.
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20111120 16:13:06< anonymissimus> fendrin: there's nothing special about my testcase and I can currently not reproduce it
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20111120 16:19:40< anonymissimus> so well, a release would be ok i think
20111120 16:23:13< anonymissimus> vultraz: that is not a bug; the terrain does change, it is just not visible, maybe call [recraw]
20111120 16:25:42< AI0867> loonycyborg: is there an archive or list of instructions somewhere to get all the necessary libraries and headers? So far I've only found those for MSVC and code::blocks
20111120 16:26:45 * anonymissimus is also (somewhat) interested in that
20111120 16:27:25< anonymissimus> or a general how-to-compile-on-win-so-the translations-are also-done
20111120 16:27:38< AI0867> mordante: the only instance I find of NUM_SHARDS is in network_worker.cpp and equals 1
20111120 16:34:15< mordante> AI0867, the server code has min_threads = 1 (https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?18654)
20111120 16:35:11< Kolbur> moin anonymissimus
20111120 16:40:41< AI0867> mordante: could that have something to do with thonsew's other work?
20111120 16:43:12< mordante> not sure afaik anonymissimus was looking at it
20111120 16:44:36< loonycyborg> AI0867: There's SDK on http://files.wesnoth.org/hidden/win/
20111120 16:45:45< loonycyborg> But it's hard to provide pre-build binaries for boost due to many incompatible variants of mingw in existance.
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20111120 16:53:25< Gambit> mordante: a lot of your questions on the recent mailing list posting are responded to in "Re: [Wesnoth-dev] Wesnoth-dev Digest, Vol 75, Issue 6". I forgot to change my subject line when I responded.
20111120 16:54:24< anonymissimus> mordante: I hardly looked at it
20111120 16:54:46< anonymissimus> mordante: an it doesnt seem thonsew is/was responsible for it
20111120 16:59:33-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.9.11 planned on Monday 21st, 16:00 GMT+1 | String/feature-freeze active for trunk | 174 bugs, 326 feature requests, 13 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20111120 17:00:37< Ivanovic> AI0867, anonymissimus, boucman, esr, fendrin, Gambit, grzywacz, loonycyborg, mordante, shadowmaster, Soliton, zookeeper: any problems if i release in <23h?
20111120 17:00:55< zookeeper> not from me...
20111120 17:01:25< loonycyborg> nope.
20111120 17:02:36< shadowmaster> I haven't tested trunk lately, so no idea
20111120 17:02:50< shadowmaster> especially not after last night's changes
20111120 17:03:03< AI0867> Ivanovic: I'm going to try to get some fixes in before that
20111120 17:03:09< Gambit> No
20111120 17:03:25< Ivanovic> AI0867: sure
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20111120 17:07:10< mordante> Gambit, which ones does it answer?
20111120 17:07:21< mordante> anonymissimus, ok
20111120 17:07:30< mordante> Ivanovic, not for me
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20111120 17:46:03< anonymissimus> Soliton: you seemed to take care for bug #16299 ; is there anything you could tell me about it ?
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20111120 18:09:11< Soliton> anonymissimus: well, as you probably noticed yourself do_init_side() is not called like it is supposed to. maybe the easiest way to debug further is to findout when that regression appeared.
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20111120 18:31:52< Soliton> maybe the client is longer in replay mode then it used to be. i.e. in init_side() it is still replaying and only then gets control.
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20111120 18:38:22< Kolbur> Soliton: have you tried the reproduction steps i described for this bug?
20111120 18:39:22< fendrin> Ivanovic: no problems, go ahead :-)
20111120 18:40:00< Soliton> Kolbur: no.
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20111120 18:53:55< Soliton> AI0867: shards != threads. official servers have 7 shards.
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20111120 18:58:57< Soliton> Kolbur: it'd be useful to get debug output (--log-debug=all) from client A of your test.
20111120 18:59:37< Soliton> and a savegame from the end state.
20111120 19:05:45< Kolbur> ok, how do i get the debug output?
20111120 19:08:09< Soliton> you add --log-debug=all to the parameters for wesnoth.
