--- Log opened Tue Nov 29 00:00:27 2011
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20111129 01:04:56< anonymissimus> Espreon: assigned bug #19058 to you then
20111129 01:05:40< anonymissimus> wesbot: topic
20111129 01:05:42-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.9.11, announcing "soon" | String/feature-freeze active for trunk | 168 bugs, 326 feature requests, 13 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20111129 02:54:00< Bob_The_Mighty> can someone explain to me why an ai leader will not recruit much even when they have plenty of gold? 
20111129 02:55:15< Bob_The_Mighty> probably a wml problem (my ai leader starts as a friendly canrecruit=no, but later switches to an enemy canrecruit=yes)
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20111129 03:40:07< AI0867> fendrin: http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35537
20111129 03:41:09< shadowmaster> ISTR closing a bug that was marked as Fixed after 1.9.11 was released, related to that
20111129 03:41:49< shadowmaster> (closing after 1.9.11, it was fixed after 1.9.10)
20111129 03:42:39< shadowmaster> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?18929
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20111129 07:22:57< CIA-81> gabba * r52135 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (manager.cpp side_actions.cpp): Fix some ugly logging
20111129 07:23:14< CIA-81> gabba * r52136 /trunk/src/whiteboard/side_actions.cpp: Fix formatting
20111129 07:23:25< CIA-81> gabba * r52137 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (8 files): 
20111129 07:23:25< CIA-81> Three visual tweaks for the whiteboard:
20111129 07:23:25< CIA-81> * Ghost the unit at starting position of planned moves
20111129 07:23:25< CIA-81> * On mouseover, display orb and xp bar on planned moves with accurate status
20111129 07:23:25< CIA-81> * Mouseover on last planned move of a unit displays accurate movement left
20111129 07:23:38< CIA-81> gabba * r52138 /trunk/src/whiteboard/ (mapbuilder.cpp recall.cpp recruit.cpp): 
20111129 07:23:38< CIA-81> Fix gold problems with the recent rev#52132
20111129 07:23:38< CIA-81> i.e. gold going in the negative in multiplayer, and recruit cost being used instead of recall cost.
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20111129 08:02:21< CIA-81> gabba * r52139 /trunk/src/whiteboard/mapbuilder.cpp: 
20111129 08:02:22< CIA-81> Multi-turn moves work again.
20111129 08:02:22< CIA-81> Fixed and re-enabled the code disabled in svn revision #52041
20111129 08:02:22< CIA-81> gabba * r52140 /trunk/src/whiteboard/attack.cpp: Attacks don't always have fake units.
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20111129 11:15:29< Ivanovic> moin
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20111129 14:05:30< CIA-81> ivanovic * r52141 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-aoi/cs.po wesnoth-did/cs.po wesnoth-httt/cs.po): updated Czech translation
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20111129 14:35:42< Rhonda> http://bugs.debian.org/650379 - crash in 1.9.11 and DW-Wasteland
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20111129 14:42:06< Soliton> gabba ^
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20111129 14:42:39< Soliton> might already be fixed in trunk.
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20111129 17:13:09< YogiHH> moin
20111129 17:14:47< YogiHH> any windows developer online?
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20111129 17:20:41< anonymissimus> YogiHH: yes
20111129 17:22:14< YogiHH> anonymissimus: Are the project files for vc++ up to date? And are they generated or do we have to manage them manually?
20111129 17:24:31< anonymissimus> they are perfectly up to date
20111129 17:24:39< anonymissimus> and we need to manage them
20111129 17:25:09< YogiHH> ok
20111129 17:26:15< anonymissimus> I hardly ever use the generation mainly due to that the .hpp aren't included for intellisense and the fact that the generation rather constantly breaks due to cmake files modifications made on Linux and not tested on win
20111129 17:27:05< YogiHH> i see
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20111129 17:28:00< anonymissimus> YogiHH: you added some "genric event" -system or whatever that thing is, I noticed it has several unused functions in the playcontroller classes
20111129 17:28:35< anonymissimus> that was back in 2007 or somewhen and was never used, apart from in the ai area it seems
20111129 17:29:06< anonymissimus> (I attempted removing the unused functions once)
20111129 17:29:41< YogiHH> yes, it implements an observer pattern and its main focus is to remove some dependencies that are not desirable (or were not at that time)
20111129 17:30:09< YogiHH> back then it was used in 2 or 3 places, i think
20111129 17:31:00< YogiHH> if i remember correctly i used it to decouple the editor from the network code, but i am not sure
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20111129 17:48:24< AI0867> anonymissimus: I've gotten both MSVC10 and CodeBlocks to work (native projects), but translations work on neither
20111129 17:57:02< Espreon> AI0867: Even after moving the compiled mo files in the right place?