20111120 19:08:51< Soliton> on windows the output will end up in stderr.txt.
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20111120 19:51:59< CIA-81> mordante * r52029 /trunk/src/game.cpp: 
20111120 19:51:59< CIA-81> Remove a duplicated std::ios_base::binary.
20111120 19:51:59< CIA-81> Also some minor formatting cleanup. Issue discovered by cppcheck.
20111120 19:52:00< CIA-81> mordante * r52031 /trunk/src/marked-up_text.cpp: 
20111120 19:52:00< CIA-81> Remove duplicate tests.
20111120 19:52:00< CIA-81> Issue discovered by cppcheck.
20111120 19:52:03< CIA-81> mordante * r52030 /trunk/src/marked-up_text.cpp: 
20111120 19:52:03< CIA-81> Remove duplicate tests.
20111120 19:52:03< CIA-81> Issue discovered by cppcheck.
20111120 19:52:17< Kolbur> Soliton: the log is quite big, should i post the entire thing?
20111120 19:54:16< Kolbur> or cut it down somehow?
20111120 20:07:11< Soliton> Kolbur: ideally post the whole thing. might have to zip it.
20111120 20:15:35< Kolbur> ok, i uploaded the savegame and the stderr.txt
20111120 20:16:52< anonymissimus> "maybe the client is longer in replay mode then it used to be. i.e. in init_side() it is still replaying and only then gets control": the client which gets control then ?
20111120 20:17:05< anonymissimus> I dont think thats the case however
20111120 20:17:50< anonymissimus> I didnt involve the VCS time machine as this bug is already present so long
20111120 20:18:56< anonymissimus> and Kolbur it is enough to simply press escape in the second side, end turn in the first, and quit in the second
20111120 20:19:13< anonymissimus> no fancy unit moving needed
20111120 20:21:13< Kolbur> yes true, it's just for demonstrating that the mp don't get refreshed
20111120 20:21:26< anonymissimus> I mean, do you have an idea how many times I reproduce such a thing, testcases need to be as minimal as by all mean possible
20111120 20:21:34< Kolbur> should i post a log without fancy unit moving?
20111120 20:22:22< anonymissimus> btw thats something you could finc out Kolbur :
20111120 20:22:38< anonymissimus> in what revision did it appear; thats generally very helful
20111120 20:22:59< anonymissimus> for instance "not yet in 1.7.8 but from 1.7.9 on"
20111120 20:23:37< anonymissimus> that way we have a very limited range of changes which can be reponsible for a problem
20111120 20:23:52< Kolbur> hm, isee
20111120 20:23:58< anonymissimus> maybe people have old game versions still
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20111120 20:32:28< Kolbur> and yes, i actually not completely clueless about stuff like that ;)
20111120 20:32:39< Kolbur> *i'm
20111120 20:39:40< Kolbur> so where can i get the old 1.7 windows binaries?
20111120 20:43:47< anonymissimus> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/wesnoth/
20111120 20:44:22< anonymissimus> my connection is too slow for downloading extra for such a thing
20111120 20:45:19< anonymissimus> the VCS time machine requires at least 2 rebuilts for back and forth so aint better either or worse
20111120 20:46:08< anonymissimus> info of type "not yet in 1.7.8 but from 1.7.9 on" is helpful for all sorts of bug reports, not only for that one
20111120 20:49:52< anonymissimus> Kolbur: there are no log messages in your stderrs
20111120 20:50:30< anonymissimus> Kolbur: do you know how to make a link to an executable ?
20111120 20:51:34< anonymissimus> in the target field of the propertied of such a link you could have somethign like this: E:\Programme\Wesnoth_1.8_svn\wesnoth.exe --log-debug=all
20111120 20:51:52< Kolbur> are you sure? there's a huge number of whitespace before the actual log messages
20111120 20:51:56< anonymissimus> for passing a command line parameter
20111120 20:51:58< Kolbur> for some reason
20111120 20:52:03< Kolbur> yes, i did that
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20111120 20:55:13< anonymissimus> you can't have; for a simple launch with --log-debug=all just to the titlescreen I'm already ad line ~8000 in my stderr
20111120 20:55:31< anonymissimus> or you did somethign else wrong
20111120 20:56:02< anonymissimus> perhaps some of the confusion stuff windows does since vista
20111120 20:56:24< Kolbur> the file i uploaded has almost 100000 lines
20111120 20:59:44< anonymissimus> ah ok
20111120 21:00:05< anonymissimus> but then it's a good question why there is so many whitespace, never seen that
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20111120 21:09:26< CIA-81> elvish_hunter * r52032 /trunk/ (changelog data/lua/wml-tags.lua): [harm_unit]: reworked damage calculation code to fix a bug, where the private unit can be influenced by units with leadership and cast more damage than expected
20111120 21:13:43< anonymissimus> Kolbur: if you find out the revision range I'll look through them for candidates
20111120 21:14:13< anonymissimus> (a version range is a revision range)
20111120 21:14:53< anonymissimus> though maybe that area changed a lot since then; hopefully not
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20111120 21:21:28< Kolbur> hm, this is a problem because my bandwidth is limited
20111120 21:55:30< grzywacz> git would be your friend...
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20111120 22:32:07< anonymissimus> grzywacz: a rebuilt of wesnoth lasts ~30min for me
20111120 22:32:19< anonymissimus> maybe bit more
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20111120 22:33:48< boucman> zookeeper: around ?
20111120 22:34:14< boucman> anonymissimus: can I assign patch 3040 to you ?
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20111120 22:37:02< zookeeper> boucman, yeah
20111120 22:37:54< boucman> zookeeper: could you handle patch 3039 ?
20111120 22:38:31< anonymissimus> wesbot: patch 3040
20111120 22:38:32< wesbot> Patch #3040  Assigned to: None  Status: None  Priority: 5 - Normal
20111120 22:38:32< wesbot> Summary: Updates most of helper.lua to use wesnoth.wml_actions instead of wesnoth.fire
20111120 22:38:35< wesbot> Original submission: In helper.lua this changes wesnoth.fire to wesnoth.wml_ac
20111120 22:38:38< wesbot> tions, except for line 191, where it is inappropriate.
20111120 22:38:40< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/patch/?3040
20111120 22:38:43< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/patch/download.php?file_id=14489
20111120 22:38:43< zookeeper> well, i guess if it's needed
20111120 22:39:16< anonymissimus> boucman: ok, but it is anyway a "resubmit once that trunk is open again"
20111120 22:39:51< boucman> ok, i'll assignt to you and mark as postponed with a comment...
20111120 22:40:19< zookeeper> boucman, i won't do it until tomorrow morning though
20111120 22:40:53< anonymissimus> oh well just checking out 1.7.3
20111120 22:41:01< boucman> ok, it's probably a postponed one too
20111120 22:41:25< anonymissimus> lets see whats up
20111120 22:44:38< anonymissimus> and I forgot that I need to be able to built it
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20111120 22:45:20< anonymissimus> at that time I wasnt yet maintaining the win built systems meaning that it should be extremely har
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20111120 23:20:04< Soliton> i guess the init bug got introduced with [init_side] i.e. r35883.
20111120 23:20:43< Soliton> atm it simply can't work right if one side just drops without doing the side init.
20111120 23:21:46< Soliton> so we need to remember whether the side was initialized (whiteboard already seems to do it) and if we get control do the init if necessary.
20111120 23:23:29< Soliton> so if you want to verify with an old version you can check 1.6. any 1.7 version should already be broken.
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20111120 23:27:29< fendrin> anonymissimus: Hi, do you have an idea about the lua syntax around ai/lua/core.cpp line 260 on? I think there is the failure with bug 18984.
20111120 23:32:54< Soliton> anonymissimus: so if you want to fix that bug i think it's enough to call play_controller::init_side() from turn_info::process_network_data() on controller change if the side was not initialized yet.
20111120 23:34:59< Soliton> Kolbur: ^ or maybe you want to try your hand at C++? ;-)
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