20111129 17:57:08< Espreon> *to the right
20111129 18:02:24< anonymissimus> AI0867: that is normal afaik
20111129 18:03:26< anonymissimus> the IDEs don't know about the translations; the gettext stuff/tools are invoked by the make sripts only (cmake and scons)
20111129 18:03:47< anonymissimus> so translations aren't updated when compiling on win
20111129 18:04:21< anonymissimus> but they obviously are when compiling with scons on win (the release built method)
20111129 18:04:57< anonymissimus> never did that however since it's presumably harder so you need to ask loonycyborg 
20111129 18:06:43< anonymissimus> also Espreon told me that I apparently told him that translation switching doesnt work with MSVC release binaries (but do with the codeblocks ones) ;)
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20111129 18:17:35< AI0867> k, I'll guess I'll copy the mo files from a linux build then, and see what happens
20111129 18:19:50< AI0867> my (very limited) experience with building using VC10 is that it doesn't use multiple cores effectively, unlike code::blocks
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20111129 18:22:00< AI0867> code::blocks set to 7 threads constantly had 7 (okay, 3.5) cores pegged at 100%. VC10 detected 8 CPUs to use, but only got 3 of them over 50% (and not even much over 50%)
20111129 18:23:12< vultraz> what libs do I need to compile wesnoth?
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20111129 18:29:39< AI0867> vultraz: on what kind of system are you?
20111129 18:30:17< AI0867> on windows, there's zips that contain everything you need. On debian-derivatives, apt can install all the build dependencies for you
20111129 18:30:30< vultraz> Mac OS X 10.5.8
20111129 18:31:00< AI0867> there should be a maccompilestuff archive somewhere, but that's pretty much all I know about it
20111129 18:37:37< vultraz> humm
20111129 18:37:43< vultraz> any idea where?
20111129 18:37:52< AI0867> not really
20111129 18:38:08< AI0867> but there might be information in the /projectfiles/
20111129 18:40:52< vultraz> humm must be this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/unofficial/Mac%20Compile%20Stuff/
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20111129 18:53:10< anonymissimus> vultraz: you should please find out answers to question like "what libs do I need" by yourself
20111129 18:53:29< anonymissimus> you can ask once you can paste a specific errors message for instance
20111129 18:54:47< anonymissimus> AI0867: I use the same source tree for building in Linux so the .mos get updated each time I do
20111129 18:55:21< anonymissimus> so yes copying from a Linux built is the standard method
20111129 18:57:15< fendrin> vultraz: on linux you can do an "apt-get builddep wesnoth" to get at least all dependencies for 1.8 installed.
20111129 18:58:10< fendrin> vultraz: that is on debian based ((k/x/l)ubuntu, mint ...) only.
20111129 18:58:25< fendrin> wesbot: seen crab_?
20111129 18:58:25< wesbot> fendrin: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 31d 23h ago.  13d 19h ago they left with the message: Client Quit
20111129 18:58:39< anonymissimus> I also see the CPU usage stuff; however if MSVC would go to 100% for each core I couldn't do much other stuff while compiling
20111129 19:00:47< fendrin> Ivanovic: The AI isn't aware about leader specific recall lists at the moment. If crab_ does not show up soon and offers me some help with that I would like to document that issue on the wiki and go with the flow into stable. I don't dare to mangle with the AI that shortly before a major release without him.
20111129 19:01:18< fendrin> I meant recruit lists.
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20111129 19:10:39< vultraz> http://pastebin.com/W3gtr6g6 ok what am doing wrong here....
20111129 19:12:29< AI0867> anonymissimus: heh, you share the checkout between operating systems? that'd work
20111129 19:12:47< anonymissimus> AI0867: yes that works
20111129 19:13:12< anonymissimus> and it is a very interesting challenge so to say xD
20111129 19:14:39< anonymissimus> vultraz: I get part of these errors on win as well when using cmake
20111129 19:14:54< anonymissimus> you are perhaps on better ground with scons
20111129 19:15:31< anonymissimus> on Linux I installed libboost-all-dev to escape the boost depebdency prroblems
20111129 19:15:55< anonymissimus> with apt-get, and then it automagically worked
20111129 19:17:05< anonymissimus> notably this same line Could NOT find Libintl (missing: LIBINTL_INCLUDE_DIR LIBINTL_LIB_FOUND) I get on win
20111129 19:19:26< vultraz> humm
20111129 19:20:08< anonymissimus> does MacOS have a package installing system any similar to the ubuntu family ?
20111129 19:20:40< vultraz> I don't think so. There are times when apt-get would be pretty useful :S
20111129 19:20:47< anonymissimus> it is perhaps easier to first try to build the 1.8 source
20111129 19:22:05< vultraz> aug....now get permission error running the setup.py for scons.....
20111129 19:22:18< vultraz> and i'm not in the sudoers file....
20111129 19:26:39< anonymissimus> it shouldnt try writing to write protected folders when the source is in your userdata directory
20111129 19:27:20< anonymissimus> "/home/username/" on Linux systems
20111129 19:29:02< anonymissimus> the readme in projectfiles/Xcode is from september 2010, this counts as "very much up to date"
20111129 19:30:41< anonymissimus> people you can ask are alarantalara and probably timotei as well
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20111129 19:34:44< vultraz> anonymissimus: http://pastebin.com/rASx4hTq what I got from running setup.py in ~/scons-2.1.0 
20111129 19:36:53< Soliton> you can't make a system wide install as a user.
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20111129 19:37:30< Soliton> osx has fink and some other thingy as package managers afaik.
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20111129 19:40:01< vultraz> ok..ran setup.py with sudo...woks...now...
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20111129 19:49:09< vultraz> http://pastebin.com/9hVuKHZK :S what am I missing now....
20111129 20:02:21< Soliton> the part where it says 'no'.
20111129 20:03:29< vultraz> huh....
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20111129 20:28:01< Gambit> vultraz: notice how it is "Checking" for each thing it needs
20111129 20:28:06< Gambit> And one of them says no
20111129 20:30:30< Ivanovic> re
20111129 20:30:42< Ivanovic> fendrin: yeah, sounds sane to me (i hope you read the logs...)
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20111129 21:14:24< anonymissimus> vultraz: you don't need to install it btw
20111129 21:14:47< anonymissimus> compiling is enough (I never installed wesnoth after compiling)
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20111129 21:15:44< anonymissimus> it makes you the executable wesnoth file in the project root, runable via ./wesnoth
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20111129 22:03:59< shadowmaster> PreprocessorRef in the wiki is very disorganized, directives can't be directly linked from the forum, and there are some bits of unclear/outdated/misleading information, so I'm rewriting it.
20111129 22:10:04< loonycyborg> vultraz: You're missing GNU gettext, though no idea what is the proper way to install it on mac.
20111129 22:10:50< vultraz> loonycyborg: yeah, when I try I get a slew of errors about autoconf
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20111129 22:29:54< vultraz> this would all be so much easier on a linux distro...
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20111129 22:48:30< anonymissimus> vultraz: since the Mac group is the smallest the building is the hardest ;)
20111129 22:48:49< vultraz> :P
20111129 22:48:54< anonymissimus> maybe
20111129 22:49:20< anonymissimus> at least there are more mac-only bugs than win-only ones I think
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20111129 23:26:15< shadowmaster> finally: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/PreprocessorRef
20111129 23:30:46< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen timotei
20111129 23:30:46< wesbot> shadowmaster: The person with the nick timotei last spoke 2d 3h ago.  1d 1h ago they left with the message: Read error: Connection reset by peer
20111129 23:31:03< shadowmaster> timotei: you'll probably want to check that I didn't ruin your section
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